I went through that awful feeling, knowing the girl you like is getting fucked by 8-10 customers a day. It feels like a torture. But I think I already passed that stage given it is almost a year now.Originally Posted by abovetherim
IMHO, I never understood why some guys date a WG/WL/ML.
You're literally already getting the goods from her without the fuss of having to date/take her out/buy gifts etc just to get her to put out.
Then u complicate it by going backwards & trying to date her all over again.
*Mind Blown !!*
It is like a stage I test. I guess if I can’t handle the review, then I need to stop asking her out and delete her wechat.
I actually pushed myself to read every single review on her (punters gradually stopped writing reviews after 6-12 months when girls slowly lost their freshness and popularity). It did give me nightmares (insomnia, to be more precise). But I managed to pass my “probation”.
There was one time that she discussed review with me. She actually complained about the narrative being exaggerated and more of an “erotic literature”, and told me she doesn’t give a shit about how they bullshit her sexual performance in the forum.
Maybe she was trying to send a message to me as well.
You’re stronger than I am, and I wish you all the best.
I don’t mind being friends/friendly with them, but dating them isn’t something I could do.
Thank you. glad to see someone bringing up this topic. It is something that I can only share with people anonymously. Imagine if I tell my friends this, they will be like “WTF”.
You are right! She told me that one of the reasons she went aboard is to escape from her family issues, of course to make money too coz Chinese economy is a mess now. I think me being from the same place and having no communication barrier makes her feel safe and nostalgic too. She also admitted that this line of work is more difficult than she initially thought (like punters wanted cum twice in an hour, which really made her suffer. 69 makes her extremely uncomfortable, etc) Also she spends more time in this pit than what she initially planned.
I won’t push her as I know it very well that a WG can’t have a normal relationship or life unless she quits the sex job. I’m willing to wait and help her if she quits and asks, but I don’t know what her future plan is. I’m sure she wants something from me, but if it is a ticket out, I feel she has been waiting for too long to fire the shot.
I would like to share something from the cultural perspective. Chinese culture/social norms are really hostile towards divorced woman with kid. They are often considered as write-offs or liabilities by guys after dating/marriage. She is hitting 33 this year. Given her age, kid and line of work, she could have a pretty low self-esteem in starting a new relationship or marriage if she is open about her family status. This could explain why she never mentioned visa sponsorship again because she is afraid that her confession might freak me out and I will ditch her. Or another scenario could be she filed the divorce back home and accepted me, but I turned my back after a few years with her. Then her life will be doomed and this is 10 times worse than working in a brothel.
Some punters mentioned people having low self-esteem/social status tend to date WGs. But in China, this could be the other way around. I do have school mate back in China marrying the girl who used to do high end escort job. Some of my high school friends actually showed some kind of admiration and even envy about it. I am not saying everyone agrees with this and some people actually despise this too. I think a more accurate statement is “people specifically targeting WG to be their gf tend to have low self-esteem/social status.” To defend my position, it is not hard for me to find other girls given my income level, and I hang out with this WG because I’m willing to.
Thank you! Your punters are really nice here.
Silverfox1985
Wow what a journey and seems far from over. Here's hoping u both get out of the friendship what u hope for and need. Admiration to someone who's prepared to put another's well being first and foremost. Here's wishing u both the very best
Silverfox I admire your openness and mental fortitude, I hope for your sake that you both find a resolution to your satisfaction 🙏
Every situation and every lady is different.
I have casually dated about a dozen working gals over the years without falling in love. Never bothered me that they were banging dozens of guys a week because it was just meaningless sex and I was in a real relationship anyway.
None of them ever asked for financial help or expensive gifts, we were just friends and I was certainly not after anything more than someone to talk to and share time with.
Mind you I am aware of the types to look out for, those who see money as King and will do and say anything to get you hooked and access to your wallet.
I am currently in a fabulous relationship with a girl I met in the biz a few years ago. I will not go in to details other than to say we tell each other absolutely everything about ourselves and our lives and spend a large part of our free time together. Yes I usually pay but she does sometimes and that is no different to any regular relationship I have ever had.
Am I in love, absolutely. Is she? She loves me, but in love .... the jury is out, too complex a question. Am I naive.....hell no. I know we will remain friends whatever happens and to be honest that is enough for me.
She is the reason I have not visited any WL or ML for quite some time and may never again. A truly profound positive influence on my life for all time. Most definitely one in a billion.
So saying I have to agree with a lot of the comments on here. Do not think with your dick. If you are visiting WL/ML for sexual relief then keep it contractual. If you see her outside of her place of work keep that contractual too. If she asks for financial help use your head and logic. Most times it is a major red flag.
The most important thing is what she does for you, what she gives up for you and what she talks to you about.
Does she show an honest interest in you as a person? Does she go out of her way to see you? Does she contact you just to say hello or ask how your day is?
It is the little things that she does and says that matters most.
Curious, do you have friends that also punt?
I have a mate that we go punting. We don't do threesomes we see separate girls however I did recommend this wl Ive been seeing whom I believe does great service.
Long story short he started to feel for her and wanted to take her out and told me not to see the girl anymore. I just laugh. Then talked about what's the possibility of him marrying the girl, is it gonna be awkward if i see her at his house one day or them getting married knowing I already exploded all over her mouth and face?
Mate, I did have friends punting 5-6 years ago. I don’t seem to find anyone in my current social circle punting. At least we won’t tell each other if we punt.
The scenario you described is awkward, but it is a calculated risk if you decide to marry a WG.
There is a difference high end escort girls in China maybe only see 3 clients a week or less if lucky enough to meet a sugar daddy it will just be him till the monthly allowance & gift stop but here they see an average of 8 to 10 clients a day doing all sorts of services
Understood, not a very good analogy. I just wanted to send my message across: “people willing to date WG are not always lack of self-esteem”’.
BDU What you say makes a lot of sense. I was in a one way relationship with an ML and I really loved her and I thought she did too. Not visiting any other MLs as well. I was naive I guess.
Probably should have added - Does she introduce you to her non sex industry friends and her family?
In my case it is a little bit of both with a very good current reason not to let too many people know we are seeing each other. That reason will be gone in the next year so I will see how we progress then.
No strictly shop no introductions. Glad I have moved on and I should have heeded all the warning signs. Hope all goes well with you BDU cheers
People with debt issues cannot be saved. They have an addiction that cannot be satiated. I know a person who sold her fully paid house to live in a rental apartment in the city with her two kids, she had an alcohol and gambling habit. She lost her job years later, had to move into the rural areas and since then have been living in a rollercoaster of financial issues. Her son stopped talking to her because she has been squandering his money - every month she'd ask him for "filial piety" money and sometimes would also demand extra "emergency" money because she lost a significant amount from gambling. And until today she refuses to fix her relationship with her son all because she believes that her son owes her his life, as if giving birth to him was a loan he had to pay off.
And it's okay for you to fuck a different girl every visit to the brothel? You live in a country where people fight for gender equality, deal with it.
Some people like you are so self-absorbed.
Haha, leave it to JJ to take "offence" from just about anything. I'll say it again, you're full on nutcase.
What "goods"? I'm pretty sure you're a woman pretending to be a man. Only materialistic, idiotic women would think of her pussy as "goods".
Intimacy, interaction and mental connection is the ultimate goods.
Mind blown yet, Dumbo?
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