Open a massage parlour

[Bunty4]

Does anyone have a guide to opening a shop? What are upfront cost involved and what legal process needs to be followed. I have done my research online but nothing much has come of it.

[aussiegaigin]

I'm sure this topic has been discussed here at least once in the last 15 months since you joined.

The processes and costs are much the same as opening any business. Quality image costs. So many variables in costs, if you don't understand this principle, maybe you should forget about it.

The biggest specific hurdles might be changing the existing use of premises:
1. getting the owner's approval to use as massage shop (had 3 knock backs recently on a project I looked at for an aspiring ML)
2. getting a council DA if you are changing the existing use of the premises.

[drifter]

Besides the cost involved I think there is also an extended background check.

[aussiegaigin]

The property owner is going to want to know your financial arrangements; the council may want evidence of your qualifications for the business.

[B J Hunter]

Bunty... why the hassle of a shop. Don’t wait for the punters to come to you, go to the punters my friend with the Rub&Tug Express. Buy an unused tour bus and kit it out just like the shop. Bring us a line up on wheels. Being a forum guy you know exactly what we want from our girls so there’ll never be a complaint right!
On time and on top... the R&T express cumming soon to town near you!

[trampslikeus55]

That gives a whole new meaning to "she"ll be coming round the mountain when she comes"😁😁

[17012430]

If you’re not sure how to do it, stay out of the game. Market already saturated and most of the well known shops are struggling right now. On top of that, no new girls coming in to the country, where will you find staff?

[woods23]

I think his asking for regular ml !
Maybe a thai haha

[Bunty4]

I'm sure this topic has been discussed here at least once in the last 15 months since you joined.

The processes and costs are much the same as opening any business. Quality image costs. So many variables in costs, if you don't understand this principle, maybe you should forget about it.

The biggest specific hurdles might be changing the existing use of premises:
1. getting the owner's approval to use as massage shop (had 3 knock backs recently on a project I looked at for an aspiring ML)
2. getting a council DA if you are changing the existing use of the premises.

Yes I agree that there was some discussion on the topic...but they were not serious. I am going to give this a good go before I give up. Thanks for the info on knock backs...this one will be a challenge.

[Bunty4]

The property owner is going to want to know your financial arrangements; the council may want evidence of your qualifications for the business.
Both are in place.

[Bunty4]

Bunty... why the hassle of a shop. Don’t wait for the punters to come to you, go to the punters my friend with the Rub&Tug Express. Buy an unused tour bus and kit it out just like the shop. Bring us a line up on wheels. Being a forum guy you know exactly what we want from our girls so there’ll never be a complaint right!
On time and on top... the R&T express cumming soon to town near you!

That is Logistics heavy operation model...and this model is also termed as escort service. So I have been beaten on that front by a few centuries 🤪.

[Bunty4]

If you’re not sure how to do it, stay out of the game. Market already saturated and most of the well known shops are struggling right now. On top of that, no new girls coming in to the country, where will you find staff?

Finding staff is least of the worries. And you know if it's a well run shop business is garunteed. In fact post covid business has been great ...we will have to check what happens when free money in job keeper goes away.

[Bunty4]

I think his asking for regular ml !
Maybe a thai haha

Thai is a fetish for me....but for business there is a mix bag that is needed😁😁. I will advertise on forum if I get anything setup.

[liminal]

have you ever operated a small business before?

Have you ever operated a successful small business before?

Have you Operated a successful small business working in the Services and/or hospitality sector?

Will you be papasan/ manager and operating reception seven days a week or are you relliant upon other staff to do this for you

What will be the point of difference that you can offer that other established businesses not currently catering for or, catering well?

Do you have the capital to do an appropriate level of fit out if required?

And operational funds available To maintain business operations when you are making losses over many successive weeks.

Do you really have solid industry contacts with staff, who are prepared to not only try to work at the shop but remain steadfast true and loyal?

Are you technically proficient at massage

If you were really serious, youd be talking to an accountant and/or business consultant.

PS , QVB, with Nicole and Vicki to industry legends, now running a shop that is themselves and one other woman on roster if it’s that easy, why don’t they have three or four girls on each day?

[Bunty4]

have you ever operated a small business before?

Have you ever operated a successful small business before?

Have you Operated a successful small business working in the Services and/or hospitality sector?

Will you be papasan/ manager and operating reception seven days a week or are you relliant upon other staff to do this for you

What will be the point of difference that you can offer that other established businesses not currently catering for or, catering well?

Do you have the capital to do an appropriate level of fit out if required?

And operational funds available To maintain business operations when you are making losses over many successive weeks.

Do you really have solid industry contacts with staff, who are prepared to not only try to work at the shop but remain steadfast true and loyal?

Are you technically proficient at massage

If you were really serious, youd be talking to an accountant and/or business consultant.

PS , QVB, with Nicole and Vicki to industry legends, now running a shop that is themselves and one other woman on roster if it’s that easy, why don’t they have three or four girls on each day?

All good points...and homeworks done on that front...thanks. love the check list.

[liminal]

All good points...and homeworks done on that front...thanks. love the check list.


Are you saying yes to all of the above? Or you saying you’ve done due diligence and your homework… Anyway I’ll go back to think about opening up my gelato cart

[17012430]

PS , QVB, with Nicole and Vicki to industry legends, now running a shop that is themselves and one other woman on roster if it’s that easy, why don’t they have three or four girls on each day?

exactly my point earlier. The borders are closed. We are stuck with the WL and ML we have now for the foreseeable future. The more shops that open only means the lineups get thinned out more and more

[AHLUNGOR]

The problem with QVB’s current state of business level is three folds:

1. The CBD is half dead because many people are working from home.

2. They used to get lots of walk in from tourists both interstate and overseas, now they have none.

3. Lack of new talents which has already been brought up.

I think with just the two Mamasan working, they can still make a living. Cherry 🍒 on Friday has her own client base, yours truly included. So Cherry 🍒 is fine just to work there one day a week to entertain her regulars. But if they put another girl on, then there’s not enough punters at that section of town to support 3 mls a day.

Just my two cents.

[Bunty4]

Are you saying yes to all of the above? Or you saying you’ve done due diligence and your homework… Anyway I’ll go back to think about opening up my gelato cart
Done my homework on above points....I am not aware of how or when to approach council for permission. In process of getting those details.

[aussiegaigin]

Done my homework on above points....I am not aware of how or when to approach council for permission. In process of getting those details.

As you seem to have all the answers, makes us wonder why you asked the question in the first place LOL

[Discotech]

200-202 Harris Street is up for lease and already DA Approved. You would need some significant capital and collateral to get approved though not sure what your financial situation is like but you may want to look at that.

Just give it a red hot go mate, I quit my 9 to 5 to start my business two years ago with many naysayers thinking it was a bad idea but here I am earning more than double-triple what I used to.

[Bunty4]

200-202 Harris Street is up for lease and already DA Approved. You would need some significant capital and collateral to get approved though not sure what your financial situation is like but you may want to look at that.

Just give it a red hot go mate, I quit my 9 to 5 to start my business two years ago with many naysayers thinking it was a bad idea but here I am earning more than double-triple what I used to.

Good on you mate....thanks for update. Will check.

[Bunty4]

As you seem to have all the answers, makes us wonder why you asked the question in the first place LOL

Mate if I had answers I would not ask....I don't know how council approval work for Massage shops. Anything to do with legal and government is tough ask....rest is simple.

[aussiegaigin]

It's not really tough, you just gotta ask them. Or just lodge the DA application and see how they respond.

[liminal]

Lodgement is the simple aspect of all of this irrespective of future approvals.

So Bunty4 just grab a BIC and fill in the docs .What’s the lodgement fee?

If everything resolved, numbers clarified capital in place.. What you waiting for ?

however check me . Did you say before the premises was already approved and building owner onboard ?? Or just owner?

So as you might be trying to offer a unique experience with quality mis en scene, to attract the erudite punter and pique and keep interest of the top echelon SYDNEY ML’s , .... guessing you may have to do fit out - just whipping out my... oh fuk me abacus, as I remember my QS from previous design days

I’m hoping the bones of a fit out prevails or you got good tradie mates and a flair for haute couture boudoir burlesque design

Good on you discotech for launching what appears to be a successful sole trader? Or small biz operation. I’m guessing it’s in an industry that you’d worked at for more than 5 years ? Possibly even developed solid industry supplier networks and had a sharp idea of who your customer was, is, are to be ?

Perhaps you work in a unique sector offering niche specialist services ?

It’s tough in good times and the real numbers of (any) businesses succeeding beyond 2 years, poor

Opening a RNT/brothel from scratch in today’s market unless you got the Midas touch, lots of luck and you don’t have a day job and your partner , family (kids?) got no issue with your adventure.. tally ho

As it appears you got a business plan and you are an experienced, capitalised small business owner ... Please Advise on when the high tea cabaret rnt venue opens

If you are looking to crowd fund the venture please post link

Good luck sir

[Bunty4]

Lodgement is the simple aspect of all of this irrespective of future approvals.

So Bunty4 just grab a BIC and fill in the docs .What’s the lodgement fee?

If everything resolved, numbers clarified capital in place.. What you waiting for ?

however check me . Did you say before the premises was already approved and building owner onboard ?? Or just owner?

So as you might be trying to offer a unique experience with quality mis en scene, to attract the erudite punter and pique and keep interest of the top echelon SYDNEY ML’s , .... guessing you may have to do fit out - just whipping out my... oh fuk me abacus, as I remember my QS from previous design days

I’m hoping the bones of a fit out prevails or you got good tradie mates and a flair for haute couture boudoir burlesque design

Good on you discotech for launching what appears to be a successful sole trader? Or small biz operation. I’m guessing it’s in an industry that you’d worked at for more than 5 years ? Possibly even developed solid industry supplier networks and had a sharp idea of who your customer was, is, are to be ?

Perhaps you work in a unique sector offering niche specialist services ?

It’s tough in good times and the real numbers of (any) businesses succeeding beyond 2 years, poor

Opening a RNT/brothel from scratch in today’s market unless you got the Midas touch, lots of luck and you don’t have a day job and your partner , family (kids?) got no issue with your adventure.. tally ho

As it appears you got a business plan and you are an experienced, capitalised small business owner ... Please Advise on when the high tea cabaret rnt venue opens

If you are looking to crowd fund the venture please post link

Good luck sir

Thank you...I will keep you posted as and when project materialises.

[Bunty4]

Oh my god... 4 more new places opening in Parramatta.....all existing business are doing very well, insider business news, ....if covid has done one thing good, it's got RnT business a shot in d***.😁.

Start looking for venues again....

[liminal]

Oh my god... 4 more new places opening in Parramatta.....all existing business are doing very well, insider business news, ....if covid has done one thing good, it's got RnT business a shot in d***.😁.

Start looking for venues again....

4 shops opening .. oh my god ...alone it is a metric of no value.

Perhaps break it down more.. can you ?

Mr Bunty sir, your undaunted enthusiasm is clear to all.

As you have my interest and others .. to a point.

Perhaps share a little more about your recipe for success. we were asked questions from you, however you have not offered much in return.

Btw I think if anything you could sell post opening a diy tell all “how to open and run a massage parlour without going broke in the first 100 days”

[Bunty4]

4 shops opening .. oh my god ...alone it is a metric of no value.

Perhaps break it down more.. can you ?

Mr Bunty sir, your undaunted enthusiasm is clear to all.

As you have my interest and others .. to a point.

Perhaps share a little more about your recipe for success. we were asked questions from you, however you have not offered much in return.

Btw I think if anything you could sell post opening a diy tell all “how to open and run a massage parlour without going broke in the first 100 days”

I would love to ...but my USP is not something I can share yet. If I get I's dotted and T's crossed, I can promise it would be a top run business. 4 news ones are from existing owners in western region. One is a girl who was very recently retired as ML....I don't know her shop location yet , only thing I know is it's in Parra.

[GallBall2203]

What sort of license is required to run a joint?

[aussiegaigin]

What sort of "joint"?

[liminal]

I would love to ...but my USP is not something I can share yet. If I get I's dotted and T's crossed, I can promise it would be a top run business. 4 news ones are from existing owners in western region. One is a girl who was very recently retired as ML....I don't know her shop location yet , only thing I know is it's in Parra.

So it appears there may be a 5th top notch top tier Blk label edition shop in the coming months

Have you downloaded the council docs ?

[Bunty4]

So it appears there may be a 5th top notch top tier Blk label edition shop in the coming months

Have you downloaded the council docs ?
Got a lawyer...

[liminal]

Got a lawyer...

Good man, legal advice while appearing costly , important. Seems you’re making progress

[liminal]

What sort of license is required to run a joint?

Opening any business is relatively straightforward , simple . There are guidelines.

Opening a basic Low Cost low frill mediocre thrill RNT masquerading as a massage service provider also simple.

Running a RNT simple.

Owning operating a successful multi year business not simple.

https://www.discovermassage.com.au/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-setting-up-a-massage-business/

[Bunty4]

Opening any business is relatively straightforward , simple . There are guidelines.

Opening a basic Low Cost low frill mediocre thrill RNT masquerading as a massage service provider also simple.

Running a RNT simple.

Owning operating a successful multi year business not simple.

https://www.discovermassage.com.au/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-setting-up-a-massage-business/

You are a good man...thanks for the link.

[liminal]

You are a good man...thanks for the link.

Ho hum

Mr Bunty have you factored this adventure of yours into your yearly punt budget or intending to amortise it over the next 5-10 years ?

Please don’t tell us you intend to train all the new fresh of the boat ML’s and have your bevy of busty burlesque beauties on call at whim?

[Bunty4]

Ho hum

Mr Bunty have you factored this adventure of yours into your yearly punt budget or intending to amortise it over the next 5-10 years ?

Please don’t tell us you intend to train all the new fresh of the boat ML’s and have your bevy of busty burlesque beauties on call at whim?
Never mix business and pleasure.

[xconcepx]

Never mix business and pleasure.

Hey mate. I was also interested in opening one as well. PM and we can discuss.

[Louisa18ChardRoad]

Just my 2 cents as a working girl.
I’ve thought about opening an establishment (and have been asked to do so by girls, and also staff) - HOWEVER I have seen how much work it entails. And this is from someone who has owned and operated my own businesses (not adult related).

So instead I’m looking at setting up a site like the one I used in the Uk which is fantastic. Its a one stop shop for EVERYTHING- even for ladies looking for premises to rent by the hour, sell vids, calls as well as obviously private services.
There is nothing like it here.
Site for reference - https://www.adultwork.com/iOS/?SO=1

[Bunty4]

Just my 2 cents as a working girl.
I’ve thought about opening an establishment (and have been asked to do so by girls, and also staff) - HOWEVER I have seen how much work it entails. And this is from someone who has owned and operated my own businesses (not adult related).

So instead I’m looking at setting up a site like the one I used in the Uk which is fantastic. Its a one stop shop for EVERYTHING- even for ladies looking for premises to rent by the hour, sell vids, calls as well as obviously private services.
There is nothing like it here.
Site for reference - https://www.adultwork.com/iOS/?SO=1

Appreciate your insights. Premise is the only current challenge from where I am at.

[liminal]

Appreciate your insights. Premise is the only current challenge from where I am at.

I can help you out with that sport . Get in contact

[Scanlan]

So this is every man's fantasy ?
I guess it would be to get a do over ?
Would it be okay to exempt the sex stuff ?
No No all men would like this .
This would be a challenge. And i would reject it.

[Bunty4]

I can help you out with that sport . Get in contact

@limilal - your mail box is full....

[liminal]

Cleared.............

[Raybo]

@limilal - your mail box is full....

lol, says to get in contact here and doesn't understand the 200 message rule, yet wants to spruik real estate, the way to conduct an RnT business. Good luck to the both of you.

[bevis90]

Your best chances are taking over a massage place, take the ml and go along with it. You are the new owner the old owner prob has approval for most things. Go find an existing massage premise , rename your shop and go market it

Good luck !

[liminal]

lol, says to get in contact here and doesn't understand the 200 message rule, yet wants to spruik real estate, the way to conduct an RnT business. Good luck to the both of you.

I fail to see any of the relationships nor conclusion you seem to bring, I do however much mirth hilarity wonderment

Carry on with your spruiking sir, Perhaps you get the “little missus to attend to the little things in life , such as emptying your inbox.

😊

[greenpuntman]

This sounds like a disaster waiting to happen!! lol
Should never get too close to a working lady. I seen many people fall into the trap of wanting to be the knight in shining armour - never works out well. The best way to support them is to just go see them more and just give em an extra tip

[Nthnrr]

I see Pyrmont Star Massage is up for sale. No price given.

[asiafever]

When taking over another business you have to ask 1. Why are they selling? 2. What makes me think I can do it better? Some locations are just dogs and should be avoided, sometimes there are legitimate reasons for a sale, or a business is saveable because of poor management etc, but often you are buying someone else's problems. In massage I would imagine goodwill is the only tangible asset other than a bit of furniture etc unless there is a DA as well, and there are absolutely no guarantees that a single customer, or popular girl, will stay with a change of ownership. The books I would imagine would be fairly unreliable, ask to see their bookings sheets for the past X months as well as accounts, though allow for a reasonable amount of creativity on their behalf with the numbers in both.
Starting up on your own is certainly more time consuming and a harder slog but in the long run if you've done your homework on location, fit outs, recruiting etc I think it would be more rewarding. That's just me though. Plenty have taken over struggling businesses and turned them in to goldmines.
Good luck and happy to help anyone needing to bounce ideas off a punters head.

[AHLUNGOR]

When taking over another business you have to ask 1. Why are they selling? 2. What makes me think I can do it better? Some locations are just dogs and should be avoided, sometimes there are legitimate reasons for a sale, or a business is saveable because of poor management etc, but often you are buying someone else's problems. In massage I would imagine goodwill is the only tangible asset other than a bit of furniture etc unless there is a DA as well, and there are absolutely no guarantees that a single customer, or popular girl, will stay with a change of ownership. The books I would imagine would be fairly unreliable, ask to see their bookings sheets for the past X months as well as accounts, though allow for a reasonable amount of creativity on their behalf with the numbers in both.
Starting up on your own is certainly more time consuming and a harder slog but in the long run if you've done your homework on location, fit outs, recruiting etc I think it would be more rewarding. That's just me though. Plenty have taken over struggling businesses and turned them in to goldmines.
Good luck and happy to help anyone needing to bounce ideas off a punters head.


Excellent points, I may just add one of the reason for selling could be due to Council problem , if so, it’s a landmine waiting to explode !

Then again, well established shops with good returns and regular clients base, it would be a goldmine and bet it would be priced accordingly!

Taking over a Thai or previously legit shop and turn it into a pleasure palace could pay back for your hard earn and hard works ?

Then of course, don’t forget to advertise in all the right places ......... haha

[hexenducation]

Open a massage parlour? Don't, just don't. Too many already. Some don't make enough money to make rent. Behind every slow massage shop is a punter in love subsidising the rent.

[asiafever]

Excellent points, I may just add one of the reason for selling could be due to Council problem , if so, it’s a landmine waiting to explode !

Then again, well established shops with good returns and regular clients base, it would be a goldmine and bet it would be priced accordingly!

Taking over a Thai or previously legit shop and turn it into a pleasure palace could pay back for your hard earn and hard works ?

Then of course, don’t forget to advertise in all the right places ......... haha

Yep all good points, especially about being hassled by council, not information they would freely disclose.

[asiafever]

Open a massage parlour? Don't, just don't. Too many already. Some don't make enough money to make rent. Behind every slow massage punter is a punter in love subsidising the rent.

Haha so true. I subsidised rent somewhere for a while for sure.

[doyouseewhatisee]

She wants $70k ... I almost died laughing

I see Pyrmont Star Massage is up for sale. No price given.

[hexenducation]

She wants $70k ... I almost died laughing

If it’s a busy shop with good fittings then not too much... 2-3 times annual profit plus fittings... with a reduction for risk... in the ball park... but I mean to say every premises that doesn’t have a DA for sex work and be in the right council zone is unlawful and able to be shut down by the council if they have cause, or worse, attract the attention of the police or local spivs... and don’t get me started on trading hours or drugs and alcohol on the premises... lease term must at least match the valuation multiple... lease extension options very desirable... if the lease can be simply transferred to a new lessee and not needing to be renegotiated with the lessor then all the better... retail businesses are only as good as the lease they hold... finally, an earn out, while a must for the purchaser it’s always hard to get from the vendor...

[katherine jack]

Opening any business is relatively straightforward , simple . There are guidelines.

Opening a basic Low Cost low frill mediocre thrill RNT masquerading as a massage service provider also simple.

Running a RNT simple.

Owning operating a successful multi year business not simple.

https://www.discovermassage.com.au/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-setting-up-a-massage-business/



Thanks for The link. Here also i have another link which is related to deep tissue massage. A deep tissue massage targets deep layers of muscle and the surrounding tissues. People may choose this type of massage to treat sports injuries or chronic pain.

Deep tissue massage is a massage technique that’s mainly used to treat musculoskeletal issues, such as strains and sports injuries. It involves applying sustained pressure using slow, deep strokes to target the inner layers of your muscles and connective tissues.

This helps to break up scar tissue that forms following an injury and reduce tension in muscle and tissue.

It may also promote faster healing by increasing blood flow and reducing inflammation.

Read on to learn more about deep tissue massage, including how it stacks up against Swedish massage and what to expect during a session.

Deep tissue massage therapy isn’t just a Swedish massage with deeper strokes or harder pressure. Deep tissue massages use firm pressure and slow stroked to massage deep layers of muscle and fascia, which is the connective tissue that surrounds your muscles.

Deep tissue massages are used to break up scar tissue and break down muscle adhesions (the “knots” that we feel in our muscles are muscle adhesions, which are bands of rigid and painful muscle tissue). These knots can inhibit our circulation and cause pain and inflammation.

When the massage begins, your massage therapist usually starts with lighter pressure to warm up your muscles and then works into deeper pressure.

The common techniques used in deep tissue massage therapy include stripping, which is deep pressure that glides along the length of your muscle fibers and friction, which applies pressure across the grain of your muscle to break up adhesions and align tissue fibers.

https://www.ashiatsumassagelondon.com/

[katherine jack]

Deep tissue massage therapy isn’t just a Swedish massage with deeper strokes or harder pressure. Deep tissue massages use firm pressure and slow stroked to massage deep layers of muscle and fascia, which is the connective tissue that surrounds your muscles. Visit here https://www.ashiatsumassagelondon.com/.

Deep tissue massages are used to break up scar tissue and break down muscle adhesions (the “knots” that we feel in our muscles are muscle adhesions, which are bands of rigid and painful muscle tissue). These knots can inhibit our circulation and cause pain and inflammation.

When the massage begins, your massage therapist usually starts with lighter pressure to warm up your muscles and then works into deeper pressure.

The common techniques used in deep tissue massage therapy include stripping, which is deep pressure that glides along the length of your muscle fibers and friction, which applies pressure across the grain of your muscle to break up adhesions and align tissue fibers.

[cuteguy]

Open a massage parlour? Don't, just don't. Too many already. Some don't make enough money to make rent. Behind every slow massage shop is a punter in love subsidising the rent.

If there are lockdowns and pandemics then it will be a significant blow to a massage business when there is no revenue coming in. Even now, I guess some shops will be suffering because some customers wont be visiting their shops in fear of contracting the new variant.

[Fred Flintstone]

Any mug who goes on a prostitution site to ask for business advice is a fuckin’ dickhead. You should be consulting your lawyer and accountant about this, not the horny mongers here.

Besides, legitimate, tax paying, honest businessmen do not enter the flesh game. Never have and never will. RnTs are a form of prostitution. That sort of business eventually attracts all sorts of low end, bottom dwelling scumbags from the criminal world. Are you prepared to operate at that level?

[cumquat]

…….. That sort of business attracts all sorts of low end, bottom dwelling scumbags. Are you prepared to operate at that level?

That’s a very curious conclusion … are there esteem issues ?

[Fred Flintstone]

That’s a very curious conclusion … are there esteem issues ?

I meant criminal elements, not esteemed punters like you or me LOL

[Travelmate]

I meant criminal elements, not esteemed punters like you or me LOL

On 9 . . . . . . . . . . .

[cumquat]

Does anyone have a guide to opening a shop? What are upfront cost involved and what legal process needs to be followed. I have done my research online but nothing much has come of it.

Bunty dear chap , which amongst many of the esteemed venues is yours ?

You seemed so ready to take it all on … how did it go ? I certainly hope Mr Fred Flinstones argument , that you would just be another low lifer , bottom feeding scuzbag has not a shred of truth

Instead hoping you Are you rolling in tax free dollas and wondering which ML too take to bed NYE .. or?

[JohnJones]

Does anyone have a guide to opening a shop? What are upfront cost involved and what legal process needs to be followed. I have done my research online but nothing much has come of it.

Go make friends with SBM boss. I believe she helped many others open up new shops and rotate their girls into their roster to build on the franchise reputation.

Or you can run a failing shop like 227 NSM. Hire Smeagol from LOTR as your receptionist, use a photo of an ML who had left ages ago and advertise her as Malaysian Canny.

I'm beginning to wonder as well if Malaysian Ester is the same Smeagol seeing as they keep saying that both Canny & Ester always "fully booked". Thai Rosie is real & cute with a banging body but their strategy is to suddenly inform you last minute that Rosie has a "booking" that they mixed up with yours so that they can push the less popular girls onto you.

[Raybo]

Any mug who goes on a prostitution site to ask for business advice is a fuckin’ dickhead. You should be consulting your lawyer and accountant about this, not the horny mongers here.

Besides, legitimate, tax paying, honest businessmen do not enter the flesh game. Never have and never will. RnTs are a form of prostitution. That sort of business eventually attracts all sorts of low end, bottom dwelling scumbags from the criminal world. Are you prepared to operate at that level?

It's not the worst site to ask for advice of this type. I will go out on a limb and say many experienced girls that want to stop working think that owning and managing a shop is a good option. I might even know a couple of them.

[AHLUNGOR]

It's not the worst site to ask for advice of this type. I will go out on a limb and say many experienced girls that want to stop working think that owning and managing a shop is a good option. I might even know a couple of them.

Well said, as a matter of facts , most of the RnT shops are running by former MLs who had worked very hard, saved up enough money to become her own boss.

Most of them continued to work hard and earn a honest living and many successful stories among them: SL, SF, 227 Broadway, Summerville, Sussex Star and DOS, MAC to name just a few.

Cheers

[aussiegaigin]

Well said, as a matter of facts , most of the RnT shops are running by former MLs who had worked very hard, saved up enough money to become her own boss.

Most of them continued to work hard and earn a honest living and many successful stories among them: SL, SF, 227 Broadway, Summerville, Sussex Star and DOS, MAC to name just a few.

Cheers

Opening a shop on this basis is a lot different to the OP's approach of "I know nothing about the industry......"

[Labia Vortex]

Most profitable brothels own the building they operate in
Ginza owns three properties worth conservatively
$10mill… and rising
Clever people

[Double_Adapter]

Everyone seems to be highly strung and defensive - relax lads. The OP’s question was quite simple but somehow it always ends up on the brink of WW3.

How to:
https://www.discovermassage.com.au/blog/the-ultimate-guide-to-setting-up-a-massage-business/

https://get.cogsworth.com/blog/12-tips-to-start-your-own-massage-business

https://www.upflip.com/blog/how-to-start-a-massage-business

Legalities:
https://swop.org.au/resources

[cmk76]

Go make friends with SBM boss. I believe she helped many others open up new shops and rotate their girls into their roster to build on the franchise reputation.

Or you can run a failing shop like 227 NSM. Hire Smeagol from LOTR as your receptionist, use a photo of an ML who had left ages ago and advertise her as Malaysian Canny.

I'm beginning to wonder as well if Malaysian Ester is the same Smeagol seeing as they keep saying that both Canny & Ester always "fully booked". Thai Rosie is real & cute with a banging body but their strategy is to suddenly inform you last minute that Rosie has a "booking" that they mixed up with yours so that they can push the less popular girls onto you.

Ester and Canny are pretty popular with loyal regulars. They've been in the game for under and over 5 years in various shops. I don't believe Smeagol is Malaysian...

I'm sure you could get a session with Rosie from either shops you mentioned. You just have to be quick...

[Vader]

Most profitable brothels own the building they operate in
Ginza owns three properties worth conservatively
$10mill… and rising
Clever people

They don't own all their properties

[GoldfishMan]

Most profitable brothels own the building they operate in
Ginza owns three properties worth conservatively
$10mill… and rising
Clever people

Wilson is a very wise businessman without a doubt. Would be interesting to see if the craze for property is enough to overcome the stigma of living in a house that used to be a brothel, though.

[Labia Vortex]

They don't own all their properties
Don’t own as in outright or as in mortgaged..?

[Labia Vortex]

Wilson is a very wise businessman without a doubt. Would be interesting to see if the craze for property is enough to overcome the stigma of living in a house that used to be a brothel, though.

A Woman of Pleasure in the Rocks Reverted back to residential
For almost two years punters were knocking on the door at all hours

[Bunty4]

Let’s just say , I am successful and enjoy the reviews for the business… it was not complicated at all… and yes, seasoned punters are right , it’s all those wonderful smart MLs who make running shop easy… also a great rule for this business, never ever use your own business for pleasure.
There will be haters and that is their right to be miserable… let’s enjoy the moment and stay safe.

[cumquat]

Let’s just say , I am successful and enjoy the reviews for the business… it was not complicated at all… and yes, seasoned punters are right , it’s all those wonderful smart MLs who make running shop easy… also a great rule for this business, never ever use your own business for pleasure.
There will be haters and that is their right to be miserable… let’s enjoy the moment and stay safe.

And you don’t wish to share which shop ?

You do not advertise here ?

[Fred Flintstone]

When I was in primary school, the boys all wanted to be Playboy photographers, so that they could stare at naked ladies

Now it seems mongers want to own massage parlors.

[cuteguy]

Probably not the best time to be running a massage parlour with high infection rates and many girls coming down with covid19. If there are no back up staff the shop will have to close. What's next?

[storry_teller]

Hard time for small business now

[Vader]

Probably not the best time to be running a massage parlour with high infection rates and many girls coming down with covid19. If there are no back up staff the shop will have to close. What's next?

Do you really think they self isolate if positive when there are $$$ to be made?

[Climax598]

Do you really think they self isolate if positive when there are $$$ to be made?
Bring a RAT 😅 to test the girl before you receive their service.

[kiddoh]

+1 this will be way forward for all people in essential services.

Heard, that all medical staffs who are asymptomatic need to do RAT before rendering support. They are slogging without holidays with lots of stress.. Bless them !

[Vader]

Bring a RAT �� to test the girl before you receive their service.

Nearly impossible to get though plus would the girl want to test her in case it came back positive. If it got out to public all in shop would have to isolate. Not sure shop owner would be impressed.

[GoldfishMan]

Nearly impossible to get though plus would the girl want to test her in case it came back positive. If it got out to public all in shop would have to isolate. Not sure shop owner would be impressed.

Looking at the way things are going, I think pretty soon there will not be any requirement to isolate even with a positive test result in their midst. They're already scaling back the close contact definition from 1 hour to 4 hours. That pretty much means only coworkers are included as close contacts, and not even all because some part timers only work half days.

And if I wanted to be smartarse about it, there's an easy way to completely protect my business from being shutdown for iso. I'd just hire more part timers and roster them so that all of them are on slightly less than 4 hour shifts (eg. 3.5 hours each), or stagger the rosters to eliminate any chance of 1 postive case shutting down the whole operation.
These strategies were never possible before the increase of 1 hour to 4 hour to define close contact.

[cuteguy]

Do you really think they self isolate if positive when there are $$$ to be made?

You're right. If she needs money she'll probably go to work.

[Vader]

You're right. If she needs money she'll probably go to work.

Of course they would. Look how many independents and shops were operating during the lockdowns, It's all about money, nothing else.

[AHLUNGOR]

And if I wanted to be smartarse about it, there's an easy way to completely protect my business from being shutdown for iso. I'd just hire more part timers and roster them so that all of them are on slightly less than 4 hour shifts (eg. 3.5 hours each), or stagger the rosters to eliminate any chance of 1 postive case shutting down the whole operation.
These strategies were never possible before the increase of 1 hour to 4 hour to define close contact.

I don’t think this will work brother GFM,

There is a clear shortage of labour right now in Sydney. Many business especially in the hospitality industry are desperate for staff. Many have to pay higher than Award rates, offer bonus and incentive to keep their staff .

Many casual or part time will not turn up if you roster them for less than 7/8 hour shifts.

It’s a fact, very tough to be a business owner these days.

[GoldfishMan]

I don’t think this will work brother GFM,

There is a clear shortage of labour right now in Sydney. Many business especially in the hospitality industry are desperate for staff. Many have to pay higher than Award rates, offer bonus and incentive to keep their staff .

Many casual or part time will not turn up if you roster them for less than 7/8 hour shifts.

It’s a fact, very tough to be a business owner these days.
Well at least they now have a choice. Risk complete shutdown or bite the bullet and pay the higher wages to attract more staff.

They could get a business loan to cover the extra costs. The banks and the Gov have been making changes to try to make it easier for businesses to borrow money.

In fact, this is exactly the intended purpose of the RBA's low interest rates. To allow more business loans. Instead, most of it has gone to bigger and bigger home loans.

[warwick1]

Nearly impossible to get though plus would the girl want to test her in case it came back positive. If it got out to public all in shop would have to isolate. Not sure shop owner would be impressed.

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[cumquat]

Let’s just say , I am successful and enjoy the reviews for the business… it was not complicated at all… and yes, seasoned punters are right , it’s all those wonderful smart MLs who make running shop easy… also a great rule for this business, never ever use your own business for pleasure.
There will be haters and that is their right to be miserable… let’s enjoy the moment and stay safe.

Come on Bunty wot wot , let’s just say , we are all alight with wonder … which shop is yours ?

You seem to have found the magic formula - was it anything you gleaned from here ? Come on papasan Bunty , your found biz acumen and chutzpah is surely to be only applauded …

which is your shop ? Does it have a shower and a discrete yet aesthetically pleasing rear entry opportunity ? Close to major public transport hub ? Good parking ? proper aircon ? Complimentary drinks on arrival .


are you having too pay above award rates ?

[Fred Flintstone]

Well said, as a matter of facts , most of the RnT shops are running by former MLs who had worked very hard, saved up enough money to become her own boss.

Most of them continued to work hard and earn a honest living and many successful stories among them: SL, SF, 227 Broadway, Summerville, Sussex Star and DOS, MAC to name just a few.

Cheers
The other success story which comes to mind is Marlene. She started out in ML land doing massage with extras at the place next door over 20 years ago. She moved into the current shop about 10 years ago, which is a licensed FS shop. Now she is a very successful and wealthy brothel madam.

Not sure about “earning an honest living though”. I would think tax evasion is not exactly honest. LOL

[Vader]

The other success story which comes to mind is Marlene. She started out in ML land doing massage with extras at the place next door over 20 years ago. She moved into the current shop about 10 years ago, which is a licensed FS shop. Now she is a very successful and wealthy brothel madam.

Not sure about “earning an honest living though”. I would think tax evasion is not exactly honest. LOL

Are punters implicated by not asking for a tax receipt if paying by cash. Just curious.

[Fred Flintstone]

Are punters implicated by not asking for a tax receipt if paying by cash. Just curious.

No. This is from NSW Fair Trading;

“A business has an obligation to provide proof of transaction to consumers for goods or services valued at $75 (excluding GST) or more. Businesses are also required to provide a receipt for any transaction under $75 within seven days, if the consumer asks for one.”