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    Quote Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR View Post
    Weren’t we all descendants of Adam and Eve?
    Which means we are all inbred, probably explains why the whole world is batshit crazy

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    If Adam and eve were chinese, things would've been different.

    They wouldn't have eaten the apple but cooked the snake and ate him

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    Did anyone see that Beijing professor being interviewed on China Tonight on ABC last night? I've never heard an academic so belligerent. My jaw was dropping. He was literally threatening to drop nuclear bombs on us for getting the submarines. Several times! Those upper echelons sure live in a weird bubble over there.

    But we are well and truly better off out of that French deal. On one hand they said we'd get 80 to 90% of the business while on the other hand Macron was boasting to the electorate about creating 3 or 4000 jobs in France out of it. The two sums never added up.

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    Forget about subs and frogs. There's a huge problem coming our way from China.
    Keep an eye on Evergrande and then have a look at our beloved iron ore price.

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    Evergrande has gone, its now whether the Chinese govt will let it go and suppress any public discontent or force other companies to prop it up. Either way they're fucked, the government is already cracking down on the secondary loan market.

    As for iron ore, watch WA head cap in hand to Canberra asking for more money to prop the state up...let the pricks succeed and look after themselves.
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    Yeah, when the iron ore price was over $200 we still ended up 20 billion ahead in balance of trade with China despite the 20 billion of sales from us China had lopped off. Now the iron ore is under $100, but the 20 billion is still lost no matter where the iron ore price is.

    (btw, the EU and US allies are both eatng our lunch without a second thought. They quickly began selling into China the 20 billion in barley, coal, crustaceans, wine etc sales we lost.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
    Yeah, when the iron ore price was over $200 we still ended up 20 billion ahead in balance of trade with China despite the 20 billion of sales from us China had lopped off. Now the iron ore is under $100, but the 20 billion is still lost no matter where the iron ore price is.

    (btw, the EU and US allies are both eatng our lunch without a second thought. They quickly began selling into China the 20 billion in barley, coal, crustaceans, wine etc sales we lost.)
    To get out of the bullying by other people and countries. We the had to have larger population, go nuclear, bigger munufacting industrial, bigger military, everythings is bigger then no want will bully little small Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotcumdotinyou View Post
    Evergrande has gone, its now whether the Chinese govt will let it go and suppress any public discontent or force other companies to prop it up. Either way they're fucked, the government is already cracking down on the secondary loan market.

    As for iron ore, watch WA head cap in hand to Canberra asking for more money to prop the state up...let the pricks succeed and look after themselves.
    There will not be a bail out from the Chinese Gov. They've said it before: houses are meant for living in, not for speculation. The failure of Evergrande goes to the heart of property speculator territory. I do not think it is wise to expect a communist regime to behave like any other capitalist driven government. If Evergrande can fall and does not completely destroy the system, they will let it fall.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ziggurat View Post
    Did anyone see that Beijing professor being interviewed on China Tonight on ABC last night? I've never heard an academic so belligerent. My jaw was dropping. He was literally threatening to drop nuclear bombs on us for getting the submarines. Several times! Those upper echelons sure live in a weird bubble over there.

    But we are well and truly better off out of that French deal. On one hand they said we'd get 80 to 90% of the business while on the other hand Macron was boasting to the electorate about creating 3 or 4000 jobs in France out of it. The two sums never added up.
    As our defence minister vademot Dutton say counter-productive, immature and frankly embarrassing for China to threaten a small little Australia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climax598 View Post
    To get out of the bullying by other people and countries. We the had to have larger population, go nuclear, bigger munufacting industrial, bigger military, everythings is bigger then no want will bully little small Australia.
    A larger population without good leadership won't give us a better outcome. Indonesia has over 300 million ppl. Does that equate to a stronger country ?

    Aus has many great minds and creations like when we started solar panels. But our country made it too expensive to manufacture anything here. So all the companies had to move overseas. Even our car industry had to shut cos it's just too expensive to manufacture here.

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    In fact, if the US really wanted to help Aus. They should setup the latest semi-conductor manufacturing plants here. That would really piss China off. Since China would have to invest 5 years to build up their semi-conductor manufacturing to reach the same level as US.

    Imagine Aus supplying much needed micro-processors to the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by studsg View Post
    In fact, if the US really wanted to help Aus. They should setup the latest semi-conductor manufacturing plants here. That would really piss China off. Since China would have to invest 5 years to build up their semi-conductor manufacturing to reach the same level as US.

    Imagine Aus supplying much needed micro-processors to the world.
    Taiwan semi-conductor company in China can move to Australia that wil Piss them off even more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by studsg View Post
    In fact, if the US really wanted to help Aus. They should setup the latest semi-conductor manufacturing plants here. That would really piss China off. Since China would have to invest 5 years to build up their semi-conductor manufacturing to reach the same level as US.

    Imagine Aus supplying much needed micro-processors to the world.
    Quote Originally Posted by studsg View Post
    A larger population without good leadership won't give us a better outcome. Indonesia has over 300 million ppl. Does that equate to a stronger country ?

    Aus has many great minds and creations like when we started solar panels. But our country made it too expensive to manufacture anything here. So all the companies had to move overseas. Even our car industry had to shut cos it's just too expensive to manufacture here.
    What are you say scomo is not good leadership. He is great knowing how to piss China off and get nuclear submarine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by studsg View Post
    In fact, if the US really wanted to help Aus. They should setup the latest semi-conductor manufacturing plants here. That would really piss China off. Since China would have to invest 5 years to build up their semi-conductor manufacturing to reach the same level as US.

    Imagine Aus supplying much needed micro-processors to the world.

    China only has to take over Taiwan to control the world’s larger semi conductor company TSMC. Just saying it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climax598 View Post
    What are you say scomo is not good leadership. He is great knowing how to piss China off and get nuclear submarine.
    More like pissing the French and the rest of EU off

    Plus shut down our manufacturing like our car industry. And tell everyone to focus on digging... Iron ore... Look at where the price of iron ore is now

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    Quote Originally Posted by AHLUNGOR View Post
    China only has to take over Taiwan to control the world’s larger semi conductor company TSMC. Just saying it.
    Taking over Taiwan will costs more and just end up like XinJiang where all the Anglo Saxon countries will simply refuse to buy any Taiwan products at that point. So would not be the best way to get hold of semi conductor technology.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Climax598 View Post
    Taiwan semi-conductor company in China can move to Australia that wil Piss them off even more.
    Slightly different but still a good plan. Is we can move everything from Taiwan over here. If some smart leader can pull it off.

    Set a 10 year plan and move all the Taiwan business and ppl that want to move to Aus and migrate everything here. Let China take over an empty island at the end of 10 years. That way everyone wins. Without using a single bullet.

    The big win would be Aus will have a huge manufacturing industry of high tech factories producing, phones, semi conductor, LCD panels, etc.

    Most importantly. We get a huge supply of Taiwanese ML and WL... Now tell me which party is promoting this plan and I'll vote for them

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    Manufacturing, in Australia? Dream on... The energy cost alone will make it not economically viable, don't even have to consider the wage cost. For that, we have the anti-nuke-power hippies to thank. I think the phrase "holier than thou" was invented for these numb-skulls.... They said "No, we won't have any part in developing fissile matter for nuclear bombs. Everyone else in the world can do it and enjoy cheap electricity, just not us. That's how we reduce nuclear bombs proliferation.". Here's a link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclea...r.?wprov=sfla1

    To me, this really is the root of all evil. This crucial factor of extremely high energy cost (in both monetary and environmental aspects) has created the following situation:
    - no manufacturing industry in Australia
    - the country has to rely heavily on other industries to survive
    - one of them is mining. That makes us the economic slave to China
    - other one is construction and real estate. That screws our younger generations.
    - it also makes the cost of living in Australia disparately higher than everywhere else. This in turn makes it harder to control something like a pandemic through PHOs... There's just no leeway in people's lives and finances to do that.

    If anyone has blood on their hands, it's this bunch of bozos who made it not possible for Australia to have nuclear power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    Manufacturing, in Australia? Dream on... The energy cost alone will make it not economically viable, don't even have to consider the wage cost. For that, we have the anti-nuke-power hippies to thank. I think the phrase "holier than thou" was invented for these numb-skulls.... They said "No, we won't have any part in developing fissile matter for nuclear bombs. Everyone else in the world can do it and enjoy cheap electricity, just not us. That's how we reduce nuclear bombs proliferation.". Here's a link:
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuclea...r.?wprov=sfla1

    To me, this really is the root of all evil. This crucial factor of extremely high energy cost (in both monetary and environmental aspects) has created the following situation:
    - no manufacturing industry in Australia
    - the country has to rely heavily on other industries to survive
    - one of them is mining. That makes us the economic slave to China
    - other one is construction and real estate. That screws our younger generations.
    - it also makes the cost of living in Australia disparately higher than everywhere else. This in turn makes it harder to control something like a pandemic through PHOs... There's just no leeway in people's lives and finances to do that.

    If anyone has blood on their hands, it's this bunch of bozos who made it not possible for Australia to have nuclear power.
    Amen! You are spot on.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    Manufacturing, in Austral.......

    To me, this really is the root of all evil. This crucial factor of extremely high energy cost (in both monetary and environmental aspects) has created the following situation:
    - no manufacturing industry in Australia
    - the country has to rely heavily on other industries to survive
    - one of them is mining. That makes us the economic slave to China
    - other one is construction and real estate. That screws our younger generations.
    - it also makes the cost of living in Australia disparately higher than everywhere else. This in turn makes it harder to control something like a pandemic through PHOs... There's just no leeway in people's lives and finances to do that.

    If anyone has blood on their hands, it's this bunch of bozos who made it not possible for Australia to have nuclear power.
    Now we know we depending on other people to manufacture thinks for us. I too was not happy when likes car was not manufacture here anymore. With this covid and China boycott we know now how fuck we are. The only way is nuclear energy. I know it takes time and have the political wells to do it.

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