Ginza Empire REAL J Model MAI - totally wasted $400 would rather spend it on charity

[cuteguy]

If a shop is providing misleading information about their girls and charging higher prices than what you could get somewhere else then don't go there. Take your money somewhere else. You don't need to be an Einstein to figure it out. Shops increase prices because they see increased demand and maybe it's best to support other shops where there is good talent but the prices are more reasonable.

[Climax598]

Ginza is advertising Jap porn star Mona Kasuga as 22yo in the other thread when a simple Google search will show she's 32. So you got to add another 10 years to their advertised age as a rule of thumb.

Yes add 7 to 10 years for new girls. For some long term girls add 15 years to their advertise age.

[Nebuzu]

That's the thing about GC, and to a lesser extent GE. Their "winning formula" was accurate descriptions and photos of the girls because they did not offer a line-up. It used to be, you look up the girl on their website, checkout some reviews here that gave a good rough idea what you were going to get (looking at you bro rooter), make a booking for the girl and then ... aha! The girl turns out to be very close to what you were expecting based on the above.
They knew that in order to make their "no line-up" model work, their website must portray what the girl is about as accurately as possible. They even have iPads on their front counter showing their website.

Nowadays they seem to have strayed away from this basic strategy. The website design is crap: no search function, randomising the profile sequence, etc. It was OK when they had fewer girls, but now with so many profiles I CBF'ed to endlessly browse profiles just to find the girl I was interested in.

There are also heaps of "stale" profiles there. Girls that have stopped working at GC for months still have their profiles there. That just adds to the pain of using the already bad website design!

So you go through the pain of doing research with this crappy website only to find most of them have inaccurate photos and descriptions. The end result is No line-up and no accurate descriptions, it's as good as a blind punt using yellow pages!

speaking of bad website, the https site for GC is completely borked

...honestly can't remember when it was last working, just seems a really basic issue they should sort out

[Nebuzu]

Yes add 7 to 10 years for new girls. For some long term girls add 15 years to their advertise age.

also for newcomers just going off the site, remember some girls working for 3-5 years and still listed as 19 (J Sally and T Alin come to mind) haven't really been looking at the roster recently though if they're still working

[Mickeydrippen]

also for newcomers just going off the site, remember some girls working for 3-5 years and still listed as 19 (J Sally and T Alin come to mind) haven't really been looking at the roster recently though if they're still working

Great points here. Interestingly enough it seems good reviews reverberate. One the popular places like no5 and 200 Stanmore all have good support and backup from senior members, good websites and accurate descriptions.

[PKING2]

There is another one right, now actress. 430

[Labia Vortex]

Ginza have been dishonest with photos and descriptions for quite awhile
Displays contempt for the punter
If the girl is not as expected I go back to reception and ask to change
I Always apologise to the WL

[Sswilighy]

The only problem I have is the jacked-up prices. $180 for 30min, WTF? It's super dumb to be raising prices in the current market cause a lot of other stuff has gone up and its easy to cut back on punting habit but hard to cut back on essentials like food and transport.

The problem though is the idiots that continue to go and pay the inflated prices instead of shopping around, eg: trying out some of the other shops in their local area and around Sydney.

I know I have cut way back on going to ginza because of their recent price hikes. 150/30min is my limit.

Not to mention I give N5M staff a 5/5.

[wilisno]

The only problem I have is the jacked-up prices. $180 for 30min, WTF? It's super dumb to be raising prices in the current market cause a lot of other stuff has gone up and its easy to cut back on punting habit but hard to cut back on essentials like food and transport.

The problem though is the idiots that continue to go and pay the inflated prices instead of shopping around, eg: trying out some of the other shops in their local area and around Sydney.

I know I have cut way back on going to ginza because of their recent price hikes. 150/30min is my limit.

Good strategy to filter out idiots who attack others for not being able to spend more. No one is calling you a cheapskate, don’t call others idiots !

[hornedbeast]

Bros, don't feel so bad. Come to Queensland and you pay more than Ginza rates for old Chinese Boiler MILF or GILF 50yo+. Sydney is still a paradise. We can only enjoy touring privates for 2 or 3 times Ginza rate. No excuse for fake photos but just to put things in perspective.

[negi]

bro, more than 90 percent of Australian struggling to earn $400 after tax in a day, let alone $400 in just an hour! is a shitty feeling to get ripoff that big amount… is our hard earned money!

[georgeWBC]

As suggested as bro Meng, I created AR in a separate tread for ease of search of punters looking on specific review(s), as the Ginza/479 mega tread are getting too big to search...

Girl's name: J Model Mai (advertised as REAL J Model, 20 year old!! with MINIMUM 1hr booking and jacked up price of $460)
Location: Ginza Empire, 479 Elizabeth St, Surry Hills
Service Date and time: Tuesday 10th May 8:10pm
Rating of Service : 0 out of 5 (see explanation below)
Rating of Look : 0 out of 5 (see description below)
Overall Rating : -1 out of 5 (i rather spend the money on charity)

Got burnt totally wasted $400 on J Model Mai few weeks ago, advertised as 20 year old REAL Japanese model and min 1 hr $460 booking. They did later say just right before the session that her service is bad and they cut $60 upfront when I pay on the counter, but it is implied that i cannot cancel at that moment, so still $400 down the drain.... I should have spend the money on charity instead, at least i feel a little bit better about it.
Although her service was bad, it wasn't her service that was shockinng...it was the other facts that they didn't say....her face is very plasticky in a bad way, frizzy hair, and the most shocking is her boobs is drooping and wrinkly like dried prunes, no way she is a model...., servicewise she looks so tired/sleepy?/high? I actually pity her... , so i just let her sleep on my arm for and left feeling sad after bell rang.

I think that day Ginza just disappointed at least 8 of their best loyal best high spending customers that day..., and they didn't care

It reminded me little bit of my experience with MOC (myoutcall)... they was popular at start with a few amazing girls (perhaps 2-3?) e.g. Ruby (i still remember tall Chinese beautiful long legs girl), then they do the money grabbing things..., fake ads ($700-&900/hr for a village girl from China with bushy armpits advertised as model)... then sell the business... then i heard the new owner totally wasted their investment as the MOC name was not an asset but rather a liability as everybody hates the brand...lol

Ginza and Ginza empire are not like they used to be, they are untrustworthy now… photos are pointless as they are totally misleading (sometimes even is blatant fake), blatant lie description of the girl, and money-grabbing pricing. If you see min 45 hr or min 1 hr booking, jacked up price?...is a sign to run away! as the quality would be worse rather than better..., is an opportunistic mechanism for them to rip you off.
I have been loyal customers of Ginza and Ginza Empire since 2013... , till they become so God damn rich now... instead of treating their loyal regular customers well, this is what i got...LOL!! Not even a partial refund... greedy people!

i would recommend to only 30 min booking first at $160 price max and more prudent way is to read review first from people in the forum whom you know can trust from their historical postings.., if that still doesn't work, insist of seeing the line up first and refuse to pay any $15, $20 fee of bullshit things that they try to impose on you, or rather simply... don't give them business opportunity to earn your hard earned money!!

We all can travel to Japan now and get cheaper and better deal…, they are foreigner friendly brothels too nowadays…, see first before you pay, beside is time for holiday too! need new ambience after stuck in Sydney for 2 years...

cheers! happy punting!

Well done on posting this. We need more people to call these shops out for the fake advertising and inflated prices for girls you would not fuck. Customers are king and should be respected and treated with alot of hospitality. Its all about repeat business and they wont be getting much of that the way they are going

[phoenix555]

Ginza is a no go recently.

Girl age has increased and service quality is decreased.

[DoinFine]

Anyone know why the recent drop in quality did they change management or something? Thought they had new guys in reception
not a fan of 2 price raises in 2 months