Sugar dating

[exstar]

If I can also add, there seems to be new waves of girls signing up every few months, and they come and go. So if your not keen on paying the monthly membership, sign up for just a month, get the kik contacts of those that interest you and take it from there, then cancel your SA account.

In a couple of months either reactivate or sign up on a new profile. I’ve been on the site for a few years, and would normally just reactivate my account… however this time around I created a new account new photo, tweaked some details and have had interests from different types of girls I wouldn’t have got responses from before - so how you present yourself really has an impact.

[GoldfishMan]

This guy should be the poster boy for all SDs or would-be SDs:
https://www.afr.com/technology/crypto-crook-blames-bullies-sugar-babies-greed-for-123m-fraud-20220123-p59qgv

[ASDF]

very happy to see finally SB or seeking is getting some solid discussions and here are my two cents:
* i have started using seeking back in 2016 and i think that was the best time to find gems - i had over 100 to 200 SB up to date mostly around 20yrs and all ethinicity and mostly in sydney
* i have slowed down during last year partially due to covid but more due to the changes in SB industry - its a bit like bitcoin that the best time to buy would be when it started and unfortunately its not the best time now - there are way too many "experienced" SB now especially compared to 2016 and not to mentiom scammers or professionals etc - no disrespect but this means the value has deteriorated significantly
* to me it feels like the best time for private was 2011-13 and for SB was 2016-18 - again im talking about the chance of finding gems
* happy to share some of my experience further if anyone is interested - i have been using this forum a bit but has not really contributed much

[kiddoh]

Regarding premium vs. non-premium in the girl’s profiles.

If you are a Sugarbabe then you don’t pay for the membership. You just need a profile and photos and you are away.

I’ve never paid too much interest in those who set themselves as “premium” (they pay for that tag) because all it means is that there are more guys hitting up their profiles.

Sometimes the gold is in the inconspicuous profiles. The ones who aren’t putting their tits out in the skimpiest bikinis.

If you shop where everyone else is shopping, you just pay more.

Mate, you should write a book... so many insights and I believe you just seeded the thought of SB to so many in our forum including me... I have just enrolled in Secretbenefits and got few messages.. hope i can convert a few...

[Riff888]

So people on this forum have been on this site for years and it's only been discussed seriously since November last year?

Hidden gem syndrome again.

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[ASDF]

So people on this forum have been on this site for years and it's only been discussed seriously since November last year?

Hidden gem syndrome again.

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i found some discussions previously related to SB was more viewed as scam especially when compared against the more traditional bussiness models (and obviously i think its at least partially against the financial interest of this site so im pleasantly surprised seeing this thread) - also at the time e.g. 2016 for others who are enjoying SB like myself, it is in our best interest to keep low key

[warwick1]

i found some discussions previously related to SB was more viewed as scam especially when compared against the more traditional bussiness models (and obviously i think its at least partially against the financial interest of this site so im pleasantly surprised seeing this thread) - also at the time e.g. 2016 for others who are enjoying SB like myself, it is in our best interest to keep low key

Just another form of prostitution for the "more money than brains club"..............That's gotta get a bite

[ASDF]

Just another form of prostitution for the "more money than brains club"..............

i dont think for example a hot 18yrs old blonde vrigin for 1k is just normal prostitution... but yeah everyone has different views

[warwick1]

Don't bother getting comfortable warwick1.
With a comment like that as a throwaway you will find no joy of agreement in this discussion.
But, that is probably your aim isn't it...

How does it feel standing their holding the pin after you've lobbed in the grenade and it doesn't go off?

Don't really give a shit, have a nice day........But it is still prostitution no matter how you want to spin it

[BennyB]

Ok so I am probably over booked next week. I am doing round 2 with the Phillo I met a few days ago. I have a new hot Asian, young Aussie and Italian and a fuckin banging hot African

I hope you have rested up and appropriately carbo-loaded. I wish my Kamagra had arrived. Although the website I’ve purchased it from says it has been shipped and is en route to Sydney :)

[BennyB]

I have finally decided to give seeking a go. Wonder what would you guys already are champions and had a good success on platform choose your headlines and descriptions when setting up a profile. I read through few the website infos and want to make sure m not striking any norms but still convey the message about self and my intentions.
still trying to get the foothold on this newly suggested universe 😉😉😉

The most important suggestion from is you will attract what you advertise.

So if you have photos showing you are dressed like a slob, or look creepy, then that’s what you will get. Think about what the girls want to see and if you are not sure then send me a note. A few members have been in touch regarding their profiles.

[BennyB]

If I can also add, there seems to be new waves of girls signing up every few months, and they come and go. So if your not keen on paying the monthly membership, sign up for just a month, get the kik contacts of those that interest you and take it from there, then cancel your SA account.

In a couple of months either reactivate or sign up on a new profile. I’ve been on the site for a few years, and would normally just reactivate my account… however this time around I created a new account new photo, tweaked some details and have had interests from different types of girls I wouldn’t have got responses from before - so how you present yourself really has an impact.

That’s a really good point Exstar.

If you wait long enough between renewals SA will also send you discount codes for 25 - 33% off your membership if you re-sign. I know a lot of guys on TNT share those around when they come up.

[BennyB]

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very happy to see finally SB or seeking is getting some solid discussions and here are my two cents:
* i have started using seeking back in 2016 and i think that was the best time to find gems - i had over 100 to 200 SB up to date mostly around 20yrs and all ethinicity and mostly in sydney
* i have slowed down during last year partially due to covid but more due to the changes in SB industry - its a bit like bitcoin that the best time to buy would be when it started and unfortunately its not the best time now - there are way too many "experienced" SB now especially compared to 2016 and not to mentiom scammers or professionals etc - no disrespect but this means the value has deteriorated significantly
* to me it feels like the best time for private was 2011-13 and for SB was 2016-18 - again im talking about the chance of finding gems
* happy to share some of my experience further if anyone is interested - i have been using this forum a bit but has not really contributed much

Really interesting observations you make ASDF. What would you recommend as the next wave, if not Sugarbabes?

Privates aren’t getting any cheaper and service isn’t getting any better?

[Riff888]

someone earlier in the thread mentioned there was already a web book out there just about this and the Australian SB scene...
I looked but couldn't find it...It's on the TNT forum, they have a 150 page guide to the SD/SB scene but you need to subscribe for $120 for 5 months to access it.

I believe Mr Benny's goal is to get as many subscriptions to TNT from this forum. I also believe he's mainly based in Melbourne.

I posted a review of Leena that I wrote on this forum on TNT, I used the same username as a test. A week later my access was removed. So someone told the moderator about me. Not banned, they said subscription was welcomed.

Anyway I'm biting the bullet and paying the subscription.

I will keep this forum up to date.

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[BennyB]

Absolutely, as in the girl I'm with, had stuff all information in her profile, the thing that attracted me is she is a country girl and also was in my area which is the Newcastle region. She seemed shy and a bit reserved when we were messaging.
When we met she was as nervous as one could get, and admitted I was her first ever meeting with a SD.
That made me work harder to see where we could go, and over the last 2 years it has been a journey of discovery with her.
She was happy to meet for coffee with no strings attached, and had very few preconceptions unlike a lot of the "professional" SB's

Good work by you to connect with her before the wolves and slobs had scared her off.

Can you remember how long she had been on the site before you connected with her online and how long it took to get an in person meeting with her?

[BennyB]

Just another form of prostitution for the "more money than brains club"..............That's gotta get a bite

We’re all on here to celebrate prostitution.

Which part of that did you miss?

[BennyB]

Mate, you should write a book... so many insights and I believe you just seeded the thought of SB to so many in our forum including me... I have just enrolled in Secretbenefits and got few messages.. hope i can convert a few...

Someone already beat me to that sadly.

Regarding Secret Benefits, watch your shirt. You can burn through a lot of credits for very little return. It’s not yet a mature business model.

[warwick1]

We’re all on here to celebrate prostitution.

Which part of that did you miss?

None Einstein , it's been around for thousands of years, nothing to celebrate............

[Rogeryou]

Don't really give a shit, have a nice day........But it is still prostitution no matter how you want to spin it

No one is trying to spin anything mate, we all know what it is. All we are saying is it’s far better value, more enjoyable and far between quality girls.

[warwick1]

No one is trying to spin anything mate, we all know what it is. All we are saying is it’s far better value, more enjoyable and far between quality girls.

Ok mate whatever you think............have a lovely day

[gkpuntin]

At what point do you bring up the possibility of BB fun? Is it something you discuss explicitly or just let play out in the moment?

[BennyB]

I find that guys who come onto punting forums to sneer and denigrate without contributing anything of value, generally behave the same way in their personal lives when they don't have the safety of the keyboard.

They are generally the same guys holding their own dicks on a Saturday night.

[BennyB]

someone earlier in the thread mentioned there was already a web book out there just about this and the Australian SB scene...
I looked but couldn't find it...


Mea Culpa it was me.

There are a couple of books on Amazon that are really dated - they came out about 10-12 years ago when Seeking was in its infancy. I've read them but think they offer little of value (mainly one guy's story about his time on the website).

Then there are a couple of books by women on how to bleed a guy dry. They have limited value - if you know what to watch out for.

The best book I have found for the Australian scene is called The Smoking Guide to Dating Sugarbabes. Just google it and you will find a link.

[juscruisin58]

Good work by you to connect with her before the wolves and slobs had scared her off.

Can you remember how long she had been on the site before you connected with her online and how long it took to get an in person meeting with her?

She had been on the site for about 4 days, and I was the first guy who didn't suggest we go straight to kick, as too a lot of girls, that means sex discussion is the first topic "top of mind"

We met up within the first week just for coffee and to assure her I was real, and see if we liked each other, then a couple of days later head dinner.

[Riff888]

@celine0202 would love your opinion on this subject.

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[ASDF]

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Really interesting observations you make ASDF. What would you recommend as the next wave, if not Sugarbabes?

Privates aren’t getting any cheaper and service isn’t getting any better?

hahaha thats the million dollar question mate and i would love to hear from anyone that has any insight!

perosnally i think theres still a lot more potentials with SB industry if it can somehow discourage the professionals or some apps etc that is targeting a niche market

[BennyB]

hahaha thats the million dollar question mate and i would love to hear from anyone that has any insight!

perosnally i think theres still a lot more potentials with SB industry if it can somehow discourage the professionals or some apps etc that is targeting a niche market

I know a few sex workers that signed up to SA (Euro brothel girls and also Privates) and for different reasons:

- to find an alternative marketing channel
- to find guys that want more than a 30 minute fuck and go
- to help them through lockdowns (some were advertising their onlyfans through SA)

in a post lockdown world in Sydney and Melbourne, it will be interesting to see how many will drift off the sites.

In Brisbane and GC, which did not see lockdowns, I found very few professionals on SA up there. Hopefully the same will happen in Sydney and Melbourne.

[gthgrt]

For those who have recently made the switch.

In your opinion, how much would someone have to be spending per week/month on ML/WL's, to make the switch to SB's a reasonable choice?

Has your weekly/monthly spend increased since switching to SB's?

Have you seen or thought about seeing an ML/WL since you started seeing SB's?

[ASDF]

I know a few sex workers that signed up to SA (Euro brothel girls and also Privates) and for different reasons:

- to find an alternative marketing channel
- to find guys that want more than a 30 minute fuck and go
- to help them through lockdowns (some were advertising their onlyfans through SA)

in a post lockdown world in Sydney and Melbourne, it will be interesting to see how many will drift off the sites.

In Brisbane and GC, which did not see lockdowns, I found very few professionals on SA up there. Hopefully the same will happen in Sydney and Melbourne.

interesting but not surprising i guess for Brisbane and GC - but i feel like the demand in syd will probably still be there at least in the short term unless for some reasons the economy is totally gone and unemployment is going through the roof...

[ASDF]

For those who have recently made the switch.

In your opinion, how much would someone have to be spending per week/month on ML/WL's, to make the switch to SB's a reasonable choice?

Has your weekly/monthly spend increased since switching to SB's?

Have you seen or thought about seeing an ML/WL since you started seeing SB's?

i actually kept track of all the expense i spent and its around 25k to 30k pa on SB in total or averaging around 500 to 600 per meet when i was quite active.. im by no means very generous if at all and quite picky with the SB like no upfront payment etc. This is definitely a lot more expensive compared to previously even with when i was seeing the medium to higher end private

[Rogeryou]

For those who have recently made the switch.

In your opinion, how much would someone have to be spending per week/month on ML/WL's, to make the switch to SB's a reasonable choice?

Has your weekly/monthly spend increased since switching to SB's?

Have you seen or thought about seeing an ML/WL since you started seeing SB's?

The thing is you don’t have to do a weekly allowance you just pay per meet. So you can meet a girl pay her 400-500 hundred and spend the entire day or over night and never see her again man it’s fucken gold. You negotiate the date the money the time!

[BennyB]

At what point do you bring up the possibility of BB fun? Is it something you discuss explicitly or just let play out in the moment?

My preference is to always go BB.

So there are two considerations in this

1. I need to be comfortable with her sexual health and the risk of pregnancy
2. She needs to be comfortable with my sexual health and the risk of pregnancy

My preference is to talk about both without killing the moment when you are about to slip inside her. That’s why I prefer to pre-meet. I can weave in suggestions about testing, results, vasectomies, birth control, etc.

There’s no great mood killer than doing all this when you are naked in bed?

[StiFFFy]

Don't bother getting comfortable warwick1.
With a comment like that as a throwaway you will find no joy of agreement in this discussion.


It's not worth the effort in replying to his obvious bait Thai.
Second day I was here he(?) made my VIP list; it's a far better alternative than to have to get worked up over a child posting edgy bait.

Back on topic:
I'm getting mixed signals for SB; is the cost a once off or ongoing, or as with any SW, it's up to the participants to agree?

[BennyB]

For those who have recently made the switch.

In your opinion, how much would someone have to be spending per week/month on ML/WL's, to make the switch to SB's a reasonable choice?

Has your weekly/monthly spend increased since switching to SB's?

Have you seen or thought about seeing an ML/WL since you started seeing SB's?

Hi Gthgrt

Your question assumes that someone punting has already reached a mature level of equilibrium in their punting and is clear on how much they are spending.

I would approach the question differently - and ask how how much discretionary income can you free up by revisiting where you are currently spending your cash. There is so much money that we leak on a weekly or monthly basis that could be better spent / invested elsewhere.

When I started out, I was probably spending $150 a week on hand jobs. Then I went on a private WL spree and was spending the current equivalent of a few thousand a month. That became unsustainable eventually - especially as I was quarantining funds from prying eyes at home.

I fell on that book I mentioned early on in punting Sugarbabes and it made me rethink a number of spending categories. I ended up free up a lot of cash flow by just not spending it on crap I did not need and by reducing wasteful spend in other categories. I now spend about $25-30k per annum on Sugarbabes. That's not on one girl. I feel like I'm fucking at least 15-20 different girls each year. I like the variety.

You have to figure out what you can free up and what you want to spend.

[BennyB]

It's not worth the effort in replying to his obvious bait Thai.
Second day I was here he(?) made my VIP list; it's a far better alternative than to have to get worked up over a child posting edgy bait.

Back on topic:
I'm getting mixed signals for SB; is the cost a once off or ongoing, or as with any SW, it's up to the participants to agree?


Hi Stiffy - as above - if you read through this thread you'll find lots of feedback on PPM vs allowances.

If you mean can you pay her once and then fuck her for free forever, well that's optimistic. Everyone wants something?

[gthgrt]

Hi Gthgrt

Your question assumes that someone punting has already reached a mature level of equilibrium in their punting and is clear on how much they are spending.

I would approach the question differently - and ask how how much discretionary income can you free up by revisiting where you are currently spending your cash. There is so much money that we leak on a weekly or monthly basis that could be better spent / invested elsewhere.

When I started out, I was probably spending $150 a week on hand jobs. Then I went on a private WL spree and was spending the current equivalent of a few thousand a month. That became unsustainable eventually - especially as I was quarantining funds from prying eyes at home.

I fell on that book I mentioned early on in punting Sugarbabes and it made me rethink a number of spending categories. I ended up free up a lot of cash flow by just not spending it on crap I did not need and by reducing wasteful spend in other categories. I now spend about $25-30k per annum on Sugarbabes. That's not on one girl. I feel like I'm fucking at least 15-20 different girls each year. I like the variety.

You have to figure out what you can free up and what you want to spend.

When asking the question about, how much someone would have to be spending on ML's/WL's before it would be worthwile to make the switch to SB's. I was hoping for an answer like - If you aren't prepared to spend at least $? per ?, then stick to punting. Intead you advise me to free up as much cash as I can.
It seems that your answer is that people should ignore what they currently spend on punting, don't try to put a base value on the SB experience, just free up as much cash as you can before joining in.

[Riff888]

When asking the question about, how much someone would have to be spending on ML's/WL's before it would be worthwile to make the switch to SB's. I was hoping for an answer like - If you aren't prepared to spend at least $? per ?, then stick to punting. Intead you advise me to free up as much cash as I can.
It seems that your answer is that people should ignore what they currently spend on punting, don't try to put a base value on the SB experience, just free up as much cash as you can before joining in.It depends on how your relationship progresses.

When I first met my main SB, it was $600 for the first visit then $450 ongoing meets.

This turned into $350, then it was transfer $100 here and there.

I've been giving her just $200 lately but I do transfer money to her on days I don't see her so on average $400 per week.

Punting 3 times a week was about $750, probably more now if I see Leena.

Just try to connect and see if you click with the girls.

Trial and error too I guess.

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[BennyB]

I agree with Riff’s analysis above.

One-offs are expensive. Ongoing is cheaper in the end. Connection makes negotiating down the price easier.

@Gthgrt - I don’t have a crystal ball into your punting habits or funds. How many hours a week do you punt and how much do you currently spend per hour?

[sync3d3d]

thanks all to the ones that have shared their experiences! Something that always had my curioisity.

Im curious if you guys are messaging alot of girls in hope of hits and the response rate is pretty high? or are girls reaching out to you. (taling about with paid account of course!)

[BennyB]

thanks all to the ones that have shared their experiences! Something that always had my curioisity.

Im curious if you guys are messaging alot of girls in hope of hits and the response rate is pretty high? or are girls reaching out to you. (taling about with paid account of course!)

My thoughts:

1. I don't do canned messages and I don't spam lots of girls with intros. It works for others but not for me.

2. I don't reply to the ones who reach out to me with "Hiya" "Hey" or their own canned message - she's probably just spamming heaps of guys for the highest PPM and I'm not playing

3. If a girl has not read my profile and sends me a message, I don't respond - same as above

All of those have a high chance of being time wasters, wanting online arrangements (whatever that is supposed to be) or scammers. So I don't bother with them.

[exstar]

@BennyB - what is your approach to the SBs who request your private photos without building any rapport first, but they actually interest you?

[BennyB]

@BennyB - what is your approach to the SBs who request your private photos without building any rapport first, but they actually interest you?

They've got no chance.

In the same way that the girls get annoyed when we ask for their private photos without striking up a conversation, I'm not handing over mine without them making an effort in return.

Note - the girls don't pay to chat. They get that for free. So the least they can do is make an effort?

[hiduba]

I've been quietly following this conversation with great interest and am thanking the gurus with their experience and insights into the world of sugar babies / dating.

Thank you in advance for everything everyone's been sharing. I'm not at a stage in my life which I'm ready to jump into this world yet but grateful regardless.


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[Bigburd]

There does not seem to be an iPhone app for SA?

[BennyB]

Hi Bigburd

There is no app for SA. Available through web browser.

[exstar]

They've got no chance.

In the same way that the girls get annoyed when we ask for their private photos without striking up a conversation, I'm not handing over mine without them making an effort in return.

Note - the girls don't pay to chat. They get that for free. So the least they can do is make an effort?

Fair point / my approach, only if the girl is of interest, in my current iteration is to firstly strike a convo and if they respond then great but if not then they are struck off. Kinda keeps them keen if they respond. Sometimes it’s a newbie mistake of theirs to request photos straight up.

[exstar]

Hi Bigburd

There is no app for SA. Available through web browser.

Actually used to be an app available 3/4 years ago, but it seems to have been taken away from the App Store. Whether voluntary or forced is not clear.

[Riff888]

No, there is an app for Android, it's the one I've been using. It works great.76771

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[exstar]

No, there is an app for Android, it's the one I've been using. It works great.76771

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Ahh there you go, used to be one for iOS too - perhaps Apple is more restrictive about this kind of app

[BennyB]

That's good to know.

I'm sadly locked into the Apple infrastructure. No chance of an exit.

[juscruisin58]

No, there is an app for Android, it's the one I've been using. It works great.76771

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Hey Riff888, how did you attach the pic?
Cheers

[gthgrt]

It depends on how your relationship progresses.

When I first met my main SB, it was $600 for the first visit then $450 ongoing meets.

This turned into $350, then it was transfer $100 here and there.

I've been giving her just $200 lately but I do transfer money to her on days I don't see her so on average $400 per week.

Punting 3 times a week was about $750, probably more now if I see Leena.

Just try to connect and see if you click with the girls.

Trial and error too I guess.

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Thanks for the response Riff888

[gthgrt]

I agree with Riff’s analysis above.

One-offs are expensive. Ongoing is cheaper in the end. Connection makes negotiating down the price easier.

@Gthgrt - I don’t have a crystal ball into your punting habits or funds. How many hours a week do you punt and how much do you currently spend per hour?

I'm not asking for a tailor-made pakage designed to meet my individual situation, just general information.

[cumquat]

BTW who authored the DIY how too self help sugar daddy dating book , that is being sold on the naked truth (TNT)?

I do seem too recall awhile ago someone here was saying they were.. anyone want too fess up ?

[limbi8888]

Good morning gentlemen - thank you to whoever started this thread. I’m new to au99 but not new to Sugar Dating as I’ve been using SA and SDM for the past four years. I’ll try to add some value here for those who are curious or just starting out.

I never pay more than $400 for a meet. Meets generally last 2-4 hours, depending on whether I’m having a good time.

In saying that, I’m 40, look mid 30’s, keep myself fit, work in a professional environment, put up photos that reflect an upmarket experience, etc

I paid $500 a couple of times in the beginning when I had no idea what I was doing, but have since had $400 as my cut-off. I aim to move this down to $300 over time.

I pick the ones that seem like normal girls just on SA / SDM for a bit of fun, not pros, who have their own careers or are uni students with lower expectations. So money is not the deciding factor. A good time and the possibility of great sex with a decent sounding older guy is what they can expect - then the money is a bonus. It’s like a tinder date, without wasting their time with a possible psycho.

A number of girls say no thanks. Then 2-3 weeks later they are back and interested when they realize its a good offer, and if they play their part, there could be multiple dates.

Thanks mate, i'm considering this now as punting is almost as expensive and you are always watching the clock

[limbi8888]

Hi Gthgrt

Your question assumes that someone punting has already reached a mature level of equilibrium in their punting and is clear on how much they are spending.

I would approach the question differently - and ask how how much discretionary income can you free up by revisiting where you are currently spending your cash. There is so much money that we leak on a weekly or monthly basis that could be better spent / invested elsewhere.

When I started out, I was probably spending $150 a week on hand jobs. Then I went on a private WL spree and was spending the current equivalent of a few thousand a month. That became unsustainable eventually - especially as I was quarantining funds from prying eyes at home.

I fell on that book I mentioned early on in punting Sugarbabes and it made me rethink a number of spending categories. I ended up free up a lot of cash flow by just not spending it on crap I did not need and by reducing wasteful spend in other categories. I now spend about $25-30k per annum on Sugarbabes. That's not on one girl. I feel like I'm fucking at least 15-20 different girls each year. I like the variety.

You have to figure out what you can free up and what you want to spend.

Any chance you can PM the link for this book?

[BennyB]

I'm not asking for a tailor-made pakage designed to meet my individual situation, just general information.

Realistically you will spend a minimum of $400 a meet. That's the minimum someone starting out could expect to spend.

Lower than that is girls I would not sleep with.

You then have to work out how many of those $400 a meet sessions you can afford in the first month or two until you can negotiate someone into an allowance or a better PPM.

[BennyB]

BTW who authored the DIY how too self help sugar daddy dating book , that is being sold on the naked truth (TNT)?

I do seem too recall awhile ago someone here was saying they were.. anyone want too fess up ?


I definitely mentioned it. May have been the first to. Although I do recall seeing another mention of it, or the TNT Sugarbabe forum too.

I wish I had written it. Damn thing should be on Amazon, not a private forum! It's like reading The Game (for Sugarbabes).

[BennyB]

Any chance you can PM the link for this book?

Sure I can PM you. Cheers

[StiFFFy]

Sure I can PM you. Cheers+1?

Always on the lookout for functional reading

[Riff888]

I'll be happy to share a free copy on a public dropbox, no need to pay $120 subscription fees.

PM me.

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[Riff888]

I definitely mentioned it. May have been the first to. Although I do recall seeing another mention of it, or the TNT Sugarbabe forum too.

I wish I had written it. Damn thing should be on Amazon, not a private forum! It's like reading The Game (for Sugarbabes).Hi Benny
Since you already have access to this book.

Would you be so kind as to put it in a dropbox for all the bothers of this forum?

We tend to share things here, like information or even Kamagra.

I'll even trow in a box of Kamagra, pick up from the front of Woollies Townhall.

Thank you in advance.

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[BennyB]

Hi Benny
Since you already have access to this book.

Would you be so kind as to put it in a dropbox for all the bothers of this forum?

We tend to share things here, like information or even Kamagra.

I'll even trow in a box of Kamagra, pick up from the front of Woollies Townhall.

Thank you in advance.

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I do share things Riff. I've written over 150 posts on Au99 about Sugarbabes that other members seem to have found valuable.

All I've read from you are whiny comments (although I've had some very nice messages from other members suggesting I ignore you and don't waste my time).

Giving away something that someone else invested time and effort crafting wouldn't be my way of doing things. It's not mine to give away.

[Riff888]

I do share things Riff. I've written over 150 posts on Au99 about Sugarbabes that other members seem to have found valuable.

All I've read from you are whiny comments (although I've had some very nice messages from other members suggesting I ignore you and don't waste my time).

Giving away something that someone else invested time and effort crafting wouldn't be my way of doing things. It's not mine to give away.Yes thought as much.

Well I'm getting plenty of hits about the link.

Brothers, no need to PM me, I'll just put the link here.

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[BennyB]

Great initiative Riff

I'm sure you will send even more traffic to the forum that kicked you out.

You are the gift that keeps on giving.

[Rogeryou]

I agree with Riff’s analysis above.

One-offs are expensive. Ongoing is cheaper in the end. Connection makes negotiating down the price easier.

@Gthgrt - I don’t have a crystal ball into your punting habits or funds. How many hours a week do you punt and how much do you currently spend per hour?

I am absolutely LOVING the one offs, PPM is king for me. A $400 PPM is giving me a minimum of 3 hours often more. I have a $700 PPM coming up overnight 🤗 yeah baby, fucken bargin.
I recommending putting your pic on public, I had to take mine down as it was just too much

[BennyB]

I am absolutely LOVING the one offs, PPM is king for me. A $400 PPM is giving me a minimum of 3 hours often more. I have a $700 PPM coming up overnight �� yeah baby, fucken bargin.
I recommending putting your pic on public, I had to take mine down as it was just too much

Great to hear you are having such a good time Roger.

3 hours is usually enough for me - I'm too old to go more than 2-3 rounds :-)

I do overnights with regulars when we go away - are you overnighting with a one off, or with someone you have seen before from the site?

[Rogeryou]

Great to hear you are having such a good time Roger.

3 hours is usually enough for me - I'm too old to go more than 2-3 rounds :-)

I do overnights with regulars when we go away - are you overnighting with a one off, or with someone you have seen before from the site?

It’s far more relaxing to have the time and not be rushed is what I like about it.. The quality is better on the site with genuine young babes.

Haven’t done the over night yet it’s booked

[Riff888]

It’s far more relaxing to have the time and not be rushed is what I like about it.. The quality is better on the site with genuine young babes.

Haven’t done the over night yet it’s bookedHaha good for you mate.

Safe to assume it's not the Filo girl [emoji3526]

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[Rogeryou]

Haha good for you mate.

Safe to assume it's not the Filo girl [emoji3526]

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The filo scares me because she doesn’t say no to anything 😋

I chatted up that Asian bird you recommend down to the last stage of setting up the date. She got cut when I told her expected a CIM. Spewing fuck she looked hot.

I just have to point out to ppl if you go on the site there are fucken heaps of scammers. Do not give anyone a deposit. I have written it on my profile that I don’t do deposits so I don’t have my times wasted.

[Riff888]

The filo scares me because she doesn’t say no to anything [emoji39]

I chatted up that Asian bird you recommend down to the last stage of setting up the date. She got cut when I told her expected a CIM. Spewing fuck she looked hot.

I just have to point out to ppl if you go on the site there are fucken heaps of scammers. Do not give anyone a deposit. I have written it on my profile that I don’t do deposits so I don’t have my times wasted.Filo chicks were freaks when I was in my teens and 20s, along with Lebanese girls.

I wouldn't be scared mate, embrace it.

I wouldn't mention CIM until you are doing the deed and she can either say yes or no.

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[Rogeryou]

Filo chicks were freaks when I was in my teens and 20s, along with Lebanese girls.

I wouldn't be scared mate, embrace it.

I wouldn't mention CIM until you are doing the deed and she can either say yes or no.

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Fucken rookie error man I was super keen on that one

[Riff888]

Fucken rookie error man I was super keen on that oneJust a punter's instinct [emoji23]

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[gthgrt]

Realistically you will spend a minimum of $400 a meet. That's the minimum someone starting out could expect to spend.

Lower than that is girls I would not sleep with.

You then have to work out how many of those $400 a meet sessions you can afford in the first month or two until you can negotiate someone into an allowance or a better PPM.

This was how I ended up looking at it as well. What would the minimum cost per meet be without hosting?

For the first meet, start with the SA membership fee $100, add the cost of a date and room, lets say you somehow manage to keep it to $100, then the $400 ppm fee. You will be up to $600 for your first meet. This is assuming you can seal the deal with a single cheap-arse date and get a good deal on a room. Realistically, the dates (multiple) and room will cost more, plus any extras - dinner, drinks, wine, chocolates, etc.
If you need to date several SB's multiple times before you find one that is prepared to progress to the paid meet, you could possibly spend more on the dating part than the ppm fee. Making the overall cost closer to $1000.

Going forward, with repeat visits you may be able to negotiate a better deal, but whatever the ppm fee is, you will have to add room costs, plus any extras - dinner, drinks, wine, chocolates, etc. I doubt many SB's would be impressed if you just meet & fuck.

If you want variety, and want to avoid the complications that come with developing a more personal relationship with a single SB, then your ongoing cost will be higher, as you will be repeating the process required for the first meet, just without the SA subsciption.

I think SD's might understate the overall cost of the SB experience, as they see these extras as gits, not as part of the fee, just them spoiling their SB.
This is speculation, based on what I've read here. I have no SD experience.

[BennyB]

This was how I ended up looking at it as well. What would the minimum cost per meet be without hosting?

For the first meet, start with the SA membership fee $100, add the cost of a date and room, lets say you somehow manage to keep it to $100, then the $400 ppm fee. You will be up to $600 for your first meet. This is assuming you can seal the deal with a single cheap-arse date and get a good deal on a room. Realistically, the dates (multiple) and room will cost more, plus any extras - dinner, drinks, wine, chocolates, etc.
If you need to date several SB's multiple times before you find one that is prepared to progress to the paid meet, you could possibly spend more on the dating part than the ppm fee. Making the overall cost closer to $1000.

Going forward, with repeat visits you may be able to negotiate a better deal, but whatever the ppm fee is, you will have to add room costs, plus any extras - dinner, drinks, wine, chocolates, etc. I doubt many SB's would be impressed if you just meet & fuck.

If you want variety, and want to avoid the complications that come with developing a more personal relationship with a single SB, then your ongoing cost will be higher, as you will be repeating the process required for the first meet, just without the SA subsciption.

I think SD's might understate the overall cost of the SB experience, as they see these extras as gits, not as part of the fee, just them spoiling their SB.
This is speculation, based on what I've read here. I have no SD experience.

Those are fair questions and comments. Certainly if you look at it as a once off or if you are particularly looking at it in just quantitative measures, then it may not be for you.

I tried to summarize it earlier in this thread in two ways -

1. What I think the difference is in the experience and

2. what I spend over a year, how many hours I get for that and how many rounds of sex I get.

I’m not young enough to go two rounds in 30 minutes, or an hour, nor do I value that kind of experience. I can go three rounds in 3-4 hours though, so I want a longer experience. And don’t like paying $400 - $800 an hour with a private. That would cost me thousands per meet if I wanted that kind of time.

I’ve added up my bills and my estimate is that I spend $25 - 30,000 a year on Sugarbabes. I punt once a week with Sugarbabes and I go 2-3 rounds each time on average. My shortest date would be 4 hours. The longest would be an overnight or a weekend.

I don’t have to deal with bait and switches, the clock, the time wasting with inspecting my junk, making me shower, etc. My average cost per hour is between $120 - $130 an hour. With good looking 20-something European women. They look good on my arm and good naked. It’s fun in the bedroom and out. I get multiple girlfriends without the hang ups.

If you can find me better value for my money or my time please tell me where. I’m not precious if there is a better answer for what I’m looking for. I’ll be right over :-)

[Blue007]

Those are fair questions and comments. Certainly if you look at it as a once off or if you are particularly looking at it in just quantitative measures, then it may not be for you.

I tried to summarize it earlier in this thread in two ways -

1. What I think the difference is in the experience and

2. what I spend over a year, how many hours I get for that and how many rounds of sex I get.

I’m not young enough to go two rounds in 30 minutes, or an hour, nor do I value that kind of experience. I can go three rounds in 3-4 hours though, so I want a longer experience. And don’t like paying $400 - $800 an hour with a private. That would cost me thousands per meet if I wanted that kind of time.

I’ve added up my bills and my estimate is that I spend $25 - 30,000 a year on Sugarbabes. I punt once a week with Sugarbabes and I go 2-3 rounds each time on average. My shortest date would be 4 hours. The longest would be an overnight or a weekend.

I don’t have to deal with bait and switches, the clock, the time wasting with inspecting my junk, making me shower, etc. My average cost per hour is between $120 - $130 an hour. With good looking 20-something European women. They look good on my arm and good naked. It’s fun in the bedroom and out. I get multiple girlfriends without the hang ups.

If you can find me better value for my money or my time please tell me where. I’m not precious if there is a better answer for what I’m looking for. I’ll be right over :-)

Hi Benny, thanks for your input really appreciate your insight. Just a question as you have a partner, how do you avoid getting caught by her. I'm assuming you can't be seen taking the sugar baby out to the mall or dinner and how do explain you disappearing for a few hours or overnight?

[StiFFFy]

Hey matey, I'm yet to have a dip in this pool, but this is what I did to hide some former habits:

"Sorry babe I was out drinking with the boys then we went to Barry's place for some smokes because everything was closed and I crashed on the couch" get Barry to back your story up as well, shout him a six pack.

Or "Daz needed a hand with some mechanical work on the Ute /his pc blew up and we got a bit pissed as the beers were flowing"

"Working late, probably will be sleeping under the desk/car again :/ Don't wait up for me love"

Biggest advice, sit down and think really hard about the suburbs and places your SO is visiting and plan everything outside of that. Don't go to places she may have friends/family as well.

Messaging SB, if via text, get an app with self destructive messages. Signal is good as it can be pinned.

As for funds, cash is always king as it isn't tracable. Take small amounts out thru the week/month for "coffee and smokes and lunch" and stash em in the same place as your porno/toys/drugs. I'm a tall guy so for me it was always right at the back top of the cupboards.

Happy Punting

[juscruisin58]

Hi Benny, thanks for your input really appreciate your insight. Just a question as you have a partner, how do you avoid getting caught by her. I'm assuming you can't be seen taking the sugar baby out to the mall or dinner and how do explain you disappearing for a few hours or overnight?

Did you read the full thread, he travels interstate for work

[zl140]

I don't know why most of you blokes don't just go out and meet chicks in pubs and interests groups etc. Save a lot of issues that you guys are always talking about.

I don't know why you're still hanging around on this website if you're truly what you suggest others to do

[monkeybusiness]

Finally a thread about Sugar dating!

Myself joined SA for almost 3 years and I think it’s the best thing ever!

Love to share some stories and tips but I will start off with this funny one:

A friend of mine let his sugarbaby living in his harbour view apartment at Milsons Point in exchange of 10 sex a month (he doesn’t live there). He said the capital gain from that apartment will be more than enough to cover the money he spent on her … smart right?

Few weeks ago he told me the building manager rang him said his sugarbaby keep bringing different guys into the building every few hours 😂

[BennyB]

Hi Benny, thanks for your input really appreciate your insight. Just a question as you have a partner, how do you avoid getting caught by her. I'm assuming you can't be seen taking the sugar baby out to the mall or dinner and how do explain you disappearing for a few hours or overnight?

Hey Blue

You are right. It’s tricky when you have a partner. But it’s the same thing when you are out punting?

Travelling for work on business helps me move around a bit and have options in different states.

If this option is not available to you then some basic good habits at home can also work

- Don’t punt close to home. You are correct, you don’t want to be seen out with someone by your friends, or your partner’s

- Aim for Sugarbabes that suit your lifestyle. If you are married, don’t go for the clingy types who constantly want you on tap. Pick the ones who are happy with something low key and casual

- When I’m at home, as I am this week, I have one Sugarbabe who I take for lunch and then we go back to her place. The other one I see when I’m home I have to get a hotel / airbnb but again I try to punt during working hours. I don’t do overnights at home in Sydney - unless my partner is away visiting her family interstate.

- Have a friend who can vouch for you. Honey I’m off to see Steve and we’re going to the races, etc.

- If you are limited for time, find girls who can be flexible and who don’t mind the thrill of fucking a married / partnered man. There are many girls out there who get a kick out of it

- get a punting phone or use comms apps that are not apparent - Signal, kik, Telegram, etc

- There’s a whole chapter on how not to get sprung in the book I recommended.

- Stiffy’s post above has some good tips. Sounds like a man who has been there.

[BennyB]

Hi Benny, thanks for your input really appreciate your insight. Just a question as you have a partner, how do you avoid getting caught by her. I'm assuming you can't be seen taking the sugar baby out to the mall or dinner and how do explain you disappearing for a few hours or overnight?


And lastly - the most important thing - never ever give your partner a reason to not believe you, or to think that you are cheating on her. Once her radar is up, you are fucked.

I’m sure you are just as careful in your normal punting life. The same rules apply.

[StiFFFy]

Did you read the full thread, he travels interstate for work


Hey Blue

You are right. It’s tricky when you have a partner.

- Stiffy’s post above has some good tips. Sounds like a man who has been there.

Eat your fekkin heart out Cruisin! [emoji8]
Thanks Benny, but no, this is a first for me; it was different kind of activity (juggling 3 crazy shielas).
I think you should do a book Benny. You seem plump full info. I'd buy it.

[BennyB]

Eat your fekkin heart out Cruisin! [emoji8]
Thanks Benny, but no, this is a first for me; it was different kind of activity (juggling 3 crazy shielas).
I think you should do a book Benny. You seem plump full info. I'd buy it.

Juscruisin is living the life. Hot 20-something on tap who’s in love with an older man. Most guys have to go to Thailand to find that.

Juggling 3 crazy women Stiffy? Sounds like you are the perfect fit for punting Sugarbabes.

Most of it is common sense. I had a couple of good mentors when I started out punting and they kept me on the straight and narrow. And my balls out of divorce court.

Reading the detailed reviews from guys who were punting Sugarbabes also helped my game.

[BennyB]

Finally a thread about Sugar dating!

Myself joined SA for almost 3 years and I think it’s the best thing ever!

Love to share some stories and tips but I will start off with this funny one:

A friend of mine let his sugarbaby living in his harbour view apartment at Milsons Point in exchange of 10 sex a month (he doesn’t live there). He said the capital gain from that apartment will be more than enough to cover the money he spent on her … smart right?

Few weeks ago he told me the building manager rang him said his sugarbaby keep bringing different guys into the building every few hours ��


This is fantastic Monkeybusiness. Classic story. I guess her parking space was free and so she rented it out?

[juscruisin58]

Eat your fekkin heart out Cruisin! [emoji8]

Thanks for your support BennyB

StiFFFy, Don't need to my fecking eat my heart out for you or anybody else.

If as I suggested, if people had read the full thread, not only would the other poster realise BennyB travels frequently for work, therefore able to meet SB's regularly, You would have realised, I am in a longterm, exclusive arrangement with a 24 yr old (I am 56), we have been together just on 2 years and she now lives with me.
So, I am VERY HAPPY with my arrangement thanks

[StiFFFy]

Thanks for your support BennyB

StiFFFy, Don't need to my fecking eat my heart out for you or anybody else.

If as I suggested, if people had read the full thread, not only would the other poster realise BennyB travels frequently for work, therefore able to meet SB's regularly, You would have realised, I am in a longterm, exclusive arrangement with a 24 yr old (I am 56), we have been together just on 2 years and she now lives with me.
So, I am VERY HAPPY with my arrangement thanksThis is why communication in person is superior; text just doesn't have the same impact. I wasn't being a 2 inch dildo matey, just stirring a bit. Guess forum doesn't do emojis well.
Back on topic, what website have you had the greatest success with?

[BennyB]

I thought it was all in jest myself.

Over the past three years I’ve probably had 80% of my SBs from Seeking. The remainder from SDM.

I’m sure others will have views on which sites they get the most out of.

The most reviews of sex meets I read are on Seeking.

[BennyB]

This is why communication in person is superior; text just doesn't have the same impact.

Stiffy you just touched on the clincher for me. Meet in person before you play. I think it's essential.

If you are shelling out a few hundred for a punt, you want to know that the pretty face is real and that the chemistry in person is at least as good as it is on text.

Buying on photos (Scarlet Blue / E&B bait and switch anyone?) is just fools gold.

[gthgrt]

Those are fair questions and comments. Certainly if you look at it as a once off or if you are particularly looking at it in just quantitative measures, then it may not be for you.

I tried to summarize it earlier in this thread in two ways -

1. What I think the difference is in the experience and

2. what I spend over a year, how many hours I get for that and how many rounds of sex I get.

I’m not young enough to go two rounds in 30 minutes, or an hour, nor do I value that kind of experience. I can go three rounds in 3-4 hours though, so I want a longer experience. And don’t like paying $400 - $800 an hour with a private. That would cost me thousands per meet if I wanted that kind of time.

I’ve added up my bills and my estimate is that I spend $25 - 30,000 a year on Sugarbabes. I punt once a week with Sugarbabes and I go 2-3 rounds each time on average. My shortest date would be 4 hours. The longest would be an overnight or a weekend.

I don’t have to deal with bait and switches, the clock, the time wasting with inspecting my junk, making me shower, etc. My average cost per hour is between $120 - $130 an hour. With good looking 20-something European women. They look good on my arm and good naked. It’s fun in the bedroom and out. I get multiple girlfriends without the hang ups.

If you can find me better value for my money or my time please tell me where. I’m not precious if there is a better answer for what I’m looking for. I’ll be right over :-)

I haven't posted anything about it not being good value.
I was just after a realistic understanding of what it would actually cost.
I don't have a better alternative for you.

Thanks to all the SD's for the information provided.

[BennyB]

I haven't posted anything about it not being good value.
I was just after a realistic understanding of what it would actually cost.
I don't have a better alternative for you.

Thanks to all the SD's for the information provided.

All good. I tried to use smiley face to show it was lighthearted.

I understand you were asking for factual information and I was just trying to help based on very little knowledge of what you were specifically looking for.

I prefer to give specific feedback rather than just general feedback. Punting appetites are different, capacity to spend is different and guys land girls at different prices.

The least I have paid for a one off meet on SA is $nil (that's happened three times, so it's rare). It was more sexting and hooking up. The most I have ever paid is $500 for a meet.

Sugarbabes are not uniform. YMMV with pricing and what you get.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Being a SD is definitely not for me, I don't have enough time to do the meet ups. When I feel the urge I just punt, simple as that and to be honest I couldn't put up with the shit that most of the younger generation go on about.

Good luck to all you guys that can.

I'm not trying to be nasty Benny, but this is beginning to look like an infomercial. Do you get anything out of it? And if you have all of these lovely young SBs that you like to spend many hours with why are you here so much?

[DireStraits]

Been reading this thread with great interest. Just thought I’d share an interesting viewpoint from the other side that I came upon:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/sebwa7/the_potential_ugly_side_for_sbs/

[BennyB]

Being a SD is definitely not for me, I don't have enough time to do the meet ups. When I feel the urge I just punt, simple as that and to be honest I couldn't put up with the shit that most of the younger generation go on about.

Good luck to all you guys that can.

I'm not trying to be nasty Benny, but this is beginning to look like an infomercial. Do you get anything out of it? And if you have all of these lovely young SBs that you like to spend many hours with why are you here so much?

Hi DCDIY (excuse the abbreviation but I did not want to stuff it up)

Do I get anything out of it? I like helping people, so that makes me feel good. No one is paying me, and I am not getting any kickbacks - you have advertisers on the forum for that.

Equally, you don't have to read it - and I'm not being nasty either - you can just change the channel? I'm just responding to what is asked. If the forum members on here don't find value in what I've shared please tell me. I don't want to waste anyone's time.

But to give you a bit more colour - when I started punting, it was after a sexless relationship break up. I spent way too much money on escorts and brothels. Like way too much. When I jumped onto Sugarbabes there was no information out there and no forum for it. I'm just sharing what I wish someone had taken the time and effort to share with me.

Isn't that what forums are about? Sharing...?

p.s. Did you like my Niko Delevingne review? I'd love to read some of yours too.

[BennyB]

Been reading this thread with great interest. Just thought I’d share an interesting viewpoint from the other side that I came upon:

https://www.reddit.com/r/sugarlifestyleforum/comments/sebwa7/the_potential_ugly_side_for_sbs/


Hey Dire Straits (great band btw) I posted it here for you for discussion

Posted byu/bubblerush
1 day ago
Wholesome

The potential ugly side for SBs.

Vent/Rantnsfw'

I’ve been a SB for a few years and I’ve met quite a few SBs along the way. I’ve seen an increased interest with these relationships since the pandemic, and I just wanted to share some things with aspiring/new SBs. One thing I can not stress enough is the fact that this is NOT easy. You come to learn very quickly that everything comes with a price, which is why I wanted to make a post about the uglier side of sugar dating because I find it’s not really talked about. Here are some of the things that many SBs experience. Obviously it’s very dependent on what type of SD you have but here are some common ones I’ve seen women struggle with.

You’ll get a lot of very judgmental looks while out in public with your SD. Looks of disgust or pity and it’s something you’ll have to get used to.

Depending on how long you do it; you’ll most likely lose friends and family. At the very least it will change the way they see you.

There will most likely come a time where you meet someone that you genuinely want a relationship with and you might need to walk away from it because of the lifestyle.

You’ll meet men that use financial support to manipulate you. You’ll need to have strong boundaries and a savings account or your mental health will take a hit.

If you’re doing this because you’re desperate for financial support, you’ll find yourself laying on a hotel bed with a man you’re disgusted with, staring at the ceiling and waiting for it to be over so you can take a hot shower. (Trust me you don’t want to get here)

Using things to cope with the lifestyle. I’ve seen this a lot and it’s a very dangerous habit. It’s not uncommon for girls to develop addictions while doing this.

Not being honest with yourself. I’ve seen many friends of mine try to talk themselves into having a better outlook on their sugar relationships. Be honest with yourself, if you’re unhappy take care of your mental health. Don’t try to convince yourself that you’re enjoying anything just to make it a little easier.

If you find the right SD it can be amazing but it takes time. Don’t rush anything out of desperation. Take care of yourself girls, nothing is worth damaging your mental health over.

[dotcumdotinyou]

Whenever someone tells me their trying to help me "because they like helping people" I check to make sure my wallet is still in my pocket.

I have many reviews, just click on my tag and scroll through. The longest was for girlclub there are many other short ones (good and bad) only because I'm not as eloquent as your good self. But thank you for your effort in trying to make it seem like I don't contribute here in an attempt to deflect from my point that you spend a lot of time on here countering negative comments

I agree that forums are for sharing that's why I'm here on a punting forum and not on SA. From what I see your advertising here and not paying for it, if I were an advertiser on this site I'd be complaining to admin about it. It seems some punters have stopped going to brothels and signing up to SA because of your selflessness, just one example Riff was a good customer of number 5 Marrickville but now he has a lovely Italian SB among others and doesn't seem to visit anymore.
That's why I think

[BennyB]

Thanks for your helpful reply DCDIY.

If more guys are out punting Sugarbabes then this will be a boon for you. Prices of WLs / MLs will come down and you will be the beneficiary.

You can buy me a beer one day as thanks.

[DireStraits]

It seems some punters have stopped going to brothels and signing up to SA because of your selflessness
Are they though? You’ve given one example, which hardly seems significant… are you aware of hordes more who’ve “stopped going to brothels and signing up to SA”, or are we getting a bit carried away there?

Assuming for the sake of argument though that it’s true… It may not be the direction that brothels like to see their regulars taking. But it is unquestionably giving punters more choice and from the sounds of it, more bang for their buck if they do it right. To me, that’s not a bad outcome for a punter, which I believe the vast majority of us here are :-)

[kiddoh]

Mates pls chill.

It’s a forum to discuss on everything and anything. I have seen lot of posts with some cool stuff and no so cool stuff as well.

Each one will have his own entitlement to pursue new options. Let’s be respectful of what each of them want to do and how to proceed. It’s their remit. No one is telling them what to do.

Healthy conversation always keeps our forum to grow and we learn from each of our mistakes and learn some new things to try such as review - 2 hole massage table. I have been browsing the 2 hole table after the review. It’s so new only a few places-have it.

Would I ditch my regular no way. But I would try it for sure.

Weather is great outside. Few beers and bbq for all of us!

[DireStraits]

Hey Dire Straits (great band btw) I posted it here for you for discussion

Posted byu/bubblerush
1 day ago
Wholesome

The potential ugly side for SBs.

Vent/Rantnsfw'

I’ve been a SB for a few years and I’ve met quite a few SBs along the way. I’ve seen an increased interest with these relationships since the pandemic, and I just wanted to share some things with aspiring/new SBs. One thing I can not stress enough is the fact that this is NOT easy. You come to learn very quickly that everything comes with a price, which is why I wanted to make a post about the uglier side of sugar dating because I find it’s not really talked about. Here are some of the things that many SBs experience. Obviously it’s very dependent on what type of SD you have but here are some common ones I’ve seen women struggle with.

You’ll get a lot of very judgmental looks while out in public with your SD. Looks of disgust or pity and it’s something you’ll have to get used to.

Depending on how long you do it; you’ll most likely lose friends and family. At the very least it will change the way they see you.

There will most likely come a time where you meet someone that you genuinely want a relationship with and you might need to walk away from it because of the lifestyle.

You’ll meet men that use financial support to manipulate you. You’ll need to have strong boundaries and a savings account or your mental health will take a hit.

If you’re doing this because you’re desperate for financial support, you’ll find yourself laying on a hotel bed with a man you’re disgusted with, staring at the ceiling and waiting for it to be over so you can take a hot shower. (Trust me you don’t want to get here)

Using things to cope with the lifestyle. I’ve seen this a lot and it’s a very dangerous habit. It’s not uncommon for girls to develop addictions while doing this.

Not being honest with yourself. I’ve seen many friends of mine try to talk themselves into having a better outlook on their sugar relationships. Be honest with yourself, if you’re unhappy take care of your mental health. Don’t try to convince yourself that you’re enjoying anything just to make it a little easier.

If you find the right SD it can be amazing but it takes time. Don’t rush anything out of desperation. Take care of yourself girls, nothing is worth damaging your mental health over.

Another interesting viewpoint in that thread…

Posted by Zealousideal-Emu:

“This post is soo soo important. SA is filled with literal hobbyists and men using it for discounted sex work services. These men take advantage of internalized whorephobia to get you to do the most for the least amount of compensation or you're not an SB you're a hooker.

If you're only getting paid to have sex, getting paid 3 figures, you know you can't ask your "SD" for anything significant financially then you don't have a sugar relationship. These kinds of guys are also super risking health-wise because they are having sex with other desperate people.

A great litmus test, are you getting 4 figures per date, do you have dates that don't involve sex, do you receive your allowance even if something comes up and you can't meet, can you ask your SD for significant help financially, emotionally, professionally and know he'll say yes without a quid pro quo request.”

[StiFFFy]

A great litmus test, are you getting 4 figures per date, do you have dates that don't involve sex, do you receive your allowance even if something comes up and you can't meet, can you ask your SD for significant help financially, emotionally, professionally and know he'll say yes without a quid pro quo request.”

Hang on, this is throwing red flags... If you're there for you SB and help emotionally when they need it, are you really an SD or just in yet another relationship?

Both parties have to realise that this is a transactional relationship, and just like any other, you need to draw the lines.
I'm going to sound like a masochist, but if you find yourself being the emotional tampon for someone it's time to bail as takers never know when to stop.



Hi DCDIY (excuse the abbreviation but I did not want to stuff it up)

Do I get anything out of it? I like helping people, so that makes me feel good. No one is paying me, and I am not getting any kickbacks - you have advertisers on the forum for that.



On yer Benny!

[dotcumdotinyou]

Mr Dire Straits...I wrote "some" you wrote "hordes" If you want to put words in my mouth then you'll have to stick you arm up my arse.

Thank you so much Benny for trying to reduce the cost of a punt for me, if it works I'll buy you a remy martin xo..or two.

[BennyB]

Are they though? You’ve given one example, which hardly seems significant… are you aware of hordes more who’ve “stopped going to brothels and signing up to SA”, or are we getting a bit carried away there?

Assuming for the sake of argument though that it’s true… It may not be the direction that brothels like to see their regulars taking. But it is unquestionably giving punters more choice and from the sounds of it, more bang for their buck if they do it right. To me, that’s not a bad outcome for a punter, which I believe the vast majority of us here are :-)

That's what I think. If you are going to drop a thousand or so a month on car repayments you want the best bang for your buck (pun intended - its a tits and ass forum) and as many options as are available before you empty your wallet?

Since when did knowing all that was available to you be a downside on a punting forum? This is one thread in thousands of active threads. Let's have some perspective.

[BennyB]

Mates pls chill.

It’s a forum to discuss on everything and anything. I have seen lot of posts with some cool stuff and no so cool stuff as well.

Each one will have his own entitlement to pursue new options. Let’s be respectful of what each of them want to do and how to proceed. It’s their remit. No one is telling them what to do.

Healthy conversation always keeps our forum to grow and we learn from each of our mistakes and learn some new things to try such as review - 2 hole massage table. I have been browsing the 2 hole table after the review. It’s so new only a few places-have it.

Would I ditch my regular no way. But I would try it for sure.

Weather is great outside. Few beers and bbq for all of us!


2 hole massage table? I'm guessing this is a milking table and not one where you are sharing with another cock? (no judgement from me of course) :-)

[buster]

I’d say he’s referring to a milking table

[kiddoh]

Guess the right term is milking table.
No thanks 🙏 I’m not interested in those mate!

[kiddoh]

I’d say he’s referring to a milking table

Thanks buster! There was a review from Al on that !

[kiddoh]

[QUOTE=BennyB;2312621]2 hole massage table? I'm guessing this is a milking table and not one where you are sharing with another cock? (no judgement from me of course) :-)[/jjQUOTE]



Guess the right term is milking table.
No thanks 🙏 I’m not interested in those mate!

[BennyB]

Another interesting viewpoint in that thread…

Posted by Zealousideal-Emu:

“These men take advantage of internalized whorephobia to get you to do the most for the least amount of compensation or you're not an SB you're a hooker.

If you're only getting paid to have sex, getting paid 3 figures, you know you can't ask your "SD" for anything significant financially then you don't have a sugar relationship.

A great litmus test, are you getting 4 figures per date, do you have dates that don't involve sex, do you receive your allowance even if something comes up and you can't meet, can you ask your SD for significant help financially, emotionally, professionally and know he'll say yes without a quid pro quo request.”

Men and women signing up to Sugar dating sites are volunteers. No one forces you to meet anyone and certainly no one can make you sleep with anyone. Some people make bad choices out of greed - money, sex, etc. we know what that’s like every time we go ahead with a bait and switch?

When I hear of women accepting ridiculous offers of money, I wonder if they have thought through the person offering them huge amounts of cash and what they expect of them? If it seems too good to be true…

If someone only gives you three figures it's not a sugar relationship...where is this written in stone?

An arrangement is at the convenience of two people and whatever they agree to. You are not entitled to anything, except to make a choice about what you enter into. If you feel a sense of entitlement when you are talking to someone on SA, just hang up.

And of course, don't be a dick yourself - be respectful, be a gentleman or you just give fuel to these kinds of views.

[Blue007]

Any tips on how to make a good profile. I'm not exactly wealthy but I'm 6 figure income earner.

[Rogeryou]

Being a SD is definitely not for me, I don't have enough time to do the meet ups. When I feel the urge I just punt, simple as that and to be honest I couldn't put up with the shit that most of the younger generation go on about.

Good luck to all you guys that can.

I'm not trying to be nasty Benny, but this is beginning to look like an infomercial. Do you get anything out of it? And if you have all of these lovely young SBs that you like to spend many hours with why are you here so much?

I don’t think you quite understand it man.
Most of the girls on SA do one off meets, it’s not a date!!’!!! you pay, you fuck, it’s punting……. It’s a different way of punting and probably the future of how it will evolve.

Some girls on SA do want a regular punter and some type of relationship or date experience which I don’t but from what I see there are a lot of lonely guys out there.

Although the outlay is bigger it’s actually better value and definitely better quality girls. The thread definitely has its place mate. It’s good to hear different peoples takes, perspective and experiences in this area.

I think most guys that will use SA will also continue with regular style punting too and hopefully it will contribute to keep prices in check!

[Double_Adapter]

I don’t think you quite understand it man.
Most of the girls on SA do one off meets, it’s not a date!!’!!! you pay, you fuck, it’s punting……. It’s a different way of punting and probably the future of how it will evolve.

For lack of a better term this sounds like Sugar Punting (or spunting) and a PPF (pay per fuck) is the currency of exchange.



Some girls on SA do want a regular punter and some type of relationship or date experience which I don’t but from what I see there are a lot of lonely guys out there.

And this would be the traditional Sugar Dating and a PPM (pay per meet) is the currency of exchange ie a fuck is not necessarily guaranteed but expected.

[BennyB]

Any tips on how to make a good profile. I'm not exactly wealthy but I'm 6 figure income earner.

Sadly a few idiots have hijacked the thread so I've replied to you on PM if that is helpful.

[BennyB]

I don’t think you quite understand it man.
Most of the girls on SA do one off meets, it’s not a date!!’!!! you pay, you fuck, it’s punting……. It’s a different way of punting and probably the future of how it will evolve.

Some girls on SA do want a regular punter and some type of relationship or date experience which I don’t but from what I see there are a lot of lonely guys out there.

Although the outlay is bigger it’s actually better value and definitely better quality girls. The thread definitely has its place mate. It’s good to hear different peoples takes, perspective and experiences in this area.

I think most guys that will use SA will also continue with regular style punting too and hopefully it will contribute to keep prices in check!

I think that's right Roger. It's just another channel. Sometimes I want KFC, sometimes I want home cooking, sometimes I want Italian, sometimes I want Thai. Sometimes I want three courses and sometimes I want a quick snack.

All that Seeking has done is uber-ise punting. The number of active girls on the site in any major location confirms that. For many of them, it's not their life, but it continues the journey of liberalising sex and the sex industry.

As punters we should welcome that.

You would have to be close minded, or an agent, not to think that way.

[BennyB]

For lack of a better term this sounds like Sugar Punting (or spunting) and a PPF (pay per fuck) is the currency of exchange.



And this would be the traditional Sugar Dating and a PPM (pay per meet) is the currency of exchange ie a fuck is not necessarily guaranteed but expected.


It all depends on the woman, her reasons for being on a Sugarbabe platform and how she sees herself.

We know what we want. They all want something different. You have to tap into that and not assume it's a cookie cutter model.

[StiFFFy]

Any tips on how to make a good profile. I'm not exactly wealthy but I'm 6 figure income earner.
Sadly a few idiots have hijacked the thread so I've replied to you on PM if that is helpful.Dang I was hoping to get your insights as well.

[sync3d3d]

Sadly a few idiots have hijacked the thread so I've replied to you on PM if that is helpful.

damm.. I Would love to see it also

[BennyB]

That's why there is a PM function. Feel free to use it.

[juscruisin58]

Sadly a few idiots have hijacked the thread

This is why I have gone quiet, I don't care if the way my arrangement is going doesn't agree with what some others believe should happen. The way we are heading is another real aspect of Sugar Dating that I was in the past willing to share.
The negativity doesn't interest me.
Good luck to you all.
We are now in an agreement where we are both protected legally and living together very happily.

[BennyB]

This is why I have gone quiet, I don't care if the way my arrangement is going doesn't agree with what some others believe should happen. The way we are heading is another real aspect of Sugar Dating that I was in the past willing to share.
The negativity doesn't interest me.
Good luck to you all.
We are now in an agreement where we are both protected legally and living together very happily.

That's great to hear JusCruisin. Regardless of the highs and lows, there aren't too many people who can look back on their lives and say they were bedding a woman 20+ years younger.

[kiddoh]

This is why I have gone quiet, I don't care if the way my arrangement is going doesn't agree with what some others believe should happen. The way we are heading is another real aspect of Sugar Dating that I was in the past willing to share.
The negativity doesn't interest me.
Good luck to you all.
We are now in an agreement where we are both protected legally and living together very happily.

Congratulations Jus...Very best for new beginnings..!!

[juscruisin58]

Congratulations Jus...Very best for new beginnings..!!

Thanks mate, when I first met her on SA, little did I know how we would end up. To say its been an interesting journey is an understatement and Violet and I have learnt a lot about ourselves and what we want from life.
The future is going to be interesting, challenging and rewarding, and fun.
I could wax on lyrical, however I won't, we are very happy with what we've got.
She's an amazing girl.

[Rogeryou]

This is why I have gone quiet, I don't care if the way my arrangement is going doesn't agree with what some others believe should happen. The way we are heading is another real aspect of Sugar Dating that I was in the past willing to share.
The negativity doesn't interest me.
Good luck to you all.
We are now in an agreement where we are both protected legally and living together very happily.

Well done mate and good for you, I am personally loving the PMMs on SA. Some of the comments have been just been so childish.

[Johnisfun1969]

Thanks mate, when I first met her on SA, little did I know how we would end up. To say its been an interesting journey is an understatement and Violet and I have learnt a lot about ourselves and what we want from life.
The future is going to be interesting, challenging and rewarding, and fun.
I could wax on lyrical, however I won't, we are very happy with what we've got.
She's an amazing girl.

I am happy for you mate and jealous. Life often throws you a curve ball but at times when you get a good one enjoy it.
If you don’t mind me asking the lady friend of yours is in her 20s and you in 50s. Do you go out to restaurants or shopping together. Do you get weird looks and how do you manage.

I am asking this question because when I was visiting Vietnam I had few gf. One girl was very young below 20 and once in the mall I got a weird look from a woman. She kind of stared at the young girl and made both of us uncomfortable. I did not see that girl again. But there is another girl maybe 25 or 26 I like. I met her before the pandemic in 2019. We are still in touch. Although she works as Sales consultant and does not lead a exorbitant lifestyle she is very classy. Because of the age difference I have been holding back on taking the relationship further.

[gthgrt]

Any tips on how to make a good profile. I'm not exactly wealthy but I'm 6 figure income earner.

Plenty of info available if you search the internet. You just need to find some time to read all of it.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=seeking+sugar+daddy+profile&ia=web

[juscruisin58]

I am happy for you mate and jealous. Life often throws you a curve ball but at times when you get a good one enjoy it.
If you don’t mind me asking the lady friend of yours is in her 20s and you in 50s. Do you go out to restaurants or shopping together. Do you get weird looks and how do you manage.

I am asking this question because when I was visiting Vietnam I had few gf. One girl was very young below 20 and once in the mall I got a weird look from a woman. She kind of stared at the young girl and made both of us uncomfortable. I did not see that girl again. But there is another girl maybe 25 or 26 I like. I met her before the pandemic in 2019. We are still in touch. Although she works as Sales consultant and does not lead a exorbitant lifestyle she is very classy. Because of the age difference I have been holding back on taking the relationship further.

Replied by PM mate

[BennyB]

Plenty of info available if you search the internet. You just need to find some time to read all of it.

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffab&q=seeking+sugar+daddy+profile&ia=web

Those articles are not a bad starting point if you want the very bare basics.

They are all missing the same thing though in my opinion - that a profile does not succeed independently of the target and the approach.

There are lots of guys and girls wandering around SA and other dating sites trying to figure out why they’re not getting what they want.

I think that, if you don’t feel confident and you want to be successful without burning a lot of cash and time, you should get yourself direct and specific feedback on your profile, your target and your approach.

[MYOB]

Something doesn't fit right here.
These people think they are good guys.
Heroes, knights in shining armour.
But if they ever grew up and took if the mask they would role play
a evil monster , hideous alien to perfection in real life.

[BennyB]

Something doesn't fit right here.
These people think they are good guys.
Heroes, knights in shining armour.
But if they ever grew up and took if the mask they would role play
a evil monster , hideous alien to perfection in real life.

I think it was Mark Twain who coined the phrase "Never argue with a fool. Onlookers may not be able to tell the difference."

So I won't. But a few words of gentle encouragement. Don't sniff glue and use your dad's punting phone at the same time. Bad things could happen.

[Sibon]

I started a seeking.com account about a month ago with 8 photos.

I haven't paid up to be a full member yet. So far I've got 18 viewed me, 12 favorited me and 5 messages which I can't reply.

Is it good or bad?

[BennyB]

Impossible to tell if it is good or bad if you can't read the messages.

Favourites and views are overrated.

And waiting for girls to talk to you first - well do they come up and talk to you in a bar? No - you have to go make the first move. That's what women who think they are going to meet confident, successful, mature guys would expect.

[exstar]

Don’t get excited about the favourites and views and DMs… you still gotta put in the effort and your put your social and negotiation skills to good use to get across the line ;)

[Aussieguyinsf]

They are running a discount promo at seeking.com right now - 20% off or something like that.

[BennyB]

They are running a discount promo at seeking.com right now - 20% off or something like that.

Great pick up. I think it's Valentine's 30% off.

[kiddoh]

Great pick up. I think it's Valentine's 30% off.

yep... Just registered for that...

Great feedback from our mates here. I have set up my profile based on the tips. Approached the girls whom I was interested in. Was upfront on the expectations and after initial photo exchanges and clear conversation on needs and wants...out of 10 responses received 5 were asking for 1k for PPM ...I politely declined not sure whether it's worth it for the first PPM, I assume girls also do a lot of fishing. Was able to check out 5/5, discussing having an arrangement with others and 1 has agreed with a PPM for $400.. waiting to experience SD journey...

Few tips: Always read the profile.. Some are pretty clear on what they want and then proceed with a greet and setting up expectations.. If anyone has mentioned platonic arrangement definitely not worth your time..

[Johnisfun1969]

yep... Just registered for that...

Great feedback from our mates here. I have set up my profile based on the tips. Approached the girls whom I was interested in. Was upfront on the expectations and after initial photo exchanges and clear conversation on needs and wants...out of 10 responses received 5 were asking for 1k for PPM ...I politely declined not sure whether it's worth it for the first PPM, I assume girls also do a lot of fishing. Was able to check out 5/5, discussing having an arrangement with others and 1 has agreed with a PPM for $400.. waiting to experience SD journey...

Few tips: Always read the profile.. Some are pretty clear on what they want and then proceed with a greet and setting up expectations.. If anyone has mentioned platonic arrangement definitely not worth your time..

I had similar responses. I have been taking a cotious approach and taking time to talk money. But the girls who have been doing this know the deal and don’t waste any time. There is one wants $1000 ppm so I am leaving her alone for some time and will go back. There is another one asking $500 with dinner and drinks. She has her own apartment but only offered half an hour there. Not sure if she is sb or escort using SA. The Asian girls don’t chat much but want to talk money first.

Would the gents who are experienced want to share the hotels they have been using. Day use hotel site is only good if you meet during the day not in the evening

[BennyB]

yep... Just registered for that...

Great feedback from our mates here. I have set up my profile based on the tips. Approached the girls whom I was interested in. Was upfront on the expectations and after initial photo exchanges and clear conversation on needs and wants...out of 10 responses received 5 were asking for 1k for PPM ...I politely declined not sure whether it's worth it for the first PPM, I assume girls also do a lot of fishing. Was able to check out 5/5, discussing having an arrangement with others and 1 has agreed with a PPM for $400.. waiting to experience SD journey...

Few tips: Always read the profile.. Some are pretty clear on what they want and then proceed with a greet and setting up expectations.. If anyone has mentioned platonic arrangement definitely not worth your time..

I wouldn’t always discard “platonic” unless they are specific that it’s what they want.

Some girls will select the “platonic” option in the drop down menu when they first set up their profiles - it’s not always deliberate

[BennyB]

I had similar responses. I have been taking a cotious approach and taking time to talk money. But the girls who have been doing this know the deal and don’t waste any time. There is one wants $1000 ppm so I am leaving her alone for some time and will go back. There is another one asking $500 with dinner and drinks. She has her own apartment but only offered half an hour there. Not sure if she is sb or escort using SA. The Asian girls don’t chat much but want to talk money first.

Would the gents who are experienced want to share the hotels they have been using. Day use hotel site is only good if you meet during the day not in the evening

I still use Dayuse to find hotels that do short stay options. I don’t always book through them - I just call the hotels directly once I’ve seen them on Dayuse and then negotiate what I’m looking for on the day

[Johnisfun1969]

I still use Dayuse to find hotels that do short stay options. I don’t always book through them - I just call the hotels directly once I’ve seen them on Dayuse and then negotiate what I’m looking for on the day

This is awesome thanks BennyB I will give it a go. I was looking at the Crown Plaza in Dalring Harbour advertising 10am-6pm. Thats a decent hotel and would work out if they allow use of the hotel room for few hours after 8pm.
Other than this I think the servicve apaprtment chains like Quest offer decent rates for regular booking. I dont want to be going into ordinary place.

[BennyB]

This is awesome thanks BennyB I will give it a go. I was looking at the Crown Plaza in Dalring Harbour advertising 10am-6pm. Thats a decent hotel and would work out if they allow use of the hotel room for few hours after 8pm.
Other than this I think the servicve apaprtment chains like Quest offer decent rates for regular booking. I dont want to be going into ordinary place.

You just have to monitor the supply / demand.

Check Airbnb, aggregators, Dayuse. Form relationships with hotels etc. They’ll flex if they need a business. Occupancy levels are not overflowing

[Vader]

A lot easier just going to the pub about 90 minutes to closing time. Costs you maybe one or two drinks and you see the girl before you buy the drink.

[BennyB]

A lot easier just going to the pub about 90 minutes to closing time. Costs you maybe one or two drinks and you see the girl before you buy the drink.

You should start a thread on that Vader. This one’s for Sugarbabies.

[fud]

Here's an article warning SBs about SD scams leading up to Valentine's Day, I would've thought it'd be the other way around, SDs beware
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10504965/How-sugar-daddy-scammers-targeting-lonely-women-lead-Valentines-Day.html

[rooter]

I guess it's what you are into.
The sugar baby thing is definitely not for me.
I am basically a misanthrope, I don't like people, the less I have to deal with people the better.
Even if they are young and hot they are still people.
So the idea of doing coffee, dinner, weekend away, chill out together at home etc with a girl is the last thing I want to do.
Punting on the other hand is perfect for me. I meet a girl I have never seen before, and within 10 minutes she is sucking my dick.
Kiss, lick, suck, fuck, chill out and that's it, I am out the door and I will never see her again.
Perfect!

[BennyB]

I guess it's what you are into.
The sugar baby thing is definitely not for me.
I am basically a misanthrope, I don't like people, the less I have to deal with people the better.
Even if they are young and hot they are still people.
So the idea of doing coffee, dinner, weekend away, chill out together at home etc with a girl is the last thing I want to do.
Punting on the other hand is perfect for me. I meet a girl I have never seen before, and within 10 minutes she is sucking my dick.
Kiss, lick, suck, fuck, chill out and that's it, I am out the door and I will never see her again.
Perfect!

That makes perfect sense. When I have those days when I don’t want to give my energy to anyone, I just go for a massage. She doesn’t even need to suck my cock - I just want a long massage and she can figure out how to make me cum while I lie there half asleep.

[BennyB]

Here's an article warning SBs about SD scams leading up to Valentine's Day, I would've thought it'd be the other way around, SDs beware
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-10504965/How-sugar-daddy-scammers-targeting-lonely-women-lead-Valentines-Day.html


This is mainly about floral scams and the high price of flowers around Valentines Day. Basically clickbait.

[Riff888]

Here's some updates.

It's been very busy with SBs the last week.

There seems to be an influx of young pretty SBs who are not even in Sydney. They will tell you a sob story about an ill family member and they need money for groceries. They ask for small amounts like $25 to $50. I wonder how many guys fall for this. Being in financial crime, I'm good at finding things. First off I ask if they have PAY ID, say you don't use Beem It. Most have their mobile as their PAY ID. I then put their PAY ID in the CBA app, their real name will show. I them search their names in Facebook. I've found one girl based in Melbourne, another girl's profile picture was in a restaurant called Jimmy Fox, in Noosa. I politely decline and say, sorry no funds exchanged before our first meet, call me when you're in Sydney.

One girl with username Cheerfulbabe or something. She asked for money for Uber Eats to feed her kids and also for cones. I said kids and pot is not a good mix and I don't want anything to do with that. I blocked her.

A girl, username evafor2022, a hot Asian girl living in North Sydney. I get WL feels, she's asking for $1k per meet but for a maximum of 2 hours.

A girl who calls herself Zara, straight up said she offers PSE service at an hourly rate.

Selena Lam is on there as username seekingsomething, she's put her age as 18 [emoji23]

There are genuine SBs young and pretty around Campbelltown from $200 to $400 per meet.

A wild 31 year old in Newcastle at $400 for the whole night if you book a room at the Crystalbrook. It's too expensive and far to see her on a regular basis, she has no interest to come down to Sydney.

Met this really pretty 26 year old Taiwanese student from Burwood at $600 per meet no time limits.

The girl from Newcastle has a hot body.

I must say, Indo girls are the best.7721377214

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[Riff888]

Oh forgot to mention.

If you see girls who are interested in both women and men, some are genuine bi and you could get lucky with a true lesbian doubles experience.

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[Rogeryou]

Here's some updates.

It's been very busy with SBs the last week.

There seems to be an influx of young pretty SBs who are not even in Sydney. They will tell you a sob story about an ill family member and they need money for groceries. They ask for small amounts like $25 to $50. I wonder how many guys fall for this. Being in financial crime, I'm good at finding things. First off I ask if they have PAY ID, say you don't use Beem It. Most have their mobile as their PAY ID. I then put their PAY ID in the CBA app, their real name will show. I them search their names in Facebook. I've found one girl based in Melbourne, another girl's profile picture was in a restaurant called Jimmy Fox, in Noosa. I politely decline and say, sorry no funds exchanged before our first meet, call me when you're in Sydney.

One girl with username Cheerfulbabe or something. She asked for money for Uber Eats to feed her kids and also for cones. I said kids and pot is not a good mix and I don't want anything to do with that. I blocked her.

A girl, username evafor2022, a hot Asian girl living in North Sydney. I get WL feels, she's asking for $1k per meet but for a maximum of 2 hours.

A girl who calls herself Zara, straight up said she offers PSE service at an hourly rate.

Selena Lam is on there as username seekingsomething, she's put her age as 18 [emoji23]

There are genuine SBs young and pretty around Campbelltown from $200 to $400 per meet.

A wild 31 year old in Newcastle at $400 for the whole night if you book a room at the Crystalbrook. It's too expensive and far to see her on a regular basis, she has no interest to come down to Sydney.

Met this really pretty 26 year old Taiwanese student from Burwood at $600 per meet no time limits.

The girl from Newcastle has a hot body.

I must say, Indo girls are the best.7721377214

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Hahahah well done bro, I got a life ban for solicitation 🤣 but I have a few on Kik that I am using. I got a bit silly and was just checking out pics and straight out making offers.

[BennyB]

Direct solicitation on the site will get you kicked out faster than Novak, as has been mentioned a few times on this forum.

To get back in you will need a clean email address (preferably a different ISP) and a different credit card. VPN would be ideal for the extra invisibility.

[Riff888]

Hahahah well done bro, I got a life ban for solicitation [emoji1787] but I have a few on Kik that I am using. I got a bit silly and was just checking out pics and straight out making offers.Mate, you can't discuss money or PPM on SA. Even though that's what everyone does.

Can you create a new account with a new email using a VPN?

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[kiddoh]

Mate, you can't discuss money or PPM on SA. Even though that's what everyone does.

Can you create a new account with a new email using a VPN?

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Yeah, it should be easy... I use express VPN... damn good...

[Riff888]

Yeah, it should be easy... I use express VPN... damn good...You reckon Express is better than Nord?

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[kiddoh]

You reckon Express is better than Nord?

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I have tried Nord once. but I'm comfortable with Express VPN because of the huge amount of servers which i shift between Singapore, US and Australia and Split tunnelling.. the speed is up to the mark not lagging.

Nord is also less expensive than express without split tunnelling not sure about speed, when I was using that it seemed okay..

Check in Ozbargain, last time there was some offer. Both of them give 30days free.. so you can try if it doesn't work you can switch to another service provider..

[Riff888]

I have tried Nord once. but I'm comfortable with Express VPN because of the huge amount of servers which i shift between Singapore, US and Australia and Split tunnelling.. the speed is up to the mark not lagging.

Nord is also less expensive than express without split tunnelling not sure about speed, when I was using that it seemed okay..

Check in Ozbargain, last time there was some offer. Both of them give 30days free.. so you can try if it doesn't work you can switch to another service provider..Cool thanks for that, I'll give that a go.

A lot of websites already have Nord servers on their banned list.

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[exstar]

Here's some updates.

It's been very busy with SBs the last week.

There seems to be an influx of young pretty SBs who are not even in Sydney. They will tell you a sob story about an ill family member and they need money for groceries. They ask for small amounts like $25 to $50. I wonder how many guys fall for this. Being in financial crime, I'm good at finding things. First off I ask if they have PAY ID, say you don't use Beem It. Most have their mobile as their PAY ID. I then put their PAY ID in the CBA app, their real name will show. I them search their names in Facebook. I've found one girl based in Melbourne, another girl's profile picture was in a restaurant called Jimmy Fox, in Noosa. I politely decline and say, sorry no funds exchanged before our first meet, call me when you're in Sydney.

One girl with username Cheerfulbabe or something. She asked for money for Uber Eats to feed her kids and also for cones. I said kids and pot is not a good mix and I don't want anything to do with that. I blocked her.

A girl, username evafor2022, a hot Asian girl living in North Sydney. I get WL feels, she's asking for $1k per meet but for a maximum of 2 hours.

A girl who calls herself Zara, straight up said she offers PSE service at an hourly rate.

Selena Lam is on there as username seekingsomething, she's put her age as 18 [emoji23]

There are genuine SBs young and pretty around Campbelltown from $200 to $400 per meet.

A wild 31 year old in Newcastle at $400 for the whole night if you book a room at the Crystalbrook. It's too expensive and far to see her on a regular basis, she has no interest to come down to Sydney.

Met this really pretty 26 year old Taiwanese student from Burwood at $600 per meet no time limits.

The girl from Newcastle has a hot body.

I must say, Indo girls are the best.7721377214

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I just checked out the PayId trick. Wow that is scary - theoretically you could find out anyones real name based on their phone number as long as they had PayId. Aren’t there privacy concerns around that? Good thing I’ve only ever given out my alternate number but checked out some numbers given to me.. and yeah wow no comment.

Cheerfulbabe is she an Asian girl? Have seen one called Cheerfulbae wearing purple dress

[Riff888]

I just checked out the PayId trick. Wow that is scary - theoretically you could find out anyones real name based on their phone number as long as they had PayId. Aren’t there privacy concerns around that? Good thing I’ve only ever given out my alternate number but checked out some numbers given to me.. and yeah wow no comment.

Cheerfulbabe is she an Asian girl? Have seen one called Cheerfulbae wearing purple dressOh that Asian girl in the car right? She's real but didn't click.

The Cheerfulbabe scammer is Caucasian, I blocked her on SA so I can't see her anymore. Said she lives in Shanes Park, I had no idea where that is. It's past Marsden Park but I think it's developing with no real residential areas.

Well you set up PAY ID with your bank, you can't use a false name, you can use first initial and last name.

Truecaller is another great tool to find people's names by phone number. How it works; once you install it on your phone, it uploads your contacts into a huge database. So it already has millions of people's contacts in the database. So if someone calls you and they're in the Truecaller database, you will see their name. Works great for blocking known scammers but you have to subscribe and pay a fee for full functionality.77229

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[Riff888]

If anyone had any luck with Evie.Love? She's an absolute stunner.

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[Johnisfun1969]

Oh that Asian girl in the car right? She's real but didn't click.

The Cheerfulbabe scammer is Caucasian, I blocked her on SA so I can't see her anymore. Said she lives in Shanes Park, I had no idea where that is. It's past Marsden Park but I think it's developing with no real residential areas.

Well you set up PAY ID with your bank, you can't use a false name, you can use first initial and last name.

Truecaller is another great tool to find people's names by phone number. How it works; once you install it on your phone, it uploads your contacts into a huge database. So it already has millions of people's contacts in the database. So if someone calls you and they're in the Truecaller database, you will see their name. Works great for blocking known scammers but you have to subscribe and pay a fee for full functionality.77229

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I think there are lot of fraud also. I started chatting with a Asian girl and she went to what’s app straight away. She said she is from HK and runs a Beaty saloon there and migrated to Australia. She was too nice to talk to. In fact I got scared and blocked her as I thought it could be scammers trying to steal my information. There is one girl who asked to go to Kik. Then I receive a message asking for $20 for lunch. Will delete the account.Few girls are not using their own pic in the main profile. When they share the private albums there is nothing special. There was one that says she is a medical student but spends the whole day online. She wanted 5 platonic dates before getting intimate.

[Riff888]

I think there are lot of fraud also. I started chatting with a Asian girl and she went to what’s app straight away. She said she is from HK and runs a Beaty saloon there and migrated to Australia. She was too nice to talk to. In fact I got scared and blocked her as I thought it could be scammers trying to steal my information. There is one girl who asked to go to Kik. Then I receive a message asking for $20 for lunch. Will delete the account.Few girls are not using their own pic in the main profile. When they share the private albums there is nothing special. There was one that says she is a medical student but spends the whole day online. She wanted 5 platonic dates before getting intimate.Hahahaha, you mean like this?

Yes I've noticed a lot of these scammers in the last week.77236

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[exstar]

Oh that Asian girl in the car right? She's real but didn't click.


Yep I was in touch with her last year during lockdown and was supposed to line up a meet and greet, eventually she ghosted and deactivated her account and looks like she’s now back on the scene - her kik id from before isn’t active so she must have a new one.

Your right though you have to lead the conversation with her or you get nowhere. Those girls are the best for me though, once you can break through the ice it’s on... all part of the thrill of the chase!

[Riff888]

Yep I was in touch with her last year during lockdown and was supposed to line up a meet and greet, eventually she ghosted and deactivated her account and looks like she’s now back on the scene - her kik id from before isn’t active so she must have a new one.

Your right though you have to lead the conversation with her or you get nowhere. Those girls are the best for me though, once you can break through the ice it’s on... all part of the thrill of the chase!She takes more than a day to reply to messages sometimes and asks too many questions. She's definitely after high rollers.

It seems a few girls are looking for life partners on SA. A bit like punters looking for wives in brothels. There's probably like small percentage success rate.

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[cuteguy]

If punters are searching for wives in brothels they must be desperate. As for dating sites where girls ask for money then best to delete and have no contact with those scammers. Unfortunately, there are many gullible guys who are looking for love these days and get scammed in the process.

[Riff888]

Other way to identify scammers;

I don't have a profile picture, I have private photos.

A red flag when they message and want to swap contact details without requesting access to my private photos.

A few people have PMd me over price.

I've never gone over $600 for the first meet.

The girls get cheaper the further west you expand your search area. So from $300 to $400 PPM.

Girls that look like models and know it ask for between $700 to $1k.

Never negotiate a cheeper rate on the first meet, it's not a good first impression. Either take it or leave it. If you meet and have a good time, you get then start that conversation. It just depends how popular they are.

Don't fall for the "I need $20 for lunch" scammers. They're probably men asking 10 guys for $20. That's an easy $200.

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[Riff888]

If punters are searching for wives in brothels they must be desperate. As for dating sites where girls ask for money then best to delete and have no contact with those scammers. Unfortunately, there are many gullible guys who are looking for love these days and get scammed in the process.Agree, you have to delete them.

Not all punters but there are the obsessive few that fall in love.

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[exstar]

I don’t negotiate or even agree on price before meeting… even if I know they’re expecting 700+, it’s easy to spit out numbers behind a keyboard - first priority is to try get to a face to face catchup over coffee or lunch. If money becomes a sticking point then I let them go.

I then try to keep my calendar free afterwards ‘just in case’, and if the chemistry is there I’d offer my preferred amount to continue at a nearby hotel or their place if they host… haven’t been rejected yet - I suppose once you are there it’s hard to say no on the spot - but the chemistry must be there. The risk is after initial meet the momentum gets lost or the girl or even you has second thoughts. It also adds a bit of spontaneous spice to it and is more fun that way.

For me that’s where I’ve had my best meets as I know they were genuinely into me and not for the dollar amount they’d be getting - and everything was on offer… and I mean everything. I see one of these girls regularly now for lunch time ‘booty calls’ at her place for a very reasonable amount and takeaway lunch :)

[Riff888]

I don’t negotiate or even agree on price before meeting… even if I know they’re expecting 700+, it’s easy to spit out numbers behind a keyboard - first priority is to try get to a face to face catchup over coffee or lunch. If money becomes a sticking point then I let them go.

I then try to keep my calendar free afterwards ‘just in case’, and if the chemistry is there I’d offer my preferred amount to continue at a nearby hotel or their place if they host… haven’t been rejected yet - I suppose once you are there it’s hard to say no on the spot - but the chemistry must be there. The risk is after initial meet the momentum gets lost or the girl or even you has second thoughts. It also adds a bit of spontaneous spice to it and is more fun that way.

For me that’s where I’ve had my best meets as I know they were genuinely into me and not for the dollar amount they’d be getting - and everything was on offer… and I mean everything. I see one of these girls regularly now for lunch time ‘booty calls’ at her place for a very reasonable amount and takeaway lunch :)That's great advice.

Yes you need a clear schedule, sometimes right after the messages or within 2 days.

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[Johnisfun1969]

Other way to identify scammers;

I don't have a profile picture, I have private photos.

A red flag when they message and want to swap contact details without requesting access to my private photos.

A few people have PMd me over price.

I've never gone over $600 for the first meet.

The girls get cheaper the further west you expand your search area. So from $300 to $400 PPM.

Girls that look like models and know it ask for between $700 to $1k.

Never negotiate a cheeper rate on the first meet, it's not a good first impression. Either take it or leave it. If you meet and have a good time, you get then start that conversation. It just depends how popular they are.

Don't fall for the "I need $20 for lunch" scammers. They're probably men asking 10 guys for $20. That's an easy $200.

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Looks like there are a few on this site also. Just this morning a hot looking girl who only sent 1-2 messages before started to chat. We moved to Snapchat and it got heated up. She got me charged up and i offered to meet for lunch and she offered her apartement. Then as I was about to leave she says oh no you dont have Jumio verification. I told her I have all the ones required by site. To this she says this is special one and they dont want everyone to know. But she wont see me without this verification. Then she send me a link. Luckky for me I was not thinking with the dick. I went online and tried to find out about the verification and it was for business only and they will come back. IN the meantime this girl kept encouraging me to click the link and get this done in 5 minutes. I was tempted many times but after she kept insisting it became obvious this is a scam. I wont give the profile name but this girl has Eat my Kitty in the heading. The profile pic is from the back little darker shot.

Anyone else has come across this.

[Johnisfun1969]

Hahahaha, you mean like this?

Yes I've noticed a lot of these scammers in the last week.77236

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HI Riff I also got this one asking for $20 for lunch. I replied back can we do a video call and she says my phone is brocke. To which I said you are lot more than $20 when we meet I wil lgive you a new phone.

[Riff888]

Looks like there are a few on this site also. Just this morning a hot looking girl who only sent 1-2 messages before started to chat. We moved to Snapchat and it got heated up. She got me charged up and i offered to meet for lunch and she offered her apartement. Then as I was about to leave she says oh no you dont have Jumio verification. I told her I have all the ones required by site. To this she says this is special one and they dont want everyone to know. But she wont see me without this verification. Then she send me a link. Luckky for me I was not thinking with the dick. I went online and tried to find out about the verification and it was for business only and they will come back. IN the meantime this girl kept encouraging me to click the link and get this done in 5 minutes. I was tempted many times but after she kept insisting it became obvious this is a scam. I wont give the profile name but this girl has Eat my Kitty in the heading. The profile pic is from the back little darker shot.

Anyone else has come across this.No this completely new to me. Wow, you really have to be careful out there. Not just on SA but any online dating.

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[Riff888]

HI Riff I also got this one asking for $20 for lunch. I replied back can we do a video call and she says my phone is brocke. To which I said you are lot more than $20 when we meet I wil lgive you a new phone.I actually reported this user. It was easy to report since they uploaded nude pics which is against site policy.

I've come across 3 scammers asking money for food, an Uber home, even pot.

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[Johnisfun1969]

No this completely new to me. Wow, you really have to be careful out there. Not just on SA but any online dating.

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Yes imagine you are chating with hot girl and slowly the conversation builds to I get wild after few drinks and I like 69. By this time you stop using your brain. Its really funny as at this point I split my Kamagra pill and was deciding to have qurter or half. I went for half.

[exstar]

Looks like there are a few on this site also. Just this morning a hot looking girl who only sent 1-2 messages before started to chat. We moved to Snapchat and it got heated up. She got me charged up and i offered to meet for lunch and she offered her apartement. Then as I was about to leave she says oh no you dont have Jumio verification. I told her I have all the ones required by site. To this she says this is special one and they dont want everyone to know. But she wont see me without this verification. Then she send me a link. Luckky for me I was not thinking with the dick. I went online and tried to find out about the verification and it was for business only and they will come back. IN the meantime this girl kept encouraging me to click the link and get this done in 5 minutes. I was tempted many times but after she kept insisting it became obvious this is a scam. I wont give the profile name but this girl has Eat my Kitty in the heading. The profile pic is from the back little darker shot.

Anyone else has come across this.

Yep same girl has messaged me … could pick out she was fake “Eat my kitten!” is her tagline and I don’t think she’s as adorable as her username indicates haha

Girls that are more upfront are usually the scammy ones

[Riff888]

Yes imagine you are chating with hot girl and slowly the conversation builds to I get wild after few drinks and I like 69. By this time you stop using your brain. Its really funny as at this point I split my Kamagra pill and was deciding to have qurter or half. I went for half.I would have gone to a brothel, wouldn't want to waste a Kamagra boner.

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[Riff888]

Yep same girl has messaged me … could pick out she was fake “Eat my kitten!” is her tagline and I don’t think she’s as adorable as her username indicates haha

Girls that are more upfront are usually the scammy onesThe professional SBs are straightforward as well. They even copy and paste their PPM requirements.

I like these girls though. Straight to business without the need for a pre meet up.

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[eazylove4u]

Sadly a few idiots have hijacked the thread so I've replied to you on PM if that is helpful.

Do you mind helping another punter out?

[BennyB]

Do you mind helping another punter out?

Sure. A number of guys have messaged me. Happy to assist if I can.

[Riff888]

This week's update:

AdorableDame 21 Caucasian, unfortunately too tall for my liking.

LittleLeah 21 from Hong Kong, I swear she doesn't look Asian at all but says she's 100% Honky. She's a good girl, great for guys who like kissing but not much else.

Babyfleur 18 Caucasian, a very pretty girl but she's in Noosa and will ask you money for groceries. I found her real name via Pay ID.

Bhadbunny 22 Caucasian based in Penrith pretty much a scammer, said send me money I'll come to you.

Belle 21 mixed wants $6k in one hit for as long as you like for whatever you like. She said anything you desire. I said I'll think about it, my way of saying no thanks.

VibrantBli 23 Asian, too many questions, respect to anyone who gets her.

Natalia 20 mixed, glamorous big bootylicious type girl, tanned with big lips. Wants $700 PPM at least once a week.

CuteBae 28 Latin, OMG so hot but didn't message me back.

Hot Teen Student 19 mixed, very beautiful looks Italian or Lebanese. We were chatting in SA, she wanted to talk about my offer, I said let's take it to another app, she said bye bye. Not sure what happened there.

Saw the Taiwanese student from Burwood on Tuesday, got to the bed, kissing, sucking her tits. I move down for some DATY, she says her period just started. Oh great, no sex tonight was going through my head. Ummm we still can she said, I was like what. So it was BB period sex, blood on my dick and everything. Haven't done that since my first ex wife. She said don't cum inside and this girl does not do CIM. So I pulled out and told her to kiss me while I finish myself off.

Totally different to other Taiwanese girls I've met. Into heavy metal and hip hop, introduced me to NF and Hopsin in the car on the way back to her place.

These SBs are full of surprises.

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[kctt]

@Riff888: Thanks for sharing. That's useful to understand what experience with SB be like

[Markin]

got contacted by Bhadbunny, spider senses were already tingling before i read your post so i stopped responding. thanks for the heads up!

[Markin]

I read somewhere that there are scammers on whatsapp so it's best not to use that platform for communicating with SBs, that kik or telegram are better. Is that correct?

Also whatsapp gives away your real phone number, which could be a problem?

[sydind]

Bro you are the big daddy in this space.

Thanks for all these reviews and the insights. Really appreciate it

[Riff888]

I read somewhere that there are scammers on whatsapp so it's best not to use that platform for communicating with SBs, that kik or telegram are better. Is that correct?

Also whatsapp gives away your real phone number, which could be a problem?Yeah, scammers from other countries use Aussie mobile numbers, I think it's called spoofing.

They will then tell you how successful they are because of crypto or Forex trading and will ask you to invest with them.

A few legit girls use WhatsApp, so you have to use your own judgement.

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[sydind]

I was thanking @Riff888 in my earlier message 😂

[Riff888]

I was thanking @Riff888 in my earlier message [emoji23]Mate, that's what this forum is all about. Sharing information for free, no subscription payments required.

To a point though, there are a few girls I'm keeping to myself for now for obvious reasons.

Watch out for GorgeousFit&Fun, she wants a very high roller. Only high end fine dining for her like Nobu at the Crown. Doesn't want PPM but an allowance and gifts from Cartier [emoji23] I'm sure some scammer will swindle her.

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[BennyB]

I read somewhere that there are scammers on whatsapp so it's best not to use that platform for communicating with SBs, that kik or telegram are better. Is that correct?

Also whatsapp gives away your real phone number, which could be a problem?

I've been using whatsapp with Sugarbabes for over three years. I've never had a problem or heard of anyone else who dates in the SB space having one.

Like anything, you want to be thoughtful about who you give your number out to.

I date Euro sugarbabes who have normal profiles and normal lives. Phone numbers get exchanged after a lot of online chat first.

If you are really concerned about your phone number then I would suggest using a burner phone or a dual sim.

[Markin]

I've been using whatsapp with Sugarbabes for over three years. I've never had a problem or heard of anyone else who dates in the SB space having one.

Like anything, you want to be thoughtful about who you give your number out to.

I date Euro sugarbabes who have normal profiles and normal lives. Phone numbers get exchanged after a lot of online chat first.

If you are really concerned about your phone number then I would suggest using a burner phone or a dual sim.

Thank you for all the helpful advice! It has been invaluable.

My whatsapp account is in my real name. I could change it but all my other contacts will be wondering wtf happened. My spider sense is tingling at the person that wants to use whatsapp anyway, I think i'll stick to kik/wechat/telegram. that should be enough options, surely?

[BennyB]

You could just take your surname off your whatsapp account. My own is in my real first name. For most people that is not unusual.

Using your real first name on a messaging device is like a double bluff. No one expects it and most girls are pleasantly surprised when you tell them that is your actual name. The weird, suspicious types who you should not have given your number to in the first place will never believe it. So either way you are covered.

Why would your spider sense tingle at using whatsapp? It’s a standard messaging service and almost every young backpacker, international student and anyone with friends around the world uses it because they can tap into Wi-Fi and not incur any charges for calls or messages.

If anything, kik is more commonly known as being used by the Ashley Maddison types and sex workers.

Telegram is not yet pervasive enough, just like Signal. So I don’t want to make it hard for the women I am trying to attract. They have as many people in their networks telling them not to download apps like telegram/signal/kik etc. So you have to have options that work for them.

WeChat is useful if you are focused on Asian women as it is not used by non-Asians unless looking for sex workers (even in business the Asian clients I work with don’t communicate with me as a non-Asian on WeChat. It’s possible but unlikely)

It comes back to who you are trying to appear to be on SA and who you are trying to attract on SA.

In all of the thousands of detailed sugarbabe reviews I’ve read on thenakedtruth, I’ve heard of maybe one woman who ended up being a little stir crazy. And she was easily dealt with.

[Shiba]

Just join SA yesterday first time joining this type of app.Had a few msgs back but whn I tried to open it it’s asking to upgrade to read it. Thought it was free for posting n reading a few of the members.

[Riff888]

Thank you for all the helpful advice! It has been invaluable.

My whatsapp account is in my real name. I could change it but all my other contacts will be wondering wtf happened. My spider sense is tingling at the person that wants to use whatsapp anyway, I think i'll stick to kik/wechat/telegram. that should be enough options, surely?Something to think about.

Do you use your phone number as your Pay ID? I do and a girl I blocked used the Pay ID trick on me to find me on Facebook and send me a message. So it's good to use an alternate number on a second phone or a dual SIM phone.

Kik seems to be the app of choice for teens and early 20s, it's very discreet and username based.

Telegraph is growing in popularity and can either be phone or username based so yes, you can be discreet with this app.

We all know about WeChat on this forum, mainly used by Chinese.

Line, also discreet, used by Japanese, Thai and Taiwanese.

Kakao Talk is discreet and used by Koreans.

There's scammers on all platforms, so you just have to be careful and use common sense.

Has anyone had any luck with Juliexo?

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[Xorro]

Yeah, scammers from other countries use Aussie mobile numbers, I think it's called spoofing.


Useful tip Riff888, I was not aware of this.

For the other readers, here’s a bit more about call spoofing:
https://exchange.telstra.com.au/fake-calls-what-is-call-spoofing/#:~:text=Call%20spoofing%20is%20where%20a,over%20t he%20last%20few%20years.

I was chatting to a girl on a dating app recently who asked for my WhatsApp number which I provided.

It became evident fairly early in our conversation that she is a scammer of some sort - querying how my stock portfolio was going lol - obvious red flag.

I hope I’m not deluged with spam and robo-calls in future.

[Riff888]

Useful tip Riff888, I was not aware of this.

For the other readers, here’s a bit more about call spoofing:
https://exchange.telstra.com.au/fake-calls-what-is-call-spoofing/#:~:text=Call%20spoofing%20is%20where%20a,over%20t he%20last%20few%20years.

I was chatting to a girl on a dating app recently who asked for my WhatsApp number which I provided.

It became evident fairly early in our conversation that she is a scammer of some sort - querying how my stock portfolio was going lol - obvious red flag.

I hope I’m not deluged with spam and robo-calls in future.Thanks for the Link Xorro, I've had a few of these scammers on WhatsApp over the years from dating apps as well.

For those who who want to get noticed on SA, you can pay about $10 for a 24 hour boost. This will show your profile at the top of SB's search. I tried this and it definitely increased the number of views, favours and messages. I don't even have a profile picture, just private photos.

Check out CheekyBrunette, 21 Caucasian, her pictures look amazing. I've messaged but no response. She's got 19 photos on there and all accessible.

Another girl who looks hot is sienna306, 21 Asian, very pretty.

I'm having my first plutonic meet tonight. This very interesting and very intelligent East Indian girl. The writes essays for messages and found out about SA from 60 minutes awhile ago. She needs financial assistance so she thought to give SA a go. I'm just very curious about this girl and have agreed to $150 for tonight's meet. She's studying neuroscience at uni, I'm fascinated with her.

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[Johnisfun1969]

Useful tip Riff888, I was not aware of this.

For the other readers, here’s a bit more about call spoofing:
https://exchange.telstra.com.au/fake-calls-what-is-call-spoofing/#:~:text=Call%20spoofing%20is%20where%20a,over%20t he%20last%20few%20years.

I was chatting to a girl on a dating app recently who asked for my WhatsApp number which I provided.

It became evident fairly early in our conversation that she is a scammer of some sort - querying how my stock portfolio was going lol - obvious red flag.

I hope I’m not deluged with spam and robo-calls in future.

Yes there are various scammers on this site. They use different tack tics to reel you in. I came across 2 x different girls who became so friendly. One even started saying she gets crazy after a few drinks. The conversation moved from introduction to having wild sex right away. Just before giving the address the girl say oh baby you don’t have the jumio verification. This is for special members only and not widely publicised. Then sends me a ID and a link. If I was thinking with my dick I would have clicked on the link. But I Googled and found out Jumio is for business only. I was lucky and saved. There was a second girl who again tried this kind of trick. And I said I don’t want any verification.

The other scammer use what’s app or Kik. The usual tel tale signs are they don’t waste time and ask you to chat offline. Then there are those scammers who only put one hazy shot of girl and ask you to send money upfront. I think 10% scammers could be a conservative figure from my limited experience on the site so far.

[Johnisfun1969]

Thanks for the Link Xorro, I've had a few of these scammers on WhatsApp over the years from dating apps as well.

For those who who want to get noticed on SA, you can pay about $10 for a 24 hour boost. This will show your profile at the top of SB's search. I tried this and it definitely increased the number of views, favours and messages. I don't even have a profile picture, just private photos.

Check out CheekyBrunette, 21 Caucasian, her pictures look amazing. I've messaged but no response. She's got 19 photos on there and all accessible.

Another girl who looks hot is sienna306, 21 Asian, very pretty.

I'm having my first plutonic meet tonight. This very interesting and very intelligent East Indian girl. The writes essays for messages and found out about SA from 60 minutes awhile ago. She needs financial assistance so she thought to give SA a go. I'm just very curious about this girl and have agreed to $150 for tonight's meet. She's studying neuroscience at uni, I'm fascinated with her.

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Nice one Riff888 you experience has been quite helpful to me in particular. Although I have not met many girls but have now made contact with few and they are keen to meet. Unfortunately on Friday I had two cancellations. It was not my lucky day. One young girl she is little curvy but she is pretty. She canceled on me twice after arranging a date. If I was more flexible with my timing I would have met more.

It will be interesting to know how you go. Indian girl you have to make her feel comfortable. Then make sure you she knows you respect her and hold her in high regards. The platonic date could be just a facade to show she is not easy girl. But as most girls on this sight know what men are looking for. They will agree for a private time. I would also like to meet Indian girl I think the one who canceled on Friday was one.

[Johnisfun1969]

Useful tip Riff888, I was not aware of this.

For the other readers, here’s a bit more about call spoofing:
https://exchange.telstra.com.au/fake-calls-what-is-call-spoofing/#:~:text=Call%20spoofing%20is%20where%20a,over%20t he%20last%20few%20years.

I was chatting to a girl on a dating app recently who asked for my WhatsApp number which I provided.

It became evident fairly early in our conversation that she is a scammer of some sort - querying how my stock portfolio was going lol - obvious red flag.

I hope I’m not deluged with spam and robo-calls in future.

Thanks for sharing the article. That’s why there are so many girls asking to go to WhatsApp. I had one Asian lady who would not chat on SA and went to WhatsApp. When I started chatting with her she seemed to be too nice and friendly. Told me lived in Chatswood and from HK. Making investment here in Australia. I kept chatting till late at night. But in the morning I felt this is weird as she was way to friendly and sweet taking. I blocked her both on WhatsApp and the SA profile. There are two others I think I should do the same. One of them said she is from Japan and will be in Sydney next week. Wants to meet at her hotel. When I told her I am in Brisbane that day. I got a message the next day that her plans have changed and will be in Sydney the following week. Too much of a coincidence I say. Asian girls on the SA site are not easy to talk to. They carry a big chip on their shoulders. So Bella are ringing.

Suspicious profiles I came across and there are many

Sasha baby
AdorableDiva
ElegantModel
Money Turns me on
Bhadbunny (I still chatted to her even after reading Riff888 comment)
Ocean (she kept asking for money for rego, asked her to meet but said was busy. Then send a message saying rely if you want to meet in hour)

Looks like it’s not too hard to use a honey trap for men. Any 16
year old could fake this online.

[Riff888]

Nice one Riff888 you experience has been quite helpful to me in particular. Although I have not met many girls but have now made contact with few and they are keen to meet. Unfortunately on Friday I had two cancellations. It was not my lucky day. One young girl she is little curvy but she is pretty. She canceled on me twice after arranging a date. If I was more flexible with my timing I would have met more.

It will be interesting to know how you go. Indian girl you have to make her feel comfortable. Then make sure you she knows you respect her and hold her in high regards. The platonic date could be just a facade to show she is not easy girl. But as most girls on this sight know what men are looking for. They will agree for a private time. I would also like to meet Indian girl I think the one who canceled on Friday was one.There's this very hot Indian girl that looks like a Bollywood star. I'll send you her username by PM, she wants $400 for the first meet and will discuss the price for future meets then. I haven't organised a time yet.

Good advice for Indian girls, I'm not excepting much from tonight, it will be interesting though.

I had 2 cancellations from that Juliexo, I was about to pick her up from her suburb but she cancelled last minute.

Had another cancellation from a Campbelltown girl who had to babysit for the night [emoji23]. Oh well, that's life I guess.

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[Johnisfun1969]

Riff888 let me send you a private message. That will be a better idea. I think some girls may have joined but may still be nervous. But one of the girls who’s canceled twice still chats to me on sms. She has sent few pics also.

[BennyB]

Just join SA yesterday first time joining this type of app.Had a few msgs back but whn I tried to open it it’s asking to upgrade to read it. Thought it was free for posting n reading a few of the members.

You have to be a signed up, paid member to talk to girls on SA. If anyone could talk for free it would be a licence for more scammers and then it just descends into crap on the site.

Asking the guys to pay for the privilege means the girls feel more comfortable knowing that they are not talking to a complete scammer or cheapskate.

[BennyB]

Suspicious profiles I came across and there are many

Sasha baby
AdorableDiva
ElegantModel
Money Turns me on
Bhadbunny (I still chatted to her even after reading Riff888 comment)
Ocean (she kept asking for money for rego, asked her to meet but said was busy. Then send a message saying rely if you want to meet in hour).

There's always going to be a heap of scammer @johnisfun. One way to see if they have been reported elsewhere as scammers is to google their SA profile name "SA name - Seeking Arrangement" to see what comes up.

[Shiba]

You have to be a signed up, paid member to talk to girls on SA. If anyone could talk for free it would be a licence for more scammers and then it just descends into crap on the site.

Asking the guys to pay for the privilege means the girls feel more comfortable knowing that they are not talking to a complete scammer or cheapskate.

Thnks for your reply mate,will do a 1 off member for 90 days. Or u reckon do 1 off 30 days only?

[Riff888]

There's always going to be a heap of scammer @johnisfun. One way to see if they have been reported elsewhere as scammers is to google their SA profile name "SA name - Seeking Arrangement" to see what comes up.Nothing comes up when I do that search on Google for the SBs I've seen.

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[Rogeryou]

This week's update:

AdorableDame 21 Caucasian, unfortunately too tall for my liking.

LittleLeah 21 from Hong Kong, I swear she doesn't look Asian at all but says she's 100% Honky. She's a good girl, great for guys who like kissing but not much else.

Babyfleur 18 Caucasian, a very pretty girl but she's in Noosa and will ask you money for groceries. I found her real name via Pay ID.

Bhadbunny 22 Caucasian based in Penrith pretty much a scammer, said send me money I'll come to you.

Belle 21 mixed wants $6k in one hit for as long as you like for whatever you like. She said anything you desire. I said I'll think about it, my way of saying no thanks.

VibrantBli 23 Asian, too many questions, respect to anyone who gets her.

Natalia 20 mixed, glamorous big bootylicious type girl, tanned with big lips. Wants $700 PPM at least once a week.

CuteBae 28 Latin, OMG so hot but didn't message me back.

Hot Teen Student 19 mixed, very beautiful looks Italian or Lebanese. We were chatting in SA, she wanted to talk about my offer, I said let's take it to another app, she said bye bye. Not sure what happened there.

Saw the Taiwanese student from Burwood on Tuesday, got to the bed, kissing, sucking her tits. I move down for some DATY, she says her period just started. Oh great, no sex tonight was going through my head. Ummm we still can she said, I was like what. So it was BB period sex, blood on my dick and everything. Haven't done that since my first ex wife. She said don't cum inside and this girl does not do CIM. So I pulled out and told her to kiss me while I finish myself off.

Totally different to other Taiwanese girls I've met. Into heavy metal and hip hop, introduced me to NF and Hopsin in the car on the way back to her place.

These SBs are full of surprises.

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Super decent of you mate “you da man”

so many jokers are pushing their agenda or want something in return and very unwelcoming to the new folk.

This is the way to do it

[Johnisfun1969]

Nothing comes up when I do that search on Google for the SBs I've seen.

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Your are right. But the scammers can always start a new account with another profile name. The girl Bhadbunny is using a Old Kik id. If I remember it said 1800 days old. She even shared small clips and said before we meet can you give some money.

[sydind]

Currently window shopping but your posts keeps me motivated and keen mate!

[Johnisfun1969]

Currently window shopping but your posts keeps me motivated and keen mate!

Mate if you enjoy the chase and are patient on finding and chatting the girls you will love it. I have only seen one girl and experience is better than WL. What I like is there is no pressure for time. But then it can become expensive habbit depending on how many girls you see and what you
fork out.

[Riff888]

Super decent of you mate “you da man”

so many jokers are pushing their agenda or want something in return and very unwelcoming to the new folk.

This is the way to do itYeah mate, give it some time, we'll have great info for SBs on this forum for free.

A lot of members have been using SB sites for years and this forum has like over 100k members I think.

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[Riff888]

Your are right. But the scammers can always start a new account with another profile name. The girl Bhadbunny is using a Old Kik id. If I remember it said 1800 days old. She even shared small clips and said before we meet can you give some money.True, usernames can be changed at any time. Some girls are lazy and don't change their bio text.

That Bhadbunny is definitely a scammer, she just requested access to my private photos again [emoji23]

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[Riff888]

Mate if you enjoy the chase and are patient on finding and chatting the girls you will love it. I have only seen one girl and experience is better than WL. What I like is there is no pressure for time. But then it can become expensive habbit depending on how many girls you see and what you
fork out.Definitely more expensive seeing more than 2 girls ongoing.

If you're too used to seeing 3 girls a week, punting is better and more economical.

SBs are great if you have your own place and live alone. I don't have to spend money on hotels. Only if I meet a girl outside Sydney. There's some pretty girls in Newcastle but not many Dayuse hotels.

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[GoldfishMan]

Not surprising to find that there are a lot of scammers on all these SB sites. By putting yourself up as a potential SD, you’re advertising that you are of means. You wouldn’t be in there trying to sponsor a girl if you’re earning average wages.

[BennyB]

Not surprising to find that there are a lot of scammers on all these SB sites. By putting yourself up as a potential SD, you’re advertising that you are of means. You wouldn’t be in there trying to sponsor a girl if you’re earning average wages.

It's not terribly hard to spot the scammers and the time wasters. It's one of the downsides but at least you are not relieved of your cash.

Bait and switches generally don't happen as you manage this with a pre-meet. This is much harder with privates hiding behind the door.

[BennyB]

If they have sugar, you have milk (cum) and a beater (cock).
You could whip up a nice meringue.

Tho why waste so much time and energy chasing sugar babies like this?
You could head to Asia and get SYT amateur professionally employed girls (not WG's) falling over you for less effort and cost.

Yes, brothels are transactional, but so is everything in life.
I am new here, and this is the top of the new post feed and it appears very active, so I am happy to be educated on this phenomenon

Thanks and good question

1. I like the chase of a young attractive Caucasian student or white collar professional

2. I don’t punt Asians

3. I want long meets (5-6 hours) at my convenience for $300-400 with Caucasian beach babes

4. I want it BB and I want to take them places sexually they have not been before (WLs and MLS have seen it all)

5. International travel barely exists so I can’t just pop over to Europe to an FKK bar

6. I want no strings. No family drama. No one I’m “supporting” or a family back in Asia I’m responsible for.

[StiFFFy]

Thanks and good question

1. I like the chase of a young attractive Caucasian student or white collar professional

2. I don’t punt Asians

3. I want long meets (5-6 hours) at my convenience for $300-400 with Caucasian beach babes

4. I want it BB and I want to take them places sexually they have not been before (WLs and MLS have seen it all)

5. International travel barely exists so I can’t just pop over to Europe to an FKK bar

6. I want no strings. No family drama. No one I’m “supporting” or a family back in Asia I’m responsible for.Lol @ number 6... I take it you've come across quite a few of those Benny?

[BennyB]

Boasting is just rude. But I can say I’ve had high double digits in the past three years. That is only relevant to members here as it means I’ve seen my fair share of different types.

Only one that snared me and I ended up leaving a relationship to be with her for six months until I came to my senses.

[dotcumdotinyou]

I like number 2... You don't punt Asians but your on an Asian punting forum.

[BennyB]

Another penetrating glimpse of the obvious from you

[dotcumdotinyou]

Here's another...You tell everyone how busy you are with all these different girls in different states as well as running a business AND you have a family to look after. But you spend a shitload of time on here spruking you business, defending it when any negative comments appear and putting down those that don't agree with you.

I think Riff has a shitload more credibility on this subject than you do, as least he's unbiased and posts potential scammers out to the other bros here who are interested.

[BennyB]

I’ve received so much generous feedback from other members on here - so not everyone thinks the way you do.

In their PMs to me they ask me to just ignore you and thank me for my contribution. That's interesting in itself. Maybe something for you to reflect on.

I don't suppose you have stopped to think that, by behaving in such a mean-minded and spiteful way that you may actually be turning other members off yourself?

I hope you have as nice a day as you are.

[Riff888]

Here's another...You tell everyone how busy you are with all these different girls in different states as well as running a business AND you have a family to look after. But you spend a shitload of time on here spruking you business, defending it when any negative comments appear and putting down those that don't agree with you.

I think Riff has a shitload more credibility on this subject than you do, as least he's unbiased and posts potential scammers out to the other bros here who are interested.Thanks Dotcum

There's a few new 21 year olds this week. I'll let you know if they are scammers or not.

Had a plutonic meet yesterday with this vegan Indian 21 year old virgin and she wants to keep it that way. Broke as, took all the leftovers back with her. Refused a lift home from me. She's a bit quirky but she's funny.

Off to see a young mum in Campbelltown now. She asked me to bring protection for the first meet. Let's see how this goes.

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[BennyB]

I’m surprised that so many people think that dating sugar babies means you are sponsoring or someone taking care of someone’s livelihood.

In our culture it hasn’t commonly been used in this way and on Seeking there are very few Australian women who want to be tied down with that kind of obligation.

I would be wary of ones who do want large numbers, or even money for platonic dinners, or “someone to provide for their lifestyle” as it is a road to ruin. Once they start putting their hand out for nothing in return it’s never going to end well.

[exstar]

So I’ve let my Premium membership lapse and collected the kik ids I’ve wanted and will continue the ‘sales funnel’ from there.

Using a different profile pic and tagline I got much more hits and initial approaches from girls compared to previous iterations. I’ve been a bit spoilt in the past and this time around girls seem to be a bit more demanding, I’ve also become a bit more picky and whilst I had a couple of meet and greets, haven’t gone all the way just yet.

One girl in particular was absolutely my type and we got along famously during our meet and greet, and tied up another meeting to take things further, but alas for whatever reason she pulled out and ghosted. It happens, a lotta girls get cold feet in this world and I’ve learnt not to get my expectations high.

Will sign up again in aug/sep and see what the next generation brings in :)

Ps Cheers to the guys here who’ve contributed to this thread, BennyB and Riff888 and everyone else it was great seeing your insights.

I’ll add one to the potential ‘scammer’ list

FlirtyHottie - she’s been on the site multiple times under different accounts and almost uses same pose in profile pic each time. Claims to only do online arrangements.

Ones to look out for:

Ash22xo - had a meet and greet with her, very cute girl with islander background, kinda like a slimmer version of Beyoncé. Whilst she’s really really pretty just didn’t feel like we clicked conversation wise so didn’t go ahead.

Candice09 - blond insta model type girl, Euro looking face, can tell she does squats - has great sense of humour but our timings just haven’t been right to meet properly and kinda lost interest.

[blackpearl]

Hi bro Riff888 really appreciate your input . Any recommendation for campbeltown area? :)

[Riff888]

Hi bro Riff888 really appreciate your input . Any recommendation for campbeltown area? :)Haha I was just about to write something.

I'm a bit over C"Town girls. The young ones have like one or two kids and the sex is pretty vanilla.

I'm probably not going to make the drive there next time.

I'll send you some usernames in a PM.

I had no choice but to book a hotel on the North Shore for a meet tomorrow. That was her condition for the first meet.

Also, girls have been saying a few guys do the deed and take off without payment. They say stuff like, oh I'll transfer when I get home. So some girls are now asking payment up front.

It's beginning to feel like the old private days when Cracker was around.

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[Vader]

I can't believe the amount of time you guys put in to pay for sex

[BennyB]

I can't believe the amount of time you guys put in to pay for sex

I kind of agree. A good team to do the work, no international travel, discretionary income to spend and gorgeous women. What else am I going to spend it on when I’m dead?

[BennyB]

Becoming smart is just a matter of discovering the innumerable ways in which you are stupid.

[DireStraits]

I kind of agree. A good team to do the work, no international travel, discretionary income to spend and gorgeous women. What else am I going to spend it on when I’m dead?
I like what you did there :-)

[BennyB]

I like what you did there :-)

Thank you. Just picking up what gets put down?

[Sydboy65]

Wow interesting thread. I've seen some stuff online about this. thanks for sharing

[StiFFFy]

Doby I don't think this forum is for you mate, you seem to have mistaken it for something else, maybe an incel forum?

Kindly lay off the flaming

[Vader]

I like what you did there :-)

Go to the pub and shat them up for free.

[BennyB]

Go to the pub and shat them up for free.

How old are you Vader?

[alexalexliu1882]

I kinda lost on what’s happening here…

[BennyB]

It’s not terribly hard if you apply a manual filter to the conversation. Just ignore all of the childish comments and the dummy spits.

Please feel free to ask your own questions or contribute your own thinking if you are an experienced sugar baby punter. All constructive ideas are welcome.

Cheers
Bb

[juscruisin58]

It's obvious Doby is a pseudonym for one of the other clowns on here that has been called out, shut down or has lost his punch.
It's a shame the Mods aren't a bit more pro active.
Everyone trying to have a sane rational conversation on a topic of common interest and it is disrupted by stupid

[hogansheros_breakout]

out of date now..

[Sydboy65]

I've joined up for free. Lots of messages. I'm going to take your advice and pay. Hopefully its not money down the drain. Redhotpie was a stinker of a site.

[BennyB]

Take your time is my suggestion and remember that most normal women wait to have the guy make the first move. At least that is my experience. Whenever I have had a great time with a SB, it's invariably because I made the the first move in conversation. The girls making the first move are either pros, pimps or wanting some kind of online bullshit.

[hogansheros_breakout]

out of date now..

[Riff888]

My SA account will expire soon and I'm not renewing my subscription for now.

I have contacts on Kik, WhatsApp and Telegram and 3 ongoing girls, which is more than enough for me.

I've been going crazy the last few weeks, feeling light headed from taking Kamagra daily.

From seeing a variety of girls, I've learnt this; us punters have been spoilt by professional Asian WLs, especially if you've been with girls like Leena N5M or Rebecca GE. Not all SBs are good in bed and some are straight boring. Yes they're young and beautiful but if you're like me, service orientated, It can be a bit disappointing.

This girl here, super model body but was more interested in posing in the mirror than actually having great sex. Username babyanastasia77 21 Caucasian 170cm, I would say perfect body, like OMG. Eastern European looking face with high cheekbones and beautiful light green eyes. I payed $600 but I reckon you could get that down to $500. We had protected sex as well. She thought I would cum in seconds, hahahaha I've been punting conditioned [emoji1787]

I'm meeting the boys for drinks and dinner tonight. Nothing but sleep tomorrow. Then seeing one last new girl on Sunday.

After that, I'm sticking with my three favourites and if the Indo girl moves in, I'll have to stop the other two as well.

Loose ends; girls I don't want to see anyone have my number and a few girls know my address. Good thing I live in a secure apartment with 24 hour concierge.

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[Riff888]

Take your time is my suggestion and remember that most normal women wait to have the guy make the first move. At least that is my experience. Whenever I have had a great time with a SB, it's invariably because I made the the first move in conversation. The girls making the first move are either pros, pimps or wanting some kind of online bullshit.This is not always the case.

Two out of my three ongoing girls made the first move by sending me a message. This was on my first account in November 21 when I had a profile picture.

I don't have a profile picture on my current account, only private pictures.

It's a good way to screen out WLs and scammers. If they want me to contact them on another app without seeing my private photos. This is a red flag for me.

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[Shiba]

@hogansheros that’s wat Iv done myself. Having a burner phone is a must if ur going to be doing this kind of stuff.

@Bennyb ur inbox is full mate can’t pm u.

[Nthnrr]

I joined up recently too. Have a meet and greet organised next week.

Has anyone tried the video chat. Had one girl trying to get me to use it this afternoon. Apparently you need to activate it and she said to go to seekingvideochat.com When you go there and start going through the questions it eventually asks for credit card details even though you are a paid member?

I went no further. KindnessOverload was the girl and she approached me

[BennyB]

I joined up recently too. Have a meet and greet organised next week.

Has anyone tried the video chat. Had one girl trying to get me to use it this afternoon. Apparently you need to activate it and she said to go to seekingvideochat.com When you go there and start going through the questions it eventually asks for credit card details even though you are a paid member?

I went no further. KindnessOverload was the girl and she approached me

I haven't used it. I am happy to video call over WhatsApp. I know others use FaceTime.

Interested in why credit card details are required. If it's not a free chat function, then how does it compete with the many that are?

Have you reverse searched the image?

[BennyB]

This is not always the case.

Two out of my three ongoing girls made the first move by sending me a message.

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If it's working for you that's great. As I said "most normal women..."

When a new member jumps on, invariably it's the fresh meat scenario. And the ones who jump him are usually the scammers, onliners, etc. I've tested this several times by putting up a new profile and watching it unfold. And I read about countless members who sift through the same crap.

That's not to say that a girl who reaches out you won't get on with or even have a good meet with. But basic male / female dynamics on a sugar dating site are no different from the physical world. Very few women in bars approach men and turn out to be the best sex of your life.

I pay no more than $400ppm. I expect BBFS at the minimum and BBAnal from any that are ongoing. My admit my expectations are high and so I won't take just anyone who stops by for a chat and a fuck.

[BennyB]

you should be prepared before you start.

0) get a disposable email address for the registration
a) get a kik account
b) get a $5 Aldi SIM and throwaway number
c) Get a whatsapp account using this new number

d) get some nice profile action pics to use.


This is excellent advice. The separate sim works best in a dual sim phone don't you think? or are you constantly swapping in and out. My iPhone would drive me nuts doing that.

[Riff888]

If it's working for you that's great. As I said "most normal women..."

When a new member jumps on, invariably it's the fresh meat scenario. And the ones who jump him are usually the scammers, onliners, etc. I've tested this several times by putting up a new profile and watching it unfold. And I read about countless members who sift through the same crap.

That's not to say that a girl who reaches out you won't get on with or even have a good meet with. But basic male / female dynamics on a sugar dating site are no different from the physical world. Very few women in bars approach men and turn out to be the best sex of your life.

I pay no more than $400ppm. I expect BBFS at the minimum and BBAnal from any that are ongoing. My admit my expectations are high and so I won't take just anyone who stops by for a chat and a fuck.Hang on; didn't you say you always have protected sex first then progress to BBFS after both have test results?

How long would this take from the first meet to the sexual health results?

Surly you would have some usernames that would do all this for $400.

Has anyone else in this forum done BB anal for $400?

Do you have any usernames of old arrangements?

I have provided a few usernames of girls I've been with so what's the issue?

Didn't you also say that you use a blurred photo of yourself? It's just common sense, of course scammers and WLs would contact you without a real photo.

It's different if you use a real picture. Some girls might actually like your look and contact you first.

Maybe $400 is the norm in Melbourne but most Sydney girls are asking $600.

Update on the Taiwanese girl. She absolutely loves DATY, she was sweating so much that I had to change the sheets and even the mattress protector. She's loud, I'm sure my neighbours heard everything. The connection is real. She's looking into my eyes with those beautiful eyes. She holds my face and softly whispers, don't cum inside. Of course I will do what she says. I cum all over her flat stomach and I was done. I never knew a petite girl could sweat so much. We now see each other weekly and she wants me to take her to hotpot and Japanese BBQ on weekends.

Sorry but I'm not revealing her username, I can't believe how many have asked.

That whole, I'm seeing a Taiwanese girl too, what's her username because I want to see if it's the same girl will not work. Anyway, she's no longer active on SA.

For those that like dark girls, try username Chocolate Goddess, 23 mixed absolutely stunning. She likes generous men.

Jen193 is a cute Asian girl, 24 with expensive taste.

Sarah M, 24 Latin is hot and is very friendly. Thank me later. Have good photos.

The plutonic girl I'm done with, Sincere Student 21, a bit damaged but really pretty. Still a virgin but her price has gone up to $180 per meet.

Good luck

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[Johnisfun1969]

I joined up recently too. Have a meet and greet organised next week.

Has anyone tried the video chat. Had one girl trying to get me to use it this afternoon. Apparently you need to activate it and she said to go to seekingvideochat.com When you go there and start going through the questions it eventually asks for credit card details even though you are a paid member?

I went no further. KindnessOverload was the girl and she approached me

A warning to everyone on seeking there are scammers using sexy girls pic to get you to click on links that may steal your personal information. I had two asking to click on link to get verified. Looks like yours was fill information including credit card. You may even hand your car keys also. The seeking web site allows to make video calls. No need to create a separate one and especially pay.

Some scammer use WhatsApp and take the time to build relationships. Then they will slowly extract information. I have already experienced 2 x girls on WhatsApp they are super nice to you. As it felt too good to be true my alarm bells were ringing and I blocked their numbers.

[Johnisfun1969]

So how do we score with these women? I’ve been on Seeking before and it’s not like a brothel. You can’t just pick from the menu. You have to know what hooks them

This just sounds like some guy shit talking at a bar.

Hi FranktheGun,

The member Riff888 is not talking shit. He is the only only truly sharing his experiences. He is having a ball. He is even sharing the profile names to help others cut through the small talk required. If you are a full paying member you could contact the girls mentioned in his post and ask directly.

I have recently joined seeking. When I say recently it was early Feb. There are all kinds of girls in the site. The one in the age bracket over 23 and who have been on site long enough know what punters want. They will quickly ask you what arrangement you are looking for or even they expect to be rewarded. There are always some looking for online or platonic relationships. My experience is majority of the girls may prefer to at least meet for drinks first. Others may want you to wine and fine before joining in the room. All they want to know if you are presentable and not a weirdo.

Some girls may chat and look keen but if you take too long get distracted with other members. I had few like this. Some girls may agree to meet and the last minute cancel probably their regular or more generous SD may have contacted them. Or they could be double booking themselves and then choose to go with one.

I have chatted to lot if girls but when in Sydney I am busy and driving my son around on the weekends and can’t get away. I was able to only see one girl so far. Two meetings I arranged got cancelled last minute. A third one turned to be a scammer who wanted me to get verified by clicking the link she sent. I was lucky that I did not think with my dick otherwise would have given all my personal information including driver license over the internet.

I spent last three days in Gold Coast and Brisbane. I met a lovely girl in GC she was absolutely fun and gave the gf experience. For the two nights I had dates arranged. The one on Wednesday got cold feet and canceled last minute. On Thursday I met this nice red head and we had a good time.

[Johnisfun1969]

Hang on; didn't you say you always have protected sex first then progress to BBFS after both have test results?

How long would this take from the first meet to the sexual health results?

Surly you would have some usernames that would do all this for $400.

Has anyone else in this forum done BB anal for $400?

Do you have any usernames of old arrangements?

I have provided a few usernames of girls I've been with so what's the issue?

Didn't you also say that you use a blurred photo of yourself? It's just common sense, of course scammers and WLs would contact you without a real photo.

It's different if you use a real picture. Some girls might actually like your look and contact you first.

Maybe $400 is the norm in Melbourne but most Sydney girls are asking $600.

Update on the Taiwanese girl. She absolutely loves DATY, she was sweating so much that I had to change the sheets and even the mattress protector. She's loud, I'm sure my neighbours heard everything. The connection is real. She's looking into my eyes with those beautiful eyes. She holds my face and softly whispers, don't cum inside. Of course I will do what she says. I cum all over her flat stomach and I was done. I never knew a petite girl could sweat so much. We now see each other weekly and she wants me to take her to hotpot and Japanese BBQ on weekends.

Sorry but I'm not revealing her username, I can't believe how many have asked.

That whole, I'm seeing a Taiwanese girl too, what's her username because I want to see if it's the same girl will not work. Anyway, she's no longer active on SA.

For those that like dark girls, try username Chocolate Goddess, 23 mixed absolutely stunning. She likes generous men.

Jen193 is a cute Asian girl, 24 with expensive taste.

Sarah M, 24 Latin is hot and is very friendly. Thank me later. Have good photos.

The plutonic girl I'm done with, Sincere Student 21, a bit damaged but really pretty. Still a virgin but her price has gone up to $180 per meet.

Good luck

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Good to hear Riff888 you are having fun with the Taiwanese. You have been sharing good intel on these girls and it’s been helpful. From your earlier comments I am finding most girls are prepared to accept 500 mark. Some may go below but they may or may not see you.

Mate I think your message box may be full I tried to send a message but would not go.

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out of date now..