Hong Kong pro-democracy protests paralysed the city !

[AHLUNGOR]

How did it all go so wrong ??

[weedinator]

I should not stick my nose in this .... but I still need 50 posts.

Pressure from china to stop the protests ?

[mak695]

Looks like another group of students not having anything else to do but cause trouble. Seems theres nothing to do at uni these days but protest.

[AHLUNGOR]

I should not stick my nose in this .... but I still need 50 posts.

Pressure from china to stop the protests ?

Thanks for your reply brother weedinator,

This whole thing started as a peaceful protest: Occupying Central

What the Hong Kong people want is the right to select their own candidates for the first general election in 2017 - rather than just voting for the selected candidates vetted by the Chinese Government !!

[harmsup_jai]

I think this protest is needed as Last few times I've been to Hong Kong the overall societ and feel of Hong Kong has gone down hill.

Beijing is obviously just bending rules and laws to benefit the PRC people.

[weedinator]

Don't get me wrong mate, I am pro honkies.

Thanks for your reply brother weedinator,

This whole thing started as a peaceful protest: Occupying Central

What the Hong Kong people want is the right to select their own candidates for the first general election in 2017 - rather than just voting for the selected candidates vetted by the Chinese Government !!

[dohdoe]

Can't blame them. There's a lot of mainland chinese resentment going around in asia.

This seems like its just the start.

[CunningLinguist]

Alot of HKers bought property in places like Australia so they can get out if things turn to shit ...

[AHLUNGOR]

because the students are being idiots, expecting instant democracy....

HK, under british rule, was NEVER a democracy.... They have, under Basic Law been given a glidepath towards democracy...

I'm here in HK now, and it's all quitened down now...

I understand there are fears on both sides, but it was stupid of the students to try and break into government property and not to be met with force to evict them.... THAT's actually how it started........

International media is being selective with the truth of what they are reporting. I've seen a lot of whats really happening..... a bit diferent

Thanks brother for your neutral and on the spot comments!

I was listening to the HK radio this morning to get a better pictures from both sides ! There are different bands of protesters , some are innocent like the Uni students and some are well funded and well organised, who may or may not have some ulterior motives or different hidden agenda!

Some of the very provocative slogans they were using were baiting and challenging the government which in turn was a direct challenge to Beijing !

Like calling for the sacking of the CEO CY Leung and said they won't leave unless they are confronted by the People's Liberation Army - and we all knew what happened last time when the Army got involved with student protesters ! That's a never never !

[kln]

I personally understand the reason those uni students protesting about, it's about the right to choose.

I think Beijing should lighten up and understand the wishes of people, but anyway, this reminds me of an old song, this is a song by beyond called "cheung seng".

It means "great wall of china" it was banned back in early 90's, the song is a response of what happened 1-2 years back. I think ahlongor knows this song very well....

[AHLUNGOR]

I personally understand the reason those uni students protesting about, it's about the right to choose.

I think Beijing should lighten up and understand the wishes of people, but anyway, this reminds me of an old song, this is a song by beyond called "cheung seng".

It means "great wall of china" it was banned back in early 90's, the song is a response of what happened 1-2 years back. I think ahlongor knows this song very well....

Yes，that was a good song !

But the protestors this time was singing a different song from Beyond: The Glorious Days !

光輝歲月！

[kln]

光輝歲月！

Haven't watch any videos yet, but this is a good one. Not only a good song, but very appropriate for this "occasion".

[sukeong]

Looks like another group of students not having anything else to do but cause trouble. Seems theres nothing to do at uni these days but protest.

Don't really care about hk. The longer it drags on the worse it is for hk economy. They are sensing their sense of superiority over mainland is getting eroded day by day. And what they are doing will accelerate that. I hope the students can bear the consequences of their action cuz the mainland govt will just stand back and let this drag on to the detriment of the rest of hk. I don't have any preference over either side but after this I'm siding with mainland. Hk don't have to pay taxes already and never had any democracy under colonial rule but now the students want to stir up shit. Well u reap what u sow then.

[AHLUNGOR]

Haven't watch any videos yet, but this is a good one. Not only a good song, but very appropriate for this "occasion".

Have you seen the MTV of Anita Mui singing 血染的風采？

[kln]

Have you seen the MTV of Anita Mui singing 血染的風采？

nope,will have a look in a moment, haven't listen to her song for a while...

[AHLUNGOR]

nope,will have a look in a moment, haven't listen to her song for a while...

Here is the link for you brother, a timely reminder of the Tienanmen Square incident !


梅艷芳 血染的風采


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO4VCyXguSU

[AHLUNGOR]

Yes，that was a good song !

But the protestors this time was singing a different song from Beyond: The Glorious Days !

光輝歲月！

On a more positive note, let's enjoy this wonderful song from Wong Ka Kui (黃家駒; 10 June 1962 – 30 June 1993) he was such a talent !!

Beyond : 光輝歲月

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwSQQoWqeBs

[harmony]

If you live in China, you live with corrupted government. And too many people. And pollution.
Thats it. Period. End of it. This is not the West, where democracy means you can change things with protests.

Communism and democracy different systems
Corruption makes communists want to keep the corrupt system
Recent examples of corruptions with Chinese officials just sees them run to Melbourne to live, after they get caught lol !

HK protesters are wasting their time
Like trying to step on a dragons tail
If you do that, the story only will end in one way

My 2 cents

[AHLUNGOR]

If you live in China, you live with corrupted government. And too many people. And pollution.
Thats it. Period. End of it. This is not the West, where democracy means you can change things with protests.

Communism and democracy different systems
Corruption makes communists want to keep the corrupt system
Recent examples of corruptions with Chinese officials just sees them run to Melbourne to live, after they get caught lol !

HK protesters are wasting their time
Like trying to step on a dragons tail
If you do that, the story only will end in one way

My 2 cents

Hey buddy, fair enough comments, but let's not make it sounds like corruption is a "Made in China" special product ! it's everywhere mate, just look at the NSW State Parliament !! and many of the Union officials. And most people on Clive Palmer's speed dials...................lol

And further West, if the Iraqi and Assad governments were not so corrupted, do you think the ISIS has any chance to become what they are today?

I think the next chapter in Hong Kong will be the resignation of the CEO, and then things will all calm down, mark my words.................haha


Cheers

[harmony]

Brother, I never imply corruption is only in China
Corruption exists where there are human beings ! (NSW/Queensland/Victoria/WA/NT/TAS/America,Nth,Sth/Asia,India,Sri Lanka/Europe/North Pole, South Pole,Antarctica
Did I miss anyplace?

My point is that there is a particular nastiness about corruption in nondemocratic countries. Hard to get rid of corrupt officials. No accountability

At least in NSW we could vote out the state Labor goverment (Obeid, Tripodi, etc etc), and we could vote out the Liberal goverment if they become very unpopular

All protests in China is going to get you is Lifelong Government Surveillance and possibly have your passport cancelled
Step on the dragons tail and you need to wear your fireproof vest