No, the fact that they make me go all the way out to vote, that's a big "no" from me, I could've used the time for a punt instead...
The Nos are winning because a lot of people do not understand what it truly means and they think voting No is the safest answer.
No, the fact that they make me go all the way out to vote, that's a big "no" from me, I could've used the time for a punt instead...
I bet Langton would choke on here avocado on toast reading this forum
Was hoping not to discuss this lady, but since you brought her up
These are her words
"Every time the No cases raise their arguments, if you start pulling it apart you get down to base racism, I'm sorry to say that's where it lands, or sheer stupidity"
She and Ray Martin did nothing to persuade undecided people to their viewpoint. Fact
Name calling really has no place in a civilized discussion
Australians hate being told what to think or what to vote, and particularly if you call people names
This lady is clearly surrounds herself with like minded people. She doesn't yet understand that her opinion is just one opinion among 23 million people. Well she will learn shortly that the population as a whole were not happy to sign up to a contract with the fine print hidden
https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-09-...ents/102848644
Sorry A&L but there will still be a decent future for all if the no vote gets up, its not as if they're going to reduce spending in the aboriginal affairs portfolio after Saturday.
And I hope Albo and his cronies get what they deserve for not giving us all the information and having a full and frank debate before going to a vote.
Its great living in a democracy isn't it? a yes vote may seem logical to you just as a no vote seems logical to me, what a great country we live in.
My level of sarcasm depends on your level of stupidity.
He has a point, bro. Any country will prosper if all of her people prosper. If there is an entire race living in it, that calls themselves her citizens, that are non-productive to society, then it simply creates a negative drag on the country as a whole.
Throw out everything and look at it purely from an economic POV, that's the unavoidable truth that you will be left with.
Imagine an Australia where no extra spending is needed on Aboriginals. How much do we spend now? That's how much we stand to gain if we can beat this bogeyman, get that race up to speed and be productive like everyone else. Then we will all prosper.
I'm sorry GFM but that seems racist to me. Your saying that aboriginals are an anchor on the economy and we'd all be better off if they smartened up?
I'm voting no because it hasn't been debated properly and the information from the yes side hasn't changed my suspicions of what it will mean for the constitution in the future, not because I want "that race up to speed and be productive like everyone else".
My level of sarcasm depends on your level of stupidity.
That's why I said you have to throw out everything and look at it purely from an economic point of view. If you want to debate about $$$ that's what you have to do.
Go ahead and sprinkle some salt and pepper on my argument, call me a racist. It doesn't take away from the fact that to vote No is to vote for the status quo, to continue paying all this $$$, on every budget every year, just to kick the can further along. Until what... A better idea comes up? Good luck with that.
It's not going to get up. It is behind in all mainland states and well behind in Qld and WA. Tassie has got a slim lead for yes. I think I saw oz wide only 8% are undecided.
If it is such a great idea, though none of that optimism is evidence based, I'm not sure why Albanese - if he so truly believes it is such a miracle idea - is petulantly thowing his baby out with the bathwater if (when) we don't vote yes for it in this form.
Very good discussion on Q&A re the Voice Referendum tonight
https://iview.abc.net.au/video/NC2304H032S00
I think it's been debated pretty thoroughly but it's hard to argue against a scare campaign full of lies and misinformation. And for those who say it's the yes campaign that's negative, "no" is literally negative. What are those suspicions about the constitution in the future? I'm perplexed. Some think all the constitutional experts who say it's fine are just worried about being cancelled or something but that makes no sense.
Went along and voted today and both sides of the fence were standing outside with their placards, representing - sensed a bit of edginess in the air. Got asked ‘ Do you need any help?’ and a leaflet thrust towards me.
I responded ‘No thanks, I got all my info from a sex forum.’
Got let through and nobody uttered another word!
If you get your info from this forum, then you have read recent posts about being confident when speaking to women
Were there any appealing ladies to discuss the referendum with?
The polls already clearly predict what the result will be, but a little conversation is a healthy thing
Some of the constitution changes have been realise and if they win they are going to abolish South Australia into regions then it looks other states will follow and if you own home the yes people can take the land the land underneath it off you Under treaty law so if you vote yes don't complain later when your house is worth near zero because it's the land that's the real wealth
Tick yes, Burnem Burnem says. Yet you need to write yes or no.
How can you even begin to compare the two? The haka was a war dance, now used to display pride/strength. The acknowledgement of country is an admission that what the British did to the Aborigines here hundreds of years ago was wrong. If it's so wrong, then give the land back. You don't want to? Then stop apologising for it because that's what makes it empty.