Wow... 40K loan to start with..... Definitely a red sign...
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Wow... 40K loan to start with..... Definitely a red sign...
There is no shortage of bandwidth in the thread to exhaust both topics. One doesn't come at the expense of the other. If someone thinks of a new angle or experience specifically on the SB experience, previous comments on related legal implications isn't going to stop them posting it. You are more interested in one subject rather than the other but don't worry about it. :D
You are on the wrong forum if you want to avoid seeing shit fights. :shout:
Hahaha.
I would laugh at her face and walk away laughing.
I have seen few girls on seeking arrangement who openly say: I can only give companionship so please don't ask for sex.
One girl even had this on her profile: "Why are guys in here so ugly?"
And a number of girls are in an open relationship, even Asian girls.
Many are accustomed to being spoiled and given the high life that they would never afford in normal jobs. As a result, they have this expectation that it is all normal. Imagine asking a good friend to take out a 40k loan for you? It is unlikely to occur. Some of these girls believe men are dumb or gullible to do favours for them and they are right. How many other guys has she asked favours and got them?
Exploitation is perfectly OK as long as its mutual
Well I think there are men out there who would just pay anything. I had come across some posts on twitter and instagram where girls as part of BDSM as part of role play get the slave to pay large amounts of money. So I am not surpsied with some girls expectation on SBs site. Then again perception and reality are not always the same. People who have made it big dont go around handing out money willy nilly whereas some young girls may beleive being in their 20s they deserve to be spolit and paid an excecutive salary for their company. I beleive there may be few hot girls that may command this kind of reward but not all girls looking for SD are hot spinners. The site has women in all age brackets. From the reports I have seen online most guys who are in these relationships have ppm arrangement and they dont pay upfront or for the first meet.
I have been tip toeing and some stage willl take a plunge.
If she wants a Gucci handbag the least she can do is release the contents of my balls
Actually from my experiences, if the girl happy to get paid to be our mistresses, it's a good thing as it means money can solve problems. It would be more complicated if she doesn't want money. So if she still accepts our money, players, be happy!
John I think a number of your assumptions are reasonable. Expectation gaps do exist, but that is part of the fun of chatting, bantering and negotiating. Skills that most experienced men who like women and their company have.
As a married man I don't get the chance to turn on the seduction much any more and even Esther Perel's advice only goes so far if your wife isn't into it either.
Sugarbabes give me the chance to be that best version of my seductive self again - I just wish I knew at 25 what I know now.
Thankfully there are literally thousands of women on Sugarbabe sites across the capital cities and many are just looking for a normal guy who will treat them right and can be their version of a sexy older man for a few hours a week. They aren't all looking for George Clooney either.
BennyB you right in saying there are plenty of girsl looking for normal guys who will treat them with respect and maybe little desired. Afterall the women also enjoy flirting with men and make them weak in their knees.
I guess with age and marriage we all forget about flirting and seducing a women. I had a wonderfull time during my travel in Asia. I and need to build up a network of contacts. I miss the silly chats, banter and the excitement of the date.
But I was not expecting the negotiating. I thought the SBs may not like to talk too much about pricing but then girls these days are very confident and may not be too fussed talking money.
Thanks for your input here. Been very encouraging.
Thank you for your kind words Johnisfun - as much as I enjoy having sex with WLs/MLs as it fulfils a particular fantasy and need, I also enjoy the broader experience I have with Sugarbabes. I think both have their place and it doesn't have to be binary - it all comes down to what experience you are looking for. I've found that the time I have spent with WLs helped rekindle my desire to seduce women and Sugarbabes are the ideal outlet for that and it comes with no strings attached (at least the arrangements I seek out).
It is possible to have your cake and eat it ;-)
Thanks HKHoney888. I figure the whole point of forums is to share and pay it forward?
Your post makes me think it may be worth a summary of where to find good Sugarbabe resources for those interested in punting. I have an overall strategy and methods I use, but I have learned there are as many approaches as there are women on these Sugarbabe sites.
Thanks ThaiGoodTimes and I've also had a look at the www.kamagraoioioi.com website you recommended, which looks like it is good value for money.
I am 40, can pass for younger, but I still notice I can't perform as well as I could when I was younger. Perhaps a thread on the different options to help you go the distance with a Sugarbabe would help.
I use a combination of medicinal and non-medicinal techniques, as I am sure you do?