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    DFK, BBBJ, DATY - arent they unsafe sex?

    I noticed these are normal & happen regularly based on AR’s. But aren’t they regarded as unsafe sex? (Along with rimming also - perhaps)

    I’m just curious why so many people do them without fear or contracting STD’s

    Or am I wrong? That they’re not regarded as “unsafe sex”??

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucokrajameong View Post
    I noticed these are normal & happen regularly based on AR’s. But aren’t they regarded as unsafe sex? (Along with rimming also - perhaps)

    I’m just curious why so many people do them without fear or contracting STD’s

    Or am I wrong? That they’re not regarded as “unsafe sex”??
    They are unsafe sex practices and you can catch STIs. Having a bbbj can expose you to chlamydia or gonorrhoea. Even going down on someone can expose you to herpes or genital warts. Rimming can expose you to certain harmful bacteria.

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    Dk but I only want to do DFK and BBBJ with lover so probably no need to worry about unsafe sex then
    Sometimes you just have to accept that some people can stay in your heart but not in your life

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuteguy View Post
    They are unsafe sex practices and you can catch STIs. Having a bbbj can expose you to chlamydia or gonorrhoea. Even going down on someone can expose you to herpes or genital warts. Rimming can expose you to certain harmful bacteria.
    Yeh agree with you.

    But looking at the AR’s in this forum, so many are doing them. 100% of the time I went to FS places, the WL always want to do BBBJ without me asking. I had to always (politely) stop them and ask for CBJ instead. So it’s almost like a normal service to give BBBJ

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    Quote Originally Posted by cuteguy View Post
    They are unsafe sex practices and you can catch STIs. Having a bbbj can expose you to chlamydia or gonorrhoea. Even going down on someone can expose you to herpes or genital warts. Rimming can expose you to certain harmful bacteria.
    Don't forget when herpes when receiving bbbj

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    They are unsafe practices and as with anything in life carries risks in this case of contracting STIs/STDs.

    Many punters and MLs/WLs are willing to tolerate this risk for the tradeoff of “better service” especially bbbj and dfk are almost standard across many asian FS establishments.

    Some on this forum are even willing to do bbfs including myself. Bb anal would be the riskiest of all as you’re more likely to expose yourself and the receiving partner to microscopic tears increasing the likelihood of blood to blood contact.

    Each to their own. We partake in this hobby sometimes not thinking about the risk in the heat of the moment but we all know it’s there.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucokrajameong View Post
    Yeh agree with you.

    But looking at the AR’s in this forum, so many are doing them. 100% of the time I went to FS places, the WL always want to do BBBJ without me asking. I had to always (politely) stop them and ask for CBJ instead. So it’s almost like a normal service to give BBBJ
    Yeah BBBJ is seen as normal these days but it has risks. Most Asian WLs will do it unlike Caucasian WLs. However, the longer the WLs work the more they will be willing to do diamond services that can bring risks to their health as well as to their customers.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucokrajameong View Post
    Yeh agree with you.

    But looking at the AR’s in this forum, so many are doing them. 100% of the time I went to FS places, the WL always want to do BBBJ without me asking. I had to always (politely) stop them and ask for CBJ instead. So it’s almost like a normal service to give BBBJ
    Me too, I got f’ing gonorrhoea years back from a BBBJ years back from a WL (probably only on my 10th punt ever). Only CBJs for me ever since.
    Last edited by solidsnake; 10-01-2022 at 10:33 PM. Reason: Forgot quote

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    Aside from STDs, assuming part of the concern is a partner finding out about your side hobby.

    There's also the risk of Speeding/traffic infringements or even some form of car accident on the way to a punt. Could be hard to explain, especially if you got a dash cam in your car and they want to see how it happened.

    Don't know how the odds conpare of a ticket/accident vs std from bbj, but it's definitely not insignificant.

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    I have had that many Bbbjs never caught anything.
    After smashing Rebecca at Ginza I thought I caught something (I didn’t, just I reemed her so hard the head of my cock was killing me for days)

    Anyhow got paranoid at the time and went to the STI clinic and got the all clear.

    The Dr told me anything that you might catch from a bbbj can be sorted with no long lasting affects.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rogeryou View Post
    I have had that many Bbbjs never caught anything.
    After smashing Rebecca at Ginza I thought I caught something (I didn’t, just I reemed her so hard the head of my cock was killing me for days)

    Anyhow got paranoid at the time and went to the STI clinic and got the all clear.

    The Dr told me anything that you might catch from a bbbj can be sorted with no long lasting affects.
    So Doc was saying hiv for example is not transmissible on BBJB? Well, that’s a bit of good news isnt it?

    Good thing you’ve got the all clear mate

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    Everything in life and sex is potentially unsafe.

    Even having sex with a condom is potentially unsafe.

    The only safe thing to do is stay at home and masturbate.

    What specifically are you afraid of and why?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    Everything in life and sex is potentially unsafe.

    Even having sex with a condom is potentially unsafe.

    The only safe thing to do is stay at home and masturbate.

    What specifically are you afraid of and why?
    That's not safe either.
    If youre doing it with porn you'll get addicted. Also might have heart attack mid act and die.

    Life itself is risk

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    Quote Originally Posted by StiFFFy View Post
    Thsys not safe either.
    If youre doing it with porn you'll get addicted. Also might have heart attack mid act and die.

    Life itself is risk
    Very true. Monastic life? I hear that’s a bugger…

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    Quote Originally Posted by ucokrajameong View Post
    So Doc was saying hiv for example is not transmissible on BBJB? Well, that’s a bit of good news isnt it?

    Good thing you’ve got the all clear mate
    Yes I spoke to the Dr and a nurse both said anything you might get from a Bbbj can be sorted 100% with no life long lasting effects. Had copious amounts of Bjjj never caught anything.

    Imo the most unsafe places to have sex or bbbj is in those cubical passage suburban places with no showers. I try to avoid those zero hygiene.

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    HPV vaccine like Gardasil 9 approved for man. You should invest it in to get some protection from the most serious HPVs.

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    Ok let’s get some facts straight.

    1. Oral sex is a far less risky proposition for the receiver than the giver across all STIs. Even for the giver it’s a less risky proposition than vaginal and anal. However, HPV has caused an increase in throat cancer due to the destigmatisation of oral sex over time.

    2. Re HPV, if you’re far enough down the sexual path to think you might have needed Gardisil, you’re too late. +80% of the population have HPV and there are more than 80 variants. Which variant/s you have and how they manifest is the question. One man’s genital warts is another man’s Asymptomatic never to be seen hidden issue.

    3. Oral Gonorrhoea- gets a lot of press. Primarily an issue in men who have sex with men but not exclusively. One bonus - penile Gonorrhoea never hides its symptoms so you have to get something done about it. It’s called “the drip” for a reason. The burning urine isn’t good either.

    4. HIV is incredibly hard to acquire. Receptive anal with an ejaculation received inside from a positive man with a high viral load is still only around 1 in 500. There is an increase in receptive vaginal - why? Because men who have sex with men who contract it then go home and transmit it. But the vaginal walls are strong and it is more difficult to contract than through the anus. Men getting HIV from women is incredibly rare unless there is an open route for transmission e.g. a Syphilis sore and she has a high viral load.

    5. Unprotected vaginal sex is most likely to result in Chlamydia - easy to clear up. Antibiotic resistant Gonorrhoea is on the increase in South East Asia but it can be stopped with generation 4 antibiotics such as moxofloxicin.

    6. Condoms are effective in preventing STIs, full stop. But….Herpes is spread by direct contact so if your balls happen to run against a herpes sore even though your penis is covered you may still get herpes. And an estimated 25% of sexually active people will have it.

    In short work out your own risk profile and how you wish to behave and what consequences you’re willing to deal with. I’m a strategic risk taker based on the stats, but I’d never recommend this to anyone else - you have to take control of your own risks.

    Oh - and an ability to self diagnose and medicate puts me in a position of advantage.

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    Yeah. Due to the increased risk of sti's from direct skin to skin contact and there might be some micro wounds thats not visible

    Anyway bro. Your name sounds familiar. Maybe we come from the same place? Jkt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by buckjoe23 View Post
    Ok let’s get some facts straight.

    1. Oral sex is a far less risky proposition for the receiver than the giver across all STIs. Even for the giver it’s a less risky proposition than vaginal and anal. However, HPV has caused an increase in throat cancer due to the destigmatisation of oral sex over time.

    2. Re HPV, if you’re far enough down the sexual path to think you might have needed Gardisil, you’re too late. +80% of the population have HPV and there are more than 80 variants. Which variant/s you have and how they manifest is the question. One man’s genital warts is another man’s Asymptomatic never to be seen hidden issue.

    3. Oral Gonorrhoea- gets a lot of press. Primarily an issue in men who have sex with men but not exclusively. One bonus - penile Gonorrhoea never hides its symptoms so you have to get something done about it. It’s called “the drip” for a reason. The burning urine isn’t good either.

    4. HIV is incredibly hard to acquire. Receptive anal with an ejaculation received inside from a positive man with a high viral load is still only around 1 in 500. There is an increase in receptive vaginal - why? Because men who have sex with men who contract it then go home and transmit it. But the vaginal walls are strong and it is more difficult to contract than through the anus. Men getting HIV from women is incredibly rare unless there is an open route for transmission e.g. a Syphilis sore and she has a high viral load.

    5. Unprotected vaginal sex is most likely to result in Chlamydia - easy to clear up. Antibiotic resistant Gonorrhoea is on the increase in South East Asia but it can be stopped with generation 4 antibiotics such as moxofloxicin.

    6. Condoms are effective in preventing STIs, full stop. But….Herpes is spread by direct contact so if your balls happen to run against a herpes sore even though your penis is covered you may still get herpes. And an estimated 25% of sexually active people will have it.

    In short work out your own risk profile and how you wish to behave and what consequences you’re willing to deal with. I’m a strategic risk taker based on the stats, but I’d never recommend this to anyone else - you have to take control of your own risks.

    Oh - and an ability to self diagnose and medicate puts me in a position of advantage.
    great info, thanks!

    you seem to know your stuff, I assume that you are you a medical practitioner of some kind?

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    RE risk level between BBBJ and BB vaginal sex. I reckon BBBJ would carry a higher risk (for the recipient at least) because it is more likely for someone to have open sores in their mouth than in their vagina. The mouth is used for eating, a lot of objects that could potentially cause cuts are put in there, and don't forget there are teeth in them. One can accidentally bite themselves, or get open cuts from teeth brushing.
    None of these could happen to a pussy.

    I also think, when research is done on these risk levels, they do not consider this context of how that certain orifice is used on a daily basis.

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