Heart broken

[Climax598]

Power of pussy.....seen a random twice and contemplated leaving his wife and 3 kids

Don't you know a woman pussy control a man mind and his dick.

[The AR guy]

Dude, I feel you, so understand this comes from a place of understanding, and empathy.
Best thing that could have happened to you is never seeing her again.
Let me repeat, best thing that could have happened.
You're smitten, but you have to understand this would not have panned out like you hope. Trust me on this. You were on the road to ruin.
It'll suck for a while, but you'll find another cute little Japanese girl to steal your heart, and nobody is better at chewing up and spitting out hearts than Japanese girls, although a few give it their best shot (Korean, Czech and Vietnamese to start) and you'll remember old Uncle Asiafever's words of advice for dealing with ml/wl. Love but don't fall in love, hold her but not for too long, she's not the one.

Feel what you got to feel, but move on. This would not have ended well.

Absolutely correct! Working girls only see it as a business transaction and punters are well-served to treat it the same way. Be nice, enjoy the time but get emotionally involved at your own peril.

[asiafever]

Oh dear.
History repeating itself.
I wonder if this will fall on deaf ears, yet again.....

The Spider and The Fly.

“Will you walk into my parlor?” said the spider to the fly;
“’Tis the prettiest little parlor that ever you did spy.
The way into my parlor is up a winding stair,
And I have many pretty things to show when you are there.”
“O no, no,” said the little fly, “to ask me is in vain,
For who goes up your winding stair can ne’er come down again.”

“I’m sure you must be weary, dear, with soaring up so high;
Will you rest upon my little bed?” said the spider to the fly.
“There are pretty curtains drawn around, the sheets are fine and thin,
And if you like to rest awhile, I’ll snugly tuck you in.”
“O no, no,” said the little fly, “for I’ve often heard it said,
They never, never wake again, who sleep upon your bed.”

Said the cunning spider to the fly, “Dear friend, what shall I do,
To prove the warm affection I’ve always felt for you?
I have within my pantry good store of all that’s nice;
I’m sure you’re very welcome; will you please to take a slice?”
“O no, no,” said the little fly, “kind sir, that cannot be;
I’ve heard what’s in your pantry, and I do not wish to see.”

“Sweet creature!” said the spider, “You’re witty and you’re wise!
How handsome are your gauzy wings, how brilliant are your eyes!
I have a little looking-glass upon my parlor shelf,
If you’ll step in one moment, dear, you shall behold yourself.”
“I thank you, gentle sir,” she said, “for what you’re pleased to say,
And bidding you good-morning now, I’ll call another day.”

The spider turned him round about, and went into his den,
For well he knew the silly fly would soon be back again:
So he wove a subtle web, in a little corner sly,
And set his table ready to dine upon the fly.
Then he came out to his door again, and merrily did sing
“Come hither, hither, pretty fly, with the pearl and silver wing:
Your robes are green and purple; there’s a crest upon your head;
Your eyes are like the diamond bright, but mine are dull as lead.”

Alas, alas! how very soon this silly little fly,
Hearing his wily flattering words, came slowly flitting by.
With buzzing wings she hung aloft, then near and nearer drew
Thinking only of her brilliant eyes, and green and purple hue;
Thinking only of her crested head — poor foolish thing! At last,
Up jumped the cunning spider, and fiercely held her fast.
He dragged her up his winding stair, into his dismal den,
Within his little parlor; but she ne’er came out again!

And now, dear little children, who may this story read,
To idle, silly, flattering words, I pray you ne’er give heed;
Unto an evil counselor close heart, and ear, and eye,
And take a lesson from this tale of the Spider and the Fly.

Love this. Brilliant.

[manjuice333]

Thanks for all the replies. The harsh funny ones and the empathetic ones are equally appreciated.

Seems to be a delay in my posting, I replied to a couple but they appeared late on the previous page.

Just to reiterate, I know WL see it as a business transaction and I had never been under any illusions that this was not the case. Not until this one. I don’t know what’s happened to me, she’s wrecked me right before the apocalypse lol.

Woe is me.

[krnboy]

Hi All,

First, sorry that I have not posted many reviews, hopefully the reasons for that will become clear. I just have to get this off my chest, somehow, if it is at all possible.

I’ve been secretly punting for years. Secretly, because I’m married with 3 young kids.

Anyway, I’ve had it all, hot, not-so-hot, high end, low end blah blah... This has been going on for eleven years I must have been with easily over 70 women, maybe more than 100 lost count. It was an addiction I had developed, one I wanted to be rid of.

In all this time I have not developed feelings for any of them even though with some I had good chemistry and very much enjoyed them. I thought I was immune to catching feelings, until recently.

I met this young Japanese ML and only saw her twice but I was smitten hard, like seriously considering the option of leaving my poor family. I do stress the words ‘considering’ and ‘option’. I found myself missing and yearning to see her. Feelings I have not felt in Probably 15 years.

I was going to see her today and planning on getting her contact details, which I believe I would have been successful in doing as I could tell she really liked me too. I was planning this for fear that the shop would be closed down and she’d return to Japan. Well they were open till just now and I had a bad feeling which was confirmed when they told me they’re closing indefinitely. I will probably never see her again, which is good for my marriage, I suppose lol

My heart has been rent asunder. I wandered the streets near the shop vainly hoping that our paths might cross but it was not to be.

Just as I thought I was beyond romantic feelings, I also thought I was beyond romantic heartbreak, but I can now feel its painful sting, rather acutely.

I really don’t think I can ever punt again, which is a good thing I suppose.

What you have now may be the best thing in your life which you probably have not realised. Don't lose everything you got now over a girl you met twice.

What if things didn't work out for you if you did leave your family?

Blessing in disguise I say

[GoldfishMan]

Hi All,

First, sorry that I have not posted many reviews, hopefully the reasons for that will become clear. I just have to get this off my chest, somehow, if it is at all possible.

I’ve been secretly punting for years. Secretly, because I’m married with 3 young kids.

Anyway, I’ve had it all, hot, not-so-hot, high end, low end blah blah... This has been going on for eleven years I must have been with easily over 70 women, maybe more than 100 lost count. It was an addiction I had developed, one I wanted to be rid of.

In all this time I have not developed feelings for any of them even though with some I had good chemistry and very much enjoyed them. I thought I was immune to catching feelings, until recently.

I met this young Japanese ML and only saw her twice but I was smitten hard, like seriously considering the option of leaving my poor family. I do stress the words ‘considering’ and ‘option’. I found myself missing and yearning to see her. Feelings I have not felt in Probably 15 years.

I was going to see her today and planning on getting her contact details, which I believe I would have been successful in doing as I could tell she really liked me too. I was planning this for fear that the shop would be closed down and she’d return to Japan. Well they were open till just now and I had a bad feeling which was confirmed when they told me they’re closing indefinitely. I will probably never see her again, which is good for my marriage, I suppose lol

My heart has been rent asunder. I wandered the streets near the shop vainly hoping that our paths might cross but it was not to be.

Just as I thought I was beyond romantic feelings, I also thought I was beyond romantic heartbreak, but I can now feel its painful sting, rather acutely.

I really don’t think I can ever punt again, which is a good thing I suppose.

I feel your pain, but it's all part of being "in lust". That longing feeling is something to be treasured because you rarely would find someone worth longing for! Enjoy it!
I have to say, though, having a relationship with a WL/ML is a real mind-bender. I mean, in a normal courtship, you go through increasing levels of intimacy, all along getting to know all the things you may or may not like about each other. On this normal journey, you can always see something you really dislike about someone before getting a "home run", and call it quits right there.
In some relationships, you get through all the shitty things you don't like, and there might be a lot of it, but get to the sex part and it turns out to be mind-blowingly good, so it continues. The greatness of the sex out-weighs everything else.
In a WL/ML relationship, however, it's upside down. Both sides start from maximum intimacy. Maybe the sex was great. Maybe the lead up during the sesh was great because you're 2 sexy naked bodies talking to each other. In this situation, pussy and cock rule over brains. Even the WL/ML's own judgement is farked. So you start a relationship from there....
Then you both start to see all the shit you don't like or absolutely hate about each other. It's always downhill from there because you started from the peak!

[asiafever]

I feel your pain, but it's all part of being "in lust". That longing feeling is something to be treasured because you rarely would find someone worth longing for! Enjoy it!
I have to say, though, having a relationship with a WL/ML is a real mind-bender. I mean, in a normal courtship, you go through increasing levels of intimacy, all along getting to know all the things you may or may not like about each other. On this normal journey, you can always see something you really dislike about someone before getting a "home run", and call it quits right there.
In some relationships, you get through all the shitty things you don't like, and there might be a lot of it, but get to the sex part and it turns out to be mind-blowingly good, so it continues. The greatness of the sex out-weighs everything else.
In a WL/ML relationship, however, it's upside down. Both sides start from maximum intimacy. Maybe the sex was great. Maybe the lead up during the sesh was great because you're 2 sexy naked bodies talking to each other. In this situation, pussy and cock rule over brains. Even the WL/ML's own judgement is farked. So you start a relationship from there....
Then you both start to see all the shit you don't like or absolutely hate about each other. It's always downhill from there because you started from the peak!

Very true.
And if your evil genie grants your wish, and you end up in a relationship with said girl, in 99/100 cases you'll end up a mental case, or devastated, or a cold heartless shell of a man..
It is nothing like you think it is going to be. Even in the "good" relationships it is a mindfuck. Oh you think you're going to save her? So does every single other guy currently lusting after her, and all those that went before you.
You make the mistake of reading a review about her, you think you're cool and understanding, you promised yourself you wouldn't read, but curiosity gets the better of you, it says she did something that she promises she doesn't do with customers.. you have to believe her as relationships are built on trust, but... that doubt eats away at you, gnawing on your mind like a cancer. So you disconnect from forums, best thing to do for your mental health. You don't need them anyway, I mean, you're not really punting anymore, right?
You need supreme self confidence, because when you're out together some dumb fuck can't help but let it be known he's seen her in the shop. You brush it off, she CHOSE to be with you, right? After a while it grates on you both though, so you tend to stay in, or hang out in a really tight group. Guys text her at all hours on her work number. Most massage girls have a work phone in my experience if they have been in the game a while. You hear the "brrrrrb" of it on vibrate consistently, and after a while you want to chuck the fucking thing out the window. She switches it off, you feel like a cunt because that is her work, you knew this going in, you bought into it. Hell you were that guy texting! Yeah...
But those tender moments, her falling asleep with her head on your chest while you watch tv together, the smile and giggle you know are her genuine one's, not those she gives to customers, when she sings to you, the kind of things only you can appreciate, surely they make it worthwhile?

It took me a few goes to learn, I should have listened to wiser heads, it's not a winning game.

[cuteguy]

The rule with WLs and MLs is don't get involved with them! They are working in an industry to provide service and they have to lead a double life to get what they want from guys (money) while also distancing themselves from having any genuine emotional or physical attachment to customers. You can have fun with them and that's all fine but dont get too carried away with them. If you do, they will screw with your mind and you will go crazy to the point just like our brother here who couldn't stop thinking about his girl. In all of this, she didn't care and simply disappeared. Many of them don't care if they hurt you with their actions. Therefore, don't get involved with them at all.

[manjuice333]

Very true.
And if your evil genie grants your wish, and you end up in a relationship with said girl, in 99/100 cases you'll end up a mental case, or devastated, or a cold heartless shell of a man..
It is nothing like you think it is going to be. Even in the "good" relationships it is a mindfuck. Oh you think you're going to save her? So does every single other guy currently lusting after her, and all those that went before you.
You make the mistake of reading a review about her, you think you're cool and understanding, you promised yourself you wouldn't read, but curiosity gets the better of you, it says she did something that she promises she doesn't do with customers.. you have to believe her as relationships are built on trust, but... that doubt eats away at you, gnawing on your mind like a cancer. So you disconnect from forums, best thing to do for your mental health. You don't need them anyway, I mean, you're not really punting anymore, right?
You need supreme self confidence, because when you're out together some dumb fuck can't help but let it be known he's seen her in the shop. You brush it off, she CHOSE to be with you, right? After a while it grates on you both though, so you tend to stay in, or hang out in a really tight group. Guys text her at all hours on her work number. Most massage girls have a work phone in my experience if they have been in the game a while. You hear the "brrrrrb" of it on vibrate consistently, and after a while you want to chuck the fucking thing out the window. She switches it off, you feel like a cunt because that is her work, you knew this going in, you bought into it. Hell you were that guy texting! Yeah...
But those tender moments, her falling asleep with her head on your chest while you watch tv together, the smile and giggle you know are her genuine one's, not those she gives to customers, when she sings to you, the kind of things only you can appreciate, surely they make it worthwhile?

It took me a few goes to learn, I should have listened to wiser heads, it's not a winning game.

Wow it sounds very much like you’re speaking from experience!

Thanks for the advice I do appreciate it. I think I had already become a cold heartless shell of a man lol. I’m still trying to understand what the hell has happened to me. As I said in my OP, been with dozens of women and none of them have hit me like this one. Argh!

[ML_Lover]

Cute guy is exactly right.

I’ve been in a casual relationship with an occasional ML the last 9 months or so. So hot. So cute. So amazing sex. So 30 years younger than me. Sends me funny/cute msgs or photos of herself on WhatsApp everyday. Hardly ever asks for money, and only small amounts (<$80) when she does. But she is literally a sociopath. No matter how hard I try, she is a rock. I’ve worked very hard to not get too emotionally invested, but it’s a damn hard daily battle.

Interesting to see if our ‘relationship’ can survive Cv19 and 2-3 months apart. Since I won’t be seeing her after Thursday (wife says if I go out socially after that I won’t be allowed back in the house, lol) I wonder if she will still ask for money occasionally. I expect so - not sure what I’m going to say - ‘No’ will almost certainly mean she won’t see me after cv19 is over. ‘Yes’ almost certainly means she will - but I kinda object to just handing over money as a payment for potential future services... Opinions?

[mkkid]

Cute guy is exactly right.

I’ve been in a casual relationship with an occasional ML the last 9 months or so. So hot. So cute. So amazing sex. So 30 years younger than me. Sends me funny/cute msgs or photos of herself on WhatsApp everyday. Hardly ever asks for money, and only small amounts (<$80) when she does. But she is literally a sociopath. No matter how hard I try, she is a rock. I’ve worked very hard to not get too emotionally invested, but it’s a damn hard daily battle.

Interesting to see if our ‘relationship’ can survive Cv19 and 2-3 months apart. Since I won’t be seeing her after Thursday (wife says if I go out socially after that I won’t be allowed back in the house, lol) I wonder if she will still ask for money occasionally. I expect so - not sure what I’m going to say - ‘No’ will almost certainly mean she won’t see me after cv19 is over. ‘Yes’ almost certainly means she will - but I kinda object to just handing over money as a payment for potential future services... Opinions?

Wow - how do you manage to evade wife for so long?

[HighFlyer]

time to bring up the Polonius handbag story again ?

You dodged a bullet, but can totally empathise with the feelings you experienced. Go and find another cute J Girl and that will help.

[wilisno]

time to bring up the Polonius handbag story again ?

You dodged a bullet, but can totally empathise with the feelings you experienced. Go and find another cute J Girl and that will help.

Haha, proof of a forum old timer !

[Action Pump]

Sorry to say but I'm the type if you never ask, you never know what could have been. You should have got her number straight away.

[asiafever]

Wow it sounds very much like you’re speaking from experience!

Thanks for the advice I do appreciate it. I think I had already become a cold heartless shell of a man lol. I’m still trying to understand what the hell has happened to me. As I said in my OP, been with dozens of women and none of them have hit me like this one. Argh!

Not sure if you caught on, but it all has kind of left me a little jaded... I hide it well though..
It happens to the best of us. It will pass soon enough. Japanese girls have been my downfall more times than I care to admit.

[yug]

I met this young Japanese ML and only saw her twice but I was smitten hard, like seriously considering the option of leaving my poor family. I do stress the words ‘considering’ and ‘option’. I found myself missing and yearning to see her. Feelings I have not felt in Probably 15 years.

Your man juice has gone to your head!
Are you even hearing yourself?

You have seen her twice and now you're seriously considering the option of leaving your poor family.
Two visits are like 2 hours of your life. You are willing to give up your wife and kids for that.
You need a serious intervention. Don't you have some friends who can smack you on your head at time like this.

I was going to see her today and planning on getting her contact details, which I believe I would have been successful in doing as I could tell she really liked me too.

No.
She likes you as much as the breakfast she had that day.
Not sure if she can spend her whole life with "egg mcmuffin".

You might be thinking: Why is this guy all rude to me?
Because you seem like 20-something version of me!
I wanna go back in time and punch that 20-something version of me. Repeatedly!
Don't make the same mistake as me!

So, Snap out of it man!

[krnboy]

Your man juice has gone to your head!
Are you even hearing yourself?

You have seen her twice and now you're seriously considering the option of leaving your poor family.
Two visits are like 2 hours of your life. You are willing to give up your wife and kids for that.
You need a serious intervention. Don't you have some friends who can smack you on your head at time like this.


No.
She likes you as much as the breakfast she had that day.
Not sure if she can spend her whole life with "egg mcmuffin".

You might be thinking: Why is this guy all rude to me?
Because you seem like 20-something version of me!
I wanna go back in time and punch that 20-something version of me. Repeatedly!
Don't make the same mistake as me!

So, Snap out of it man!

So brutally honest but it's good to be in situations like these.

[asiafever]

Your man juice has gone to your head!
Are you even hearing yourself?

You have seen her twice and now you're seriously considering the option of leaving your poor family.
Two visits are like 2 hours of your life. You are willing to give up your wife and kids for that.
You need a serious intervention. Don't you have some friends who can smack you on your head at time like this.


No.
She likes you as much as the breakfast she had that day.
Not sure if she can spend her whole life with "egg mcmuffin".

You might be thinking: Why is this guy all rude to me?
Because you seem like 20-something version of me!
I wanna go back in time and punch that 20-something version of me. Repeatedly!
Don't make the same mistake as me!

So, Snap out of it man!

"Egg mcmuffin."
Brilliant. Had to show my appreciation for that line.

[manjuice333]

Your man juice has gone to your head!
Are you even hearing yourself?

You have seen her twice and now you're seriously considering the option of leaving your poor family.
Two visits are like 2 hours of your life. You are willing to give up your wife and kids for that.
You need a serious intervention. Don't you have some friends who can smack you on your head at time like this.


No.
She likes you as much as the breakfast she had that day.
Not sure if she can spend her whole life with "egg mcmuffin".

You might be thinking: Why is this guy all rude to me?
Because you seem like 20-something version of me!
I wanna go back in time and punch that 20-something version of me. Repeatedly!
Don't make the same mistake as me!

So, Snap out of it man!

lol, come on, I'm at least a big breakfast!

All good, I slapped myself in the face today repeatedly and hard. It only helped for the moments the slap lasted.

I wish I could explain this away by being a young 20-something idiot but unfortunately I'm not even that young.

I haven't felt this way since when I met my wife and a few girls before that. After sleeping with so many women and feeling no emotional attachment whatsoever I didn't think it was possible and wasn't worried about it even happening until I've been hit by this bullet train.

Wish I never met her

[ML_Lover]

Wow - how do you manage to evade wife for so long?

I have a great job where I can randomly take afternoons off and ‘work late’.
Ex/occasional ML has a ‘real’ bf that she has to make up excuses for too, lol.
We joke it’s our shared secret double life.

We have a long sexually oriented bucket list - so sad cv19.


Speaking from experience of dating many ML’s - I Gotta agree with some of the other comments above - you’ve seen her twice and you think something special is happening? These girls are usually very emotionally tough - she might not have even given you her phone number had you asked - your respective feelings are potentially worlds apart...