Sunny - feeling ripped off

[Jack-Jack]

Speak to GINZA management and request the service list be amended

yea agree did u tell reception - they havve recently been very active to getting feedback for sessions across both shops

LOL I once rocked myself when the girl was so so and i strugggled to finish and to top it off she didnt give CIM then i later realised she doesnt do CIM and it was clearly not in her description i just expected it given her price for C Girl lol

I don't know why guys like CIM, you guys probably watch too much porno.

Many girls don't like CIM, especially taking from 100s of different guys. If she doesn't want it then just move on.

Agree with xboyx 100% here - seen my fair share of J girls last few months and whilst most if not all havve CIM in proffile some dont do.

I always ask first either start of the session or when i'm about to blow do u do CIM usually they nod and go yes but can see they dont want it and sometimes they nod and go yes ofc these are the pse or super gfe girls and some will evven say it upfront liek with Mari she said ciM then fuck

if girl say no i just nod and movve on and let reception know ultimately its up to the girls to say yes or no and likeothers have said could just be bad day or she is still new and doesnt know the rules. Alot of these girls come via aggent and they dont know what is in their profile so i tend to cut them some slack same with som only doing lfk and not dfk it could just be there are new and not used to job or dont know its part of diamond cos the agent did the descritpion thats why giving feedback to reception so important

Agreed that if girls doesn't do CIM then don't push it. This is a matter of expectation though as the description states otherwise. There's bunch of potential factor, WL having a bad day, expectation between the shop and the girl not aligned. I think there a bunch of girls in Ginza that doesn't do CIM and it's reflected in their profile either implicitly or explicitly.

yea agree - CIM is not a must for me unless shes amazing in bbbj then i want cim as its kinda mood killer during bbj to pull out cos no CIM

if its super important then either ask reception before hand to confirm she do CIM or ask girl at the start before u even strip down.

[Jack-Jack]

This is actually what I'll do ask girls this is what I want to do , IF WL can't do just walk out make my like easier.

^^ that

just talk to management about it, normally they've been asking how the girls have been lately.

yea agree

[holi_day]

I am not sure why there is so much sarcasm over OP pursued such a common service that is advertised on the WL's profile. What's wrong with someone likes CIM? I am not into CIM but I know many men like it. If you don't like CIM you can just skip it but why judge the others? As far as I am concerned, OP is entitled to the service he paid for.

I am not sure either why should a customer confirm if the WL performs a particular service upfront when the service is advertised. If she can't do it the reception should remove it or advise customer before accepting the payment.

[perfect23]

Maybe the only way to avoid this “ ripped off ” is to ask the girl before the session starts, then walk out. Some girls might decide not to do it to some customers after first impression.

You shouldn't have to ask the girl if its listed in her included services. If she does it only for select customers (which is her every right), her profile page should say so accordingly. I'm not sure what the discussion between her and ginza management was, so i will reserve judgement. But its not the customers fault that he expected a service which was advertised, and then denied to him. He has every right to feel ripped off.

[perfect23]

Well said, my thoughts exactly.

[perfect23]

I am not sure why there is so much sarcasm over OP pursued such a common service that is advertised on the WL's profile. What's wrong with someone likes CIM? I am not into CIM but I know many men like it. If you don't like CIM you can just skip it but why judge the others? To my concern, OP is entitled to the service he paid for.

I am not sure either why should a customer confirm if the WL performs a particular service upfront when the service is advertised. If she can't do it the reception should remove it or advise customer before accepting the payment.

Well said. My thoughts exactly.

[Farkersfolly]

Could be she noticed that your hygiene wasn't up to scratch
Uncircumised lads need to be hyper vigilant with cleanliness

[wilisno]

You shouldn't have to ask the girl if its listed in her included services. If she does it only for select customers (which is her every right), her profile page should say so accordingly. I'm not sure what the discussion between her and ginza management was, so i will reserve judgement. But its not the customers fault that he expected a service which was advertised, and then denied to him. He has every right to feel ripped off.

It’s simple, to do that is to avoid the frustration of feeling ripped off ! Of course you have the right to feel ripped off, and continue to feel ripped off for many times to come. For me, I go punting for enjoyment, it’s the end of a session, I’d rather leave happily than feeling upset.

Of course you have every right to feel ripped off.

[perfect23]

It’s simple, to do that is to avoid the frustration of feeling ripped off ! Of course you have the right to feel ripped off, and continue to feel ripped off for many times to come. For me, I go punting for enjoyment, it’s the end of a session, I’d rather leave happily than feeling upset.

Of course you have every right to feel ripped off.

Or ginza could update her profile page to remove "cim included" and not engage in false advertising. To prevent any future punters having a similar experience. Its not the fault of the punter to assume services listed will be received.

Everyone wants to leave a session happy. Thats besides the point.

[wilisno]

Or ginza could update her profile page to remove "cim included" and not engage in false advertising. To prevent any future punters having a similar experience. Its not the fault of the punter to assume services listed will be received.

Everyone wants to leave a session happy. Thats besides the point.

Whether Ginza would remove that service on the website or not is not my problem. As I said, if you want to get upset because of that, you have every right to continue getting upset for many times to come in punting, it happens everywhere.

To leave happy for a punt is my point, if it’s not yours, so be it, you have every right to leave grumpy after every punt.

[perfect23]

Whether Ginza would remove that service on the website or not is not my problem. As I said, if you want to get upset because of that, you have every right to continue getting upset for many times to come in punting, it happens everywhere.

To leave happy for a punt is my point, if it’s not yours, so be it, you have every right to leave grumpy after every punt.

I didn't say its your problem. Strawman fallacy.

I just said everyone wants to leave a punt happy. Tu quoque fallacy.

[Costy]

As soon as you walk in the door… CAN I COME IN YOUR MOUTH? 🤣

[wilisno]

I didn't say its your problem. Strawman fallacy.

I just said everyone wants to leave a punt happy. Tu quoque fallacy.

Still grumpy !

[perfect23]

As soon as you walk in the door… CAN I COME IN YOUR MOUTH? 🤣

Hahaha! Thats probably what wilisno does. But hey, at least he walks out happy.

[perfect23]

Still grumpy !

Still wrong. Smiley smiley smiley.

[wilisno]

Hahaha! Thats probably what wilisno does. But hey, at least he walks out happy.

Not really, I never had to ask, and I’m not looking for CIM anyway. From your arguments, you didn’t nor prepared to walk out happy either.

[perfect23]

Not really, I never had to ask, and I’m not looking for CIM anyway. From your arguments, you didn’t nor prepared to walk out happy either.

It's a joke. Relax mate.

[wilisno]

As soon as you walk in the door… CAN I COME IN YOUR MOUTH? ��

That’s what you should do if you’re desperate for CIM, just use some more civilised wordings, like “ can you do CIM ? That’s what I want.”

[GINZA]

Hey bro. I send u pm this morning. Still waiting for your reply.
Just some simple questions: did you tell receptionist about she refuse cim? did receptionist ask you feedback when you finish?

I spoke to Sunny this morning about cim and she insisted she never refused to do cim to customers.
And I double checked all feedbacks from yesterday all shows She offered cim and never refused cim to any other customers. Our receptionist try to ask every single customers feedback especially booking customers .
I just can’t find your story feedback. I just want to fix it for u. Plz if any bad experience in ginza you can tell receptionist we can fix for you onsite too. Plz let me know! Or msg to ginza mobile.

It’s her first day I can feel she is nervous maybe she not that good yet like other girls in ginza but first day give her a bit time manager will teach her more she said she will doing her best to make all customers happy in future . Maybe she is not too familiar about all service but She never refuse do cim. she is learning to do her best

If u are the one who finish at 8pm. You gave good score for her and looks happy when receiptionist ask your feedbacks. Please PM me back or post here as your feedback is very important for us. Thank you hope we can hear from you very soon

To perfect123 bro. No need to remove anything in her profile as 99% customers confirmed she do cim. Jazybro1982 is the 1%

[personaa]

I felt ripped off when I bought a bottle of milk last week, the expiry date was 23rd but the milk was already off by 21st. I wrote to the ACCC consumer affairs. They didn't bother to reply but Ginza is doing it better than a government agency