N5M STAY AWAY TERRIBLE SERVICE

[ambiambi]

Complete nightmare.

1. Saw Molly described as young and good service on roster.

2. Booked Molly for standard service, so should be entitled to $10 off. $10 off is given for pre-booking for Mon- Thu & Sun.

3. WeChat confirmed $90 / 30 mins is ok for Molly.

4. Arrived at booking. Receptionist refused to give $10 off. So had to pay $100.

5. Molly's service was terrible and she was not young. Did not look like picture on WeChat.

6. Complained about bad service and Molly being old. Received aggressive voice messages. Eventually negotiated $30 off next visit.

7. Few days later, asked for confirmation that it's ok to combine $10 off for pre-booking with $30 off for bad service. WeChat confirmed yes it's ok.

8. Few days later, asked to apply the $10 + $30 discount combination but WeChat refused.

9. Took a screen shot of previous conversation at 7., WeChat finally agreed to $10 + $30 discount combination.

10. Finally booked Linh and used $10 + $30 discount combination. But Linh arrived late. So was only given 15 minutes not 30 minutes with Linh.

11. Booked Hani for $140. WeChat confirmed Hani is pretty.

12. Arrived. Receptionist refused to allow look at Hani before paying (noting what happened with Molly and inaccurate description of girls). Walked out.

13. WeChat now blocked by the shop.

Well done N5M. Never coming back.

[misard]

You have the screenshots that you can share here ?

[Discotech]

Fcuk you’re a tightarse go to Bellevue better suit your budget

[Sleazypeazy]

Fcuk you’re a tightarse go to Bellevue better suit your budget

It is about getting what you paid for and not being ripped off. If you advertise something you not be accountable for it. I have also had a bad experience with No5 where I was not offered the $10 discount which Ignored and then the buzzer went off after 20 minutes. Let's see if they will honor there discount.

[Azzkikr]

Not sure why you went ahead with Molly. Should have walked out the moment the deal went bust.

[Sharphorse]

Does Molly really look old? I go there a bit and was curious about her from the website pics and info..

I haven’t really been around all of Sydney so not really an experienced punter in that sense but as far as my local area goes No.5 is definitely the best. I mean you’re generally not gonna find any younger or hotter girls at any of the other places around the corner 😂 (apart from the occasional luck out). Never had any major issues with the customer service there so far 🤷*♂️ Maybe I’m just lucky but I usually go a bit more than just a 30 min standard session but I guess a 30 min session is good for a first time when you’re not sure

[cuteguy]

It is about getting what you paid for and not being ripped off. If you advertise something you not be accountable for it. I have also had a bad experience with No5 where I was not offered the $10 discount which Ignored and then the buzzer went off after 20 minutes. Let's see if they will honor there discount.

Don't they advertise $10 discount if you make booking? I made bookings but they then said the discount only applied to premium and diamond services. If that is the case, please state that it does not apply to standard service.

[Sharphorse]

Don't they advertise $10 discount if you make booking? I made bookings but they then said the discount only applied to premium and diamond services. If that is the case, please state that it does not apply to standard service.

That would make sense. I’ve never had any issues with the $10 discount myself or their customer service but I usually book diamond or premium

[8hifi8]

That would make sense. I’ve never had any issues with the $10 discount myself or their customer service but I usually book diamond or premium

Same, never had a bad experience at N5M. One time I booked a girl for an hour diamond and she wasn't available so they offered Jay, who costs more at $250, for the normal diamond rate at $230 to make up for it.

Not saying OP is wrong but we're only getting his side of the story and my experience about their service is the opposite.

[Meng]

I'm really torn here. In one instance I feel for you and the service you've gotten and them not honouring the discount. It also isn't the first complaint I've seen for n5m.

On the other hand you sound like the biggest tight arse. If you got shit service from girl and management why did you go back just because they gave you a $30 discount?

You sound like those guys that only go to hungry jacks for the free app items and buy nothing else

[yug]

So punting comes with the assumption that it's a sport for high-income earners?
May be he is tight arse because he can't afford it as much as many of the lucky ones do.
While people can make an argument that: "Oh then he should not punt at all" but he could be trying to make the most of the little money he has. Again, I don't know this for sure but give the guy benefit of the doubt.

But I agree that he shouldn't have gone back if he has been constantly disappointed.

[Bolbsolb]

Hahahah full hitting them with discount combos.

[Rotorhead]

To the OP.. you sound like an absolute nightmare of a customer.

Ive had good and bad experiences from a few shops including n5m.
Such is life..
The way you approached everything when it comes to money is absolutely poor. If you have a bad experience, tell the staff. Try to develop a relationship with the receptionists so they have your trust.

You are not entitled.

You pay for a service for pleasure from another human being that has emotions just like you.

Youll have good days and bad days.
This isnt a vending machine where you get the same consistent product each time.

[warwick1]

So punting comes with the assumption that it's a sport for high-income earners?
May be he is tight arse because he can't afford it as much as many of the lucky ones do.
While people can make an argument that: "Oh then he should not punt at all" but he could be trying to make the most of the little money he has. Again, I don't know this for sure but give the guy benefit of the doubt.

But I agree that he shouldn't have gone back if he has been constantly disappointed.

Well said, nothing wrong with being a tight arse ( which I am not) ,I certainly dont admire guys posting how many times they rent women in a day (hate the word punt) and telling the girl "dont make me come Ive got another shop to go to yet"....boring, more money than brains...........

[holi_day]

There is no right or wrong with both N5M and OP. It's just a mismatch of value proposition.

N5M just determined that OP does not fit into their target customer group. So rather than spending much time and resources and even risk of losing revenue (when OP requested to see Hani before pay while he had booking for discount). They just gave up on him so that they can focus on other customers, who they can serve with best value.

As for OP, you should find another shop that better suit your specific needs.

[Meng]

Well said, nothing wrong with being a tight arse ( which I am not) ,I certainly dont admire guys posting how many times they rent women in a day (hate the word punt) and telling the girl "dont make me come Ive got another shop to go to yet"....boring, more money than brains...........

Ok sure. Being conscious of money is not something to be put down about but why did the OP go back? One bad experience where the shop did not honour the discount and then he went back expecting they'll honour the discount the next time?

He's literally doing the same thing and expecting the result to be different.

[warwick1]

Ok sure. Being conscious of money is not something to be put down about but why did the OP go back? One bad experience where the shop did not honour the discount and then he went back expecting they'll honour the discount the next time?

He's literally doing the same thing and expecting the result to be different.

Fair enough, I certainly would not have bothered going back but people dont change , you cant argue with idiots...........

[Hogrider]

Damn , I was on my way to N5M right now.
Guess I turn back ? Or you guys have any recommendations?
I know It YMMV but bad rep like this makes me off

[negi]

i cannot helped it but smile reading all of these comments... 😅

[warwick1]

i cannot helped it but smile reading all of these comments... ��

You cant take anything too seriously on this forum, just egos and bs..............

[mansahar]

You cant take anything too seriously on this forum, just egos and bs..............

Agreed.

Anyways, it's been a very long time since I last went to N5M. My last time there was during my bux night but I had been punting there even before that. Good quality Thai and Japanese girls at that time. The only place where I can get DFK and BBBJ from Thai girls, every other shop or privates you get Thai girls who won't even let you touch their body without paying crazy amounts of extras.

[gthgrt]

Ok sure. Being conscious of money is not something to be put down about but why did the OP go back? One bad experience where the shop did not honour the discount and then he went back expecting they'll honour the discount the next time?

He's literally doing the same thing and expecting the result to be different.

You are saying that people should not revisit a shop after one bad experience? They offered him a discount. To me that is an invitation to return, to show that they can provide better service, and also admitting some responsibility for the situation. Because of this, he might have expected a better outcome the second time.

[Cherubwhacker]

I went to n5m last Sunday, everything was fine, paid for a 1hr diamond got the 10% discount. Girl was good, even though there weren't that many reviews about her (Anna). Honestly you can have shit experiences everywhere so who knows.

[Painterdan]

Does Molly really look old? I go there a bit and was curious about her from the website pics and info..


Don't know what the OPs age expectations are but she's mid to late 20s, and looks younger given the Asian genes. In looks she's much closer to Emma if you've seen her. Service is quite similar too.

[Meng]

You are saying that people should not revisit a shop after one bad experience? They offered him a discount. To me that is an invitation to return, to show that they can provide better service, and also admitting some responsibility for the situation. Because of this, he might have expected a better outcome the second time.

It was more than just the shop gave him 30 dollars off. Sounded like he negotiated it. Like he got receptionist not honouring the discount initially then being pushy to pick a girl and then bad service and yet he still went to negotiate a $30 discount. Sounds like getting kicked in the nuts and then asking for seconds to me.

Maybe he was asking for a refund and only got $30 off next visit, I don't know but if I had to pull teeth then yes I wouldn't of been back.

[mansahar]

It was more than just the shop gave him 30 dollars off. Sounded like he negotiated it. Like he got receptionist not honouring the discount initially then being pushy to pick a girl and then bad service and yet he still went to negotiate a $30 discount. Sounds like getting kicked in the nuts and then asking for seconds to me.

Maybe he was asking for a refund and only got $30 off next visit, I don't know but if I had to pull teeth then yes I wouldn't of been back.

I don't really trust your words Meng. Some of your reviews are really twisted, like the way you describe the WL isn't spot on as in their ethnicity or their services.

And now the way you sound is as if you're working for N5M and trying to clear their name. Even in the private AR section one other guy commented that you sound like you're the agent of that private WL.

I don't mean to call you out this way but this is the problem with this forum - whenever somebody posts a negative review of some sort the shop account (other than Jesse of 42G) will never have the balls to answer allegations but rather rely on a bunch of unverified trolls to come up with stupid replies that seems to be backing up the shop.

It's as if this forum is Hong Kong. Some protesters voices out their opinion and suddenly out comes the triad group doing counter protests rather than have the police dealing with the protester using proper laws aka "balls".

If you really want to protect your investments, why not do it with integrity? Like I said, I haven't visited N5M since my bux night many, many years ago and during those days N5M has comparable standards to 42G. Maybe a change in management has caused it to plummet so why don't N5M management take responsibility?

[Donn]

Complete nightmare.


Nightmares over $10 and then $30. You are punting in the wrong shop bro, you should go to those $70 20 mins chop shops for truckies and poor people.
I can't stand tight arse punters; nothing wrong with being poor, but punting is a pure luxury, an excess of life. Haggle at the supermarket or with your landlord or bank, not with WLs. If you weren't happy about the fact that the discount obviously doesn't apply to people buying the cheapest tier of service, walk out the door and go a cheaper shop.
As for M5, as good or bad as anywhere else, usually better. No major issue here...

[Meng]

I don't really trust your words Meng. Some of your reviews are really twisted, like the way you describe the WL isn't spot on as in their ethnicity or their services.

And now the way you sound is as if you're working for N5M and trying to clear their name. Even in the private AR section one other guy commented that you sound like you're the agent of that private WL.

I don't mean to call you out this way but this is the problem with this forum - whenever somebody posts a negative review of some sort the shop account (other than Jesse of 42G) will never have the balls to answer allegations but rather rely on a bunch of unverified trolls to come up with stupid replies that seems to be backing up the shop.

It's as if this forum is Hong Kong. Some protesters voices out their opinion and suddenly out comes the triad group doing counter protests rather than have the police dealing with the protester using proper laws aka "balls".

If you really want to protect your investments, why not do it with integrity? Like I said, I haven't visited N5M since my bux night many, many years ago and during those days N5M has comparable standards to 42G. Maybe a change in management has caused it to plummet so why don't N5M management take responsibility?

Lol I don't work for n5m if that's your allegation. Do you check thread history? I also visit privates and Ginza. I'm not defending N5M just saying not go back if you have a shit experience.

If someone has a horrible experience they should call the shop out with a AR and warn others about it. Don't go back a second time, experience horrible service again and only then write a AR.

Hundreds of people could of gone to N5M who would of loved a fair warning from the OP about the poor service.

[Sharphorse]

Don't know what the OPs age expectations are but she's mid to late 20s, and looks younger given the Asian genes. In looks she's much closer to Emma if you've seen her. Service is quite similar too.

Yeah for sure, Asian don’t raisin! And mid to late 20s is still pretty young especially if you look after yourself. Haven’t seen Emma either for that comparison. Might see Molly if she pops up on the roster again though

[gthgrt]

It was more than just the shop gave him 30 dollars off. Sounded like he negotiated it. Like he got receptionist not honouring the discount initially then being pushy to pick a girl and then bad service and yet he still went to negotiate a $30 discount. Sounds like getting kicked in the nuts and then asking for seconds to me.

Maybe he was asking for a refund and only got $30 off next visit, I don't know but if I had to pull teeth then yes I wouldn't of been back.

You are right. I didn't take note of the words "eventually negotiated" in OP point 6. The discount was probably demanded and argued for until given reluctantly.

Most of this type of complaint could be avoided if information on shop sites was accurate.
One posts says they advertise $10 discount when booking, another post says only applies to premium and diamond. Why the confusion? Is the shop information up to date and clearly stated?
Same with the pictures. I haven't seen Molly so I don't know how different she looks to the pictures, but it was enough to dissapoint the OP. Is he being unreasonable or are the pictures really way off the mark?

Often what is shown on a shop website is not what they deliver and it sometimes results in dissapointment. When the difference is small most people will be reasonable and accept, but if the difference is extreme reactions vary greatly.

[warwick1]

Yeah for sure, Asian don’t raisin! And mid to late 20s is still pretty young especially if you look after yourself. Haven’t seen Emma either for that comparison. Might see Molly if she pops up on the roster again though

Asian dont raisin is that like "Black dont crack"??

[Sharphorse]

Asian dont raisin is that like "Black dont crack"??

Yeah pretty much 😂

[Sharphorse]

Molly’s photo and measurements gives off the impression she is small, petite kinda like Jay?

[quackm2002]

People need to realise they are dealing with a brothel and with human beings, not Bose or Mercedes Benz.

There are no consumer guarantees or warranties or cooling off periods. To me, the best thing you can do if the girl is not as represented by her photos is not to start the appointment. Walk out immediately and go straight to reception with your complaint. The moment you start, you accept the goods “as is” and for “better or for worse”. I almost did the walk at Ginza last year with a Japanese girl because she looked as much like her photos as I do to Brett Pitt but she was so friendly I chose to stay and I was glad I did.

Some of you also need to be a bit more realistic over what shops can do and what you expect for what you are paying. We are in a market where the girls rule because there are no new girls who can come into this country. They can only be so demanding on photos otherwise the girls will just go to another shop.

To book half hour standard service and expect the world, well, most shops will find you to be too much trouble which is what has happened to you. I appreciate that it might be a substantial amount of money to you but it isn’t to a shop and they are running a business. If you aren’t worth the trouble, they’ll piss you off accordingly.

[gthgrt]

People need to realise they are dealing with a brothel and with human beings, not Bose or Mercedes Benz.

There are no consumer guarantees or warranties or cooling off periods. To me, the best thing you can do if the girl is not as represented by her photos is not to start the appointment. Walk out immediately and go straight to reception with your complaint. The moment you start, you accept the goods “as is” and for “better or for worse”. I almost did the walk at Ginza last year with a Japanese girl because she looked as much like her photos as I do to Brett Pitt but she was so friendly I chose to stay and I was glad I did.

Some of you also need to be a bit more realistic over what shops can do and what you expect for what you are paying. We are in a market where the girls rule because there are no new girls who can come into this country. They can only be so demanding on photos otherwise the girls will just go to another shop.

To book half hour standard service and expect the world, well, most shops will find you to be too much trouble which is what has happened to you. I appreciate that it might be a substantial amount of money to you but it isn’t to a shop and they are running a business. If you aren’t worth the trouble, they’ll piss you off accordingly.

Are you saying that the shops have no responsibility or influence when it comes to these unrealistic expectations? You seem to be saying that the shops are doing the best that they can, to represent the girls and services provided, and that the customers are completely at fault here, for imagining and expecting something completely different.

When an 18-20 year old Princess is advertised, however after you organise the time, payment and travel, you are presented with an average looking 35+ year old. Isn't it the advertiser causing the unrealistic expectation. If the advertising was a fair representation, there wouldn't be an unreasistic expectation. At least as far as looks is concerned.

[wilisno]

Are you saying that the shops have no responsibility or influence when it comes to these unrealistic expectations? You seem to be saying that the shops are doing the best that they can, to represent the girls and services provided, and that the customers are completely at fault here, for imagining and expecting something completely different.

When an 18-20 year old Princess is advertised, however after you organise the time, payment and travel, you are presented with an average looking 35+ year old. Isn't it the advertiser causing the unrealistic expectation. If the advertising was a fair representation, there wouldn't be an unreasistic expectation. At least as far as looks is concerned.

Unrealistic expectation is in your head, not in the advertisement, no shop would advertise a 35yo to be 18yo if she doesn’t look the part ! Some exaggeration is normal in this industry, actually in all industries, but not to this extent.

It’s not easy for a shop to ban a customer unless he’s a known trouble to the shop, and you’re only hearing one side of the story...

[Painterdan]

Molly’s photo and measurements gives off the impression she is small, petite kinda like Jay?

She's petite height wise, a little fuller figure so filled out a bit. Jay is skinnier.

[Painterdan]

no shop would advertise a 35yo to be 18yo if she doesn’t look the part ! Some exaggeration is normal in this industry, actually in all industries, but not to this extent.


Some do try to get away with more than others. Especially with some of the Asian WLs and heavy make up.

[wilisno]

Some do try to get away with more than others. Especially with some of the Asian WLs and heavy make up.

Yes, but 35+ as 18 ? You’ll still go ahead with it then complain on the forum ?

Look at Choice Magazine, some cleaning products that have the same cleaning power as water. ;) ;) ;)

[gthgrt]

Sorry the 18 to 35 was an extreme example.
I'm only new to all of this and am trying to find some perspective.
There are so many questions about whether a girl looks like her photos, and a lot of the responses are negative.
Asking how much difference is acceptable will get nowhere, as everyone has their own perspective/opinion.
However, in my opinion, I do think that sometimes the shops take things too far with regard to the photos they use. Not saying this is the case here, as I haven't seen the girl or the photos.
Sorry if this sort of derailed this thread.

[lovetosmack]

You sound like those guys that only go to hungry jacks for the free app items and buy nothing else
WTH are you to judge, even if that was true?

[mansahar]

WTH are you to judge, even if that was true?

If an establishment offers discounts on their ads they'll have to honour it. Otherwise, their long built reputation can easily go down the drain.

For example, long time ago I tried making a booking with 42G and the receptionist didn't reply me for like 1 hour. I immediately expressed my disappointment and told him "That's OK, I'll go look at other shops". Didn't even try to negotiate for discounts of any sort. The receptionist immediately replied with a $10 discount offer as a way to say sorry for his neglect. I happily accepted although I did say that I am willing to pay full price as $10 is nothing.

It's a matter of principle. Genghis Khan didn't conquer India out of all the countries that he had conquered but he sacked the Delhi capital strictly because he held onto his principles of not showing mercy to those who wronged him.

It's like Meng is trying to say it's wrong for punters to get discounts on punts. And obviously the only person who would think this way is:

- Dodgy shop owners

OR

- Investors who support dodgy shop owners

So yeah, even though Meng's thread history shows that he's been doing ARs in many shops and privates it does not clear him of the possibility that he's trolling just to cover n5m management's tracks in this matter. There is no rule for shop owners or investors that says they can't punt in their own shop or punt at other shops.

I wouldn't say Meng is judging but I can clearly say that he's been writing in this thread for a strong reason.

Even strong governments like China Communist Party have utilised internet trolls to try and take down those who support Hong Kong independence and attempting "yellow-washing" on ethnic minorities. So there you go Meng, set yourself straight and don't be a hypocrite.

[Raybo]

I learnt a long time ago (well, a year ago) to always go for top tier of service in shops or girls that offer standard/premium/diamond etc, even if you don't take them up on everything they offer. Like some others have said, being budget conscious and punting don't really mix well.

[alc]

I learnt a long time ago (well, a year ago) to always go for top tier of service in shops or girls that offer standard/premium/diamond etc, even if you don't take them up on everything they offer. Like some others have said, being budget conscious and punting don't really mix well.

This.

I think in a lot of punters cases they're just not the target market. When you're trying to bargain out the last cents of the lowest offering anywhere it's probably a sign you're in the wrong place.

If you can only just afford an A180 with no trims not just get Mazda 3 for the same money? You'll have a much better experience as you'll be talking about top trims there. The Merc shop will probably give you all of 5 minutes take it or leave it.

[rooter]

Oh Mr Hart. What a Mess!
I have no idea who is right or wrong here. maybe nobody is wrong and nobody is right.

[warwick1]

I don't think the ACCC can help anyone out on this one:grimace:

[Raybo]

I don't think the ACCC can help anyone out on this one:grimace:

can't help you either.

[MrSeven]

Lol.
Very articulate and amusing.
Enjoyed that comment bro kjarrus20

[eazylove4u]

Same here kjarrus20. Seems like its a copy and paste job with a change of names

[Jack.the.awesome]

Been to N5M a few times over the years. I can understand how the op feeling. Moneywise, with that rate, I would go somewhere else to get the best bang for your buck. The girls at N5M can get dull sometimes. Not the best looking girls neither.
There was one time I booked one girl, and the mamasan recommended shes busty and good looking. Came in and she looks like an aunty... Her breast is definitely busty cause probably after she has fed many children :confused2:
Be honest is one of the key to success in this industry, or any industries people.

[D.Li]

This shop is pretty fair for what you get...

From my 2 and a bit year experience...(not a regular)

If you're new, better see the line up first and then book those who you like to prevent disappointment. That fking $10 discount is not worth it buddy.

Please respect the girls, they're like us, PEOPLE not fking PRODUCT...

[Jumper]

This shop is pretty fair for what you get...

Please respect the girls, they're like us, PEOPLE not fking PRODUCT...
Yes agreed and support with your thoughts of respect as they are people
Thanks bro

[Gregorious]

OP 100% an OZBARGAIN shopper.

[D.Li]

OP 100% an OZBARGAIN shopper.

HAHAHA...More like OZbargain and Shopback combined ;)