Falling for a ML

[Skip07]

I’m in the process of falling hard for an ML so this is fascinating to read.

It’s amazing how the right words, reciprocal desire, kindness and attention can be intoxicating. Not to mention receiving service quality that goes above and beyond standard extras.

Especially when you are lonely, or feeling empty.

Is seems this an angle the women play regularly to hook a customer for longer and more regular visits or a sadistic power play? Or both?

So… help bring me back to my senses. Convince me I’m being played (or not)!

Give this girl your phone number, explain that you are taking a break and that you won’t be seeing her in the shop again, and walk away. If she is into you, she will contact you. If not, you have your answer.

If you continue seeing her in the shop, you will only hurt yourself more and more.

[thematrixfly]

Avoid at all costs!

I am now going to give an example.

I unfortunately made the mistake of falling for a ML. Had a very long relationship (12yrs). Said She loved Me and will always be with me no matter what.
I was too gullible to see the warning signs. Was in a well paying Job, so did not mind slipping some money Her way.

It was only recently with the cost of living taking it's toll that I had to make some changes. First was letting Her know that the Pocket Money would be less. This is where it all went pear shaped. I was now called heartless, didn't love Her and not caring for having to do this. She was relying on the Money to help Her elderly Mother back home.
I suggested that we move in together to help try and save some money. (Cheaper Rent). I was now being told that I was taking advantage of Her. (WTF?)

At this point I decided to just let Her vent. We were done anyway, what more could hurt. The kicker is that because of our relationship, She had to pass up a better Job offer Interstate. (As If.)

You will be hurt. Have Your fun and no more. Walk away whilst You can.

[harry444]

You need to look at the culture differences. Australia gives you whatever you want via social security, etc. In a lot of Asian countries you will die without money.

[4FoW2]

So… help bring me back to my senses. Convince me I’m being played (or not)![/QUOTE]

You are vulnerable, thats all, many of us have been there.
How did your relationship start? = You paid her money.
Use your brain, you're smarter than that.
Remember she's supposed to be the sucker not you.
4FoW2

[Dr Grafton Everest]

My experience is that most MLs are quite lonely, and have a small social circle. Not all... But most. And a good many actually crave for a 'normal boyfriend' and 'normal life'.

I would say, for a decent and kind man, it is completely natural to develop feelings for a fair percentage of ML's.

I like women. I like having female friends more than male friends. I've had strong feelings for a number of ML's. And if any of them ever rang me and said "Grafton, can you please help me?" I would probably help them any time of day or night. (maybe I'd shy away from loaning a large sum of money.... I'm not reckless)

A 'happy medium' might be to ask the ML to be a social escort for you. See them in a more natural setting (outside shop), but agree on a time and price for the 'experience'... I've done this. Sometimes it's been great, sometimes not. But more often it's pretty fun.

But I strongly recommend you NEVER try and 'date' or form a 'relationship'. It's likely to end in turmoil for you, and possibly her.

Sexual jealousy is a curse, and it's NOT something that you can control with meditation or normal rational thinking... And it will sour things.

[Stalkingbutler]

This is all very solid feedback, I appreciate it. Believe it or not it’s actually quite helpful. Good to have perspective from others.

Feeling rather foolish really. And not bitter at the ML at all. I still think she is sweet and is only doing her job. Just, a little too well for someone still wet behind the ears.

The experiences have been worthwhile and I’ll be a lot less naive next time.

Now, to drown my sorrows!

[Dr Grafton Everest]

This is all very solid feedback, I honestly appreciate it. Believe it or not it’s actually quite helpful to my specific situation. Good to have perspective from a range of more experienced punters, I’ve only been in the game a short while.

Feeling rather foolish really. And not bitter at the ML at all. I still think she is sweet and is only doing her job. Just, a little too well for someone still wet behind the ears.

The experiences have been worthwhile and I’ll be a lot less naive next time someone I pay tells me they love me.

Now, to drown my sorrows!

It is indeed possible the woman does love you. I'd go further to say that a good many ML's would, from time to time, feel real love for at least one client.

But that does not change the dynamic... regardless is she 'feels true love for you' or 'feels true like for you' or 'feels a little for you'.... If you choose to try and form a relationship with a SW, you are still going to experience strong feelings of sexual jealousy. And that will be a major challenge for you.

[4FoW2]

This is all very solid feedback, I honestly appreciate it. Believe it or not it’s actually quite helpful to my specific situation. Good to have perspective from a range of more experienced punters, I’ve only been in the game a short while.Feeling rather foolish really. And not bitter at the ML at all. I still think she is sweet and is only doing her job. Just, a little too well for someone still wet behind the ears.The experiences have been worthwhile and I’ll be a lot less naive next time someone I pay tells me they love me. Now, to drown my sorrows!

Hi Stalking - through your honest writing you seem like a decent chap. One more bit of advice: if you know your demographic is for Asian girls be proactive and seek them outside MS. I'd be shoping at Sunnybank, visiting Inala Plaza, dropping into Garden City, maybe inner city and Southbank. I don't mind telling you some 20 years ago I moved suburbs to be closer to Asian central. For the past 15 years I have had an Asian partner who I would not swap for the world. When I was at high school I had a Taiwanese gf who was sweet and so sexy in her short school uniform, I knew this was my calling.
So if Asian girls are your hankering be proactive, seek and you will find. I did and if I did ...you know the rest.
Regards
4FoW2

[jaccky]

Sensible advice, run while you still can!

[gpeck80]

You have to go further and realise it's not feminism though, it's the enablers. Who enabled all this? The white knights. If it wasn't for them then these things would not have come into law. I dislike the white knights more than I do the feminists. Next, it won't be surprising if they create a "Bachelor's tax" because of declining fertility rates because men don't want to take the risk anymore and even that will counter your suggestion of focusing on your own happiness. But I agree, if you don't want to be one of the growing male suicide statistics, for the time being until then, focusing on your own happiness or going your own way is the logical thing to do in today's culture/society.

Go even further. Big business is the ultimate winner. Women spend more than they earn, so taking full time jobs away from men and giving them to women keeps spending up, which keeps inflation going up, which in essence is a hidden tax on everything. Two genders in all jobs (full time / part time /casual) jobs compared to one, creates more taxes than one and an oversupply of workers means wages are kept low (they started stagnating 5-10 years after feminism and that will continued as long as feminism isnt rolled back). Women are told to stay single, they get more into debt - debt slavery, before feminism women were not in debt at all. A woman in debt is easier to sexually/financially control/corrupt. Those that are depressed about being single, buy antidepression/anxiety meds, who profits? Big pharma. What is big pharma, big business? What is big business?

Patriarchy. Thus feminism is a tool used by patriarchy to oppress us all, through the guise of empowering women.

[gpeck80]

Right on the money. In this context there is an interesting interview with the late filmmaker and music promoter Aaron Russo who for some time got befriended by Nick Rockefeller. In that interview he explains - amongst other things that he learned from N. Rockefeller - why the 'global elite' invented and pushed feminism. The interview can be found on Youtube.

consider also this. Before women got the vote, their income was hidden and thus

COULDNT BE TAXED.

How could the authorities tax both genders? .... they thought. Hmmm. Eureka! Give women the vote. This meant they filled out a voting card - ie, where they lived, their occupation, how much land they owned, their income. All the information required to pay taxes.

The vote for women wasnt a good thing, and was again sold to them as empowerment. Women are naturally jealous of men. Tell them men have power that theyre missing out on and hey presto. Women fall for it. Women voting is a tool to oppress them and both genders financially. Having both genders (all adults) total information involved the creation of the big brother state. Until the vote, the only info the king of england had was birth, christening and death certificates filled out by a community's local priest. If you check literally every country and what year they started making women pay taxes, it happened just after giving women the vote.... Sneaky and clever.

[bradpitt]

How could the authorities tax both genders? .... they thought. Hmmm. Eureka! Give women the vote. This meant they filled out a voting card - ie, where they lived, their occupation, how much land they owned, their income. All the information required to pay taxes.
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Lets get back on the topic of having relationships with MLs & WGs.

I have to go to an asian county for a week of work. I am thinking of inviting one of the SBs that I met during the year to join me. She can then go off and visit her family after I leave. In one way it's time effective as I will have a live in girl at call for the first week I am there. Cost of air flight is probably similar to cost of different girl each night.

BUT I'm back in this same WGs/Sbs are all about money.

[maxg05]

Hi , I went out with a ML almost 2 years , a great girl had a great time and she always was upfront when we got more serious , most of them just switch on at work and play the game as do strippers , then go home forget about it and hang out with boyfriend , hubby or friends , its that simple . And the good money is the motivation , trust me if most of them could do something else and make decent money they would , well thats just my Experience ?

Just going through this old post. Can you pm a little more of some dramas you had ? Had a recent issue myself lol

[carlco777]

if you think you can fall in love with someone who sucks randoms off for cash, well, any kind of advice you get in here is not going to help you. you cannot be helped.

so-called 'love' is always selfish. how do you share ? impossible. if your wife cheated on you just once, can you forgive her ? how do you know there won't be a second time ? if she cheated on you, how far back did that happen ? would you take all your kids for DNA testing to make sure they are yours ? it goes on and on. if you cannot forgive your wife, how are you going to accept someone who willingly does things to other men for money, and then say to you that you are so so special ?

[Bed Wrecker]

People in love do stupid things. Ml or not.
One of Brisbanes best mls has a boyfriend who must be a fucking saint. He knows everything.

[joeblow251]

Maybe the "boyfriends" have worked out at least they are getting their turn for free and not like us losers paying for it... who knows...

[Jamesyouare]

I think it’s pretty straight - they “massage” for cash - what else they do you’ll NEVER know

Considering what non working girls do it’s just crazy

So as always exceptions but in the norm maybe if open and happy share the go there but maybe don’t call it “love” you cannot do normal shit in these situations

It’s best to be straight/honest/open- especially with yourself then her

[Michaelli2000]

Bros

Rathet than having relationship with ML, why not just go for no string attached KTV?

Do you know any KTV joints / Karaoke Bar in Brisbane that offer female companionship, singing and drinking together?

If you are from Asian countries, you would know what I mean

Thanks again

[exflux]

Bros

Rathet than having relationship with ML, why not just go for no string attached KTV?

Do you know any KTV joints / Karaoke Bar in Brisbane that offer female companionship, singing and drinking together?

If you are from Asian countries, you would know what I mean

Thanks again

underwood. japanese n korean

[jaccky]

Bros

Rathet than having relationship with ML, why not just go for no string attached KTV?

Do you know any KTV joints / Karaoke Bar in Brisbane that offer female companionship, singing and drinking together?

If you are from Asian countries, you would know what I mean

Thanks again

I didn't know these existed in Brisbane. How can I find these arrangements?