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    It might be true that the architects wanted more powers (interestingly, this is why some indigenous people voted No saying it didn’t go far enough) but in its current state, is was meant as an advisory body, giving people a say on the issues that affect them. They had no powers, the government would not have been obliged to even take on board their recommendations. To say anything else, I think, is misleading. And that’s the whole issue of why this was a clusterfuck, with both sides bearing responsibility.

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    The people have spoken, the NOs have it and it's time for everyone to come together and have a different path to closing the Gap.

    As expected Dutton is walking away from holding another referendum.

    Lets see what he, Price & Mundine have as an alternative proposal.

    Parliament should be interesting this week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Soccerfan View Post
    It might be true that the architects wanted more powers (interestingly, this is why some indigenous people voted No saying it didn’t go far enough) but in its current state, is was meant as an advisory body, giving people a say on the issues that affect them. They had no powers, the government would not have been obliged to even take on board their recommendations. To say anything else, I think, is misleading. And that’s the whole issue of why this was a clusterfuck, with both sides bearing responsibility.
    You have to ask yourself if the government is not obliged to take on their recommendations then what is the point?

    Linda Burney is a cabinet minister and is part of the executive, wtf has she done to improve the lives of her people?

    I’d bet my bottom dollar that the yes camp have her number, why isn’t she proposing their recommendations to the cabinet?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meng View Post
    Putting each person's opinions aside. Let's look at some stats on the demographic that voted yes or no. Check this report out:

    https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-...-map/102978520

    Here's some stats:
    - Rural people are more likely to vote no vs city people who would vote yes
    - The less educated a person is they're more likely to vote no
    - older people tended to vote no vs younger who preferred to vote yes.
    - higher income also tended to vote no (most likely cause they thought the whole paying rent thing would take their land away lol).

    Again don't really give a shit even though I did vote.
    Same here, no point wasting anymore energy on this.
    Australia has a track record of only 8/45 successful referendums in all its history. Not a single referendum has been successful in the last 47 years, 0/9 success rate.

    It's ironic when you consider those stats with all the complaints that this was a waste of money. What about all those 36 other times? If you don't want to waste the money, then stop keeping voting NO, lol...

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    For fucks sake! Get over it and move on. The referendum is over and all the states have unanimously voted NO. Albo had one fucken job to do, get people to write YES on a piece of paper! and the cunt couldn't even get that right !

    Right now all the highly paid politicians, experts, thinkers, elites, lobby groups etc must find a solution on how to close the indigenous gap and it's that fucken simple!......and as punters you guys should stop carrying on like pork chops and start focusing on the thigh gaps.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Double_Adapter View Post
    For fucks sake! Get over it and move on. The referendum is over and all the states have unanimously voted NO. Albo had one fucken job to do, get people to write YES on a piece of paper! and the cunt couldn't even get that right !

    Right now all the highly paid politicians, experts, thinkers, elites, lobby groups etc must find a solution on how to close the indigenous gap and it's that fucken simple!......and as punters you guys should stop carrying on like pork chops and start focusing on the thigh gaps.
    Are you calling ever PM we've had in the last 47 years a cunt too?

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    Anyone who's on $600k pa + additional perks+allowances+housing+security+super+pension etc etc that can't do a simple job right then yes, they should be called a cunt. As for other PMs that have served and come & gone they're not leading the country right now, so they are not under scrutiny.

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    The result of this was that people don't want the constitution to be changed. That's it. It's not due to racism or anything else. People like and want the status quo as far as the constitution goes.

    Imp enough funding and efforts are already dedicated to helping Indigenous people. Maybe it's time they help themselves as well.

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    An absolute referendum clusterf-ck with $450 million wasted - could have funded 450 Special Needs teachers for a full decade - cannot be accepted without comment, and the comments and analysis keep rolling in

    Here is my comment to bring the sides together:

    "The PM is very competent and listens and responds to colleagues when he is told his plans are not working.
    He is definitely not out of touch with the Australian population.

    As a new PM he was confident that everyone was there to support him. He is man of the working class, and the working class in Western Sydney will vote Yes with him, because he is correct about the Vibe

    He didn't read the Uluru statement he was promoting for good reasons and that's how he does things. Lots of real world experience with direct jobs in industry and science. Everything he touches works out brilliantly. True statesman who will leave his mark on the world"

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    $200m only. $250m will be paid for by the 3,847,000+ registered voters that didn't vote.

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    Funny how Dutton waited until this referendum campaign to tell us how broken the system is (and has been for years) and how we need an audit into spending on indigenous affairs. He had 9 years as a front bencher in the party in power from 2013-2022 and never attempted to clean the system up then. Do people actually believe anything he says?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GoldfishMan View Post
    $200m only. $250m will be paid for by the 3,847,000+ registered voters that didn't vote.
    It’s annoying how much was spent but compare it to the hundreds of billions lost by the Liberals through wrongful Jobkeeper payments that were never recovered and Robodebt and suddenly 450mil is just a bit of loose change

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    Fuck the referendum discussion.

    Fuck girls instead!

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    Yes, Now when I punt, "ill start with a welcome to cuntrey"

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    The yes side kept calling the no side racist and rude names
    The no side didn't

    The yes side ran a campaign like hillary clinton vs trump
    They used celebrities

    But celebrities live in a world full of caviar

    Where most people just live in a world where they want to not cum in 10 seconds

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    Quote Originally Posted by pornonporn View Post
    The yes side kept calling the no side racist and rude names
    The no side didn't

    The yes side ran a campaign like hillary clinton vs trump
    They used celebrities

    But celebrities live in a world full of caviar

    Where most people just live in a world where they want to not cum in 10 seconds
    Pornonporn ! What?

    You weren't influenced by the use of the celebrity Shaquille O'Neal by the Yes campaign ? Really?

    The Yes campaign was not out of touch at all

    Shaquille wanted you to vote Yes because he is from the USA, and he knows about Australia

    https://www.9news.com.au/national/an...3-b1b2c65dfb26

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    Quote Originally Posted by pornonporn View Post
    The yes side kept calling the no side racist and rude names
    The no side didn't

    The yes side ran a campaign like hillary clinton vs trump
    They used celebrities

    But celebrities live in a world full of caviar

    Where most people just live in a world where they want to not cum in 10 seconds
    Just fear and doubt and lies.

    https://www.smh.com.au/politics/fede...10-p5e3fu.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Meng View Post
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    - The less educated a person is they're more likely to vote no
    Well that's amazing

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    Quote Originally Posted by dotcumdotinyou View Post
    Ask Reggie why the true believers voted no and his reply would be "they all read Murdoch's papers". So Reggie's argument is that all labour voters are gullible, but the truth is they voted no because they weren't given all the information.
    Dude at least argue against the things I've actually said, don't make it up cumdot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thefatness View Post
    a trojan horse to introduce treaty and force the government of the day to consider it
    Oh no, not considering something!

    Quote Originally Posted by thefatness View Post
    My evidence is there
    Where?

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