Is punting sometimes a much needed support

[zucon]

A friend of mine said it’s his much neeeded support. I just feel for the many men out there who are kind of disadvantaged with the system.

My mate got divorced a few years back, he has a son who he takes care of full time as primary carer and working full time plus preparing food n all for a 10 yr old. He earns more than his ex but still can claim for child support but for reasons to avoid trouble he don’t ask for it, his ex on the other hand takes family tax from Centrelink when she don’t even care for a single night. He is afraid if he raises that than his ex might play games as the system favours women more, so bottom line he is the one suffering but still can’t do much, his ex on the other hand is just making the most most. For him punting gives him that little peace. Also he feels punting gives him that feeling that even if he is disadvantaged one but getting his manhood what it wants. Some live for money, some spend it to live. What a world we live in.

[BAM]

In many ways it's cheaper than a relationship. Convenient with no baggage and gives you variety. I know if (when) I split up, I would be perfectly happy being single and punting. Probably the occasional hookup if opportunity arose.

[scottie2222]

yeah mate it definitely is. each to their own, but for most guys its a hobby and something to keep
them going in life

[bigmansam]

I'm with BAM on this one.

[Riff888]

A friend of mine said it’s his much neeeded support. I just feel for the many men out there who are kind of disadvantaged with the system.

My mate got divorced a few years back, he has a son who he takes care of full time as primary carer and working full time plus preparing food n all for a 10 yr old. He earns more than his ex but still can claim for child support but for reasons to avoid trouble he don’t ask for it, his ex on the other hand takes family tax from Centrelink when she don’t even care for a single night. He is afraid if he raises that than his ex might play games as the system favours women more, so bottom line he is the one suffering but still can’t do much, his ex on the other hand is just making the most most. For him punting gives him that little peace. Also he feels punting gives him that feeling that even if he is disadvantaged one but getting his manhood what it wants. Some live for money, some spend it to live. What a world we live in.The system is pretty fair, I wouldn't be scared to speak to the department of Child Support.

He should be getting his share of child support, plus claim the tax breaks.

They will probably have remediation first to form a non binding agreement on custody share if any.

I was like this before but I feel liberated after the whole remediation experience.

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[blackmanjb]

depends on the person but I think it's in between hobby and needed cause someone who usually have kids, the wife is more reluctant to do sex. unless the guy can endure the lack of sex punting is probably needed

[scottie2222]

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[Rickyon]

In this case, as long as punting doesn't get in the way of his fatherly duties, why not use punting as a support

[dotcumdotinyou]

I got divorced about three years ago now and, much like your friend I was afraid that the system was heavily in favor of the woman. I was pushed into making contact with child support by a couple of friends and found that the system is a fair one now, they even told me I was paying too much child support. I went from paying $800 per week (which was what the ex demanded) to $350 per week (income assessed), during covid my income dropped and I'm currently paying $160 per week for 3 children under 15 years of age. All other costs are 50/50 and extracurricular activities have to be agreed to beforehand.
Unfortunately, she wouldn't compromise in conciliation and I had to go through the court to get orders. So now I have access to my children 4 days a fortnight, 2 days during the week and a weekend as well as half the school holidays.
As mentioned above they only calculate costs on taxable income, they don't include cash in bank, super, the business or property only the taxable income they generate.
Also if your friend has full custody then his ex would have to pay him child support, so it would be in his benefit to get into the system as fast as he can.

As for your punting question, I no longer want a relationship and am very happy living the single life and enjoying my time with my kids. When I feel the urge I punt then I walk out the brothel door a free man to do whatever I want whenever I want.

[Riff888]

I got divorced about three years ago now and, much like your friend I was afraid that the system was heavily in favor of the woman. I was pushed into making contact with child support by a couple of friends and found that the system is a fair one now, they even told me I was paying too much child support. I went from paying $800 per week (which was what the ex demanded) to $350 per week (income assessed), during covid my income dropped and I'm currently paying $160 per week for 3 children under 15 years of age. All other costs are 50/50 and extracurricular activities have to be agreed to beforehand.
Unfortunately, she wouldn't compromise in conciliation and I had to go through the court to get orders. So now I have access to my children 4 days a fortnight, 2 days during the week and a weekend as well as half the school holidays.
As mentioned above they only calculate costs on taxable income, they don't include cash in bank, super, the business or property only the taxable income they generate.
Also if your friend has full custody then his ex would have to pay him child support, so it would be in his benefit to get into the system as fast as he can.

As for your punting question, I no longer want a relationship and am very happy living the single life and enjoying my time with my kids. When I feel the urge I punt then I walk out the brothel door a free man to do whatever I want whenever I want.Sounds very similar to my case, except for going through family court.

Yes going through the system will give him more income which he can spend on his son plus punting.

Punting can be less expensive than a GF or marriage as long as you don't lose it and fall in love or pay to support a WL.

I lost it a little right after separation by punting 4 or 5 times a week and promising the world to a few WLs.

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[hexenducation]

This old chestnut.

Family law is equitable and gender neutral - there are no winners or losers, there are only those who have the money, support and will to argue their case, and those who do not, or choose not to. The fact that he's sole carer os his child tells me he's already the winner.

Get a better job. Drive Uber on the side. Fuck prettier hookers. Don't waste time thinking about his ex.

If his ex is taking Family Tax Benefit on behalf of this kid it is in Dad's ability to make a new claim with supporting information showing that he is the sole carer. My.gov.au. No biggie. He doesn't to pick a fight. MOVE ON!

I know it sometimes takes years, but move on man! Life is too short!


A friend of mine said it’s his much neeeded support. I just feel for the many men out there who are kind of disadvantaged with the system.

My mate got divorced a few years back, he has a son who he takes care of full time as primary carer and working full time plus preparing food n all for a 10 yr old. He earns more than his ex but still can claim for child support but for reasons to avoid trouble he don’t ask for it, his ex on the other hand takes family tax from Centrelink when she don’t even care for a single night. He is afraid if he raises that than his ex might play games as the system favours women more, so bottom line he is the one suffering but still can’t do much, his ex on the other hand is just making the most most. For him punting gives him that little peace. Also he feels punting gives him that feeling that even if he is disadvantaged one but getting his manhood what it wants. Some live for money, some spend it to live. What a world we live in.

[hexenducation]

It's a basic human need. Ever wonder why so many women order vibrators from anonymous online stores? It's a HUGE industry.


it’s a basic male need

[halfway]

If she is working and the child is living with him more than 50 % he should be getting the tax benefit and SHE should be paying him Child Support.

Straight up law and she hasn't got a leg to stand on.

[Soccerfan]

I can understand his apprehension in seeking out the government’s help. In my opinion, the system is still favours the mother.
I have two kids who I ever see once a fortnight because the mother wants 100% of the childcare amount and this means that they can’t stay with me.
I have pleaded my case with the authorities but they say it sounds like a court matter. They are aged 14 and 16 and the court will just let them make there own decision, which of course they will side with the mother. It will be a waste of time and money.
Incredibly, she also was able to secure a loan for my ex house based on my fortnightly payments. Unsurprisingly, I can’t get a loan because the amount of support I pay is too high?!?!
It’s hard seeing the mental and physical decline of my kids at her hands. I imagine most of my support money goes to her mortgage leaving fuck all money for there well being.
In the early days I had to tread lightly as she’s bat shit crazy and I was scared that she would accuse me of shit in order to keep me out of their lives.
It kills me because I have a lot to offer my kids, we were once very close and my family (parents and sisters) adore them. In sucks.
Financially, she got 70% of my wealth (she had fuck all) and 50% of my super. She does cash jobs as well which they don’t want to know about, this would lower my support dollars.
I’ll be working till I’m 70 and have no house and she’ll have an $800,000k house (outside Sydney) and not worked a day in her life.
I’ve gotten out of it lightly, there are alot worse stories than mine. Fuck the system.

PS. The USA system sounds like a nightmare. Even if there’s no kids they have to keep the wife or girlfriend in the manner she was used to during the relationship.

Sorry about venting.

[halfway]

Hey Soccerfan,

Once the kids are 12 yrs old they are allowed to chose who and how much time they spend with each Parent.

At Age 12 I got to spend 50% with my kids and when my eldest turned 15 100% of the time.

Shit only hit the fan when the Govt told her to pay me Child support..... That was funny......

[Riff888]

I can understand his apprehension in seeking out the government’s help. In my opinion, the system is still favours the mother.
I have two kids who I ever see once a fortnight because the mother wants 100% of the childcare amount and this means that they can’t stay with me.
I have pleaded my case with the authorities but they say it sounds like a court matter. They are aged 14 and 16 and the court will just let them make there own decision, which of course they will side with the mother. It will be a waste of time and money.
Incredibly, she also was able to secure a loan for my ex house based on my fortnightly payments. Unsurprisingly, I can’t get a loan because the amount of support I pay is too high?!?!
It’s hard seeing the mental and physical decline of my kids at her hands. I imagine most of my support money goes to her mortgage leaving fuck all money for there well being.
In the early days I had to tread lightly as she’s bat shit crazy and I was scared that she would accuse me of shit in order to keep me out of their lives.
It kills me because I have a lot to offer my kids, we were once very close and my family (parents and sisters) adore them. In sucks.
Financially, she got 70% of my wealth (she had fuck all) and 50% of my super. She does cash jobs as well which they don’t want to know about, this would lower my support dollars.
I’ll be working till I’m 70 and have no house and she’ll have an $800,000k house (outside Sydney) and not worked a day in her life.
I’ve gotten out of it lightly, there are alot worse stories than mine. Fuck the system.

PS. The USA system sounds like a nightmare. Even if there’s no kids they have to keep the wife or girlfriend in the manner she was used to during the relationship.

Sorry about venting.Wow even your Super.

I was told by my lawyer that it was hard to go after someone's Super, guess not.

Yeah, so glad we don't have alimony payments like the US, that's crazy.

I can't wait until my eldest daughter turns 18 next year, my payment will be cut in almost half.

It also sucks when you get a bonus, because that counts towards your taxable income but you get taxed almost 50% of it.

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[smn5746]

It’s not just in the US, if u in a very long marriage the same argument can be used here in Australia.

At the point of divorce everything is up grabs, everything is put into a pot and divided, I lost 8 years of super

[rooter]

Unfortunately punting is more than just a hobby for a lot of punters.

[Jumpy36]

Sometimes it is man

[Ease]

Yep - that’s me !

[Vader]

The lesson is if you are a man, never father children.

[Riff888]

The lesson is if you are a man, never father children.Not sure about that, I've have two daughters and they're awesome.

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[dotcumdotinyou]

Have to disagree Vader

I spent shitloads through the courts for guaranteed access for my three girls and would have happily spent ten times more. In fact I met other fathers who spent over 100K for access.

[asiafever]

The lesson is if you are a man, never father children.

Can only speak for myself, but if there's only one thing I've done right in my life, and that is quite possibly the case, it is my daughter. I'm lucky that my agreement with my ex is amicable and never needed court orders etc, and so I jave been her primary carer and never needed visitation arrangements or custody orders, but since the day she was born it became perfectly clear to me my purpose in life was her. To be the father of a growing daughter is to understand a little of what Yeats described as 'terrible beauty'. It is a perfect lesson in the limitation of self to realise that my heart is running around inside someone else's body. There is no question for me that I would gladly give my own life to protect hers. She has taught me responsibility, selflessness and to find pure joy in even the simplest of things.
There is a song in a terrible romcom that closes with the perfect description "The meaning of my life is She."

Marriage on the other hand....

[GoldfishMan]

Get off Vader's case. Lots of people go through life without having kids. What was right for you may not be right for him. The last thing you want is to have another deadbeat Dad. Too many of those in the world.

Back to the OP's question, I personally don't need it for support, but more to "vent". As in venting my pent up lust to fuck different beautiful girls whenever I want. Blame it on lovely girls walking the streets, all dolled up with the sole purpose of stirring our loins! I mean, what are we supposed to do try to pick up and fuck every hot girl that walks by??

[Riff888]

Get off Vader's case. Lots of people go through life without having kids. What was right for you may not be right for him. The last thing you want is to have another deadbeat Dad. Too many of those in the world.

Back to the OP's question, I personally don't need it for support, but more to "vent". As in venting my pent up lust to fuck different beautiful girls whenever I want. Blame it on lovely girls walking the streets, all dolled up with the sole purpose of stirring our loins! I mean, what are we supposed to do try to pick up and fuck every hot girl that walks by??I'm sure we all do that mentally anyway.

All this talk about dads and hot girls reminds me of a Biggie Smalls track Me & My Bitch.

"When I met you I admit my first thoughts was to trick
You look so good huh, I suck on your daddy's dick
I never felt that way in my life
It didn't take long before I made you my wife"



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[dotcumdotinyou]

I don't think anyone is on Vaders case, he has the right to his opinion. Not everyone wants children, but he made the statement "if your a man, never father children".

There's at least three of us (and probably more) on this forum that disagree with that statement. To put it in your own words Goldfish whats right for him is not right for me or us.

[dotcumdotinyou]

She is a beautiful song Asiafever especially Elvis Costellos version, another one that makes me think of my daughters and brings a tear to my eye every time I hear it is you can let go now daddy Alxis Bergers version.

[asiafever]

She is a beautiful song Asiafever especially Elvis Costellos version, another one that makes me think of my daughters and brings a tear to my eye every time I hear it is you can let go now daddy Alxis Bergers version.

She is one of the very few songs that hits me deep in the feels.
I shall look up You Can Let Go Now Daddy, the title alone suggests it will be another.

Agree. Nobody is on Vaders case. As I said to Warwick yesterday, his opinion is exactly that and valid for his own experiences. I can only speak for myself...

*Edit.
Jesus Fucking Christ, that song. You've killed me....

[BAM]

You know I don't know if you'd call this support, but I went the other day when everything was going wrong for me. It felt so good to know that there was still something I could make go right just by simply paying for it. Damn it was a good fuck that night!