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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Adapter View Post
    That Regbubbles bloke has his blinkers on and any facts, pov's, or articles that you provide he'll dismiss and won't even bother to fucken read or consider it. He's lost cause and wasting time trying to influence a group of white middle aged horny men - and in a fucken sex forum the only VOICE that a bloke wants to hear is from an Asian lady saying 'daaarling....please turn over' .
    Seems like I was the only one providing links, facts, articles etc. I read lots of first person anecdotal shit though. "I lived in FNQ one of the most racist places in the world and aborigines should just go back to where they came from etc etc..."

    Gimme some links to facts I have ignored. Please.

    But yeah about the sex forum degenerates...

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    I don’t agree with you or how you misquoted me but no point banging on like pork chops about it.

    Me personally, if it wasn’t compulsory I probably wouldn’t vote, but because it is ill vote yes. Not sure why exactly.

    Just like if the federal election results were blinded no body would even know who won based on the effect of their daily lives. The people voting no wouldn’t have a clue if ended up going through.

    Good intentions, but bad execution… not that my opinion means much lol.

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    don't even know how to vote on this rubbish.
    will I be fined if I skip voting?
    that's all I want to know.
    if I do vote, I will say no, just out of protest to the idiots who cooked this shit up

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccerfan View Post
    Through my work and various sporting events, most of the welcome to country speeches have been some of the most inspiring I’ve heard. It’s a yes for me. I just hope they get the right people.
    I dislike "Welcome to country" speeches. I was born in Australia, so were my parents, so were my grand parents, so were my great grand parents. It's *my* country as much as anyone else who is alive today, Aboriginal or not. I don't like the idea that I need to be welcomed to my own country. Where else do I belong?

    On the referendum - it's a no from me. I think they should have created it via legislation first so we could have an idea how it would work, then put up a constitutional amendment to make it permanent. As it stands, it all looks like it will end-up being very un-democratic and exclusive, if the referendum get's up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HardCockInSyd View Post
    I dislike "Welcome to country" speeches. I was born in Australia, so were my parents, so were my grand parents, so were my great grand parents. It's *my* country as much as anyone else who is alive today, Aboriginal or not. I don't like the idea that I need to be welcomed to my own country. Where else do I belong?

    On the referendum - it's a no from me. I think they should have created it via legislation first so we could have an idea how it would work, then put up a constitutional amendment to make it permanent. As it stands, it all looks like it will end-up being very un-democratic and exclusive, if the referendum get's up.
    I think it’s more of a ceremonial thing and respect/recognising for people/communities who were here 65,000 years before your great grandparents, great great grandparents got off the boat from Great Britain.

    Technically you’re more British, than “Australian” when looking at lineage.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jamez11 View Post
    I don’t agree with you or how you misquoted me but no point banging on like pork chops about it.
    Why not... Kind of what Dutton and his goon show are continuing to do?

    Never bring an intellectual discussion to forum whose main purpose is the satisfaction of cock relief.

    Maybe everyone here should go to a REPUTABLE source of information instead of banging on about what you "reckon" will happen if we say yes to an ADVISORY body that the government will CONSULT with when dealing with legislation that DIRECTLY affects indigenous Australians.
    This body has NO POWER whatsoever and is not a third chamber in parliament.

    But that's just me.....


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    Quote Originally Posted by Assandlegs View Post
    Why not... Kind of what Dutton and his goon show are continuing to do?

    Never bring an intellectual discussion to forum whose main purpose is the satisfaction of cock relief.

    Maybe everyone here should go to a REPUTABLE source of information instead of banging on about what you "reckon" will happen if we say yes to an ADVISORY body that the government will CONSULT with when dealing with legislation that DIRECTLY affects indigenous Australians.
    This body has NO POWER whatsoever and is not a third chamber in parliament.

    But that's just me.....


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    I just checked the mail box and found a flyer on the yes vote, top 10 myths about the Voice to Parliament Debunked.
    And then on the reverse side it goes on to explain it self.
    They are really trying to push this agenda, and no matter what the majority of the votes are, i have a feeling it will be passed through as the government has spent millions of tax payers dollars on this campaign.
    It’s just going to be like the marriage equality vote of 2017 where a majority of the country voted against it but it still passed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hidden Python View Post
    I just checked the mail box and found a flyer on the yes vote, top 10 myths about the Voice to Parliament Debunked.
    And then on the reverse side it goes on to explain it self.
    They are really trying to push this agenda, and no matter what the majority of the votes are, i have a feeling it will be passed through as the government has spent millions of tax payers dollars on this campaign.
    It’s just going to be like the marriage equality vote of 2017 where a majority of the country voted against it but it still passed.
    Just make sure to wear your tin foil hat when voting and make sure your not connected to 5G and you’ll be sweet mate.

    Also destroy the flyer ASAP it could be bugged!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bdjc View Post
    don't even know how to vote on this rubbish.
    will I be fined if I skip voting?
    that's all I want to know.
    if I do vote, I will say no, just out of protest to the idiots who cooked this shit up
    Yes you will be fined if you don't vote without a legitimate excuse.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jamez11 View Post
    I think it’s more of a ceremonial thing and respect/recognising for people/communities who were here 65,000 years before your great grandparents, great great grandparents got off the boat from Great Britain.

    Technically you’re more British, than “Australian” when looking at lineage.
    It's an empty gesture, no point in continuing it without any real action. If we're really sorry for what we did, just give the country back and everyone leave the country. If we're not willing to do that, then just stfu about it.

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    Vote No.

    I did today, early voting is great, don't have to waste a precious Saturday standing in line.

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    Quote Originally Posted by faruk View Post
    Yes you will be fined if you don't vote without a legitimate excuse.



    It's an empty gesture, no point in continuing it without any real action. If we're really sorry for what we did, just give the country back and everyone leave the country. If we're not willing to do that, then just stfu about it.
    Observing traditional cultures, native ceremonies, dance or whatever is not an empty gesture imo, it’s actually done all over the world. I think if someone lacks their own culture, tradition, language, identity etc… it might be seen as an empty gesture, which is understandable.

    I’m assuming you see the Hakka as an empty gesture, plenty are facinated and humbled by it.

    When other people are celebrating these, you can always just put some headphones in and listen to Alan Jones, Andrew Bolt or just read or educate yourself even more (if that’s possible) by catching up on the latest AR’s on this forum then everyone can be happy.

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    Continue the discussions, very interesting

    Can I daydream for one minute

    I wish there could be discussion about important issues without once anyone mentioning the following words

    Right
    Left
    Far right
    Far left
    Fascist
    Labor
    Liberal
    Communist
    Socialist
    Albo
    Dutton
    White privilege, white middle aged or other variations
    Racist
    Dickhead
    Ignorant
    Tin foil hat (awful cliche from the US)
    (Feel free to pick out the other useless words used in this thread from both sides)

    It's really easy to dumb down discussions by using these words or a combination of them

    Watch any US news and get really bored with hearing these terms which are an excuse to avoid actually discussing the issue

    Healthy vibrant exchange of ideas stops once you use these words

    Instead, confirm someone's point of view, discuss that point of view, and you're done. Don't belittle people, it's fine for someone to have an opposing opinion

    Don't just justify your own opinion by exclaiming 'Albo is a dickhead' or any of the other combinations above

    Ignore the daydream
    Back to the discussion

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    An interesting perspective on what the Voice agenda is really about: https://rumble.com/v3n2eak-grandmoth...uised-as-.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by dt333 View Post
    An interesting perspective on what the Voice agenda is really about: https://rumble.com/v3n2eak-grandmoth...uised-as-.html
    Alex Jones?? The dude who also had the interesting perspective that school shootings in the US were a hoax and the families were all actors pretending their kids were killed? Then sold dodgy health supplements and other crap to his conspiracy theory loving audience and made millions?
    I would probably look for other sources of information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by frisson View Post
    Continue the discussions, very interesting

    Can I daydream for one minute

    I wish there could be discussion about important issues without once anyone mentioning the following words

    Right
    Left
    Far right
    Far left
    Fascist
    Labor
    Liberal
    Communist
    Socialist
    Albo
    Dutton
    White privilege, white middle aged or other variations
    Racist
    Dickhead
    Ignorant
    Tin foil hat (awful cliche from the US)
    (Feel free to pick out the other useless words used in this thread from both sides)

    It's really easy to dumb down discussions by using these words or a combination of them

    Watch any US news and get really bored with hearing these terms which are an excuse to avoid actually discussing the issue

    Healthy vibrant exchange of ideas stops once you use these words

    Instead, confirm someone's point of view, discuss that point of view, and you're done. Don't belittle people, it's fine for someone to have an opposing opinion

    Don't just justify your own opinion by exclaiming 'Albo is a dickhead' or any of the other combinations above

    Ignore the daydream
    Back to the discussion
    Lol it's the discussion police!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ReginaldBubbles View Post
    Alex Jones?? The dude who also had the interesting perspective that school shootings in the US were a hoax and the families were all actors pretending their kids were killed? Then sold dodgy health supplements and other crap to his conspiracy theory loving audience and made millions?
    I would probably look for other sources of information.
    But what exactly in the video do you disagree on though?
    Can't even have a civilised discussion if you're just going to smear people with the typical "conspiracy theorist" response. That's just a typical gaslighting tactic from a narcissist.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dt333 View Post
    But what exactly in the video do you disagree on though?
    Can't even have a civilised discussion if you're just going to smear people with the typical "conspiracy theorist" response. That's just a typical gaslighting tactic from a narcissist.
    I'm not going to watch an Alex Jones video because I know from watching previous ones that they are devoid of truth and I don't know why you would select him as a source of information. Shit it's not like I called you a gaslighting narcissist Frisson is gonna have to add a few words to his discussion ban list.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dt333 View Post
    An interesting perspective on what the Voice agenda is really about: https://rumble.com/v3n2eak-grandmoth...uised-as-.html
    Wow, that's an abysmal fucking argument. So the UN is utilizing the AEC as part of a global conspiracy to force citizens to conform to voting standards they don't agree with?

    I'll cut you a break, watch this video as a counter-argument. It's 37mins shorter and makes more sense - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SAqIypjk-5A

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    Quote Originally Posted by dt333 View Post
    But what exactly in the video do you disagree on though?
    Can't even have a civilised discussion if you're just going to smear people with the typical "conspiracy theorist" response. That's just a typical gaslighting tactic from a narcissist.
    Re: If someone votes at two different polling places within their electorate, and places their formal vote in the ballot box at each polling place, their vote is counted.

    It's a complete furphy, there in no way the AEC will allow this and it is committing electoral fraud. That's why we're always asked at the polling station if we had voted before in any election (or referendum).

    The AEC’s “Enrolment Fraud and Multiple Voting” document quotes the Referendum Act which states that a person is guilty of a criminal offence if they intentionally vote more than once in the same referendum. The penalty is 6 months imprisonment for each illegal vote.

    https://www.aec.gov.au/About_AEC/Pub...ple-voting.htm

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