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    Quote Originally Posted by FranktheGun View Post
    Back from GC. Met a little hottie half German half Asian student. 500 per night i paid her and boy was she fun a definite keeper. On 2 nd night she said we dont need condoms so fucked bareback in my hotel.

    Only thing boys if they park at the hotel make sure they dont charge it to your room Im going to have to explain that one to the boss haha!
    500 per night? thats a great price and seems she's not about the money...

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    Quote Originally Posted by blacksugar View Post
    Don’t pay for just the meetup, unless you have too much money to spend.

    Message her if that’s what you like and you think she likes to as well. Otherwise, they would think you are too needy and looking for a gf.

    We all want a bit of connection and someone to talk to. That’s perfectly normal.
    could that be first date of relationship without commitment? what point u guys talking about prices? end of the meeting or 2nd meeting? I'm agreed with people out there need to have first meeting to see how it goes...

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    Back in the day the Sugar Daddy/Baby thing was not very common and usually involved a very rich man sponsoring a girl, often keeping her in an apartment and paying her rent, maybe giving her a car, giving her a generous allowance, spoiling her with expensive gifts etc, and it was often an exclusive relationship - the Baby didn't see other guys, and the Daddy usually didn't see other girls or maybe if he was super rich he might be running a couple of babies at once.
    But these days mainly because of the internet and various aps what people call Sugar Daddy/Baby is in reality just paying for an escort.
    Basically it's just punting. Sugar Daddies are punters. And Sugar Babies are escorts.
    Any bloke who has an average income of over 80,000 pa can be a sugar daddy.
    80% of men have enough disposable income to pay $400-$500 to catch up with a girl and fuck her once a week.
    And as for the girls, well they can call themselves Sugar Babies, but basically they are escorts or prostitutes.
    There is nothing wrong with being a punter and there is nothing wrong with being an escort.
    In fact there is everything right about it.
    But this farcical nonsense of calling it Sugar Daddy / Sugar Baby is just nonsense.
    Lets just call it what it is Prostitution. Beautiful, wonderful, magical, prostitution - the greatest invention of mankind

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    I never talk price. I focus on the experience I'm going to give them. If they bring up price, that will be the first we speak of it.
    Some of my chats with SA girls seem to fizzle out. I start off conversational, trying not to be too creepy, but probably should try to make the chat more sexy.

    On the other hand I find it fake and off putting if the SBs start using 'darling' or putting kisses right from the start after every single line of chat.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markin View Post
    Some of my chats with SA girls seem to fizzle out. I start off conversational, trying not to be too creepy, but probably should try to make the chat more sexy.

    On the other hand I find it fake and off putting if the SBs start using 'darling' or putting kisses right from the start after every single line of chat.
    Those are the career SBs. Most would be premium members but I've had some awesome times with premium girls.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Markin View Post
    Some of my chats with SA girls seem to fizzle out. I start off conversational, trying not to be too creepy, but probably should try to make the chat more sexy.

    On the other hand I find it fake and off putting if the SBs start using 'darling' or putting kisses right from the start after every single line of chat.
    Sometimes it's them, not you. I've forgotten how many weeks it's been since I joined premium but I've my share of reply/no-reply and I always try to engage in thoughtful (engaging) conversation around their profile.

    Some of their profiles said they want a connection etc but if they don't respond to my open ended questions - just shows they weren't really genuine to be with.

    I have also been using the messages as a way to improve myself in staying "interesting" to talk to, cause I see it as a transferable skill in my everyday life.

    Don't stop believing in yourself.

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    Hi Benny, great thread. I'm very interested in this topic as it's a potential alternative to the ML/WL option perhaps. Various questions will be forthcoming... Thanks in advance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    Some feedback from a recent trip to Melbourne:

    - $400 is still very much achievable in the market
    - I had one girl come over for 4 hours one evening and the following evening she stayed over and I gave her $500. She works in a government agency in a management role and just loves the idea of being paid to fuck. Slim, brunette, petite and a lot of fun.

    So for those of you thinking of sugaring interstate, Melbourne still has an excellent selection of SBs and very reasonable pricing. Of course there are the daydreamers who want $600 or $700 or more, but you just have to sift through those.
    that's decent price but importantly which i agreed with... there's girls out there have jobs considered doing it.

    great thread and insight from you..alot of shit for us to learn.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    February is traditionally a great month for the Sugarbabe sites.

    A few things that increase the number of women signing up to the platforms:

    1. Universities go back and many girls are moving out of home and realising it costs a lot more to enjoy the same lifestyle

    2. They've started thinking about where they are going on holiday, or student debt they want to pay off, or the property market they want to get into, or just the latest handbag they want to buy and a friend has suggested going onto a Sugarbabe site

    3. January is statistically a month where many relationships end - and girls find themselves trying something new. Like sugar dating.

    Hopefully it's a good month for you guys who are thinking of trying it out for the first time.
    I find your observations very insightful.

    To me it reveals and/or provides a hint to what their motives are. Certainly good Intel to use as an advantage and for timing. Could also apply to MLs when it comes to extras/tips.

    Did you uncover these circumstantial insights from general revelations of numerous SBs you've interacted with?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post

    In terms of discretion, I would also say, more broadly, that it's good to have a balanced approach. You don't want to be so private that you are hard work to connect with or the girls never see photos of you. Equally, you don't want to be opening yourself up to scammers. Taking basic precautions are easy - have a video call, meet them in person first, judge by the way the conversation is going whether they sound normal and worth engaging with.

    Does that help?
    Discretion is certainly priority for all the married and partnered punters here including me.

    So what's a good balance approach, whats your practice? How much do you reveal about yourself to the SB?

    Do you portray a certain fictitious but plausible profile about yourself and stick to that story no matter what or do you provide guarded information about you like your relationship status, type of work you do and area you around and set boundaries, rules, agreements at the outset then slowly open yourself up overtime once trust is established with a SB?

    We are greedy and want both worlds. There's always a fear of being exposed, caught, black mailed or a SB developing feelings and that could spill into private life. The fear is real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    You will come across scammers and time wasters on Seeking, just as you do amongst the professional WL / ML class. Knowing how to avoid them is just one benefit of having a group of SDs sharing intel on scammers and we could easily do it on here.

    The upside of Sugarbabes is that it is much harder to get sucked into a bait and switch.
    Would you be willing to provide some guidance, tips or notes to identify the scammers Benny?

    I'm browsing on seeking and boy there's some decent eye candy. Some are IG model types.

    From your observations and experience, what percentage of the pictures are genuine and is actually the girl? Maybe per city basis perhaps ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    I’ve had a number of PMs in the past week from members here asking for feedback on the kind of pricing that is in the Sydney market.

    Guys shelling out $700 - $800 a meet. And often putting out 2-300 for a pre-meet.

    My encouragement is that, if you are reading this and you are on SA talking to these girls, that you gently and politely push back on this. It’s complete bullshit that the girl next door (no matter how much make up and cosmetic surgery she has had) should think that she can charge the same for a meet as a European porn star does. I know this because I’ve fucked a European porn star when I was last there and they advertise widely.

    $500 should be the upper range of what you are prepared to part with. And that should be for a very high quality experience. $500 should also be what you are prepared to pay for a one off - if she wants ongoing (there’s a lot less hassle for her) then I would be ratcheting that down to $400 PPM very quickly.

    Anything more than that is just girls putting their hands out to take you for whatever they can. The more you keep handing those kind of numbers over, the more you distort the market for yourselves and your mates on here.

    It’s hard to say no and keep your cash in your wallet. But it’s necessary to restore some order to the supply - demand equation.
    Nice firm advice about the upper range. But which European porn star did you fucked? Lol did she give you the GFE or PSE? Just asking. Cheers

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    Not sure why there is so much doubt about the value in the Sydney market.

    I got asked on PM what the going rate is for Sugarbabes. My response, as always, is that there is none and don't let anyone quote a "going rate" to you.

    Last night I enjoyed a lovely European lass from out Potts Point way. 24, slim, shaved, easygoing and a lot of fun for the grand high sum of $300 + ubereats dinner for four hours. Two rounds of sex and a lot of chill time in-between. She's on the regular roster now. We'll get tested and go BB next time around.
    Wish I had a FIFO job to visit in between cities. It'll make it easier to play and with some freedom. How often do you have pre-meets and especially sex meets within your city? Because at $300-$500+ (not including dinner and accommodation) over four hours would be VFM if I could sneak away for those hours. However I don't. How do you do it? Going MIA from the missus for extended hours and coming home at night without her suspecting anything? (Can't always return in your gym gear.. right?) What if ur missus wants sex? Does your dick recover that quickly?

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    Not really anything directly related to SB, but im in Surfers for a bit, and FML, the caucs are hot down here even the MILFy ones.

    Id happily bang more than 80% of the caucs around here and im not really "into" then.

    Wont have time to indulge or look around tor any RnT unfortunately!

    Tbf though id assume any shops here wont have the kind of talent walking the streets though.

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    I've given SA a check but there's not much that really catches my eye in comparison with some young escorts. Maybe my account is limited to very few women so I'm not entirely sure.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    Hi Essy

    Good questions. And ones I fortunately worked out when I was still punting in brothels and with Privates.

    A few things on this

    1. The Minister for War is as tight as. So I never battle her head on. It’s a losing proposition.

    2. A few years ago I set up separate online accounts on my banking app. You can do this without needing any paper work and without getting any paperwork in the mail.

    3. I get part of my salary and my bonuses sent to that account. I use those for punting. I always have reasonable increases going through the main account, so that it is not suspicious, but the sleeper account in my name only is also set to private mode and so not shown on the Home Screen of my banking app.

    4. I don’t keep a card for that account - I do cardless cash withdrawals.

    5. I will, with my regulars, use PayID as it is easier and also out of the private account

    6. Tax time - is all done by my tax accountant. As I’m the finance guy in the house, I do all the paperwork - the MoW is not interested in the slightest. She tried it once and got sick of it after a week of it. So now it’s my “chore” to do :-)

    7. Subs to SA - I don’t actually pay these through my sleeper account, I pay these through an Australia Post card (Cash Passport) that I set up years ago. It functions like a debit card.

    Hope this helps answer the questions, but let me know if not.
    Thanks Benny, this is gold. So is the Australia Post card the secret weapon that enables you to pay for everything without leaving any tracks on your bank statements? From paying for lunches, dining and accommodations?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shiba View Post
    My first meet up
    I’m not good at writing reviews but here I go. Had my first meet last Friday. I can say that’s it’s completely different compared to going to brothels. We meet up in the hotel room the afternoon I was quite nervous at this stage as I’ve never done this sort of things before. But at the same time I was excited at meeting this South American girl. Once in the room she also told me that she was nervous and only meet one other time for dinner and nothing else. Seems genuine but who bloody knows.

    Anyway we started chatting about what she does for work and what are her hobbies. Told me she was studying to become a psychologist and working as a nanny at the same time She ask me what I do and if I have a partner/married which I replied yes to the latter. She even mentioned that we should organize to meet up early to get away from the misses. Lol. So she seems keen to meet this old man.

    At this stage I was feeling hungry too so I ask her if she wanted to have lunch in the room which she replied sure if you want too. Damn.. I was thinking is this how all meet ups end up. It was so relaxing without the rush that you get in brothels.

    After we had our lunch that’s when the play time started. I won’t go to too much details but damn… that body of hers is hot. Just think of those South American body curvy and a nice ass type.

    We probably spend about 3.5 hrs together and not once she mentioned about money to me. She said that it’s up to me how much I want to give her and would never ask for more of gifts at all. So I paid her $700 that’s with me paying for her Uber ride as well,even thought she didn’t want to take it.
    She mentioned that 2 weeks ago prior to our meet up btw.

    All in all it was nice to see a lady that you can converse/click with. She was just down to earth/understanding about everything we talk about. Damn… have to be careful not to fall in love with her.

    Thanks to Bennyb n Riff888 for guiding me along on this SA journey.

    Btw I’m meeting up with her again this Friday this time will be for about 5-6 hrs, will update again how this plays out.

    Bro Benny/Riff888 how much you reckon I should give her this time round.

    Cheers guys hope it was too long to read

    Btw I posted in the other thread as well thought I share it here as well.
    Thanks for sharing Shiba. Great read.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    I use what the girl is comfortable with. I usually suggest text / WhatsApp and let her pick kik if that is what she wants to use.

    I leave it in her court so she feels in control and I suggest normally messaging protocols so I don't come across as someone who is used to hookers and expects her to be one too.
    Do you have a separate business phone Benny where all your SB engagements, communications and scouting activities are disguise under the cover of work whilst at home? Otherwise how do keep it discreet and under wraps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BennyB View Post
    Some feedback from a recent trip to Melbourne:

    - $400 is still very much achievable in the market
    - I had one girl come over for 4 hours one evening and the following evening she stayed over and I gave her $500. She works in a government agency in a management role and just loves the idea of being paid to fuck. Slim, brunette, petite and a lot of fun.
    - She had never used many toys before and is in an open relationship with a guy who is living interstate. So we went down to a sex shop in the CBD and I got her some anal beads and a bullet vibrator which could both fit in her handbag. Both were well used on the two nights I was in town
    - Sex was bareback - we had talked enough about sexual history, she is in her late 20's and seems switched on, so I felt comfortable with it - she is on the pill and loves cum in her mouth and in her pussy

    So for those of you thinking of sugaring interstate, Melbourne still has an excellent selection of SBs and very reasonable pricing. Of course there are the daydreamers who want $600 or $700 or more, but you just have to sift through those.
    Great read. Thanks for sharing this experience. The SB sounded like fun.

    Having BB sex feels good and finishing off with creampie is awesome. I know you said she was on the pills but ain't you abit scared it might backfire??

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    I had a chat with a WL and somewhere snuck in between a blowjob, cunnilingus, and fucking and she said she did some sugarbabying (is that even a verb?) and she said she was charging $500 for a date and her friends were charging around the same. A "date" was catching up in a hotel room or sometimes the daddy's place if he was single. She said the unicorn sugardaddy most potential "babies" were looking for was a real old school one who set his baby up in an apartment, paid her an allowance, expensive gifts and fancy restaurants, but she said these guys were super rare, but she said she had a girlfriend whom had found one.

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