We are getting 3 second hand subs by 2030. There is no immediate threat . Years of underfunding our military because governments could . We usually spend 2 % gdp.on defence this works out at 3%. Sounds a lot but it's over 30 years . A few subs won't stop China but they won't attack us it would start ww3. Don't listen to dutton he just using the lnp race card that has worked for years . We do need strong allies we are to small to stand alone . America is going back to.the Philippines. Should have been done already but scomo couldn't organise a fuck in a brothel