Reply With QuoteGood for you bro rm85!
Needed to get this off my chest, can't really share it with friends/family lol.
I'm in my mid 30s, and my whole life, with girlfriends and with WL/ML in between, have only reached orgasm without my hands being involved once (from natural intercourse with a gf). Every other time with another person, I've had to take over and jerk myself off, for fear of running out of time, or the girl's arm or pussy getting sore. At this point I've had great support in the form of ball play, nipple sucking, kissing, whispered encouragement etc. but always my own hands to wrap things up.
I started punting after failing to ever cum with my first few girlfriends; I felt terrible, looking back I don't think either of them were that bothered but I projected my disappointment onto them. I figured I was likely fucked up on porn and masturbating, and once a dry spell set in I decided to fuck professional girls, girls hotter than I'd ever be able to date, in a more porn-like context, to see if the extra stimulation was what I needed. But that didn't work either, although I had lots of fun and made good and sometimes embarrassing memories. This left me feeling that it was more about psychology than stimulation, which kind of felt like a tragic dead end.
Anyway all of which is to say I finally got jacked off to completion for the first time to-day, hallelujah. The curse is lifted. Happy anzac day. Bless the ML that saw me through to completion and her hands.
Good for you bro rm85!
At the going down of the cock
We shall remember her
Lest we not forget
This should be call "Breakthrough Day" holidays.Originally Posted by B J Hunter
All those who have achieved such freedom should also march through Hyde Park.
Actually, this is a great thing, and you're not alone with that issue. I've had it too, and I am sure a lot of other guys as well. For younger guys especially, who have been raised on immediate access to unlimited hardcore porn (me since about 10 years old), we have trained ourselves to be solo-sexual... my first 1000 orgasms I bet were jacking off to hardcore porn, and since then, I don't know how many more. Older guys had real experiences, their earliest, with real women, and porn was just not what it is now. If they had the ability, early on, to access what young people can now, they totally would too. That hardcore porn stuff is nasty, and it creates a lot of ED and other sexual problems.
I think punting can help a little with it... just, having a no-stakes situation where you can get back to basics. So, good for you man. Keep at it. Don't be a dick of course, but make it work for you.
This is awesome to read! Congrats man… hopefully now the monkey is off your back, you just keep at it and relax during your sessions (and hopefully experiences in real life). Perhaps you could do a few basic R&T sessions where you just lie back, the girl works you over and you just let it happen or not. No expectations, just let your body do its thing
All the best
Congratulations!! Which ml broke your spell?
I want my 5mins back
Did you have to jerk off in this 5 Star session as well ?? Sounded to me you had fucked to completion ?
this is a pretty common issue. dan savage calls it Death-grip syndrome:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death-grip_syndrome
he has some suggested techniques to help overcome it you can probably google
How did it sound like that to you, if it doesn't say how it ended? I deliberately omitted that detail because yeah, I jerked myself off while she licked my balls - my issue, not a problem with her body or service, not relevant to an AR. Same with every punt in those years. Or like I said, other things like kissing, her mouth on the head my hand on the shaft, nipple play etc. Never paid for less than an hour, often preferred 90 minutes in those days even for a first go, to put the clock out of my mind and try to fuck my way through it, but never worked. That one was 2 hours, first time visit, one shot.
I'm familiar with the phrase, but thank you. I haven't used my hands when actually solo in years, switched to toys like fleshlights/onaholes etc. and kept them loose to try and remove the association. It's more about consistency and tempo than pressure, in my experience. Even if a girl was gripping very tightly it wouldn't make a difference, if they faltered or kept changing gears. Can finish from fast and slow, loose and tight and in between, but it mostly boils down to locking in on something. It also takes longer for me to do it myself with company than on my own. Psychology (anxiety, self-consciousness) is still a large factor in the issue.
I reckon lots of porn actors have the same problem. Look at how many porno scenes finish with a COF and the guy jerking himself off.
yeah the upside is I can go for a while and (for now) stay hard, but that's become less of a plus dating age-appropriate gf's where we both just get tired, and WL's aren't gonna thank you for lasting long when they've got the whole day ahead of them.
Zoe at 227 NSM
I will probably revisit, but will also try asking other girls to replicate what she did. Was well taken care of
Just relax. You can have very pleasurable experiences without cumming and, who knows, if you’re relaxed you just might cum anyway.
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