Hong Kong pro-democracy protests paralysed the city !

[AHLUNGOR]

Brother, I never imply corruption is only in China
Corruption exists where there are human beings ! (NSW/Queensland/Victoria/WA/NT/TAS/America,Nth,Sth/Asia,India,Sri Lanka/Europe/North Pole, South Pole,Antarctica
Did I miss anyplace?

My point is that there is a particular nastiness about corruption in nondemocratic countries. Hard to get rid of corrupt officials. No accountability

At least in NSW we could vote out the state Labor goverment (Obeid, Tripodi, etc etc), and we could vote out the Liberal goverment if they become very unpopular

All protests in China is going to get you is Lifelong Government Surveillance and possibly have your passport cancelled
Step on the dragons tail and you need to wear your fireproof vest

OK, first thing first, you did miss out on a lot of places: firstly at home, how about SA and ACT................lol

Then the Middle East, all of Russia and the former USSR, Mogolia etc. and a few more sub-continent countries. and Let's not forget our neighbour/cousins the Kiwis and all the South Pacific and the African continent !

You said: At least in NSW we could vote out the state Labor goverment (Obeid, Tripodi, etc etc) - they do much better in China, for the corrupted officials they usually get a bullet !


But all you said was fine by me, just pulling your legs................haha

Cheers

[kln]

Here is the link for you brother, a timely reminder of the Tienanmen Square incident !


梅艷芳 血染的風采


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO4VCyXguSU

really good song in itself, if the political factor is added in, that really means a lot...thanks for sharing this song, never heard about it, probably it never gets popular due to the words

[kln]

On a more positive note, let's enjoy this wonderful song from Wong Ka Kui (黃家駒; 10 June 1962 – 30 June 1993) he was such a talent !!

Beyond : 光輝歲月

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwSQQoWqeBs

haha, reminds me of my teenage years, those days.....such a shame, he is so talented.

on a side note, "what if" the accident did not happen and we might get some even more powerful music from him as i understand he is a person who likes peace, and speaking about peace....amani

[kln]

I think the next chapter in Hong Kong will be the resignation of the CEO, and then things will all calm down, mark my words.................haha


Cheers

just a curious question, do u really think this is going to happen? as an outsider i understand that he is supported by beijing and i really cannot foresee this happening...probably is a good thing for the people but cannot imagine this happening imo....

[dl168]

The girl in pic 4 has white long legs, YUM!!

[harmony]

Interesting to think what would happen if a group tried to lock down the CBD in Sydney
I have no doubt the police would get to practise their anti - riot procedures
Closing down the CBD for days just wouldnt happen here

[AHLUNGOR]

just a curious question, do u really think this is going to happen? as an outsider i understand that he is supported by beijing and i really cannot foresee this happening...probably is a good thing for the people but cannot imagine this happening imo....

Yeah, I think the Taiwan factor plays a big part in how this situation will end ! The Hong Kong model on its own, is not a big concern for Beijing, but the future of Taiwan returning to China rule will be the ultimate objective. I'm sure all the Taiwanese people will be watching the current HK event with a lot of interest and how Beijing handle this will have a big impact on the road to unification.

I think Beijing will officially continue to support CY Leung but may be quietly tap him on the shoulder so that he will take all the blames and resign - being such an unpopular CEO, then all parties will safe face. The democratic movement in HK will regard that as a big win and will be more willing to talk and accept a modified resolution on the 2017 election and Taiwan will breathe a sight of relief. This is the best case out come, other than that, the HK people will suffer !

Just a thought !

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

The girl in pic 4 has white long legs, YUM!!

OK then, you can have some more long legs!! Now pay attention 168 !!

[AHLUNGOR]

haha, reminds me of my teenage years, those days.....such a shame, he is so talented.

on a side note, "what if" the accident did not happen and we might get some even more powerful music from him as i understand he is a person who likes peace, and speaking about peace....amani

Yes, Wong Ka Kui is a great talent, a peace lover and most of songs he had written would promote peace and love and freedom. If he is still around, I don't know, may be getting too rich and lost his innocent already!

We will never know, but he died very suddenly, it's almost like James Dean and Buddy Holly !!

Cheers

[kln]

Yeah, I think the Taiwan factor plays a big part in how this situation will end ! The Hong Kong model on its own, is not a big concern for Beijing, but the future of Taiwan returning to China rule will be the ultimate objective. I'm sure all the Taiwanese people will be watching the current HK event with a lot of interest and how Beijing handle this will have a big impact on the road to unification.

I think Beijing will officially continue to support CY Leung but may be quietly tap him on the shoulder so that he will take all the blames and resign - being such an unpopular CEO, then all parties will safe face. The democratic movement in HK will regard that as a big win and will be more willing to talk and accept a modified resolution on the 2017 election and Taiwan will breathe a sight of relief. This is the best case out come, other than that, the HK people will suffer !

Just a thought !

Cheers

Interesting thought as I have not think about Taiwan in this case, however that's a bit optimistic (I think) as personally I cannot foresee that Beijing will change their mind (which I think is better for HK) but anyway I really hope that there is a good outcome from this.

[harmony]

There is no reason why Beijing needs to change its mind. It is accountable to noone in terms of what it does within China

International businesses will still be able to conduct trade from HK as usual
There will be more fat cat bureaucrats, and everyone who is rich is happy
Chinese versions of Eddie Obeid, and Joe Tripodi, will flourish

These are enough reasons for protesters to be angry. Many of these HK students study in Australia, so they know democracy well
But there are no good reasons to protest- mainland China has made up its mind

[evil666]

So sad to see this

[AHLUNGOR]

Despite the fact that the riot police had shot tear gas into the protesting crowd on Sunday morning, the peaceful nature of the protestors have not changed, like holding up an umbrella for the police standing on post and shielded them from the rain. This is peace, this is GOLD !!

[harmony]

Yes peaceful. But I feel sorry for the small business owners that are going broke because of disruption to business
If these protests manage to change the proposed electoral system, I will impressed, so good luck

All the social media posts, the photos, the feelings of good sentiment, count for nothing if you ignore history, particularly the history of 1989.
I love idealists, except when they are kidding themselves

I remember the "Occupy the Streets" protest movement of the last few years, in Australia, Europe, and the USA
Homeless people joined white collar workers living and sleeping on the streets for months if not years, to protest about the greed of big business
Achieved absolutely nothing

This HK protest is not an original idea, and will probably be as useless

[EastwoodPunter]

Despite the fact that the riot police had shot tear gas into the protesting crowd on Sunday morning, the peaceful nature of the protestors have not changed, like holding up an umbrella for the police standing on post and shielded them from the rain. This is peace, this is GOLD !!

I realise I do not post much at all... but Ahlungor... this photo, has been inspiring. THIS, RIGHT HERE, is the illustration of the 1%ers on each end of a bell curve. I am proud to be born and raised in HK.
Also inspiring is the canoe with 3 gorgeous ladies on it... that's a story for another time...

[AHLUNGOR]

I realise I do not post much at all... but Ahlungor... this photo, has been inspiring. THIS, RIGHT HERE, is the illustration of the 1%ers on each end of a bell curve. I am proud to be born and raised in HK.................


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Thanks for your support brother !!

[harmony]

"Chief executive Leung Chun-ying, unpopular among protesters for his close ties to Beijing, has rejected calls to resign and has intimated that China will not compromise"
Can any of the optimists out there articulate just what these protests could realistically achieve ?

Learn to live within the confines of a Communist system, or emigrate if you can, brothers. They are the only options IMHO

[harmony]

Here is the other side of the coin:
Golden Week, the busiest time of the year for mainland Chinese to travel to Hong Kong to shop, is being significantly disrupted
Hong Kong businesses and economy suffers, for an unclear purpose

Hypothetical
If you were a group of medium-large businesses in the CBD, made up of HK citizens. Wouldnt you be calling the police to remove the protesters ?

[AHLUNGOR]

[QUOTE]

Can any of the optimists out there articulate just what these protests could realistically achieve ?

Nothing much probably, but sure beat sitting at home and do nothing !!

[wilisno]

William Wallace: Aye, fight and you may die. Run, and you'll live... at least a while. And dying in your beds, many years from now, would you be willin' to trade ALL the days, from this day to that, for one chance, just one chance, to come back here and tell our enemies that they may take our lives, but they'll never take... OUR FREEDOM!

What a system they've got !

" The First Night Right " !