Would you be worried when we are allowed go back to punting

I agree 100% with Rooter. Got no intention of living the rest of my life in a bubble.

The low chances of catching Covid might be partially to do with lockdowns but humans are social creatures and continued lockdowns are going to result in a lot more mental health issues.

The best way out is to be vaccinated and use a little common sense in crowds. Masks are probably going to be required in quite a few situations.

A comparable scenario to the current Covid crisis is like when a swimmer/surfer gets taken by a shark. People stay out of the water for a while but eventually most go back in.

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Originally Posted by CountryPunter

I agree 100% with Rooter. Got no intention of living the rest of my life in a bubble.

The low chances of catching Covid might be partially to do with lockdowns but humans are social creatures and continued lockdowns are going to result in a lot more mental health issues.

The best way out is to be vaccinated and use a little common sense in crowds. Masks are probably going to be required in quite a few situations.

A comparable scenario to the current Covid crisis is like when a swimmer/surfer gets taken by a shark. People stay out of the water for a while but eventually most go back in.

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CountryPunter for Premier! If only the government had a more common sense approach to these things.

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Originally Posted by Budgyboy

Ever had a bad cold, well being vaccinated and catching covid 95% of the time is how you will feel. Hide forever or be keen to have a crack in time all the nervous nellies will look back and cringe at the way they carried on. Up to you and all the other people who want to be either unvaccinated, misinformed or plain hesitant. But 70 to 80 % of us are going to have a crack.

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They say the vaccine helps your protection system kick in quickly, by giving your antibodies a taste of the virus.

It is also said your antibodies learn from the real virus, so the vaccine should have your antibodies armed and ready.
Therefore if you get the real virus after vaccine, could that improve your system, like getting a booster shot :grimace:

^ I don't know if you're just stupid.

No, getting the covid after a vaccine does not give act like a booster shot. Your body recognises the virus and already has the antibodies tonight it.

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Originally Posted by tan30

^ I don't know if you're just stupid.

No, getting the covid after a vaccine does not give act like a booster shot. Your body recognises the virus and already has the antibodies tonight it.

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There are actually studies in places like the UK and Israel that are disputing this, it is likely contracting COVID-19 after vaccination will in fact boost the protection and effectiveness if antibodies preventing the chance of re-infection later on.

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Originally Posted by Blackkkkkkk

Would you be worried when we are allowed go back to punting

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I worry not about Covid but my money won't last as I intend to see 3 WLs in a day to make up lost time.

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Originally Posted by TheMaestro

There are actually studies in places like the UK and Israel that are disputing this, it is likely contracting COVID-19 after vaccination will in fact boost the protection and effectiveness if antibodies preventing the chance of re-infection later on.

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I'm all for vaccination but this is a bit too farfetched for me. Think about it, how could they prove that a person who has been vaccinated would get better protection than if he wasn't vaccinated and then got infected? The same person who is vaccinated cannot then be unvaccinated again to prove this point.

Probably the only thing that they can prove beyond a doubt is that antibodies created by being actually infected with COVID (and surviving it of course!) are better than antibodies created from vaccination.

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Originally Posted by rooter

I'll be going to pubs, bars, restaurants, brothels, cafes, shopping, massage parlours, footy, cricket, beach, picnics, parties, casino etc.
Resume life as normal.
I have had two vax shots and I will take my chances.
Your chances of catching the virus are much smaller than not catching it.
Worldwide the percentage of people infected is just a small proportion of the population (around 2.5% - or in other words 97.5% of the worlds population has avoided covid), and those that die is a tiny proportion (around .05% - or in other words 99.95% of the worlds population has not died of covid.
And the vast majority of those that died were very old and/or very sick.
If you are under 60yo and healthy it’s more like a 99.99% certainty you will not die of covid.
Put it this way, if you got the results of a biopsy and your GP it told you it's a 99.95% certainty you will not die of cancer you would be ecstatic and go out and celebrate with champagne and dinner and a fuck!
Well that's the covid diagnosis for us all. It's a 99.95% to 99.99% certainty you will not die of covid, so why hide under the bed in fear? As soon as the lockdown ends, go out and for a champagne dinner and a fuck!
Vaccination will make those already tiny chances of dying or getting really sick even tinier.
Even if I get the virus it will be like getting a cold or at worst a flu and that has never stopped me from living life to the fullest before.
Living life in a cotton wool cocoon is no way to live.
Enjoy!

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Rooter is talking sense, the couple of guys on here carrying on about evidence long covid ect are the facebook soldiers. Take a look at colledge football on espn, americans are getting on with it. So should we, yes there will be set backs, but it will be for the unvaccinated. We will unfortunately have restrictions because of them but hopefully its so they can catch up. Im ok with that but if there is no effort to catch up, eventually the unvaccinated will be on their own. Problem is they clog up hospitals and people with breast cancer, prostrate cancer, brain cancer, sepsis, mental illness, heart disease and many other illness are taking a backseat because of these self centred misinformed lunatics.

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Originally Posted by Budgyboy

Rooter is talking sense, the couple of guys on here carrying on about evidence long covid ect are the facebook soldiers. Take a look at colledge football on espn, americans are getting on with it. So should we, yes there will be set backs, but it will be for the unvaccinated. We will unfortunately have restrictions because of them but hopefully its so they can catch up. Im ok with that but if there is no effort to catch up, eventually the unvaccinated will be on their own. Problem is they clog up hospitals and people with breast cancer, prostrate cancer, brain cancer, sepsis, mental illness, heart disease and many other illness are taking a backseat because of these self centred misinformed lunatics.

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Spot on, mate. One of those "couple of guys" oscillates wildly, one moment he's on about COVID being just like a common cold and it's all about the Gov trying to "steal our assets" (hence no need to vaccinate), the next moment he's spouting Lancet articles about the dangers of Long COVID along with his own commentary that being vaccinated may not prevent it from happening (oh btw, hence no need to vaccinate)!

I can't believe how far people will go just to avoid a tiny pin prick of a needle.

I don't have 5g where I live so I'm safe

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Spot on, mate. One of those "couple of guys" oscillates wildly, one moment he's on about COVID being just like a common cold and it's all about the Gov trying to "steal our assets" (hence no need to vaccinate), the next moment he's spouting Lancet articles about the dangers of Long COVID along with his own commentary that being vaccinated may not prevent it from happening (oh btw, hence no need to vaccinate)!

I can't believe how far people will go just to avoid a tiny pin prick of a needle.

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Yes I know friend trying to avoid the vaccine saying AZ is blood clot, Pfizer is not that effective against delta and now say waiting for Modena. I bet he will say next I want Chinese or Russian vaccine. We see about freedom next month.

The only guys worrying about catching Covid and worried about the vaccine are the ones who get their daily news from Fuckbook - which is half of those affected LGAs

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

I'm all for vaccination but this is a bit too farfetched for me. Think about it, how could they prove that a person who has been vaccinated would get better protection than if he wasn't vaccinated and then got infected? The same person who is vaccinated cannot then be unvaccinated again to prove this point.

Probably the only thing that they can prove beyond a doubt is that antibodies created by being actually infected with COVID (and surviving it of course!) are better than antibodies created from vaccination.

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The way I understand is that the vaccine only target a very specific part of the virus (the spike protein) so the antibodies introduced by the vaccine is very specific, that's why the it is less effective against the new variants as they don't like the same anymore. The antibodies produced via a natural infection is more all rounded, the immune system would recognise other parts of the virus and have different attack vectors if you recovered from it.

So the idea from some scientists from UK is that GET VACCINATED so you have a form of protection but let natural runs its cause and if by any case you get infected (by whatever variants), you are likely that you will be protected by the vaccine and but your immune system would be given a chance to taste what the real virus is like and produced other antibodies which would target other parts of the virus, so effectively it is like a booster shot but in a natural way.

the key here is still get vaccinated thou

Pretty funny how a certain amount people choose to not be vaccined but dont mind taking drugs made from god knows what in someones backyard. Plus the vaccine is made in a proper lab with testing and controlled

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Originally Posted by Philyum

Pretty funny how a certain amount people choose to not be vaccined but dont mind taking drugs made from god knows what in someones backyard. Plus the vaccine is made in a proper lab with testing and controlled

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Exactly this, they should not take any medicine ranging from over the counter to prescription medication. they should just grow their own natural 'meds' in their backyard!

these are the same people who think you can get controlled by 5g using the nanites in the vaccine. absolute idiots

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Originally Posted by Philyum

Pretty funny how a certain amount people choose to not be vaccined but dont mind taking drugs made from god knows what in someones backyard. Plus the vaccine is made in a proper lab with testing and controlled

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Because there are no Facebook groups dedicated to telling people not to take backyard meds.

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Originally Posted by Kiryu0

Exactly this, they should not take any medicine ranging from over the counter to prescription medication. they should just grow their own natural 'meds' in their backyard!

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Sounds about right, they definitely should be doing this

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Originally Posted by GoldfishMan

Because there are no Facebook groups dedicated to telling people not to take backyard meds.

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Do you want to start a group to get this going? Hahahaha

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Originally Posted by Travelmate

Most of the girls I know at least done 1 jab. Second jab before mid October.

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Same.... speaking to the few girls i know, they are all getting vaxxed