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surething91
21-06-2021, 01:27 PM
Popup to Ginza Club a few weeks ago.
I saw quite a big line up! I think there were 5 girls. It's always hard to choose so I took the prettiest to me: C Cartier.

I book 45min which maybe was my mistake. Maybe longer would have been a better punt?

She looks very nice! Small slim chinese girl with small boobs.

Up in the shower she is not very talkative but does a nice BBBJ.

Then this fu**ing catbath again! She ask me to lay on my belly so she can catbath. I don't want to kill the vibe so I followed. But it's so annoying to me that I have to nicely ask her if I can turn. She agrees and says : " you don't like? It's okay." So she has a good attitude! Then she still do some front catbath which I decided not to complain and tried to enjoy.

Then finally BBBJ. I think we reached 20min mark here. She does a really good BBBJ and I CIM.

She brush her teeth and start to massage my legs while trying to communicate. Her english is not good but she is trying and we manage to have a good chat. She is friendly.

But I'm not here to make friend and I'd like a good fuck to finish. With 15min remaining she asks to me to shower. I can cum quickly so it surprised me as I can still fuck. Writing this I actually realize most guys probably shoot once then are tired: that's why she thought 15min was not enough. For me 10min fuck then 5min shower will do. It's actually what we did at the end with an average doggy.

So overall I feel she was a time waster but maybe I should have booked longer? But it's hard to go for 1hour if you don't know the girl. She is very pretty and is friendly though.

But I remember when I left I felt I had 30min of shower, catbath, shit massage, chat. And I thought I'll never try a random girl at a FS shop again and I should stick to ML. (I actually did it again and had an okay punt with C Sia which I'll review later on).

Meng
21-06-2021, 01:30 PM
Bro that back massage man is crap. Had it with a few Chinese girls. Just them licking and rubbing their tits on my back. Agree. It does nothing for me but their routine demands it so I usually don't want to kill the mood but they'll try and pad it out as much as possible.

surething91
21-06-2021, 03:55 PM
Yeah rooter said the catbath was popular in China and how the WL are trained there. I might just skip the C WLs then. I also had a long catbath with C Sia. It's a shame because otherwise I was quite happy with the service.

Meng
21-06-2021, 04:13 PM
Yeah rooter said the catbath was popular in China and how the WL are trained there. I might just skip the C WLs then. I also had a long catbath with C Sia. It's a shame because otherwise I was quite happy with the service.

Yea does nothing to me. If you're on your stomach. You can barely even see the girl, let alone touch them.

dundersyd1
21-06-2021, 06:42 PM
I always skip/decline the cat bath now. Only really gets brought up with C girls, J girls don't seem to mention it and we go straight to laying down together.

Catbath is ok in rnt but if you're paying for fs it's a real waste of time.

Thomas Crown
22-06-2021, 09:32 AM
Why not just break the routine?

If you feel things falling into the hum-drum of the usual, take control.

If you’re bored with the routine of shower, cursory BBBJ, get dry, onto bed, cat bath, blah, blah, imagine how bored THEY are with it.

Change it up. Do something different and/or nice for them.

Expecting a girl to make your hour with her great by using a routine is insane.

surething91
22-06-2021, 10:40 AM
Catbath is ok in rnt but if you're paying for fs it's a real waste of time.
Exactly what I thought when leaving the place: I should have gone for an rnt for this price.

surething91
22-06-2021, 10:41 AM
Change it up. Do something different and/or nice for them.
You are right! But not so easy to do though.

alc
22-06-2021, 10:53 AM
Why not just break the routine?

If you feel things falling into the hum-drum of the usual, take control.

If you’re bored with the routine of shower, cursory BBBJ, get dry, onto bed, cat bath, blah, blah, imagine how bored THEY are with it.

Change it up. Do something different and/or nice for them.

Expecting a girl to make your hour with her great by using a routine is insane.

Out of curiosity, do you visit Empire much? In general I agree with you but I've found the ladies at Empire are quite adamant with sticking to the routine. Maybe it helps them get through the day easier.

One23Four
22-06-2021, 10:55 AM
You are right! But not so easy to do though.


You should try and ask the girl as customer. If she doesn’t follow, she is a real time waster and you shouldn’t go back to her again. Btw, I agree with other brothers’ comments that your punt wasn’t too bad. At least you got a good bbbj and CIM with a pretty girl and you were paying $210 for a 45 minutes session. If you didn’t choose to CIM, you could have enough time for a good fuck.

Also cat bath is not originated by C-girls but K-girl instead and many K-girls and J-girls still use the same routine. Generalization that all C-girls use cat bath to waste time is not true according to my own experience.

Meng
22-06-2021, 12:39 PM
Change it up. Do something different and/or nice for them.

If you really want to do something nice for them then pay them the money and not fuck them. Just let them play on their phone the whole time. They'll really appreciate you for that.

The girls are doing this for money. Not to get off from a punter.

One23Four
22-06-2021, 01:18 PM
If you really want to do something nice for them then pay them the money and not fuck them. Just let them play on their phone the whole time. They'll really appreciate you for that.

The girls are doing this for money. Not to get off from a punter.


Well said !!! WLs should also have a good standard of services to most customers at least, if not all, to be a professional WL earning good monies from customers and stay in the industry until she want to retire. It is a trade, not a personal intimate and unique relationship between a particular customer and a WL.

Thomas Crown
23-06-2021, 05:17 PM
Out of curiosity, do you visit Empire much? In general I agree with you but I've found the ladies at Empire are quite adamant with sticking to the routine. Maybe it helps them get through the day easier.


Hello Mr alc.

I used to be at either Club or Empire once a week.
The girls never seemed to worry about breaking a routine. Most were relieved when we did it. They could let someone else do the thinking and control the tempo.

Perhaps a year since I’ve been to either Ginza. I go to other venues now that I find more appealing.

Thomas Crown
23-06-2021, 05:20 PM
If you really want to do something nice for them then pay them the money and not fuck them. Just let them play on their phone the whole time. They'll really appreciate you for that.

The girls are doing this for money. Not to get off from a punter.


I have different experiences to you Mr Meng.

And I agree. The $ is the motivator. I understand.

Abracadabra
23-06-2021, 09:18 PM
Hello Mr alc.

I used to be at either Club or Empire once a week.
The girls never seemed to worry about breaking a routine. Most were relieved when we did it. They could let someone else do the thinking and control the tempo.

Perhaps a year since I’ve been to either Ginza. I go to other venues now that I find more appealing.

Hi Mr TC, I have had a similar pattern I suspect.
The Ginzas plus Kyoto were my initial focus but then expanded to 42G and N5M with some 5STAR.
Some ordinary experiences lately so interested in your more appealing venues??

Thomas Crown
24-06-2021, 09:50 AM
Hi Mr TC, I have had a similar pattern I suspect.
The Ginzas plus Kyoto were my initial focus but then expanded to 42G and N5M with some 5STAR.
Some ordinary experiences lately so interested in your more appealing venues??


Good morning Mr A.

My go-to of late has been Sakura in Surry Hills. I’ve also had great experiences at N5M.

In both cases, I’ve gone out of my way to build rapport with the shop managers/receptionists.

I have a strict criteria (won’t bore you with it here); they know what it is; no exceptions; they help me choose; I’m patient; can’t remember the last bad session.

Hope your next one is your best one.

Abracadabra
24-06-2021, 07:31 PM
Good morning Mr A.

My go-to of late has been Sakura in Surry Hills. I’ve also had great experiences at N5M.

In both cases, I’ve gone out of my way to build rapport with the shop managers/receptionists.

I have a strict criteria (won’t bore you with it here); they know what it is; no exceptions; they help me choose; I’m patient; can’t remember the last bad session.

Hope your next one is your best one.

Thanks Thomas, I like your approach.

Out of interest, have you seem Amanda or Nana at Sakura?

Thomas Crown
25-06-2021, 02:26 PM
Thanks Thomas, I like your approach.

Out of interest, have you seem Amanda or Nana at Sakura?

I have not seen either Amanda or Nana. They both look and sound appealing, don’t they?

Have you had a session with either girl?

Abracadabra
25-06-2021, 06:41 PM
I have not seen either Amanda or Nana. They both look and sound appealing, don’t they?

Have you had a session with either girl?

No, I haven't and in fact haven't been to the shop, but plan to soon. I used to visit their sister shop Kyoto last year, particularly when Summer was on the roster.
Looking for alternatives to the Ginzas etc and perhaps Sakura will be an option if well managed.....some of the girls appear worth a visit.

GoldfishMan
15-07-2021, 08:54 AM
Why not just break the routine?

If you feel things falling into the hum-drum of the usual, take control.

If you’re bored with the routine of shower, cursory BBBJ, get dry, onto bed, cat bath, blah, blah, imagine how bored THEY are with it.

Change it up. Do something different and/or nice for them.

Expecting a girl to make your hour with her great by using a routine is insane.
Totally agree with this, absolutely need to take charge to ensure a great punt. And I don't mean laying there and barking orders at the girl!

GoldfishMan
15-07-2021, 08:59 AM
Popup to Ginza Club a few weeks ago.
I saw quite a big line up! I think there were 5 girls. It's always hard to choose so I took the prettiest to me: C Cartier.

I book 45min which maybe was my mistake. Maybe longer would have been a better punt?

She looks very nice! Small slim chinese girl with small boobs.

Up in the shower she is not very talkative but does a nice BBBJ.

Then this fu**ing catbath again! She ask me to lay on my belly so she can catbath. I don't want to kill the vibe so I followed. But it's so annoying to me that I have to nicely ask her if I can turn. She agrees and says : " you don't like? It's okay." So she has a good attitude! Then she still do some front catbath which I decided not to complain and tried to enjoy.

Then finally BBBJ. I think we reached 20min mark here. She does a really good BBBJ and I CIM.

She brush her teeth and start to massage my legs while trying to communicate. Her english is not good but she is trying and we manage to have a good chat. She is friendly.

But I'm not here to make friend and I'd like a good fuck to finish. With 15min remaining she asks to me to shower. I can cum quickly so it surprised me as I can still fuck. Writing this I actually realize most guys probably shoot once then are tired: that's why she thought 15min was not enough. For me 10min fuck then 5min shower will do. It's actually what we did at the end with an average doggy.

So overall I feel she was a time waster but maybe I should have booked longer? But it's hard to go for 1hour if you don't know the girl. She is very pretty and is friendly though.

But I remember when I left I felt I had 30min of shower, catbath, shit massage, chat. And I thought I'll never try a random girl at a FS shop again and I should stick to ML. (I actually did it again and had an okay punt with C Sia which I'll review later on).
Whoa back the truck up bro. Did you just say she went brushed her teeth right after giving you CIM? That's the worst thing she can possibly do, actually makes her a lot more prone to getting STI than not doing anything after CIM.

Somebody needs to tell this lady to stop doing that.

rooter
15-07-2021, 10:15 AM
Totally agree with this, absolutely need to take charge to ensure a great punt. And I don't mean laying there and barking orders at the girl!

You guys are like those customers who go into a restaurant and ask for all sorts of variations on the menu.
Waiters and chefs love those customers :) :) :)

GoldfishMan
15-07-2021, 10:33 AM
You guys are like those customers who go into a restaurant and ask for all sorts of variations on the menu.
Waiters and chefs love those customers :) :) :)

Nah, I'm the type that goes into the kitchen to teach the chef how to cook my stir-fry. :cool2:

Fred Flintstone
15-07-2021, 10:58 AM
I always wonder how the WLs come up with their working names. Cartier sounds a little more upmarket than the standard Mimi, Fifi, Loulou, Mandy, Cici etc.

I’m waiting for Omega, Rolex and Louis Vuitton to join the stable

GoldfishMan
15-07-2021, 11:36 AM
I always wonder how the WLs come up with their working names. Cartier sounds a little more upmarket than the standard Mimi, Fifi, Loulou, Mandy, Cici etc.

I’m waiting for Omega, Rolex and Louis Vuitton to join the stable
Some WLs I've spoken to about their names told me their names were given to them by the shop. Not sure if it applies to all working girls, though.

Fred Flintstone
15-07-2021, 12:02 PM
Some WLs I've spoken to about their names told me their names were given to them by the shop. Not sure if it applies to all working girls, though.

Yes I think so. That explains why MLs all have 2 or 3 names. It gets very confusing seeing the same girl at different locations, but under a different name.

Climax598
15-07-2021, 03:16 PM
Yes I think so. That explains why MLs all have 2 or 3 names. It gets very confusing seeing the same girl at different locations, but under a different name.
But not popular Malaysian ML always Canny in every shop she works. The popular one will use same name so her regular will follow her to her new shop.. some don't want to use same name because want a new beginning.

surething91
15-07-2021, 03:42 PM
Whoa back the truck up bro. Did you just say she went brushed her teeth right after giving you CIM? That's the worst thing she can possibly do, actually makes her a lot more prone to getting STI than not doing anything after CIM.

Somebody needs to tell this lady to stop doing that.
It's not the only girl who did that with me. I thought it was part of the routine and to be clean. Then not all the girls do that? They usually just wash the mouth? So the brush teeth thing might be a time waster thing? I'm not blaming her for brushing her teeth though as I thought it was good hygiene. I don't know about the STI.

rooter
15-07-2021, 05:19 PM
It's not the only girl who did that with me. I thought it was part of the routine and to be clean. Then not all the girls do that? They usually just wash the mouth? So the brush teeth thing might be a time waster thing? I'm not blaming her for brushing her teeth though as I thought it was good hygiene. I don't know about the STI.

Mouth wash is a good idea.
But brushing the teeth just scratches the gums and allows bugs to get into the blood stream.
I don't think it's time wasting.
I just think it's lack of knowledge,
She genuinely thinks she is doing the right thing but she is making it worse for herself.

cuteguy
15-07-2021, 07:57 PM
I always wonder how the WLs come up with their working names. Cartier sounds a little more upmarket than the standard Mimi, Fifi, Loulou, Mandy, Cici etc.

I’m waiting for Omega, Rolex and Louis Vuitton to join the stable

They probably have those expensive items in their wardrobes.:shout:

the1hkdude
22-08-2021, 10:01 PM
If you save up a few year or two of punting budget you can afford those as well. I am happy enough to spend on those WL.