Yes I’m an idiot, is this making it worse?

[Daffy]

So last year I went on a couple of dates with a M/L I seemed to form a bit of a bond with. Went great for a couple of dates then she asked to borrow some money to help with school then rent and other things. Me being a naive twit (and thinking with my dick rather than my head) said fine.

So around $1500 in she abruptly stops contact and leaves the country. Had her number but she gave it to someone and they told me she was gone and to leave them alone. She actually messaged me while overseas and seemed apologetic, but after a couple of days asked for more money. At this point I just stopped responding and left it there as a lesson learnt and money lost.

Well I just found out that she might be back in the country and working at a couple of new shops under a new name. So I’ve decided I’m going to make a booking and go see her to have a little chat about maybe getting some of that money back.

So what I’m asking is should I just cut my loses here or go through with the booking and see what happens?

[legitl]

Cut your losses before you get escorted off the premises or she says you did something inappropriate.

[ReginaldBubbles]

I have had the opposite experience over the last few years. Various world events and family situations have led to my having some cashflow problems and wls have insisted on lending me money and then refusing repayment when they left the country. I would feel guilty if I didn't know how much money they were making. But I was seeing them all outside of the shop and I can't tell if this make me a simp or an alpha??

[dotcumdotinyou]

Let's see...

In another thread you said when you go to a brothel the girls give you the cash back as well as a tip. And now they're throwing money at you and refusing repayment.

You're neither simp or alpha, you're a sibon.

[RLC]

What are you going to do when she denies owing you or pretends not to know you?

On the flip side, if she greets you with open arms, what are you going to do when the sob story about the sick relatives comes out so she has no money to give comes out?

[GoldfishMan]

I think you have zero chance of getting your money back. If you can come to terms with that, and have enough discipline not to do anything stupid during your session, you can go for it and enjoy your ML. If you can't, suggest you cancel it bro.

[jsw1888]

So last year I went on a couple of dates with a M/L I seemed to form a bit of a bond with. Went great for a couple of dates then she asked to borrow some money to help with school then rent and other things. Me being a naive twit (and thinking with my dick rather than my head) said fine.

So around $1500 in she abruptly stops contact and leaves the country. Had her number but she gave it to someone and they told me she was gone and to leave them alone. She actually messaged me while overseas and seemed apologetic, but after a couple of days asked for more money. At this point I just stopped responding and left it there as a lesson learnt and money lost.

Well I just found out that she might be back in the country and working at a couple of new shops under a new name. So I’ve decided I’m going to make a booking and go see her to have a little chat about maybe getting some of that money back.

So what I’m asking is should I just cut my loses here or go through with the booking and see what happens?

Cut losses and add it to the list of life learnings

[Daffy]

What are you going to do when she denies owing you or pretends not to know you?

On the flip side, if she greets you with open arms, what are you going to do when the sob story about the sick relatives comes out so she has no money to give comes out?

Not sure but I have a heap of texts from her asking to borrow the money and her saying she will pay it back. The sob story is a bit harder because I’m a big softie.

I think you have zero chance of getting your money back. If you can come to terms with that, and have enough discipline not to do anything stupid during your session, you can go for it and enjoy your ML. If you can't, suggest you cancel it bro.

Agree with you here. I’m not expecting the money back but I have this annoying character flaw where I will always give people a chance to do the right thing even if I know they won’t. Same reason I stick with a job I hate, I want to believe the lies that they are trying to get better because the alternative is they are just shit people.

Cut losses and add it to the list of life learnings

This is the hard one for me. Loosing the money I can deal with and I can see the mistakes I’ve made. But I’m always going to want to help people where I can and try to see the best in them. Even though I know most people are (to quote Dr. Cox) bastard coated bastards with a creamy bastard filling.

[Rookiestones]

Daffy. Mate just let it go. Move on my friend, just move on. Yes, admit that this was a very tough pill to swallow but you need to put it behind you and look forward to the life ahead rather than the regrets of the past. Again, just let it go and move on.

[johnstrike]

Daffy i know where you are coming from.

You have have White Knight syndrome. You need to help people and most time you can't say no. Every ML/WL have some sort off problems.

From what i can work out, these are the problems they have.
Money
Visa
Loneliness
sex addiction

right now my reg has 3 out 4, and money is not one off them.

[CharlieM]

So last year I went on a couple of dates with a M/L I seemed to form a bit of a bond with. Went great for a couple of dates then she asked to borrow some money to help with school then rent and other things. Me being a naive twit (and thinking with my dick rather than my head) said fine.

So around $1500 in she abruptly stops contact and leaves the country. Had her number but she gave it to someone and they told me she was gone and to leave them alone. She actually messaged me while overseas and seemed apologetic, but after a couple of days asked for more money. At this point I just stopped responding and left it there as a lesson learnt and money lost.

Well I just found out that she might be back in the country and working at a couple of new shops under a new name. So I’ve decided I’m going to make a booking and go see her to have a little chat about maybe getting some of that money back.

So what I’m asking is should I just cut my loses here or go through with the booking and see what happens?

No! Your not an idiot buddy. You sound like a good person who helped someone in a time of need. We are who we are. The ML is a bitch slut for taking advantage of you. Live and learn.

[Double_Adapter]

This thread reads like a fucken Disney movie, nevertheless the advice given is solid.
If punting had a theme song, the lyrics from the movie frozen would need to be in it.

"Let it go, let it go
Can't hold it back anymore
Let it go, let it go
Turn away and slam the door"

"Let it go, let it go
And I'll rise like the break of dawn
Let it go, let it go
That perfect girl is gone"

[abovetherim]

$1500 is like two days worth of work for ML these days isn’t it? Sounds to me like she’s a liar/scammer who took advantage of an easy target. Feel for you mate as I’ve done some dumb stuff as well.

[Daffy]

You have have White Knight syndrome. You need to help people and most time you can't say no.

Absolutely this and it’s something I actually struggle with. More than once I’ve pulled over to help someone change a flat tyre or taken an empty trolley back for a mum trying to get a young child in the car after shopping.

Even got threatened with getting sacked when I locked up the shop I was managing to help a girl who had been hit by a bus out front as I’m first aid trained. Took about 20 minutes for the ambos to get there while I was holding this girls head and neck still, she had a skull fracture and was bleeding pretty badly.

There is no real Disney moment here though. I try to do the right thing by others and hope others will too even though the overwhelming evidence is that people just look out for themselves.

[Daffy]

So the other issue I’ve got here now is she may have started working at one of my regular massage shops (like once a fortnight sort of deal). I get on great with the mamasan here so too so going to have to play nice to avoid any awkwardness.

[GoldfishMan]

No! Your not an idiot buddy. You sound like a good person who helped someone in a time of need. We are who we are. The ML is a bitch slut for taking advantage of you. Live and learn.

Well said mate. He's a good guy for sure!

[User1234]

Another one of these threads...

[Raybo]

I saw an ML pretty regularly during 2020. I stopped seeing her 2021 mainly because she was working in places that werent convenient for me to visit. We were still in touch, trying to work out ways to catch up.

Wind the clock forward to the day of the 2nd lockdown in Sydney. She had just paid $2000 for her dodgy English course that kept her student visa in check, when I told her that lockdown started again 6pm that evening. She had less than $350 in the bank and a few bucks cash with no way of earning any income for the foreseeable future. I lent her a little cash here and there during lockdown so she could eat and pay rent until she couldn't do it any longer and went back to Thailand.

We kept in touch, perhaps every few months, her intention was to come back to Sydney. Raising the $$$ back in Thailand was difficult, she didn't want to work in Thailand in case she got found out. Just as I was about to kiss my cash goodbye I get a message from her saying she was back in town. I still haven't got any money back but she is keen to catch up. I haven't brought it up yet, but there is light at the end of the tunnel.

[Sibon]

So last year I went on a couple of dates with a M/L I seemed to form a bit of a bond with. Went great for a couple of dates then she asked to borrow some money to help with school then rent and other things. Me being a naive twit (and thinking with my dick rather than my head) said fine.

So around $1500 in she abruptly stops contact and leaves the country. Had her number but she gave it to someone and they told me she was gone and to leave them alone. She actually messaged me while overseas and seemed apologetic, but after a couple of days asked for more money. At this point I just stopped responding and left it there as a lesson learnt and money lost.

Well I just found out that she might be back in the country and working at a couple of new shops under a new name. So I’ve decided I’m going to make a booking and go see her to have a little chat about maybe getting some of that money back.

So what I’m asking is should I just cut my loses here or go through with the booking and see what happens?

Yes we've heard this story all the time.

Lucky it's only $1500 and not $150,000.

Consider yourself fortunate.

[Ghost2hauntU]

$1500 is like two days worth of work for ML these days isn’t it? Sounds to me like she’s a liar/scammer who took advantage of an easy target. Feel for you mate as I’ve done some dumb stuff as well.

She’s probably supporting her boyfriends drug or gambling habits.
OP should cut his losses.