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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiegaigin View Post
    A bit confusing, from https://www.nsw.gov.au/covid-19/what...do-under-rules


    Open

    Healthcare

    If you need a health service or therapy, call ahead if you have any COVID-19 symptoms or are feeling unwell.

    Chemist
    Doctors and medical centres
    Hospitals
    Pathology
    Physiotherapy
    Remedial or therapeutic massage services


    But then:


    Closed

    Massage parlours
    Nail, beauty, waxing and tanning salons
    Spas (including where they are part of a hotel)
    Tattoo parlours
    Strip clubs and sex services premises
    Oh c’mon bro! You kidding? No need to be confused here. We all know the difference between those two...
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    So what if the are legit remedial massage place which you can claim health insurance but the girls provide extra service too. In theory they should be able to operate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshjive View Post
    So what if the are legit remedial massage place which you can claim health insurance but the girls provide extra service too. In theory they should be able to operate.
    If only they existed.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshjive View Post
    So what if the are legit remedial massage place which you can claim health insurance but the girls provide extra service too. In theory they should be able to operate.
    Would that make them "sex services premises"?.

    The primary definition of "massage parlour" in the dictionary is a place where you can pay someone to give you a massage
    ; doesn't have to be sexual.

    I go to the shops for the massage. I thought the tug at the end was just part of the therapy, very remedial. LOL

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiegaigin View Post
    Would that make them "sex services premises"?.

    The primary definition of "massage parlour" in the dictionary is a place where you can pay someone to give you a massage
    ; doesn't have to be sexual.

    I go to the shops for the massage. I thought the tug at the end was just part of the therapy, very remedial. LOL
    Yes, just massaging different and all types of muscles !
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    On the supply side (Shops)
    Many R&T shops have closed but they will quickly reopen.
    There are very few overheads. You just lease any shop or apartment (and there will be plenty of empty and cheap shops for lease after the lockdown and landlords desperate to lease to anyone) then get a dodgy cheap handyman to put up a few partitions and you are ready for business.
    Th licensed R&T shops and FS brothels will have a taken a big hit to earnings over the lockdown, but they have too much invested in the business to close forever and will return to business as soon as the ban is lifted.
    They will probably have lots of opening promotions and specials to lure back customers.
    A lot will also depend on whether they can get enough WLs/MLs to work at their shops. Which brings me to ...

    On the supply side (WLS and MLs)
    For as long as the ban on entry to Australia remains this will limit the number of new girls coming in to the industry from overseas.
    Once the ban is lifted a huge amount of WLs/MLs will come here just as they always have done.
    There is still a large number of MLs/WLs who have remained in the country and they will return to the industry keen to make up for lost earnings.
    There will be a small amount of newbies from ABCs/Ks etc, and real genuine International students at real universities entering the industry for the first time. They will be pretty rare though.
    Overall the supply of WLs and MLs will be down until the travel ban is removed.

    On the Demand side (punters)
    Most punters will return to punting.
    There will be a few who will have been scared off forever and a few hesitant ones who want to wait and see, but eventually most punters will return.
    Some punters will have less money due to unemployment or their businesses losing revenue.
    But on the other hand some will be cashed up after many months of no punting, no gambling, no dining out, no travelling etc, And going to Thailand, HK, Philippines etc to punt is not an option so they have to punt locally.
    Overall demand will be roughly the same or maybe slightly down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by freshjive View Post
    So what if the are legit remedial massage place which you can claim health insurance but the girls provide extra service too. In theory they should be able to operate.
    Yea I think they have license requirements. but who knows maybe they bother paying for them to help bring in more clients.

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    So “health service” and “health service provider” are both defined terms in NSW Public Health Act:

    “health service” includes the following services, whether provided as public or private services:
    (a) medical, hospital, nursing and midwifery services,
    (b) dental services,
    (c) mental health services,
    (d) pharmaceutical services,
    (e) ambulance services,
    (f) community health services,
    (g) health education services,
    (h) welfare services necessary to implement any services referred to in paragraphs (a)–(g),
    (i) services provided in connection with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health practices and medical radiation practices,
    (j) Chinese medicine, chiropractic, occupational therapy, optometry, osteopathy, physiotherapy, podiatry and psychology services,
    (j1) optical dispensing, dietitian, massage therapy, naturopathy, acupuncture, speech therapy, audiology and audiometry services,
    (k) services provided in other alternative health care fields,
    (k1) forensic pathology services,
    (l) a service prescribed by the regulations as a health service for the purposes of this Act.
    “health service provider” means a person who provides a health service (being a health practitioner or a health organisation).

    So ...

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    [QUOTE=Jumper63;1965509]So “health service” and “health service provider” are both defined terms in NSW Public Health Act:

    “health service” includes the following services, whether provided as public or private services:
    (a) medical, hospital, nursing and midwifery services,
    (b) dental services,
    (c) mental health services,
    (d) pharmaceutical services,
    (e) ambulance services,
    (f) community health services,
    (g) health education services,
    (h) welfare services necessary to implement any services referred to in paragraphs (a)–(g),
    (i) services provided in connection with Aboriginal and Torres Strait Islander health practices and medical radiation practices,
    (j) Chinese medicine, chiropractic, occupational therapy, optometry, osteopathy, physiotherapy, podiatry and psychology services,
    (j1) optical dispensing, dietitian, massage therapy, naturopathy, acupuncture, speech therapy, audiology and audiometry services,
    (k) services provided in other alternative health care fields,
    (k1) forensic pathology services,
    (l) a service prescribed by the regulations as a health service for the purposes of this Act.
    “health service provider” means a person who provides a health service (being a health practitioner or a health organisation).

    So ...[/Q

    So....not RnT....or did they forget to mention it in health act....I mean blue balls is a medical condition 🤪

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bunty4 View Post

    So....not RnT....or did they forget to mention it in health act....I mean blue balls is a medical condition ��
    Is it not just another form or extension of "Massage Therapy"?

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiegaigin View Post
    Is it not just another form or extension of "Massage Therapy"?
    My guess is that remedial/therapeutic means some kind of qualified training from a certified board of practitioners, and parlour is anyone who just sets up a shop. It is not exactly clean cut though, because you can get extras at legit shops from highly trained ML, and sometimes a ML from a parlor that popped up over night might have received proper certified training at one point. Its pretty murky.

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    A few years back, many councils had a requirement that anyone wanting DA approval for a massage shop had to have evidence of professional qualifications. Of course, that did not necessarily apply to the people actually working there.

    Like in the past, boundaries will be stretched until a shop gets caught out. The police can be a bit more heavy handed than council inspectors.

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    Quote Originally Posted by aussiegaigin View Post
    A few years back, many councils had a requirement that anyone wanting DA approval for a massage shop had to have evidence of professional qualifications. Of course, that did not necessarily apply to the people actually working there.

    Like in the past, boundaries will be stretched until a shop gets caught out. The police can be a bit more heavy handed than council inspectors.
    Yep...police mates of mine did say they will be more active as soon as restrictions are relaxed.... because restrictions are to be relaxed non contact... perplexed with non contact massage place🤪. Got a wicked look from them.

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    Think surely the world's oldest profession will bounce back from this one just like every other catastrophe in history

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