Reply With QuoteThis one has!Originally Posted by icecream
They are now investigating the back ground of all the passenger to see if anyone has bought a massive amount of insurance ! Like the first airport movie !!
Do you guys know if all the luggages are going through X-ray scanning before loaded on to the plane ??
The Malaysian military also said they have data showing the plane was turning west and flying at a lower altitude of 11,000 ft just before disappearing off the radar !
For the sake of all the passengers onboard, lets hope the plane was hijacked and landed on an unknown airport somewhere - but they need an airport large enough to land a Boeing 777! and not known to the whole world, that's again almost impossible !
Very sad!
This one has!
Yes it possible if they landed somewhere, I heard that some of the families try to call and the phone is ringing.
As reported by ABC:
What could have happened to the plane?
Malaysian civil aviation chief Azharuddin Abdul Rahman says officials are not ruling out any possibility, including hijacking.
John Goglia, a former board member of the US agency that investigates plane crashes, says the lack of a distress call suggests the plane either experienced an explosive decompression or was destroyed by an explosive device.
"It had to be quick because there was no communication," Mr Goglia said.
Geoffrey Thomas, the editor of airlineratings.com, told 7.30: "There are not very many options here as to what could've happened. It's either a bomb or it's a structural failure."
A source involved in the investigations in Malaysia told Reuters the fact no debris had been found "appears to indicate that the aircraft is likely to have disintegrated at around 35,000 feet".
The source said that if the plane had plunged intact from close to its cruising altitude, breaking up only on impact with the water, search teams would have expected to find a fairly concentrated pattern of debris.
Asked about the possibility of an explosion, such as a bomb, the source said there was no evidence yet of foul play and that the aircraft could have broken up due to mechanical causes.
Jason Middleton, the head of the School of Aviation at the University of New South Wales, spells out the possible causes as follows:
1.Weather and environment – very unlikely, as the weather seemed benign. Space junk or asteroid strike are also very remote possibilities.
2.Pilot error – very unlikely in cruise unless some serious malfunctions occurred (although that was what happened to Air France flight AF447)
3.Technical failures – probably more likely than 1 or 2
4.Illegal interference – probably more likely than 1 or 2
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As reported by ABC :
How can a modern plane just disappear?
Aviation lawyer and former Inspector General of the US Department of Transportation Mary Schiavo says it is very unusual that a Boeing 777 would just disappear without a hint of what went wrong.
"This is a great plane," she said. "The 777 is very much like the Airbus 340 in that the plane itself gives off information and they're called system status checks and the plane sends this information back to the airline's base all the time.
"It's kind of like the plane taking its own temperature. But here, at least according to reports so far, there was no information. And that's very odd because this is a very sophisticated plane and it has triple redundancies. It doesn't have just one radio or two, it doesn't have one set of wiring, it has lots of redundancies.
"So whatever made it impossible to transmit was a pretty significant event, because otherwise there would be transmissions and of course there was no - or at least according to what we've heard so far - no mayday call. And it doesn't have to be a radio call. There are transponder codes - they call it squawking transponder codes - and you can also put it through a computer system called an ACARS."
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As reported by CNN:
(CNN) -- A Boeing 777, one of the world's most reliable types of airliners, is missing, and no one knows why. Was it a bomb? Mechanical failure? A hijacking gone awry? Pilots and others in the aviation community are deeply disturbed by the mystery surrounding Malaysia Airlines Flight 370.
It disappeared Saturday en route from Kuala Lumpur to Beijing over the Gulf of Thailand, somewhere between Malaysia and Vietnam. It's hard to believe that such huge questions remain four days after the Boeing 777-200ER went missing, carrying 227 passengers and 12 crew members.
A revelation Tuesday set off a fresh wave of speculation. Radar tracking detected the plane hundreds of miles off course, traveling in the opposite direction from its original destination, a senior Malaysian Air Force official told CNN. The aircraft had stopped sending identifying transponder codes before it disappeared, the official said.
The new details marked a dramatic twist in the investigation. But some reports have quoted other Malaysian authorities offering conflicting information, with some denying the military official's claim.
What can cause an airplane to disappear?
Search underway for missing Flight 370
Authorities 'puzzled' by missing flight
Search area for missing plane widens The situation is so unprecedented that experts have been careful in speculating about possible explanations.
Here are four scenarios they're talking about, and the related facts:
1. Scenario: Mechanical failure?
Fact: The absence of a debris field suggests the possibility that pilots were forced to ditch the plane and it landed on water without breaking up, finally sinking to the ocean floor.
Analysis: But if that were the case, then why no emergency signal? These planes are able to perform a "miracle on the Hudson" maneuver. They have the ability to glide more than 100 miles and belly land on the water with both engines out, says former 777 pilot Keith Wolzinger, now a civil aviation consultant with The Spectrum Group. During the time it would take for a plane to glide 100 miles, it seems likely that pilots would be able to send an SOS.
Fact: Air traffic controllers in Subang, outside Kuala Lumpur, lost contact with the plane over the sea between Malaysia and Vietnam. A senior Malaysian Air Force official said Tuesday that radar tracking detected the flight an hour and 10 minutes later over the very small island of Pulau Perak, in the Strait of Malacca. This is hundreds of miles off course, traveling in the opposite direction from its original destination. Other Malaysian authorities have reportedly denied the military official's claim.
Analysis: If the plane did indeed change course and fly for more than an hour, an electrical problem on the plane could explain that, some experts say.
"Perhaps there was a power problem, and then there's a backup power system. That backup power system is designed to last about an hour. It's natural for the pilot, in my view, to return to where he knows, the airports and a region he knows," said Kit Darby, an aviation consultant and former United Airlines captain. "So turning around makes sense, and about an hour later, the airplane could become unflyable."
Fact: The missing plane had suffered a clipped wing tip in the past, but Boeing repaired it, and the jet was safe to fly, said Malaysia Airlines CEO Ahmad Jauhari Yahya on Sunday.
Analysis: "Anytime there's been previous damage to an airplane, even though it's been repaired, and repaired within standards ... it kind of sends a warning flag," says Wolzinger. Experts agree the Boeing 777 is one of the world's most reliable aircraft. During its development it was subject to some of the most rigorous testing in commercial aviation history. "I've been talking with colleagues," Wolzinger says. "We're all baffled by this." The 777 boasts some of the most powerful and well-tested engines in the world, he says. "The reliability of airliner engines in general is impeccable these days," he says. "This is a safe plane."
Looking for a needle in a haystack
2. Scenario: Hijacking?
Fact: Before it disappeared, radar data indicated the plane may have turned around to head back to Kuala Lumpur. Is that a clue that a hijacker had ordered the plane to change course?
Analysis: So far, there have been no reports that the flight crew sent any signals that a hijacking had occurred.
Some experts say that could have been deliberate. Others say a mechanical failure could have been what stopped the pilots from reporting a problem.
Fact: The plane had stopped sending identifying transponder codes before it disappeared.
Analysis: "Given that this airplane has so many redundant electrical systems on it, my first reaction would be that somebody...purposely turned it off," said John Goglia, a former U.S. National Transportation Safety Board member. "A pilot would not do that. Somebody that didn't want to be seen very well would do that."
John Ransom, a retired commercial pilot and safety consultant, said the situation sounds fishy.
"This was a fairly modern airplane with a bunch of capability to communicate with the outside world. A lot of data transmissions from the airplane," he said. "For them to all stop at the same time would take the work of somebody who has actually studied the systems in some detail to know how to turn off all of the systems at the same time."
Turning off a transponder is a "deliberate process," said Peter Goelz, a former NTSB managing director.
"If someone did that in the cockpit," he said, "they were doing it to disguise the route of the plane."
Was someone unauthorized inside the cockpit, ordering the transponders to be turned off and the plane to be turned around? Or, he said, "Did one of the pilots do it themselves?"
3. Scenario: Pilot error
Fact: So far, there are no known indications that pilot error contributed to the aircraft going missing.
Analysis: Some aviation experts have compared Flight 370 to the crash of Air France Flight 447 in 2009. All 228 passengers and crew died when the plane went down in a storm in the Atlantic en route from Brazil to Paris. After an expensive, nearly two-year search across the deep ocean floor, the twin-engine Airbus A330's wreckage was finally found and the voice and data recorders recovered. A French investigation blamed flight crew for failing to understand "they were in a stall situation and therefore never undertook any recovery maneuvers." But unlike Flight 447, weather was reported as good along Flight 370's scheduled route and didn't appear to present a threat.
Asiana Airlines Flight 217 -- a Boeing 777 -- fell short during a runway approach last July at San Francisco International Airport. Three people were killed and more than 180 others hurt. National Transportation Safety Board investigators have focused on pilot reliance on automated flight systems as a possible contributor to the crash, but a final report has not yet been released.
4. Scenario: Terrorist attack?
Fact: Two stolen passports have been linked to people who held tickets for the flight. Interpol identified the men using the stolen passports as Pouri Nourmohammadi, 18, and Delavar Seyed Mohammad Reza, 29, both Iranians. Malaysian police believe Nourmohammadi was trying to emigrate to Germany using the stolen Austrian passport.
Analysis: Malaysian investigators say there's no evidence to suggest either person traveling with a stolen passport was connected to any terrorist organizations. Interpol has a similar take. "The more information we get, the more we're inclined to conclude that it was not a terrorist incident," Interpol Secretary General Ronald Noble said.
But some experts have questioned whether the use of the stolen passports suggests problems with the security screening for the flight.
And CIA Director John Brennan said his agency is not yet willing to discount the possibility of a terror link in what he called a "very disturbing" mystery. "No, we're not ruling it out. Not at all," he said Tuesday.
Fact: No one has claimed credit for any terrorist act tied with the plane's disappearance.
Analysis: But terrorism still can't be ruled out, said Shawn Henry, former executive assistant director of the FBI. "There might be another reason for them not coming forward at this point," he said. "If it was a terrorist incident...if this was part of a much larger or broader potential act, and for whatever reason, they wouldn't come forward at this point, but at a later time."
Fact: So far, no debris field of plane wreckage has been linked to the 777, which would indicate a bomb blast.
Analysis: When Robert Francis, former vice chairman of the U.S. National Transportation Safety Board, heard about the missing plane, his immediate thought was: "For some reason the aircraft blew up and there was no signal, there was nothing." The fact that the plane disappeared from radar without warning indicated to Francis "there was something unprecedented that hasn't happened before."
What about satellite technology? Is it possible that data from orbiting satellites might show a flash or infrared heat signature from an explosion? Very unlikely, says satellite expert Brian Weeden, who spent years tracking space junk in orbit for the U.S. Air Force. Dozens of government and private satellites orbit the earth, looking down from distances from 300 kilometers to 1,500 kilometers (185 to 930 miles). It's a long shot that one of them coincidentally floated over at the exact right time and location to capture a flash from an explosion.
However, there's an "off chance," Weeden says, that a super-secret U.S. government satellite orbiting 22,000 miles in space might have grabbed evidence. These satellites are in geosynchronous orbit. As a group, they can observe virtually the entire globe. "We know that their mission is to detect ballistic missile launches via heat," says Weeden, now a technical adviser for Secure World Foundation. "We don't know if they're sensitive enough to track something like a bomb blast, even if that's what happened."
Then there's another unanswerable question: Would the government hesitate to release such an image for fear of revealing the satellite system's ultraclassified capability?
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This incident would be a whole lot less confusing if the Malaysian government would authorise just one or two people to speak to the media. It seems any military mug with stars on his chest wants to put his theory or half/ truth to camera before anyone has had a chance to verify it.
The gullible media assume, because he a general ( or whatever) he must be right, when he may well be just speculating.
The media is too quick to jump on reports. Today it was everywhere that military radar showed the plane was way off course
Then later today the military spokesman denied stating this!
What I cant understand is how come none of the emergency beacons have activated the ones in the black boxes activate automatically?
Tonight on 7 at 8.30pm there a special news, they examine all the evidence in an attempt to unravel this ongoing mystery.
I think I will watch it.
Most likely they have activated.
But... depending on where the plane crashed, there is anywhere between 100 meters to 5 km (if on south china sea) water.
From 100 m the signal will be very week (you have to be right on top of it), from 5 km it will never be found (and even if found, the box will never be retrieved).
The black box does send out a signal but it is very weak so you have to be within the area to pick up its signal
It's a very sad thought, but someone mentioned to me that it could have been
blown up by the Chinese government to bring about their own 9/11 so to speak. If so,
The Chinese government can now go after anyone they want and anywhere, right?
Not sure what you're suggesting exactly but I do think theres a good chance the uyghur are responsible for this. A hikacking perhaps or some sort of terrorist plot.
Another day and still nothing
For those who are very interested in this see the following page. Apparently industry experts and pilots post here so it gets quite technical at times
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...-lost-158.html
No need to look at anything else!
According to Magic Toad, the Chinese did it !!
We need more coconuts for 'Bomoh' so the wait could be sooner in finding the missing plane.
Its been a week now and still nothing concrete
I wouldn't say I am obsessed with this story but I do find myself waking up each day and checking the news first thing hoping something is found.
The Americans are now helping to search the Indian Ocean !!
The Captain is a Muslim, and if he was heading west - on his own will or under hijacking..............., and all the beacon signals onboard seemed to be manually turned off..............??
They have decided it was a hijacking so now we await the report when they finally find the aircraft lets hope its soon for all concerned!
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