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    Barry O'Farrell gets tough with NSW brothels - Article from Crikey

    by CHRIS SEAGE Tax consultant and former ATO audit manager


    Sydney will no longer be the Amsterdam of the South Pacific after Barry O’Farrell sent a clear message to the NSW s-x industry that major reform is on the way.

    In the darkness of night, the government late last week placed on its website three options it is considering in transforming the industry from an unregulated rabble -- where the illegal industry is four times the size of the legal one -- to best practice in Australia. It has provided interested stakeholders just two weeks to respond to the extensive issues paper.

    In presenting the three options, the government said the objectives of the proposed regulatory system are the protection of residential amenity, protection of s-x workers and safeguarding public health. The reform will not just apply to brothels but any s-x services premises that are defined as premises where s-x work occurs habitually, which means strip clubs, street workers and escort agencies will also be under the spotlight. The issues paper identified the options as:

    Option 1: improve the current regulatory system, including improving decision-making in planning for s-x services premises and improving the sharing of information between NSW regulators. This option might equally be relevant for adoption as part of registration and licensing options.

    Option 2: introduce a registration system for owners and operators of commercial s-x services premises. The register could be maintained by a community-based peer outreach body or by a government agency.

    Option 3: introduce a licensing system for owners and operators of commercial s-x services premises. The licensing authority, in determining suitability for a licence, would consider: whether the applicant is a fit and proper person; whether it is in the public interest for the licence to be granted; and whether appropriate arrangements have been made to ensure the health, safety, and welfare of s-x workers and clients.

    Crikey understands the government prefers option three. Indeed, three weeks ago News Ltd ran a story referring to a new Brothel Licensing Authority, taking the regulation away from local councils and a strict vetting process for brothel owners along with quotes from Special Minister for State Chris Hartcher, who has ministerial responsibility for the reforms.

    The new reforms mirror what I proposed in Crikey three years ago about how I would reform the industry, including the establishment of a brothel licencing authority, probity checks for owners and taking the regulation away from councils. I have told Crikey readers for years that councils were not up to the task of regulating the underbelly of the shonks involved in the industry and it looks like a whole new enforcement arm will be attached to the new authority.

    I am pleased to see that safeguarding public health is at the forefront of the new reforms. In January I released my Dens of Decadence report into the prevalence of grubby pr-stitutes supplying oral s-x without a condom. In 2009 I reported that 264 pr-stitutes were advertising this service. Three years later in January I reported the number had increased to 507 and due to the lack of regulation this service continues to rise.

    The Kirby Institute from the University of NSW released a few months ago its controversial report into the s-x industry in NSW where it recommended to the government that a licencing regulatory system would not work, compelling councils to approve brothel applications particularly where street walkers ply their trade and the most controversial -- allowing up to four pr-stitutes to work from a residential address. This is a disgraceful recommendation that will open the doors for brothels to be located in residential streets and near schools and churches.

    The other area where this report is deficient is it has not included any reference to my research relating to the 507 prostitutes defying WorkCover and NSW Health guidelines by providing oral s-x without a condom to clients. I provided the co-author of the report professor Basil Donovan with an executive summary and links to every one of the prostitutes’ explicit advertising. People can only speculate why?
    One does not know whether to laugh or cry.

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    It's not the end of the world. The sky isn't falling. This is a beat-up by Crikey. It is true that there will be reform, but it won't close brothels down and it won't jack prices up. Read the last paragraph again. The author is simply upset because everyone has ignored his "research".

    The other area where this report is deficient is it has not included any reference to my research relating to the 507 prostitutes defying WorkCover and NSW Health guidelines ...
    Funny! I post the findings of my research on this forum all the time. Apparently no one seems to be ignoring me !!!

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    No mention of massage shops coming under this umbrella.

    Should massage with R&T ending constitute a sexual service, esp in the habitual range, if no actual "sex" (as in intercourse) takes place.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTiger View Post
    It's not the end of the world. The sky isn't falling. This is a beat-up by Crikey. It is true that there will be reform, but it won't close brothels down and it won't jack prices up. Read the last paragraph again. The author is simply upset because everyone has ignored his "research".



    Funny! I post the findings of my research on this forum all the time. Apparently no one seems to be ignoring me !!!
    very good point

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    reading this article makes me horny!

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    You should actually be worried long term if you don't like to pay. Want ot be Des Hasler and go undercover.

    If you deep into this - now I have because I can and do. But put simply the biggest worry is long term.

    For you and me as punters. WE must understand the people agaisnt us, ARE FUNDING the current governement.
    I am talking the Church groups - the Conservative hippies who think there Husbands are just good hard workers - who have never cheated on them with a High Class escort aged in her 20's.

    Now we all know local councils are corrupt - but wasn't Kings cross better when Corrupt cops ran it.

    Long term you will see many many of our favourtie places shut down. The price will go up for punters wanting certain services.
    Yes - you will get BBBJ - but you will pay. Because owners will have to make sure your NOT a spy.So like you might have to become a good regular. Before your allowed to get such a service.
    If your asian or not but think about how you might be considered a spy for the governemnt because they want to catch out good places providing the service you get now and it's including in the one price.

    They will make it more expensive for them to Run a brothel and places where they will be allowed to open up.

    Massage shops well yes they are possibly already breaking the Law. But they will make it cost them the SAME. So it won't be cheat to open up either and before you know it, the scale of pricing will go up.

    You will get more underground illigal setups. So much so - they if you get done by one - I bet they will make the punter pay. with either a trip to court or a fine or photo on the front of the daily telegraph.

    The Do nothing premier is doing nothing but letting his stooge funders get what they want.
    One of those thing to think about too is PRIME REAL ESTATE.

    Your Main game and bike owned places and Kings cross strip clubs won't have too much issue but it too will send some of it underground.

    Yes we might have few too many unsafe practices but it's NOT NEW. it's always been the WL choice, The Real is who is pushing it and why. It's not been in the head lines - like the HOONS and stuff?

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    Probably due to the issues of human trafficing

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    I dont know how long it will take but if regulation turns the punting scene into something similar to Victoria, then its not good for most posters on this site. Melbourne punting is so bad I dont do it , because I refuse to go there anymore... A bit of respect for Chris the reporter... 507 punts for research and I dont think he likes punting, TOFTT has had the bar raised.

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    Read between the lines. This is re-regulation of the sex industry from a Government that believes in small government and de-regulation. It is a way for the Christian majority in the Government to restrict the sex industy.

    It is a formula to drive sex work underground and produce a much larger unsafe, un-regulated illegal industry, Safe for workers? Safe for operators? Safe for punters?

    And a note on massage: any massage that performs HJ or B2B under a massage license is already an illegal premise. That puts 99% of massage shops in the illegal brothel category. You can imagine the number of retail shops coming on the market, the number of overseas students having to go home through lack of funds, and the increase in private workers working secretly below the radar as a result of licensing.

    Does not bode well for Sydney.

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    I was talking about this in the pub last night. One of my mates is about 20 years older than me. He said that in 1988 (he remembers that year because of the world expo, old fart) punting was much cheaper. Asians were $50 for 30 minutes and $90 per hour. Tiffany's was $90 per half hour and $150 per hour ... according to him.

    I've just used the RBA Inflation Calculator to see what the figures should be today: Asians $100 for half hour, $180 per hour, and Tiffany's $180 per half hour and $300 per hour.

    These seem to be close to what we actually pay today.

    Lets see how it pans out over the next few years.

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    I feel sorry for caucasian brothers, this will hit them the most. There will always be cheap underground of asians servicing other asians for all kinds of services, girls will do anything to make a buck with the right customer.

    I noticed already that girls told me they are getting scared to work at certain massage shops because they don't want to deal with immigration or council raids that could give them black mark on their visa record.

    After reports for massage shops all dried up now on all sites too, punters are getting wiser. I would share my latest exploits but I can't cos unfortunately the law enforcement are on these public forums as well.

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    This is just BS, all they are doing is changing over the regulatory power back to the NSW state Govt like it used to be, do you think it was better 15-20 years ago under state Govt, if anything it will be more corrupt..

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheTiger View Post
    I was talking about this in the pub last night. One of my mates is about 20 years older than me. He said that in 1988 (he remembers that year because of the world expo, old fart) punting was much cheaper. Asians were $50 for 30 minutes and $90 per hour. Tiffany's was $90 per half hour and $150 per hour ... according to him.

    I've just used the RBA Inflation Calculator to see what the figures should be today: Asians $100 for half hour, $180 per hour, and Tiffany's $180 per half hour and $300 per hour.

    These seem to be close to what we actually pay today.

    Lets see how it pans out over the next few years.
    well I remember when Tif's was $230 and hour and Stillettos was $260 or $280.

    But I think even back in 1988 it was still illigal and Canterbury road was working strip from Campsie to bankstown. but mostly then it was Belmore - St Geroge hotel too Haldon street Lakemba. Ah gee good old days - Shows my age

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    Fuck man, you're old.........

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