With the prices of punts these days the quality is just not justifying the amount paid by us punters. The Japanese girls used to be good punts but even them are more often not worth the money paid.. WL who is here for short stay are working long hours to pull in as much money as possible before their trip back home and majority of them are too over worked to provide decent service for their charges. Better luck with next meeting as it is punting have to do with the good and bad.
I don’t disagree. I am not bothering to spend money on any meeting any ladies and am restricting myself to a few regulars who I’ve know for a while and who occasionally throw in an extra hour so for me on a quiet day. That way I can calculate the value-for-money on quite a bit less than $150-20 /ph. Even then it can be a stretch .Originally Posted by akkw
But how do define “value” - what are you not getting?
Agreed. The prices keep going up for no reason than “they’re fresh off the plane” without any indication of quality of service, but my salary isn’t going up.
For the meanwhile I’ll be sticking to my $150hr regulars unless someone outstanding and well reviewed comes along.
Completely agree. Many girls are tired and their attitude is not enthusiastic. Service might be ok but it's mechanical and I can't enjoy it If the girl is unhappy. It's becoming really hit and miss. Was it like this before the lockdowns?
But how do define “value” - what are you not getting?[/QUOTE]
Looks have been average and demanding premium dollars, tired, mechanical just ticking off the boxes.
Before lockdown there were more quality punts ofcourse every now and then you get the dud.
Agreed. Also not enough trust worthy reviews. The only frequent reviews made are the least accurate as well. It is what it is. That’s why it’s called punting I guess.
I agree that the experience with many ladies now seems stale and tired. But I have trouble bringing myself to blame them.
Many of these ladies got dudded as much as we do. Maybe bigger. They knew they were coming here to do sex-work. And many very happy having plenty of sex. So much so they believed Some friend-of-a-friend when he or she described working at Stilettos’ or some such premium establishment in Australia. Then because it was “so incredibly difficult” to be selected for these opportunities they paid between AUD 10-20,000 to that “friend” as they refer to that person. To get them a job in some shithole like Ashfield295 or 99Annandale - where the managers do their best to keep them in a perpetual state of ignorance about what other types of sex work besides being endlessly fucked bareback by tweakers for 5 hours a go or inebriated Indians for 15 minutes (but only if he comes twice, otherwise he’ll “be talking to the boss”).
For that existential experience, emotive exhilaration and intellectual connection you would be wrong to expect value from a paid sex.
Let's face it if it's not the several pineapples I leave on the massage table the 20 something girl wouldn't even want to look at me although I'm not an unattractive man.
I'm starting to space my puntings. Once every 2 weeks is exciting. And once every month is heavenly. My regular was more than happy to me after a recent 3 weeks absence. She takes love making to greater height. We were in cloud nine.
This is a paid escapism. We are all trying to search for something which is not there and never exists.
Sometimes reading a good book or watching a great inspiring movie is just as rewarding.
Everytime I walk out of the backdoor of a parlour to take the long road to the station there is an emptiness within me. I meet two or three punters on the way out they look as lost and unfulfilled as I am.
Are none of the "good/quality punts" you talk about back working? Most of the pre-lockdown regulars that I see have long been back working and are providing the same levels of service, yes the prices have gone up but that is to be expected (what hasn't gone up in price). Why don't you visit them? it's called punting for a reason. We have influence on the "quality" of the session, if a punter is a rude, aggressive, unhygienic prick with a god complex who thinks he has some sort of ownership claim because he passed over a few dollars how do you expect the lady to respond? Boundless enthusiasm? Give me a break.
i too can attest that the recent price hikes in my usual ML haunts have not reflected in an increase in punt quality. If anything the quality has declined imo, making me even not come back to see certain MLs.
Its the price hike in both the massage and part 2/3.
I'm usualling looking for the holy trinity
1. Great part 1
2. Great part 2/3
3. Under $150 spend
Recently ive been losing out on all 3!
The other thing i benchmark against are the proper legit (non-thai) massage / physio places. They're usually $70+ for half an hour. To me if i get a back fixing massage while getting my balls drain for similar value then its a bargain.
But like i said, its been hard finding and retaining said gems
Very nicely put. I don’t think I’ve ever paid a lady money to get “relief” or even to “cum”. Obviously both those things are great. But not so great you’d pay money for them without being delivered wrapped in something something worth a whole lot more.
I remember when I first made a few posts after joining here. I was surprised how many people thought I was a fool for ever buying more than an hour with a lady , talking to her except to give instructions, or permitting the lady to do anything but work diligently to attend my sexual needs.
Although I eventually learned the hard way that even prostitutes with no English skills whatsoever can somehow still lie to you incessantly and well enough to make you believe they are a sweet and generous soul who despises all men but you…an investment in time and kindness can occasionally return to you in the form of some very special experiences that you’ll never find back in the real world. But you never know if it’s worth making the investment - I’d say in 19/20 working ladies you just get seen as easy money and they bank that money unable to believe anyone could be so stupid.
The 20th though…that’s unforgettable…and why you don’t go back to the real world and look for a regular girlfriend no matter had bad your finances are getting.
This very thoughtful and I think true. The last day of the Cherry Blossom festival in Japan is called “ mono no aware” first explained to me as meaning the pathos of things. Other descriptions of the phase takes it as meaning nothing lasts forever. That pathos you describe affected me greatly after a couple of surprisingly pleasant, friendly and warm punts. I’m not sure that my heart is up to to the afterglow pathos of punting. Maybe MLS only for me. I don’t worry so much about those girls well fare so much as well. I wonder as some of our senior members seem to be ML mainly if they have any comments on this.
I was living in Asia for a big part of the pandemic, this industry went down big time. hk,china,Taiwan were relatively covid free, ktvs open while other industries struggling yet quality was poor. For these countries my guess is the PYTs stopped rejecting the lower to middle class guys chasing them and settled down. Japan might be similar story
I also think I am a crappier punter now, with my very few first time visits now I've decided early into the punt whether I'm returning, think the girl senses that too. But I'm content with a few regulars not really lured by fresh talent or this get in early before they're jaded attitude.
Recently due to the increase in price to the higher quality WL, I notice the price difference from Western establishment are getting smaller.
Does it make anyone go to the Western establishment or they remain for the extra services and customer loyalty?
I find my relationship with MLs to be more superficial than with WLs. For that reason I am avoiding WLs for a while as I have had issues recently. Having said that I had a fabulous FS punt last Friday but I was with a new girl so no issues there.
I will stick with MLs for now
Totally agree, this is why you should try internet dating, to fulfil the mental emptiness that left behind from punting, thats why guys date fat ugly girls, than go punting at the brothel after their date.
Fucking hell this is too real. I'm ML only because of this. At least I get some kind of physical benefit out of it if the MLs are good.
You guys are askiing way too much of a young Asian girl without much in the way of English skills. She isn't a psychiatrist, she's not an empath, a mind- reader, a friend or a shoulder to cry on. She's there to make more money than she can back home for as little effort as possible in terms of dealing with you. You're the 5th cock that day, her pussy is sore and she's feeling a bit pre-menstral. Treat her as you would your physio lady. With respect, pleasant conversation and appropriate money for her skills and ability to drain your balls and simply walk out the door a happy man at the end of your hour.
You're also overthinking the whole exercise. Just as a strained hamstring needs some work so do your balls. If you're not getting that at home, you're in effect asking a specialist nutsack physio to do it for you. Make a booking, pay your money, walk out the door.
For what it's worth, I find ML a much better experience. I can enjoy the illusion that she's choosing to do FS with me, as opposed to having to do it with me.
To reiterate, she's not your girlfriend or a partner, she's a nutsack physio. Say thanks very much and walk out the door and start thinking about where to get a good coffee.
Agree maybe some of the members here need some psychological help more than physical one, where others are vice versa, either way most of us need to fix ourselves first
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