QUESTION:
IN 2024, WHO HAS THE MOST SAY IN THE MARKET PRICES FOR PUNTING IN MASSAGE SHOPS AND BROTHELS ?
THE SHOP MANAGERS
OR
THE PUNTING PUBLIC?
For example
A brothel has charged you $350 for Diamond Service and you are told the WL may CIM
The WL is nice but in the room, asks you for an extra $50 cash for CIM
Do you accept this, or do you complain that the extra costs are getting out of hand, with no change in a discretionary service?
Or more cleverly, do you check with the manager before you walk in every door of every punt, so you can be clear if this shop truly has your back, or just your wallet ?
This is discretionary income
Unlike getting a haircut or paying tolls, you don't need this service to survive. They definitely need your patronage
Just now I got a text on my burner phone from a nice but quiet shop. They need your business
If other recreational venues increase beer prices or entry fees any further, if cinemas double ticket prices, if clothes shops raise prices by just $20 per item, their staff will be lining up at Centrelink within 2 years
The one question is if the prices for WLs / MLs rise in 2024 at what price do you say no its too expensive? If further wars break out and there is a high chance of that prices of everything will sky rocket. The shop owners would be the ones who would have the most say assuming they are in charge of the managers. There's always a king pin in charge higher up as well than managers / shop owners.
When do we say - "unfortunately I can no longer afford to go every week, rather I can only afford to go three times in a month", basically implementing a change to the punting routine that you have become accustomed to in recent years? This is what will hurt the shops the most. One would be surprised at actually how much they rely on regulars walking through the door.
In answer to the question - it's the punting public that ultimately dictate the prices, not the shops, not the managers, and not the service providers.
Talking with a manager today. The shops have been quieter than usual during the Xmas/New Year period. There's not as much disposable income around. It's just the reality for the coming year.
normal for this time BUT it is very dependant on their position.Originally Posted by keebab
One thing which is very noticeable is position relative to public transport (particularly rail - both heavy and light).
Many are becoming very wary of the drop in their purchasing power. I could imagine myself working in my pre-COVID job up until today and I might have to cut my punting down to once or twice a month in massage shops, pay 30mins + 1 pineapple for HJ only because my old workplaces have either stagnated in their wages or have increased wages but with the catch of reduced working hours.
Its going to be a tough year for everyone, while interest rates probably won't rise they certainly won't be going down for a while yet and un employment is on the rise as well. The building industry is still in serious trouble with so many firms going bankrupt and that ripples down through the service industries.
The only reason house prices are rising again to pre covid levels is that the Chinese housing market has crashed and those Chinese investors are coming here to buy up all our houses at absurd prices. Coupled with the problem that our banks have so much exposure on their books that they can't afford mass foreclosures so they're "assisting" people to re arrange their finances.
There's not going to be a lot of spare cash around in 2024.
My level of sarcasm depends on your level of stupidity.
I reckon the demand elasticity of punting is affected by macroeconomic factors more than the price of punting, up to a certain point. It's very similar to medical products. If there was no alternative to a medicine, a company could just keep jacking up the price and people would still buy it because there's no substitute for it. Up to a price level that it literally costs an arm and a leg, then they might start to see the effect of price impact on the sales volume.
Based on this, I reckon prices will keep escalating through 2024. We may see FS extras at RNTs go up to $200, and FS shops might start charging $300 /hr as a minimum. We need this medicine for our sex addictions.
Bro you may be right.
Punters may not all read syd99, BUT
EVERY PUNTER THAT READS FORUMS AND UNDERSTANDS THE MARKETPLACE, NEEDS TO SHIFT ONLY TO SHOPS THAT HAVE YOUR BACK
GREEDY SHOPS WILL GO QUIETER, THERE IS NO DOUBT ABOUT THAT. LET THEM STEW IN THE PROBLEM THAT THEY CREATED
I went from 3 times a week down to 2 times a week and now I'm down to once every 3 weeks and I have to force myself to go because I have virtually lost all my interest in punting.
With all the interest rate rises and with the cost of living going up ,this form of entertainment has really taken a back seat for me .
Agree mate.
Punting may take a back seat as you say, and stop, for many many men, if shops try increasing prices further in 2024. More likely people will avoid high prices shops entirely. There are simply too many options in Sydney
Like many, I'm finding life getting quite challenging. Love a punt and always support VFM punting
Let's continue calling out the price gouging if and when it occurs
I've been fishing over the Christmas/New Year holidays.
No one charges me $200 an hour for fishing.
Punting is the most expensive pastime a man can fall into. Satisfaction is no guaranteed and we are at the mercy of MLs in the rooms.
In my case, my 2023 consisted of a 6 month spell where I completely did not punt, followed by a 3 month spree averaging 3 punts a week, and then 3 more months of no punting.
That first 6 months was an eye opener for me. I started trying to make cuts in my living expenses and realised just how disproportionately expensive this hobby was. For example, I calculated how much I would save in a year by cancelling my Netflix sub, only to find that I could blow the entire amount in a single punt. I put 1 whole year of entertainment for me and my family, vs the 1 punt. It’s a no brainer!
Almost everything I cut in my expenses paled in comparison to punting. Not even close to it.
I’m in a better position than some because my wife is still sexy and is usually horny for sex with me, but if you don’t have a partner to get your sex from, I can see it’s going to be a bit of struggle for you. Just keep in mind how much money you pay for this shit compared to everything else. That might help you see through the fog.
It took you a year to work out netflix is cheaper than a punt.
Explains everything
I'd rather spend the money being out under the sun in nature than for a movie subscription that gets boring unless they release new titles. There's many adventures to look out for that doesn't break the bank plus it is better for your health.
Wow, how incredibly stupid you are. Like legendary stupidity. It took me a year to calculate how much I’d save from cancelling Netflix?
Before you post a reply in anger, wait a few minutes and let those gears work out where you went wrong.
To summarise a point I made in the other thread, the saddest thing of all is that the general culture of the adult services industry has changed.
There was a time when RnT was a 'specialised art form', and we had shops who were strictly RnT with a no extras policy, who managed to recruit the best of the best and ensure they were properly trained. Even if there was a 'premium price', as the punter you knew what you were getting and there was no pressure from either side to hustle for extras.
Unfortunately, the 'hustler culture' is now embedded and here to stay. As punters, the only way for us to combat that is to dictate and stick to a standard pricing model on extras... and not over-pay.
While there are still some shops training their staff, and making changes to continue evolving and improving their business, these are now few and far between.
Some shops over the last couple of years have installed ATMs on premises... let me ask the community this, is this a 'value add' point of improvement for these specific shops, or a 'red flag'?
This might sound a bit sad, but I invested in getting a VR Headset and subscribed to sexlikereal via DEOVR player. It's way cheaper than punting,it's been working and it gets rid of my urges.
Definitely a red flag. See, the shop is making money from ATM withdrawal fees as these ATMs are not owned by the banks. Then they receive payment in cash - they're definitely not going to record those transactions in the books.
If you really want to support these businesses (and withdraw cash from their in-house ATM rather than at the bank with zero fees) you need to make sure either the shop recruits honest girls or there is a girl there that you can trust with all your needs and you don't mind becoming her regular. Whenever these shops have to cancel my regular and offers me another girl, I often say no thanks because I know the experience will be totally different if not disappointing.
This has always been my point too. We are the customer, we do need to set prices and avoid high charging shops
Of course, there are some here on the forum who are home or yacht owners, aged their 40s or higher, who have MUCH higher discretionary incomes - they pay neither rent nor mortgage! It wouldn't matter to these lucky wealthy men, if full service ends up at $600/hour at a brothel
If you pay a rent or mortgage and punting is harder now to afford, you will understand the issue
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