Wrongtime massage

[Pmb8]

Ok I went to a popular shop in stones corner and had a reasonable massage and horrible ending.
I figured all your reviews were good. But I had a skinny waif who delivered a good massage and the second worst finish I’ve ever had. Yes she was annoyed that I wouldn’t pay for her to strip but I could see that she wasn’t my type.

I won’t return. And the money was weird. She seemed like she didn’t want to give me back the change from $100 for the exorbitant $65 massage.

And I gave her the regular 1P for the extremely rapid finish. Not a good experience.

[TouchNGo]

I've made two trips to the shop over the years. First time was OK but not the glowing service as per the reviews. I went again and had a plumpish german girl that had exorbitant extras. didn't go back for a third strike.

not giving the change is low ball tactic hoping that the horny punter forgets or is too shy to insist. sadly I always insist and even when they try to keep the $5 change from $70 submitted I deduct $50 from the available tip.

[Scotty from Marketing]

Yep, this shop definitely has a mix. Some duds, some among the best in the business. Same as most good shops. If they are shit, don’t do extras or complain. This shop has a high turnover at the bottom cause of complaints.
I would rather write off the shop fee and go elsewhere if I have time

As for the cash thing, I learned a long time ago that if you have a $50, 2 x $20 and a $10, as well as $5 in change you are covered for every scenario. No worries about shop fees and change. The $5 change is preferable to make a point that I hate the $45, $55, $65 or god forbid $75 fees. 20 and 10 cent coins are perverse fun to watch them count, and they always do.

[APL]

At $65 Stones Corner I thought you were on about Anytime but a Plumpish German threw me however doesn't make any difference thats why its punting we all fancy different MLs for different reasons like you said she wasn't your type.
Happy Days Elsewhere bro

[lashings74]

Not the same Stones Corner shop, but a very popular one in the next suburb.... had one of the girls attempt to short change me. In my opinion, it was deliberate. Handed over $100 for a $70 shop fee. She returned shortly and I was already on the bed, and she put the change on the chair all folded up. After the session had ended, I unfolded the change, and noticed it was a $10 and $5 note. I asked if there was any more change, and without missing a beat, she goes "oh sorry, I thought that was a $20 note" (instead of the $5). She knew exactly what she was going, and was hoping I would just ignore it. Kind of left a sour taste in my mouth. (Mind you, she probably had a sour taste in her mouth too after that session)

[Tales]

Had one chick take the money out of my pocket half way through. I told her exactly where she can shove her wondering hands. Don't like anyone going through my clothes while I'm lying butt naked on the table. As per usual i only take the required cash into a shop. No cards, phones or wallets. I even have a hidden slot in my cap incase i need extra cash. Stupid bitch didn't think to look there. Never went back even though it was a good session.

[ecchi.gaijin]

"for the exorbitant $65 massage."

$65 for a presumably a 1 hour massage is exorbitant to you? what fucking planet are you from? LOL

[Pmb8]

"for the exorbitant $65 massage."

$65 for a presumably a 1 hour massage is exorbitant to you? what fucking planet are you from? LOL

Yeah I probably worded that incorrectly. I should have indicated that the $65 wasn’t for a massage but for half a bottle of baby oil splashed on my back.

I’ll happily pay $70 for a decent massage and another pineapple for a decent HE.

At least one part of the service should be enjoyable.

[Sully 69]

I agree a good one hour massage 70 or 75 dollars and hj 50 dollars but if the massage is shit no way 70 75 dollars you feel ripped off and wouldn't come back

[4FoW2]

I am bewildered how MS legit or not think they can charge $1 a min or more for their massage service.
I mean what quals, training or experience do you need to do this part.
How many professionals of you out there with university degrees, a wealth of experience and big responsibilities towards your clients earn $1 a min in your job? ..and we're just talking about massaging..not what follows!
$70 - 75 for massage = greedy and unless follow up is very good ( so I consider total price, like we all do or should) then not for me.
BYVMD

[bouncybouncy]

It's probably more about rents / business costs. Heard a couple of diff ML's say they only get $20-30 of that, depending on demand, advance booking etc.

[alexchinn]

if you are willing to pay, you pay and you get.

if you are not wiling to pay, you do not get.

even if you do not pay, there will be others who will, so ..... up to you

[TouchNGo]

I am bewildered how MS legit or not think they can charge $1 a min or more for their massage service.
I mean what quals, training or experience do you need to do this part.
How many professionals of you out there with university degrees, a wealth of experience and big responsibilities towards your clients earn $1 a min in your job? ..and we're just talking about massaging..not what follows!
$70 - 75 for massage = greedy and unless follow up is very good ( so I consider total price, like we all do or should) then not for me.
BYVMD

massaging someone you detest for 60 minutes 70$
sucking someone cock twice your age 150$

it is what it is. we can get massages from boilers for less, we can get massages in bali for less. if we want the sweet young ones we have to pay to get their attention.

[ecchi.gaijin]

How many professionals of you out there with university degrees, a wealth of experience and big responsibilities towards your clients earn $1 a min in your job?
BYVMD


True, none are. Because all of them are over $1 a minute. You've obviously never sought professional services if you think $1 a minute is anything but bottom of the barrel rate.

Minimum wage is $20.33/hr. The standard way to run a business is 1/3 labour, 1/3 costs, 1/3 profit. That means $60/hr would be considered a minimum fee.

[The Dominator]

Giggles galore… obviously never worked as a sub-contractor who still have take out tax,GST, holiday pay, sick pay, insurance out of that hourly rate…. And probably room hire on top of that as well

[Pmb8]

massaging someone you detest for 60 minutes 70$
sucking someone cock twice your age 150$

it is what it is. we can get massages from boilers for less, we can get massages in bali for less. if we want the sweet young ones we have to pay to get their attention.

So thanks to this site, I followed up to the place that Dave Brubeck made famous - and I have never had a better massage time. The ML even offered me a $20 back on the massage time as it was only 45 not 60 - but I told her to keep it as a tip. She was happy and I was very happy with the outcome. 1P standard and I was literally blown away. Less cost, younger, more attractive and a much better experience. Thank you Aus99forum for steering me to the stairway to heaven.

[APL]

I take it your a fan of the "SAX" Pmb8:slobber:

[Holdan]

So thanks to this site, I followed up to the place that Dave Brubeck made famous - and I have never had a better massage time. The ML even offered me a $20 back on the massage time as it was only 45 not 60 - but I told her to keep it as a tip. She was happy and I was very happy with the outcome. 1P standard and I was literally blown away. Less cost, younger, more attractive and a much better experience. Thank you Aus99forum for steering me to the stairway to heaven.

Too cryptic for me - Blackhawk is all I can get

[Scotty from Marketing]

So thanks to this site, I followed up to the place that Dave Brubeck made famous - and I have never had a better massage time. The ML even offered me a $20 back on the massage time as it was only 45 not 60 - but I told her to keep it as a tip. She was happy and I was very happy with the outcome. 1P standard and I was literally blown away. Less cost, younger, more attractive and a much better experience. Thank you Aus99forum for steering me to the stairway to heaven.
Offers you $20 back and you gets a BJ for $50. I smell bullshit
She cook you a steak dinner and drive you home too?

[Flyisdown]

Offers you $20 back and you gets a BJ for $50. I smell bullshit
She cook you a steak dinner and drive you home too?

Hahaha... totally agree with your sentiments

[4FoW2]

True, none are. Because all of them are over $1 a minute. You've obviously never sought professional services if you think $1 a minute is anything but bottom of the barrel rate.

Minimum wage is $20.33/hr. The standard way to run a business is 1/3 labour, 1/3 costs, 1/3 profit. That means $60/hr would be considered a minimum fee.

As Dom said NFI.

[4FoW2]

massaging someone you detest for 60 minutes 70$
sucking someone cock twice your age 150$
it is what it is. we can get massages from boilers for less, we can get massages in bali for less. if we want the sweet young ones we have to pay to get their attention.

True Story - recently went to a well patronised shop in Brisb for the first time - had what I consider a 9 out of 10 session ( and No the deal was I don't broardcast her name as it was a referral ) and to give you some idea of the service level there was rimming and bb sucking involved. No mention in payment at the start. At the end I say how much and start pulling out 4 maybe 5 pineapples which I would and many would consider fair. She goes just the m fee plus a 100. I'm floored. I say no at least take 4 pineapples she says no she repeats the same total again. I go off and shower thinking whats the catch. Come back and she brings me the change from 4 pineapples I once again say I feel embarassed but she says just come back insistently.
If you treat some girls right and give as much as you expect they are apprecitive, not always but sometimes.
So maybe if you "like" "appreciate" someone you massage maybe it shouldn't be $70 per hour and yes she did suck my cock and I was twice her age and it wasn't $150.

Agree this may not be the norm but now that I'm getting close to 60 and scrub up ok and take time to think about them and their needs its amazing how often I get the gfe or close to, I am after.
4FoW2

[StiFFFy]

Thanks champions, good advice!
Can you comment on what counts as treating them right, bar what you specified? Does dropping a few broken words in thier language count?
I've always found it works wonders with foreigners/ex patsout in your local city when hitting the town.

[4FoW2]

Thanks champions, good advice!
Can you comment on what counts as treating them right, bar what you specified? Does dropping a few broken words in thier language count?
I've always found it works wonders with foreigners/ex patsout in your local city when hitting the town.

There is nothing someone on this forum can advise you that you shouldn't be able to come up with yourself. There is no magic behaviour, phrase or panacea.
What I will say is don't try to put it on - just like fake moaning ala Queenie - for many Wg's this is an instant roll eyes affair.
As many have said start with respect. And if you have to get others to define what respect means its time to have a think about you, before considering others.
Be yourself, if you're a nice guy it will shine through, if you're an arsehole well you deserve what you get.
4FoW2

[ArtieGee]

There is nothing someone on this forum can advise you that you shouldn't be able to come up with yourself. There is no magic behaviour, phrase or panacea.
What I will say is don't try to put it on - just like fake moaning ala Queenie - for many Wg's this is an instant roll eyes affair.
As many have said start with respect. And if you have to get others to define what respect means its time to have a think about you, before considering others.
Be yourself, if you're a nice guy it will shine through, if you're an arsehole well you deserve what you get.
4FoW2

My demographic profile is almost identical to you 4F, and I couldn't agree more. Been around nearly 6 decades and seen a lot.
I question how some posters on here get on in shops if they show the same attitudes as in the forums.
What you get back if you are well presented, clean, polite, genuine and appreciative will never be had by some of the guys on here. My experience, more than once, has been as you describe, above and beyond without hustling or hassling the girl.
Of course there are also occasions when they do go above and beyond and ask for an extra tip, and I don't resent that either. It may change my opinion when deciding on a return visit, but that varies.
It's the variety that keeps us in the game.
RTG

[4FoW2]

Once you can PM me RTG - being of the same vintage we prob have lots of notes to compare if you wish.

[Pmb8]

I take it your a fan of the "SAX" Pmb8:slobber:


Too cryptic for me - Blackhawk is all I can get

T5 is the title of a famous tune by Brubeck. And I am indeed a fan of the Sax. And for the other post - it was the standard 1P for the HJ which was rather more than your standard HJ. No BJ no harm, no foul, no attempt to describe it as more than it was - although being blown away by the experience might lead others to think that a BJ was included. Not this time.

[Yellow Fever]

Once you can PM me RTG - being of the same vintage we prob have lots of notes to compare if you wish.

I’m intrigued, you constantly pressure info, from others….’message me’.
I wonder what you have to offer, in exchange….why not make the first move?
For the first time ever, on this site, I sent a PM….gave up some info.
Nothing special, no secrets…..just a good lead.
In return, I received a message; some old boiler in the backwater, might do something, maybe?
The exchange rate was woeful…..he was just trying to expand his horizons….pfft.

[4FoW2]

I’m intrigued, you constantly pressure info, from others….’message me’.
I wonder what you have to offer, in exchange….why not make the first move?
In return, I received a message; some old boiler in the backwater, might do something, maybe?
.
Hey I'm not pressuring anybody - quite frankly after 40 + years of punting in Brisb & communicating on forums like this do you think I really need intel? If you ask my "friends" on here they'll say I'm upfront & honest and trustworthy - thats how you build up a network on here.
Pray tell who was the "old boiler in the backwater" I sent you intrigued. If ppl don't want my intel - just block me, simple.
I often say message me to chat to punters of my vintage to reminise about old times.
If ppl want to know historically about punting in Bris then I think I can help & I reckon I've saved ppl millions with guidance of where NOT to go and where To go. Thats been all of my own money and time.
You with your 49 posts and me with my over 700 - not that how many posts count -its quality of intel you pass on that counts.
If you go quickly go through your posts on this forum there mainly whinging, criticism and negative - sounds like your MO to me - hey just block me - better for me, you, prob everybody.
4FoW2

[Trapper]

2.95 a minute here for my time and i am not even a senior ;p