Explained very well indeed Bro DayMan!
This again? Good god.
The cheapest and best form of actual rock n roll, focus is on me, guaranteed great sex is an ML or WL. One hour entirely devoted to your pleasure. Pay your money and walk out the door.
Everything else is just plain hard work. You marry or de facto because you're creating a social life, a family and a financial base. Sex is, eventually, way down the list of things a wife concerns herself about. Which is why prostitution started around about the same time we rolled out of a cave.
But date a ML or WL? You're insane. There is absolutely no upside and huge downside. She'll never trust you, she'll get as sick of sex as any normal woman and you'll never get over the number of cocks she's had.
Live your life, get married, have kids, and fuck a hooker once a week. Your life will be immeasurably more satisfying. Your wife can play all those sex as a reward bullshit games and you'll not give a flying fuck. Happy days.
Explained very well indeed Bro DayMan!
In relation to wife/partner relationships, this is on the mark Dan and so very true. Sad and perhaps hollow for many, but true and a reality for a majority I suspect.
In terms of relationships with WL/MLs, I think perhaps some punters are looking for something more from a WL to plug gaps in their circumstances and readily allow themselves to misinterpret what is really happening in the room for that hour.
On top of that some WLs are very skilled at creating the illusion of a possible relationship or that you are the "special one"....it's called GFE for a reason, plus it is groundwork for your return. It's been said before but on leaving a room after a booking as the door closes you can often see the WLs smile disapear quickly as she readies herself mentally and physically for the next guy....and at the end of her shift, rest assured she won't be thinking of you!
I can understand how dating a WL can seem a possibility to some punters but doubt there would be many positive outcomes.
Pay Fuck Leave ....don't overthink it!
100% agree. I mean look at some retards like Hayabi who misinterpreted GFE for interest/love from a WL.
If you want a GF/partner don't find one in this industry. People to need to understand you're paying for a service. Ironically the better the service, the more likely there'll be people who fall in love.
Yes, indeed, "Pay...Fuck..Leave..." is the only equation that is true.
After all, if you take out the word "Pay", you will not get the word "Fuck" included.....
There is a definite lack of self-reflection with some punters unable to decipher the massive dysfunction in pretending to be "dating" a prostitute.
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My biggest issue is conversation. Other than that the rest is fine. Prostitutes need the illusion of love like other women. I say illusion because I doubt I could ever love any woman. So I’ll promote an illusion to satisfy their want. They’re friends with benefits and they all have a shelf life.
Low-hanging fruit, that's what it is with the single punters that get sucked into pursuing a relationship with a WG starting from a position as a john.
They need to realise that the fact that they met her in that setting, as a john meeting a WG, is the one thing that will undo the relationship. Knowledge is the key, and unfortunately for them, everyone would know too much about the other once it started that way.
And to make it worse, sometimes it's not only the punter that makes this mistake. Many girls don't know which way is the right way. They're human too, they could easily fall prey to this low-hanging fruit temptation the same as us, and not realise what will unfold further down the road. In that situation, someone has to keep a level head and point to the right direction no matter how much it hurts.
I DATE them for 1 hour
I DATY them for 5 minutes
You don't pay a hooker to stay. You pay them to leave.
You know Thai Alin from Ginza. I've always wondered, is she married to a punter or someone who didn't know what she was doing before. I've always been curious since she left the industry.
If the husband knew would he be paranoid about her returning if he can't satisfy her financial needs?
These girls have sex for jobs, but they're people too. Most of them are single and can get lonely, so it's not unusual for them to seek companionship outside the shop. Since they meet a lot of guys through work, it's also not a surprise that they will date guys who are willing to do so.
I dated a girl, was the most normal relationship I ever had. She didn't ask for money or visa, basically didn't ask for anything. We dated and of course I would pay for dinner like a typical guy would but it was just your normal restaurants, we didn't ever go to expensive fine dining. She would pay for deserts after or sometimes shout me lunch if we meet during my lunch break at work. She actually bought me a ton of little gifts throughout the relationship, I think it's cultural.
There is a few things to consider, are you on par with her in the looks department and reasonably compatible age and have legit chemistry? Would it be normal to pick up a girl like this had you met outside and do you look like a real couple?
Imo skepticism would increase as my unlikeliness to pull a girl like this increases, and of course on this forums we would have older out of shape guys or just unattractive guys making artificial connections with good looking girls through punting which they wouldn't have done outside. While I agree no doubt a legit relationship is an edge case but its very far from impossible and its this small percentage that messes with every guys head.
I've also met girls who returned to the industry after leaving for one of their customers only to hear of stories how they got played or he was a dead beat and she spent all her money on him, in this instance the girl is the victim who had good intentions.
Once in this industry, that's it I reckon. Too easy for girls to go back for easy cash when there's financial issues. No matter how good their relationship is.
Same goe for us punters, once a punter, always a punter.
It's just as easy to have a punt when things get boring, stress relief or just out of frustration.
Hopefully some come out of a WL life unscathed, but I suspect the majority that are in the game for a length of time likely pay a price, mentally and/or physically.
We all know it's the oldest profession and definitely pays better than Coles and some girls enter the game under difficult circumstances, but it still surprises me that many take it on.
Imagine lining up to fuk and suk 10 strange guys a night of varying "quality" 3 nights a week.
Sure, they have their coping mechanisms and some just plain like sex, but we've all met those WLs who you wonder why and how?