Sugarbabes - Sydney, Melbourne and Gold Coast markets

I thought it might be useful to provide some basic comparisons of the Sydney, Melbourne and Gold Coast market for Sugarbabes. I punt in all three.

My target market setting is usually 22-28, slim or Athletic. Caucasians or Eurasians are my personal preference.

I will sometimes raise the age bracket as there are some lovely, fit women who are in the 28 - 35 bracket, no kids and have a better understanding of their bodies and sexuality (don't we all when we are older?)

My observations as follows for the Sydney market:

• Higher and faster response rates
• More direct and business like conversations in Sydney
• i.e. "don't text me, just call me"
• Faster to move from SA to kik/whatsapp/text
• Girls are much readily available to meet, I'm am usually propositioned to meet on the day
• Little hesitation to meet for coffee/lunch/drinks. The girls are so confident that after the pre meet comes the play time, it's almost a given for them.
• Hardly anyone asking for deposits or pre payments (I don't think I have received one to date)
• Prices are currently feel a bit inflated. Some of this is their annual post Christmas credit card repayment cycle 😂
• $500 in Sydney is comparable to $400 in Melbourne and Gold Coast
• A number of chancers who will throw out big numbers, but if you know how to negotiate, this can easily be $500
• Timing of dates can be a little quicker. Usually an hour over lunch/dinner/cocktails followed by 2+ hours of play. Usually 2 rounds of 45 minutes each is what I look for as an outcome.

Ongoing I aim to achieve a lower PPM overall. I'll pay a little more for a once off, or first time meet.

I have some questions if you don't mind. What website do you use? SA? And it seems like it's almost a given that sex will occur? So essentially it sounds like escorting with an extra step. If so, how does the conversation start and flow? Super interesting topic to me.

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Originally Posted by BennyB

I thought it might be useful to provide some basic comparisons of the Sydney, Melbourne and Gold Coast market for Sugarbabes. I punt in all three.

My target market setting is usually 22-28, slim or Athletic. Caucasians or Eurasians are my personal preference.

I will sometimes raise the age bracket as there are some lovely, fit women who are in the 28 - 35 bracket, no kids and have a better understanding of their bodies and sexuality (don't we all when we are older?)

My observations as follows for the Sydney market:

• Higher and faster response rates
• More direct and business like conversations in Sydney
• i.e. "don't text me, just call me"
• Faster to move from SA to kik/whatsapp/text
• Girls are much readily available to meet, I'm am usually propositioned to meet on the day
• Little hesitation to meet for coffee/lunch/drinks. The girls are so confident that after the pre meet comes the play time, it's almost a given for them.
• Hardly anyone asking for deposits or pre payments (I don't think I have received one to date)
• Prices are currently feel a bit inflated. Some of this is their annual post Christmas credit card repayment cycle 😂
• $500 in Sydney is comparable to $400 in Melbourne and Gold Coast
• A number of chancers who will throw out big numbers, but if you know how to negotiate, this can easily be $500
• Timing of dates can be a little quicker. Usually an hour over lunch/dinner/cocktails followed by 2+ hours of play. Usually 2 rounds of 45 minutes each is what I look for as an outcome.

Ongoing I aim to achieve a lower PPM overall. I'll pay a little more for a once off, or first time meet.

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Thanks for sharing your experience. This is valulable information.

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Originally Posted by Triplesec

I have some questions if you don't mind. What website do you use? SA? And it seems like it's almost a given that sex will occur? So essentially it sounds like escorting with an extra step. If so, how does the conversation start and flow? Super interesting topic to me.

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Hi Triplesec - absolutely.

Seeking (SA) and SugarDaddyMeet would be the primary sites I use.

There are ways to tell whether she is looking for sex or not. I would say that it is a very small proportion that are not on the side to have more / better sex with benefits. Older guys are a thing for many women. Especially if you can hold your own in conversation and have your shit together.

In terms of how to close on SA, I'm happy to share my thoughts on PM about the kind of methods that I've found effective.

Over the past few years I've found it a fascinating experience. Complementary to WLs / MLs and dating in real life. It's all part of the intimacy spectrum and each niche has it's place.

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Originally Posted by Johnisfun1969

Thanks for sharing your experience. This is valulable information.

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Thanks for your note John and you are welcome.

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Originally Posted by BennyB

Hi Triplesec - absolutely.

Seeking (SA) and SugarDaddyMeet would be the primary sites I use.

There are ways to tell whether she is looking for sex or not. I would say that it is a very small proportion that are not on the side to have more / better sex with benefits. Older guys are a thing for many women. Especially if you can hold your own in conversation and have your shit together.

In terms of how to close on SA, I'm happy to share my thoughts on PM about the kind of methods that I've found effective.

Over the past few years I've found it a fascinating experience. Complementary to WLs / MLs and dating in real life. It's all part of the intimacy spectrum and each niche has it's place.

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Yeah I'm finding myself getting drawn more and more to a FWB/Sugarbabes experience as I get older. The only real issues I have are girls who cause drama, so establishing clear boundaries are a must and figuring how to choose and/or find an appropriate girl. I do have a free account on SA I've poked around a bit on; but it's hard to tell who is fake or not without the ability to message etc. But yeah finding a good educated girl who loves to hang out, chill and fuck without causing drama would be perfect. I'd be glad to support one.

Unfortunately, having a free account is like standing outside the bar with a six pack of beers while the hot girls inside are talking to guys who are buying them drinks.

Your chance of being noticed - next to none.

Paying for membership helps the girls filter the actually SDs from the hangers on.

Hahah yeah I know. Reminds me of when I was browsing escort ads years ago, but too afraid to send a message.

Send me a PM if you have questions. Happy to help.

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Originally Posted by Triplesec

Yeah I'm finding myself getting drawn more and more to a FWB/Sugarbabes experience as I get older. The only real issues I have are girls who cause drama, so establishing clear boundaries are a must and figuring how to choose and/or find an appropriate girl. I do have a free account on SA I've poked around a bit on; but it's hard to tell who is fake or not without the ability to message etc. But yeah finding a good educated girl who loves to hang out, chill and fuck without causing drama would be perfect. I'd be glad to support one.

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As with BennyB, you are also welcome to PM me with any questions.
I am coming up for 2 yrs with my SB and we have been exclusive for 18 months.
She basically lives with me fulltime and is at Uni studying Criminal Psychology, her goal is a Phd.
Has to be one of the most drama free females I've ever met

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Originally Posted by juscruisin58

As with BennyB, you are also welcome to PM me with any questions.
I am coming up for 2 yrs with my SB and we have been exclusive for 18 months.
She basically lives with me fulltime and is at Uni studying Criminal Psychology, her goal is a Phd.
Has to be one of the most drama free females I've ever met

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Wow, living the dream. I'd kill for a young drama free girl who knows exactly what she wants.

Many of them on SA / SDM are drama free.

Equally many of them who are drama queens.

Knowing the difference is as important as knowing the difference between service from WLs and MLs. it's why we all join review forums.

All women are drama queens. In fact all the women I’ve met have been executive producers of drama. Some will create a mini-series out of it, whilst others a docu-drama. Some will even produce a special sequel episode or a remake of last season’s nail biter. At work there are chicks that have created a long standing melo-drama series that would rival days of our lives. It’s inherent in their emotional nature - so it is what it is. The only reason guys put up with it is for the promise of booty and pussy.

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Originally Posted by Double_Adapter

All women are drama queens. In fact all the women I’ve met have been executive producers of drama. Some will create a mini-series out of it, whilst others a docu-drama. Some will even produce a special sequel episode or a remake of last season’s nail biter. At work there are chicks that have created a long standing melo-drama series that would rival days of our lives. It’s inherent in their emotional nature - so it is what it is. The only reason guys put up with it is for the promise of booty and pussy.

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Go zoo-bon dbl adapter

Who is your fave character from bold n beautiful ?

Btw bro bruh can you remind siphon to send me the chick he dogs from that groovy MP

you right gud bruh

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Originally Posted by cumquat

Go zoo-bon dbl adapter

Who is your fave character from bold n beautiful ?

Btw bro bruh can you remind siphon to send me the chick he dogs from that groovy MP

you right gud bruh

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I'm going to need more than google translate for this one I think.

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Originally Posted by Triplesec

Hahah yeah I know. Reminds me of when I was browsing escort ads years ago, but too afraid to send a message.

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Weren't we all like that at some point?

And also the guys who turned their collars up and wore a hat into a brothel for fear that someone would recognise us?

(although the best thing about going into brothels was always the waiting room. Before mobile phones. Guys would sit back and have a chat and it was like an informal forum - we'd recommend who someone should see and what was on offer. Often the girls would come out for a chat as well between bookings.)

Following on from my original post, my observations of the Melbourne Sugarbabe market

Ignore the ones who reach out to you directly. They've been sitting at home playing with their crap efforts at Onlyfans content
Melbourne is more about the connection. Girls more interested in ongoing (ppm or allowance)
More high quality options and VFM is greater from my experience
Ratio of Sugar babies to Sugar daddies in Melbourne is higher than Sydney
Girls more interested in a pre meet and working out if they are into you. Goes with the point above on the pre meet
Lots of uni students, consistent with it being the Education capital
Meets take a little longer to organise, usually 1-2 weeks
$500 in Sydney is comparable to $400 in Melbourne and Gold Coast.
I've had more experiences in Melbourne where girls prefer gifts/experiences to cash (gifts, expensive dinners, paying their monthly phone bill, buying them a phone, etc)
Girls are incredibly open minded. BB, anal, creampies, CIMSW, BDSM, fetish role play - it's like a wonderland of discovery and they've all been watching a lot of 50 Shades down there

I have two regulars currently in Melbourne. One on $400 PPM and one on $350 PPM. I see them once a month on average when borders are not locked up. Both can host but we switch up between theirs and my hotel suite.

VFM = value for money

Thank you for the great content BennyB and others. I feel like this 'lifestyle' is ideal if you're rich and single or have to travel for work. I'm financial but I work from home.

I'm also a RnT guy. Partly because I'm a tightwad but also FS doesn't appeal for some reason.

Then again I'm in a relationship that might be on it's last legs. SDing might end up being a great option, at least for a while, if things keep going south with my missus.

Thanks Markin

I appreciate the feedback. All of the SDs I know are married or partnered. All have multiple SBs - Caucasian and Asian. All the guys are between 30 and 70.

I agree financial stability is important, but you don’t have to be rich.

I typically spend $1,600 a month and will have 2-3 Sugarbabes on available rotation at any point in time.

In return I am getting about 30 hours of time with them, so paying $53 / hour. About half of that is sex. I will be on the receiving end of around 12 SB orgasms a month, which equates to about $133 per orgasm.

I sugar date Caucasians mainly. Ages range from 22 to 28.

I am married and can be flexible with my work.

Nothing wrong with being a tightwad, but if you are, then once you have paid $400 for 2-3 hours of BB sex including anal with a 20 something uni student, then there is no RnT that can match it (apart from the massage of course. I’ve never met a decent Sugarbabe who can give you a properly trained 40 minute remedial massage)

You don’t have to take my word for it. Just jump onto the Sugarbabe review forums and you will see that I’m just one of many guys that get this.

Great insights Benny - appreciate it.

Is there a reason why you go for 22+? i.e did you find that going for 18-21s bit more drama / not as smooth / harder to lock in etc?