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    Quote Originally Posted by juicykeyboard View Post
    Well I mean, if you believe that I have a bridge to sell you.

    Is GM succeeding in China or are its joint ventures with Chinese companies succeeding?

    Clearly you have no idea how foreign companies access the domestic Chinese market. After the Chinese side of the joint ventures have taken as much IP from GM as they need to operate the business themselves, GM will be barred from the market. These companies are not succeeding in China, they are being tolerated by the CCP temporarily until local competitors can be brought up to speed through forced technology transfers.

    Foreigners like you or I, can't even invest into Chinese companies directly (A shares), it's completely closed to foreigners. Yeah you could invest though a dodgy holding company or H shares, but just look what happened to Alibaba shareholders when Alipay was a subsidiary. Jack Ma literally just shifted the ownership of Alipay from Alibaba to his own personal company Ant Financial (supposedly to comply with Chinese law) and the foreign investors (including Yahoo) had no legal recourse.

    Maybe you should stop talking b.s. you have no idea what your talking about.
    Lol please, spare me with the shifting of goal posts and backtracking. You asked if any western company was successful in china and clearly there were. Who cares if they were joint ventures with a local company or not. They still made profits. Of course, if you want to do business in any country you gotta abide by their rules. GM sold more cars in china at one point than in US. Obviously they were happy enough with the deal and were successful in their business there. Not to mention Yum brands started out as a sole venture in china from the US.

    And yet Yahoo got a great deal out of a small initial investment whichbIt sold half back for about $7.6 billion in cash and preferred stock in 2012. Considering the company was going downhill and worth less than their Alibaba holdings at the end, they got out of that with a handsome profit. If anything, it was their investment in alibaba that saved them from being bought over earlier before the inevitable happened.

    Stick to med stuff and less bs please

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    Quote Originally Posted by sukeong View Post
    Lol please, spare me with the shifting of goal posts and backtracking. You asked if any western company was successful in china and clearly there were.
    Fair enough I see your point of view, profits were made, I should have been more clear with my language. This is just a too simplistic view if you ask me. In any case, it is the joint venture that is succeeding, the local Chinese company is the majority shareholder so you can't legitimately say the foreign company is succeeding at all. Being tolerated, most definitely, but once you factor in the forced transfer of IP (what is the worth of that? billions at the very least) succeeding not so much. But sure, in a simple minded way you can say well they made money so they succeeded I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukeong View Post
    Obviously they were happy enough with the deal and were successful in their business there.
    If I put a gun to your head and ask you to give me your wallet and smile while doing it you will. A passive observer might think that you were very happy with the deal you got. Considering the loss of IP I'd say there are exactly 0 foreign companies happy with the situation in China. But you gotta try at such a large market I guess.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukeong View Post
    Yum brands started out as a sole venture in china from the US.
    Are they a wholly owned foreign enterprise now? No.

    Quote Originally Posted by sukeong View Post
    And yet Yahoo got a great deal out of a small initial investment which. It sold half back for about $7.6 billion in cash and preferred stock in 2012. Considering the company was going downhill and worth less than their Alibaba holdings at the end, they got out of that with a handsome profit. If anything, it was their investment in alibaba that saved them from being bought over earlier before the inevitable happened.
    You seem to be glossing over the point that Jack Ma transferred ownership of Alipay from Alibaba to Ant Financial. He literally stole the company that is worth around $50 billion these days as far as I can tell.

    If you were a shareholder in my company, and your share was worth $10 (you bought in at $1), then I decided to place the the profit making operations into a shell company, would you be happy now that you can still sell your share for $2? I mean it's a 100% profit increase. Well done you've succeeded. I'm sure you wouldn't try to sue me (oh wait you can't anyway, I'm in China).

    Quote Originally Posted by sukeong View Post
    Stick to med stuff and less bs please
    Clearly you've got no idea about this stuff (probably not medicine either) so you should spare me and stick to whatever it is you know.

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