I am not big on tipping more than the agreed price, but if she goes completely above and beyond what i was expecting well then i might tip if i plan on going back to her.
Definitions:
1. Service Charge: a fee paid for the labor involved in delivering a service. Mandatory.
Examples: the money you pay your barber for a haircut; the money you pay your mechanic for changing your oil (not the oil itself, but the labor involved in changing it); the money you pay the repairman to fix your a/c (not the parts, but his labor)
2. Tip: a gratuity, given as a gift. Optional.
Examples: In the food industry, derived from To Insure Promptness, given to a waitress. The extra money given to your barber, perhaps acknowledging the hot towel he put on your face before shaving (or to just shut you up). But it's optional, NOT mandatory.
So, the money I pay the ML for the NHJ, BJ, FS, is a service charge for services rendered. And even if she's said, "up to you", what I pay is a service charge for a given service. What ever it is, it's a mandatory payment, a fee OWED.
If a restaurant automatically applies a tip, say a certain percentage of the bill, then it's NOT a tip and IS listed on the receipt as a Service Charge.
I never tip. My tip is return BUSINESS. It's a TRANSACTIONAL BUSINESS, services provided for agreed upon fees. I don't tip my mechanic. I do tip my barber if for no other reason that he always strops the straight razor before my shave (and that I see him quarterly, not monthly, but still have no trouble booking an appointment).
There are exceptions. Just today, I gave a tip to a long time regular. In ADDITION to the agreed upon SERVICE CHARGE for certain supplied services, I also added a tip, a GIFT, of an optional amount, apologizing I didn't have a red envelope to put it in (and also because it would be the last time I saw her for some time. DEROStion is approaching).
Summary:
The fee that you pay the ML for the extras is NOT a tip but a service charge. If you add anything as a gift over and above the service charges, that's a tip. Walk out of a shop without providing a tip, no problem. Walk out without paying the service charge... see how far you get.
If it were priceless, then who could afford? As proven above, what you pay is a service charge for a physical transaction, agreed upon by both parties.
Priceless: Having incalculable monetary, intellectual, or spiritual worth
Not for me. I can ALWAYS calculate what HER experience that day is worth to me. It's the basic Go/No-Go decision.
IMHO isn't the issue differing peoples perceptions of what the actual 'service charge' rate is rather than adding additional payment ? Those who frequent this forum would have a pretty solid grasp of the cost of NHJ to FS maybe the issue is how much each individual is actually prepared to fork out for said service.
We've all had a NHJ and then there's THE NHJ absolutely poles apart (pun intended) so saying 1 pineapple could be the difference of a pineapple the size of a grape or a water melon
I usually run by the guideline prices but have paid double the price in a few instances and believe I got x 10 in return - is that being generous even though I feel I got the best deal ever
Each to there own I guess but interesting and enlightening words of wisdom - thanks to all the contributors
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CLEAR to me. Just yesterday, saw my #1 regular. Given FS is 150 (in your example, verbal contract for 150 agreed to by both parties), not stated but understood from previous "verbal contract". Also owed $70 for the massage. Total service charge $220. Handed her $250, with a "keep the change, Happy New Year". For me, that's $70 massage service fee, $150 "upgrade" service fee, and $30 TIP. The first two were service fees owed, mandatory, the last a tip
YMMV, but I don't need to negotiate every time with a repeat. We both understand.
Another thread with many views and comments. One thing I have learnt throughout my life is that you generally get what you pay for. And generally the people who do the best are the ones that get paid most. Not a universal rule but good to keep in mind. I don't pay overs to all, but some are just better. 😎
True, but there are many forms of extra payments. A tip is one, another a standard rate repeated REGULARLY counts with the smart providers: money in the bank. She knows that she IS replaceable and many won't want to jeopardize that cash flow. It's why the regular above sent me a complete list of the shops/days she's working, and why I book with her and let her notify the shop. My experience, anyway, both here and elsewhere.
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Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM
I don't tip my doctor, I look him in the eyes and say "thank you for saving my life". I'd like to think that doctors are professionals that would appreciate my deepest spoken gratitude.
With a WG? The universal language is MONEY, and the best way that I can say "thank you" to her is to give more of it to her.
Tipping doesn't make a girl fall in love with you but she might fall in love with your wallet. If she's always expecting bigger tips each visit she might be trying to suck your wallet dry before she disappears.
If you really want to thank her for showing you a mind-blowing good time, a gift of perfume or earring set is appropriate.
For me, there are the real "thank you" tips, and then there are the amounts I give to ensure that I get the same "extras" in my next visits. *Wink"
The real "thank you" tips I give are very modest, no more than 50 bucks. I don't generally expect anything in return when pay those, just a smile from the girl will do. A smile when I return to see her again would be a bonus.
The other classification of "tip"... I'm not going to divulge that here. Let's just say no girl has complained about it and I have had plenty of happy return visits based on this.
Message originally posted by Nautilus on 13-02-2024 at 08:55 PM
I sort have had the opposite my regular doesn't seem to accept tips.
And last time when I saw her at her place, was going to rounded up to the nearest 100 to make it easy, but she insisted on giving change, where she actually short changed her self a tad, if it was the shops normal fee.
I still give a more Tips like the shop charge u $130 include NHJ and im still give the lady extra $20-50 depend How well is their massage n efforts to please you, and sometimes i still give extra $50-100 to the fs shop depend on How well their performance. Thats how u treat and respect the ladies guys