Asking for extras

[Oosuki]

Slowly transitioning into more of an rnt sort of guy instead of fs, but I was wondering if asking for extras upfront to those kind of "shops" is appropriate, especially for a first time visit or would it be better to let the magic happen first time around. Everytime I rock up to a new shop, I consider asking up first but feel rude to so I just shutup and let her do her thing [emoji23]

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[punter-pie]

If they offer extras they will yell you when you ask, if not then they weren't going to in my experience

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[Oosuki]

If they offer extras they will yell you when you ask, if not then they weren't going to in my experience

Sent from my SM-G998B using TapatalkWhen would you ask? At the start? During? I usually wait till when they whisper whats on the table but I'd rather know off the bat when I enter the room

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[punter-pie]

When would you ask? At the start? During? I usually wait till when they whisper whats on the table but I'd rather know off the bat when I enter the room

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[Oosuki]

Ill give it a shot next time i have an urge, dont have the confidence to outright hopefully all goes well [emoji23]

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[PervySage]

Ill give it a shot next time i have an urge, dont have the confidence to outright hopefully all goes well [emoji23]

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If you know the shop is an RnT just pick a girl and go into the room... Lie down for massage and the topic will come up...

[GoldfishMan]

Bro Oosuki, just rely on this forum to know which shops are known RNTs. If they're NOT mentioned in this forum, then you need to thread a bit more carefully and do a few "litmus tests".
For one thing, I wouldn't ask up front at the counter. There are lots of "red flags" that would indicate that they're a legit joint (no extras):
- uniformed masseuses
- health fund rebate
- really comprehensive menu of legit treatments
- in the room, they provide robes for you to change into, and the masseuse leaves the room while you change into them.

Big green flag is you strip naked, and she just stays in the room waiting for you to lie down. That's game on.

[BlackToad]

I never ask upfront like that even in known RNT shops that I’ve been to previously and definitely not in a new shop. Seems it could be a little awkward to do that and there’s no need anyway.

I just let the girl start with part 1 which usually gets more flirtatious as time goes on, then the girl asks if I want extras. I ask what’s on the menu, if I want to try for FS I’ll ask for a B2B first, then when the girl is close to me and if she (or me) seems to be getting a bit horny I ask about FS. A surprising number of girls are ok with it but for a price - then it’s your choice.

[limbi8888]

yeah if they say take off all your clothes then its a RNT. I normally let them initiate it. I don't like to upset the girls

[asiafever]

Yeah I have never asked up front, and wouldn't be doing so at the counter. You shouldn't need to ask, there should be a few telltale signs.
1. If the shop is in a centre like a Westfield, forget it.
2. If the shop offers health fund rebate, 99% chance forget it.
3. Has a lot of reviews from female customers on Google, 95% chance forget it.
4. Girl tells you "get undressed but leave your underwear on." 92.5% chance forget it.
5. Bright lighting and a number of diplomas etc on the well, 97.8% chance forget it.
6. Reception girl, do they look professional? If so, 87.5% chance forget it. If reception guy in uniform, immediately 98.3% chance forget it.
7. "No Sex" sign on wall? 2.5% chance forget it.
8. Ring up to enquire and shop talks about "pretty girls", 1.3% chance forget it.
And so on.
Go for the reviewed shops first, learn the signs that it is a rnt shop, then spread your wings. I cant remember the last time I mistakenly went to a legit massage shop but it would have to be 10 years ago, even if not reviewed anywhere.

[aussiegaigin]

I never ask upfront like that even in known RNT shops that I’ve been to previously and definitely not in a new shop. Seems it could be a little awkward to do that and there’s no need anyway.

I just let the girl start with part 1 which usually gets more flirtatious as time goes on, then the girl asks if I want extras. I ask what’s on the menu, if I want to try for FS I’ll ask for a B2B first, then when the girl is close to me and if she (or me) seems to be getting a bit horny I ask about FS. A surprising number of girls are ok with it but for a price - then it’s your choice.
In most shops, if the girl asks for the money in the room, not reception, this is a good indication of her being open to offers. Have the shop fee in your hand, with an extra $50. If she takes this too, you can start negotiating. In a legit shop, you will pay reception the fee before or after the session.

[TARegistrar]

I've also found that RnT shops will be a lot more insistent on cash instead of card. But yeah, big sign for me has always been if they ask you to strip fully down for the massage, I've always been offered more than a massage in those cases.

[cuteguy]

The usual hint is 'open minded'. This means the girl may be open to offers or willing to provide extras. However, this does not mean she will offer extras to every guy that comes in. Rule one is never ask at reception for extras. You should remember RNT shops are supposed to provide massage only not sex. What may happen behind closed doors is a matter between you and the girl. Most girls who do extras tend to mention it but many times after part 1 is done. This leaves less time for other juicy extras. On the other hand, you may bring it up early in a subtle way if you're keen on any extras.

[Rogeryou]

The usual hint is 'open minded'. This means the girl may be open to offers or willing to provide extras. However, this does not mean she will offer extras to every guy that comes in. Rule one is never ask at reception for extras. You should remember RNT shops are supposed to provide massage only not sex. What may happen behind closed doors is a matter between you and the girl. Most girls who do extras tend to mention it but many times after part 1 is done. This leaves less time for other juicy extras. On the other hand, you may bring it up early in a subtle way if you're keen on any extras.

I don’t really do RNT anymore but have done plenty, I have to disagree with you man.

I always asked reception so they could point me in the right direction and often ask the girl straight out right away because I liked starting with Part 3 and finishing with Part 1

Angels touch Riverwood is a free tip for anyone out that way.

The rules

1. Always say you have been there before even if you have not.
2.You saw the thai girl last time but can’t remember her name.
3. Even tell them you have seen them before and are disappointed they don’t remember you.
4. Tell the boss lady you a regular at their competitor and want to try a new place and you love girls that do extras.

First time I went to summers told her #4 everyone was running around to accommodate me got an awesome room refreshments and FS.

[GoldfishMan]

I don’t really do RNT anymore but have done plenty, I have to disagree with you man.

I always asked reception so they could point me in the right direction and often ask the girl straight out right away because I liked starting with Part 3 and finishing with Part 1

Angels touch Riverwood is a free tip for anyone out that way.

The rules

1. Always say you have been there before even if you have not.
2.You saw the thai girl last time but can’t remember her name.
3. Even tell them you have seen them before and are disappointed they don’t remember you.
4. Tell the boss lady you a regular at their competitor and want to try a new place and you love girls that do extras.

First time I went to summers told her #4 everyone was running around to accommodate me got an awesome room refreshments and FS.
Actually mate, “have you been here before?” is also a huge green flag. And yes, always answer to the affirmative to get the extras!

[cuteguy]

I don’t really do RNT anymore but have done plenty, I have to disagree with you man.

I always asked reception so they could point me in the right direction and often ask the girl straight out right away because I liked starting with Part 3 and finishing with Part 1

Angels touch Riverwood is a free tip for anyone out that way.

The rules

1. Always say you have been there before even if you have not.
2.You saw the thai girl last time but can’t remember her name.
3. Even tell them you have seen them before and are disappointed they don’t remember you.
4. Tell the boss lady you a regular at their competitor and want to try a new place and you love girls that do extras.

First time I went to summers told her #4 everyone was running around to accommodate me got an awesome room refreshments and FS.

Each shop is different. Some prefer to follow the rules and keep trading while others take risks and make it known that their girls offer extras such as FS which can land them in trouble with council if they are doing more than just massage.

Well there's nothing stopping you from asking a shop who will provide extras but it's not a brothel that provides sex. I guess each to their own in how you approach it.

[Rogeryou]

Each shop is different. Some prefer to follow the rules and keep trading while others take risks and make it known that their girls offer extras such as FS which can land them in trouble with council if they are doing more than just massage.

Absolutely man and that’s why it’s called fishing and not catching! If you take the boss lady aside and ask for recommendation of who does extras they usually steer you in the right direction without being obvious. The will say idk idk a number of times and then say try Jenny. Is this full proof no but it will save you some dead punts and money searching. You also have to have a bit of swagger man

[asiafever]

Actually mate, “have you been here before?” is also a huge green flag. And yes, always answer to the affirmative to get the extras!

Yep "Have you been here before?" is a good sign, and always answer yes.

[Labia Vortex]

I never ask
The subject is usually Introduced by the ML
If extras aren’t offered then she either doesn’t do them
…or she’s not into me

[GoldfishMan]

I never ask
The subject is usually Introduced by the ML
If extras aren’t offered then she either doesn’t do them
…or she’s not into me
Same here bro. Not trying to encourage ungentlemanly behaviour, but I usually just leave my hands dangling over the edge of the table above my head when lying facedown, wait for her to stand over that part of the table, then I just feel up her legs and her butt. Of course, before even getting to that point I would've made it abundantly clear to her what I was there for. Lots of friendly chatter, compliment her on her beauty, dick in clear view and pointing downwards along my leg. Some girls giggle, some call me a "huai tan" (bad egg) in Mando with a playful slap on my wrist.... It's that sort of girlish feminine behaviour that I love about Chinese ladies, love em!

[aussiegaigin]

In the room, look for signs saying "sexual services not available, don't ask". The more prominent the sign, the more likely you will be offered them.

[Oosuki]

Wow I didnt expect this thread to blow up after sleeping. Thanks to everyone contributing and providing some insight and some tips! Just a few follow ups then:

If I'm repeating a visit to the same place with a different girl would it be safe to just ask for extras since at this point they will know who you are(maybe?) And what you are here for.

Would tipping $50 at the start be a good idea? Just to suggest to the ml what you want

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[dotcumdotinyou]

Best to wait for her to offer, that way she'll give you the FULL menu. Also don't expect the same service from a different girl.

[Oosuki]

Oh Im fine with a nude HE, but its nice to know that additional services are on the table

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[Candy1234]

Usually the ones (ML) that ask “what would you like?” Straight away on flip to me FS is 95% sure on the menu. The ones that straight away ask “$50 HJ ok?” Usually not too keen on other services, like I’ve learnt from here YMMV. Besides they are working for tips.

But then again I’m assuming you are going to those massage shops that is not in shopping malls, those ones surely HE so no need to worry to much on asking. That question will come on cue.

I would tip straight away if I visit the same girl more than once. That way boom boom, clean, go. No need for that awkward moment where you can see the girl is thinking about the tip after the deed is done, thinking on how to remind you to hand that cash over.

[Rogeryou]

I never ask
The subject is usually Introduced by the ML
If extras aren’t offered then she either doesn’t do them
…or she’s not into me

You know what bro I find a lot of the girls struggle with the question and I see the relief when I take the lead. It’s all in the approach and banter and how you deliver it. I like to take the lead and I like to run the show, it’s always my routine not theirs.

[punter-pie]

It's not really complicated. If you want extras then ask, if they don't do it they will tell you, if they do they will also tell you. If you want some suspense then don't ask and wait for the awkwardness on the flip.

The worst that will happen is that it's a legit shop and they may refuse service, but I assume if you're asking for extras then you want them so the shop probably wasn't for you anyway.

Simples

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[cryptex]

100% of the time the ML will ask if you are friendly with her. Those extra tips are what they are looking for.

[virgileco]

In the room, look for signs saying "sexual services not available, don't ask". The more prominent the sign, the more likely you will be offered them.

Hahaha, this is certainly true of an establishment I know with branches in St Marys and Bexley.


Usually the ones (ML) that ask “what would you like?” Straight away on flip to me FS is 95% sure on the menu. The ones that straight away ask “$50 HJ ok?” Usually not too keen on other services, like I’ve learnt from here YMMV. Besides they are working for tips.

100% this.

To add to what has already been said, it may take you a few visits before an ML is willing to give you extra service. I've recently seen an ML who didn't offer me CBJ the first time but did on the second occasion. It's actually pretty clever now that I think of it, because it makes you want to come back for more.

That being said, there are other times where you know there's a ceiling. I used to see a few ladies at Mon Ami in Kogarah a fair bit and it was always clear that the most you were going to get was a B2B, but that was it.

[storry_teller]

Hahaha, this is certainly true of an establishment I know with branches in St Marys and Bexley.



100% this.

To add to what has already been said, it may take you a few visits before an ML is willing to give you extra service. I've recently seen an ML who didn't offer me CBJ the first time but did on the second occasion. It's actually pretty clever now that I think of it, because it makes you want to come back for more.

That being said, there are other times where you know there's a ceiling. I used to see a few ladies at Mon Ami in Kogarah a fair bit and it was always clear that the most you were going to get was a B2B, but that was it.
You should go to another side of station to get extra extra. Daniel or Kogarah massage would be good choice

[Oosuki]

Thanks all for the set of replies. Got a rough understanding heading into my next session! Just another question:

I usually bring in $50 for the nude HE but how much more should i bring for the extra goodies[emoji1]

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[rooter]

In the room, look for signs saying "sexual services not available, don't ask". The more prominent the sign, the more likely you will be offered them.

The poster of the anatomical map with all the acupuncture points is another give away :)
When you see that poster then you know for sure there is no way sexual services are offered here, there is no way this could possibly be a front for prostitution :)

[F0x]

There are 3 HUGE signs you arr dealing with a RnT and not legit shop.

1. The pricing. RnT us ALWAYS 30-40 dollars below legit, and general guideline is about a dollar per minute. I.e 30 min for $35 45 min for $50 and 60 min for $65

2. Id they advertise a REAR entrance

3. The masseuse enter wearing fairly revealing tops, cleavage will be on display, and the outfit will not be any type of uniform. Usually legit wear uniform.

Hth.

And yes they will usually start some gentle ball teasing bear the end of massage, and will usually ask if you want anything extra, may be accompanied by the universal sign for a wank.

[Climax598]

The poster of the anatomical map with all the acupuncture points is another give away :)
When you see that poster then you know for sure there is no way sexual services are offered here, there is no way this could possibly be a front for prostitution :)
I go to 3 all have anatomical map display on outside and in room all have 2/3 parts.

[Candy1234]

Thanks all for the set of replies. Got a rough understanding heading into my next session! Just another question:

I usually bring in $50 for the nude HE but how much more should i bring for the extra goodies[emoji1]

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Normally 100 bucks for FS. Depends on what you mean by extras. For me is either $50 for B2B HJ or $100 for FS. I don’t really ask for BJ alone as FS always include BJ.

[Oosuki]

Normally 100 bucks for FS. Depends on what you mean by extras. For me is either $50 for B2B HJ or $100 for FS. I don’t really ask for BJ alone as FS always include BJ.If its $100 for FS how much would a bbj set back?

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[Candy1234]

If its $100 for FS how much would a bbj set back?


You asking for a bare one? Oh that depends on the girl if she does it or not. Just a BJ covered or not I never ask for that extra.

With the FS option - the ones I’ve seen some willing to do it bare without me asking, most of the time I don’t feel comfortable with it so I quickly asked for the dom. Only a few hotties I just went with it YOLO moment, bad boy.

Maybe they just throw it in as a freebie with the HJ cos they liking you? Repeating customers definitely get more options. Now I’m interested how much just a BJ set back.

[Oosuki]

Hopefully one of the experienced bros here can provide us some insight [emoji23], im sure the tip prices have changed over the years

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[StiFFFy]

Normally 100 bucks for FS. Depends on what you mean by extras. For me is either $50 for B2B HJ or $100 for FS. I don’t really ask for BJ alone as FS always include BJ.What the fk? That ends up being cheaper than a brothel! MLs must take a liking to you Candy. You work out yeah?


Hopefully one of the experienced bros here can provide us some insight [emoji23], im sure the tip prices have changed over the years

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It depends how deep your wallet and your generosity is. Over the weekend I read some greybeard (and I mean that in a respectful, endearing way) on Brisbane got a NHJ and wanted to pay her $200 on top of the entry charge. $50 seems a good number to start on.
Also, one other punter recommend you pack a $20 and $10, that way no room for them to stitch you up.
Ultimately IMO, it's about the uncertainty that gets the heart pumping, much like flirting or hunting.

[F0x]

I go to 3 all have anatomical map display on outside and in room all have 2/3 parts.

Think he was joking mate lol

/r/whoooosh

😁

[Oosuki]

From my understanding a standard nude HE is a pineapple and FS is on the table is $100. I guess it comes down to negotiating maybe for anything else. Also comes down to establishment and most importantly the ML

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[GoldfishMan]

You asking for a bare one? Oh that depends on the girl if she does it or not. Just a BJ covered or not I never ask for that extra.

With the FS option - the ones I’ve seen some willing to do it bare without me asking, most of the time I don’t feel comfortable with it so I quickly asked for the dom. Only a few hotties I just went with it YOLO moment, bad boy.

Maybe they just throw it in as a freebie with the HJ cos they liking you? Repeating customers definitely get more options. Now I’m interested how much just a BJ set back.
A long time ago I was quoted by a young hottie $100 for BBBJ and $150 for FS. She was smoking hot so I went for the full hog. BJs, covered or uncovered, do nothing for me, almost never been able to cum from it.

One thing to note about MLs and RNT. You need to be quick to choose which extra you want because once that oil goes onto your dick, you're likely only going to get a HJ. No girl is going to put that cheap oil they use in the shops into their mouths, or let it into their pussies!

[thefatness]

When she’s working the thighs with a hint of TT then you know there’s going to be extras on the flip.

Wait til she makes an offer and then negotiate from there. Let her know what you’re after. But if you’re after bbbj, you’d want to make sure you’re clean (take a shower before the session) to maximise your chances. Also, if your bald/old/ugly/stink then just go to an FS shop. You’re at least guaranteed CBJ and FS there even if you are a 1/10.

[virgileco]

You should go to another side of station to get extra extra. Daniel or Kogarah massage would be good choice

I've been to both and have had FS at both once apiece. My only issue with them is that their rosters are woefully out of date.


You asking for a bare one? Oh that depends on the girl if she does it or not. Just a BJ covered or not I never ask for that extra.

With the FS option - the ones I’ve seen some willing to do it bare without me asking, most of the time I don’t feel comfortable with it so I quickly asked for the dom. Only a few hotties I just went with it YOLO moment, bad boy.

Maybe they just throw it in as a freebie with the HJ cos they liking you? Repeating customers definitely get more options. Now I’m interested how much just a BJ set back.

Wait, what? Bare FS? Woah..


From my understanding a standard nude HE is a pineapple and FS is on the table is $100. I guess it comes down to negotiating maybe for anything else. Also comes down to establishment and most importantly the ML

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Generally, I have found it to be $50 for NHJ, $70 (possibly $100) for B2B, $100 for CBJ (although I do know of at least one place that does BBBJ) and $150 to $200 for FS.

[Oosuki]

I've been to both and have had FS at both once apiece. My only issue with them is that their rosters are woefully out of date.



Wait, what? Bare FS? Woah..



Generally, I have found it to be $50 for NHJ, $70 (possibly $100) for B2B, $100 for CBJ (although I do know of at least one place that does BBBJ) and $150 to $200 for FS.

Wow guess i lucked out last time i got a b2b for $50! Thats pretty steep for FS as well, guess ill bring along 150 next time and try to negotiate my way through

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[tawer5ag]

Recently when im seeing a girl for the first time, i go for 1 hr and let them decide on when they go for part 2.

At the start, its a toss up if i undress and lay on the table before the lady comes in or i wait with my clothes on and wait for the girl to come in so i can say hi and get a hug.

Previously, i sometimes ask upfront about extras or ask and touch their legs while part 1 is happening.


But now, when they ask if i want extraa, i usually ask whats on offer.
I try to get fs or whatever shes offering.

Been quoted usually (total extra cost)
Hj 50,
Cbj 70-100,
Bbbj 100-150,
Fs 100-500.

The worst pricing ive seen is this one girl which everything costs something.
Touching her below outside is 50, finger inside is 50 more.
Kissing is 50.
Turned me off the whole session as it was the first time ive seen it.
Basically asking for e&b costs for a session in a massage place.



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[Candy1234]

Wait, what? Bare FS? Woah..


Wait, what? Noooo, I would never go BBFS. Bare BJ was offered with covered FS.

Wow I’m surprise extras varies from person to person, I always thought 100 bucks is the standard. A few time they have asked for $140 FS that included the 1 hour massage. Usually damage for the day would be around $160 all up, that is why I stopped going to the brothel. $150/30mins at the brothel vs $160/1hr at the massage parlour. Extra 10 bucks gets me 30 mins extra time. A few years ago found a hot milf that does it $80/1hr FS plus massage after, man I missed that lady.

Yes, trim downstairs shave your ball sack does give you a higher chance. They do appreciate a well groomed man and easier for them to check what ever there is to check.

[StiFFFy]

Also, if your bald/old/ugly/stink then just go to an FS shop.
Jog on with that attitude... As a 6'6 fat hairy and bald punter, I've lost count the amount of times I've been given the universal sign for a shaft service on the flip.
It all comes down to the ML. And you should be clean/manicured regardless where you go

[CharlieM]

If you just go to any of the RnT shops in the Roster section on this forum, you can pretty much be assured that the minimum extra is a HJ, so need to stress just go lie down on the table and the ML will guide you. And there are a lot of good shops in the Roster section, no need to try your luck in any unknown shops, but if you're adventurous and hope you might find a hidden gem, why not.
If I'm going for RnT then I prefer to to a shop like Vitality Charm where you pay up front and just relax and enjoy. Not really looking for more than a good massage and some relief. Even when I go to Stanmore 200 I pay the manager upfront. Its just easier and it's all that I'm after on the day. If I'm in the mood for FS will just go straight to a FS shop. Its easier, cleaner, more comfortable and can work out cheaper plus you know what your getting. Each to their own.

[BennyB]

I don’t really do RNT anymore but have done plenty, I have to disagree with you man.

I always asked reception so they could point me in the right direction and often ask the girl straight out right away because I liked starting with Part 3 and finishing with Part 1

Angels touch Riverwood is a free tip for anyone out that way.

The rules

1. Always say you have been there before even if you have not.
2.You saw the thai girl last time but can’t remember her name.
3. Even tell them you have seen them before and are disappointed they don’t remember you.
4. Tell the boss lady you a regular at their competitor and want to try a new place and you love girls that do extras.

First time I went to summers told her #4 everyone was running around to accommodate me got an awesome room refreshments and FS.

I love your work Roger. I've not used number 4 before, but may try that the next time I go for a massage :-)

[mustyincognito]

Where I go to, $50 extra has got me part 3 before. However, it is is in the suburbs so the MLs are older.

[BennyB]

Slowly transitioning into more of an rnt sort of guy instead of fs, but I was wondering if asking for extras upfront to those kind of "shops" is appropriate, especially for a first time visit or would it be better to let the magic happen first time around. Everytime I rock up to a new shop, I consider asking up first but feel rude to so I just shutup and let her do her thing [emoji23]

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It's worth knowing what kind of shop it is.

If they are massage shops offering HJs or FS, they are likely unlicensed and are all offering illegal services. So discretion is important.

If you lie there and say nothing, you are flipping a coin. That's also ok if you like the thrill of it and to see what comes unasked. When I go for a massage these days, sometimes I'm happy to just zone out and let whatever happens, happen.

If you are specifically going in for release, you want to get some basics right

- nude up on the table. Wearing underwear just delays things and makes them wonder what you are there for
- be polite and and respectful - explain you want something relaxing and to focus on your lower body
- when your legs are being massaged, relax and make sure she has access to what she needs
- when you ask for extras, call her over and whisper in her ear - don't talk loudly and don't shout the house down

When all else fails, there is no substitute for good manners.

[birch]

well, here's a kinda newby question from a bloke who's been around these traps for over a decade... the back story is I lost my wallet. Thanks to applepay - I have almost instant access to my new credit card but what to do about my punting habit?? I'm mostly a RnT guy - with a card only, do you just prepay the tips up front or what?? Do the ML's trust the shop owner enough to get the right payment for the tips??

I have a week to 10 days until I can get access to cash without having to ask my wife!- I'm on day 1 and and am hanging out already... any sensible solutions gratefully received!

[asiafever]

well, here's a kinda newby question from a bloke who's been around these traps for over a decade... the back story is I lost my wallet. Thanks to applepay - I have almost instant access to my new credit card but what to do about my punting habit?? I'm mostly a RnT guy - with a card only, do you just prepay the tips up front or what?? Do the ML's trust the shop owner enough to get the right payment for the tips??

I have a week to 10 days until I can get access to cash without having to ask my wife!- I'm on day 1 and and am hanging out already... any sensible solutions gratefully received!

I've had girls suggest I can transfer $ to them (exactly how I've never bothered to follow up.)

[Labia Vortex]

I've had girls suggest I can transfer $ to them (exactly how I've never bothered to follow up.)
If you have a personal account....not shared...use Osko Payment
Funds transferred in a minute....no charge

[slickg]

Sometimes you also want to get the extras not too late, otherwise you just run out of time

[mustyincognito]

Sometimes you also want to get the extras not too late, otherwise you just run out of time

Yes so I guess the issue is also how to pace the session. Do people direct the flow or let the MLs be in charge?

[HappyDongDong]

Thank you for sharing, good information

[warwick1]

Thank you for sharing, good information

How many times can u say that, I can pm u a name and shop of a very cute Thai girl, do you want it or not....please don't say thank u for sharing again.......

[Oosuki]

Where I go to, $50 extra has got me part 3 before. However, it is is in the suburbs so the MLs are older.Id still say thats a steal compared to fs establishments!

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[GoldfishMan]

How many times can u say that, I can pm u a name and shop of a very cute Thai girl, do you want it or not....please don't say thank u for sharing again.......
28… 28 more times, he will do it. After that the pearly gates of heaven will swing open, angels will descend and give him a good wank… “welcome to the Private Massage forum, happydongdong!”.

[tawer5ag]

Definitely you want to know how much time you need/want for part 2 or more.

I usually let the ml decide how the first session goes.
Ive had extras 30 mins to 45 mins into the hour session

But the sessions after, i decide on when i want to start part2.
And girls are usually okay with it.
Had girls wherein i start part2 as soon as i enter.

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[krnboy]

Slowly transitioning into more of an rnt sort of guy instead of fs, but I was wondering if asking for extras upfront to those kind of "shops" is appropriate, especially for a first time visit or would it be better to let the magic happen first time around. Everytime I rock up to a new shop, I consider asking up first but feel rude to so I just shutup and let her do her thing [emoji23]

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Always ask straight up. Tug first, rub after

[keebab]

I'm a regular now at my local RNT. Just ask up front, settle the $$$ and you can both relax and enjoy.

[lebronjamespro]

I usually wait until she asks me

[asiafever]

Definitely you want to know how much time you need/want for part 2 or more.

I usually let the ml decide how the first session goes.
Ive had extras 30 mins to 45 mins into the hour session

But the sessions after, i decide on when i want to start part2.
And girls are usually okay with it.
Had girls wherein i start part2 as soon as i enter.

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First time I'm seeing a girl I would let her do her thing, if I've seen a girl more than once (and she remembers..) She knows part 1 needs to be condensed a little because 8/10 times I won't come as quickly as she might like. FS as well. If I'm doing a 30m massage I don't bother with any meaningful massage, I just tell the girl when she asks "Hard? Medium?" that I'll have extra soft, so she goes straight to tickling my legs, back etc.

[Climax598]

I'm a regular now at my local RNT. Just ask up front, settle the $$$ and you can both relax and enjoy.
Yes that's the correct way. Don't waste time so the ml know the deal.

[Candy1234]

Getting offer FS on first visit really excites me. As I don’t really flirt or give any sign of creeping, just normal convo asking random questions kinder like a little boy in a candy store.

If the sex is good than I will return at some point, return sessions would be part 2 first as I won’t know if I’m a 2 minute noodle or full on meal that day, my duration is very inconsistent.

Good to know everyone’s point of view. I get it… one thing may work for one may not work for others. I think girls do choose who they want to give that extra mile, especially the ones that know she’s a hottie.

I guess after the second visit and no more than a HJ is offer then she may not be that into you. Just go back to hunting ground, surely will find one that is willing.

[GoldfishMan]

I never settle up front, prefer very much to go with part 1 first and flirt / hit on her to my heart’s content while she’s massaging me.

Maybe I have a pervert face but somehow all the girls I see first time even at new shops I’ve never been to know what I want, so my part 1 are usually mixed with part 2… I’d have my paws all over her legs and ass whenever she’s at the top of the table.

[Oosuki]

I guess its time for me to hit that 50 post milestone to access the private goodies [emoji1]

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[stapman]

Yes, ask up front then no need to think about when the heck is she going to ask me. Of course make sure you are in a rnt first.

[Johnisfun1969]

For me it depends on my mood and how long since the last punt. When visiting new massage shop sometimes I don’t think of part 2. I enjoy a good massage so always ask for hard massage when the ml asks. I kind of enjoy the massage routine most ml follow. They start with the feet then legs and climb up and massage the back. Then come around for the shoulders and neck. Some girls would tease you with their touch or their body. I find that part exciting and then it’s time to turn over and discuss part 2. Sometimes I ask in the beginning so I know what to expect. There was one shop I in Campsie it seemed legitimate massage shop but to my surprise the ml offered part 3 upfront. This was a Chinese ml in mid 30 but wearing a sexy pink dress. Pure Massage in North Sydney is the only one where I had part 3. I never had bj in the shops. My experience with ml is once the extras are set the ml usually offers the same when you return. They stop trying to please you and the level of service drops after few visits.

[krnboy]

For me it depends on my mood and how long since the last punt. When visiting new massage shop sometimes I don’t think of part 2. I enjoy a good massage so always ask for hard massage when the ml asks. I kind of enjoy the massage routine most ml follow. They start with the feet then legs and climb up and massage the back. Then come around for the shoulders and neck. Some girls would tease you with their touch or their body. I find that part exciting and then it’s time to turn over and discuss part 2. Sometimes I ask in the beginning so I know what to expect. There was one shop I in Campsie it seemed legitimate massage shop but to my surprise the ml offered part 3 upfront. This was a Chinese ml in mid 30 but wearing a sexy pink dress. Pure Massage in North Sydney is the only one where I had part 3. I never had bj in the shops. My experience with ml is once the extras are set the ml usually offers the same when you return. They stop trying to please you and the level of service drops after few visits.

Which shop in campsie?

[1inchguy]

I would prefer a good hard massage than a soft one. I find it much more relaxing and comfortable. Anything happens after that is a bonus

[footboy2012]

Never understood what the big deal is here

If you know the actual parlour is not accepting private health rebates and advertises on the forum... you probably know you can ask for me

I just straight out ask in a cheeky way, do you offer any extras? They normally ask what kind of extras? I will try FS and if they say no, blowjobs.

I mean fuck it... what's the worse thing that could happen? Simply saying no?

[Mickeydrippen]

The fun part is figuring it out. Great thread. You definitely improve as you go along.

[Woostar]

I’m at a loss when you go in thinking it’s a legit place and am offered extras. When you ask what you can get, they say “anything, what do you want?”
How far do you go?

[Woostar]

How hard do you go when you ask “what can I get?” and they say “anything”

[footboy2012]

How hard do you go when you ask “what can I get?” and they say “anything”

Full service and make sure you take the money out then and there, so they know it's real

I have had a few instances where they have said no extras, but once they saw the pineapples they changed their mind :cool2:

[Woostar]

Full service and make sure you take the money out then and there, so they know it's real

I have had a few instances where they have said no extras, but once they saw the pineapples they changed their mind :cool2:

No doors, only curtains and walls that don’t go up to the ceiling. I’m sure those that are there for a legit massage would cop an eyeful. 😂

[Candy1234]

Side question: do you guys ever BYO dom and actually get to use it?

[StiFFFy]

Side question: do you guys ever BYO dom and actually get to use it?I'm guessing Dom reffers to condom and not a Dominatrix?

I'm too chicken to ask for more, but yes, always carry a spare in wallet just in case, next to the pineapples

[1inchguy]

Side question: do you guys ever BYO dom and actually get to use it?

I have one in the wallet that was there for few months, expecting to use at massage shops but they seem to have their own.
However I did up using it cause this ML didn't have one.

I stopped carrying one ever since but recently I had the cling wrap experience...

[virgileco]

Never thought about bringing my own dom. That's a great idea.

[Candy1234]

Cool, so bringing one isn’t that crazy. I preferred the thicker type so I won’t reach that point of no return that fast.

[cuteguy]

I have one in the wallet that was there for few months, expecting to use at massage shops but they seem to have their own.
However I did up using it cause this ML didn't have one.

I stopped carrying one ever since but recently I had the cling wrap experience...

Carrying a dom in your wallet might not be a good idea if you're sitting on it most of the time.

[Candy1234]

Better just in the pocket along with pineapples and strawberries, maybe blue berries. Pretend to drop it during transaction time would give her some hint hint. Is term pineapple on here because the $50 note is yellow?

[Oosuki]

So taking the advice here im happy to report that it worked out i got a part 1 > 3 > 1 > 2. Definitely took a hit to the wallet but was that an experience!

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[Candy1234]

So taking the advice here im happy to report that it worked out i got a part 1 > 3 > 1 > 2. Definitely took a hit to the wallet but was that an experience!

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Attaboy… how much did this session set you back? Where at if you don’t mind sharing, if yes no worries.

[Oosuki]

Attaboy… how much did this session set you back? Where at if you don’t mind sharing, if yes no worries.Ill pm

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[footboy2012]

a fair number of massage shops I have been to don't seem to have doms

there is one in the city where the ML said the owner was worried about council, so I had to BYO dom and dispose of it also - a bit weird, but I enjoyed doing her on the massage table (nice thai WL)

grabbed a box of doms from the convernience store

[Oosuki]

a fair number of massage shops I have been to don't seem to have doms

there is one in the city where the ML said the owner was worried about council, so I had to BYO dom and dispose of it also - a bit weird, but I enjoyed doing her on the massage table (nice thai WL)

grabbed a box of doms from the convernience storeReally? The ones I've frequent seem to have some on hand.

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[daty2022]

Yes Lobster =$20, Blue Swimmer =$10, Tree FROG =$100 (although I preferred the old Grey Nurse)

[Kiwi Punter]

Really? The ones I've frequent seem to have some on hand.

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I used to see a regular at Lotus 7 Wynyard and she always asked me for the dom. When I didn’t have it, didn’t get the action.

[dididodi]

There are 3 HUGE signs you arr dealing with a RnT and not legit shop.

1. The pricing. RnT us ALWAYS 30-40 dollars below legit, and general guideline is about a dollar per minute. I.e 30 min for $35 45 min for $50 and 60 min for $65

2. Id they advertise a REAR entrance

3. The masseuse enter wearing fairly revealing tops, cleavage will be on display, and the outfit will not be any type of uniform. Usually legit wear uniform.

Hth.

And yes they will usually start some gentle ball teasing bear the end of massage, and will usually ask if you want anything extra, may be accompanied by the universal sign for a wank.

I’ve been to places where the girls do wet uniforms, probably to give a professional feel. (Forgive the pun)

[GoldfishMan]

Side question: do you guys ever BYO dom and actually get to use it?
I always BYO even to brothels. Fucking hate the ones they use. I bring 0.01 if I'm going to meet a tried and trusted hottie, or 0.02 if it's a first visit. The 0.01s are too pricey to waste on a potentially bad punt, they're about $6 a pop and extremely hard to find the large sized ones these days.

[virgileco]

I used to see a regular at Lotus 7 Wynyard and she always asked me for the dom. When I didn’t have it, didn’t get the action.

Interesting. Perhaps some ML's don't offer FS unless you tell them you've brought your own dom...

[mysteryman56]

Asking upfront when unsure always risking it may ruin the whole session

[Oosuki]

Asking upfront when unsure always risking it may ruin the whole sessionThe way I find out whats on the table is to ease a conversation into it. Usually what I like to ask is "Do you enjoy working here?" Or something along those lines, and its a pretty easy segue into the topic [emoji16]

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[Johnisfun1969]

Which shop in campsie?

Mate this was few years ago and I can’t remember the name of shop. I was there only once. My customer was in near Canterbury Road. So one of those shops on Beamish street.

[1inchguy]

Carrying a dom in your wallet might not be a good idea if you're sitting on it most of the time.

That's true, I know what you mean. Most of the time I have my wallet in my backpack or have it on side pockets before punting.


a fair number of massage shops I have been to don't seem to have doms

there is one in the city where the ML said the owner was worried about council, so I had to BYO dom and dispose of it also - a bit weird, but I enjoyed doing her on the massage table (nice thai WL)

grabbed a box of doms from the convernience store

Yes, some shops the mamasan dont allow it.
This ML fold the Dom neatly and asked me to dispose it outside since mamasan would find out the evidence

[robnw2]

Lately I've found being offered hand sanitiser at the start is a good sign things will get handsy

[cuteguy]

Lately I've found being offered hand sanitiser at the start is a good sign things will get handsy

Definitely a hint from the ML that she may allow you to touch her but only with clean hands and fingers.

[kingqxxx]

Are there any ML that doesn't allow you to touch? I thought they all do.

[Woostar]

Are their any ML that doesn't allow you to touch? I would they all do.

Maybe ask Myfriend????

[StiFFFy]

Are their any ML that doesn't allow you to touch? I would they all do.
Maybe ask Myfriend????This. Asking for permission is sexy in its own way.

[daty2022]

Always ask permission unless previously agreed.

[Lookha]

If they offer extras they will yell you when you ask, if not then they weren't going to in my experience

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We generally know what shops are traditional and which ones offer extras. Shops with rear entry (of the building), separate rooms (not curtains), no uniforms (I mean not sexy clothing), late hours, advertise on forums, low on aesthetics and request..all off. Certainly we do get pleasant surprises at a traditional massage shops but this takes time.

[Candy1234]

Yeh same, I always ask… yes it’s obvious can touch at some point but as mentioned above sexy kind of different for the girl if the guy before you came in all touchy.

[RNT4LIFE]

At RNT place, I always pay the lady up front for the extra when she walks in, she than take control of the session.
During part 2, I always ask if I can teach before going to town, it’s just a respect thing.
And if we click and she’s responsive, I’ll ask for part 3.

[GoldfishMan]

I go by the vibe I get from her.

If she comes off as cold, standoffish, professional, unfriendly, fake, or no chemistry between us, all bad vibes... I don't even ask or make an attempt to touch anything. I just let her do her thing, try to get my rocks off, then I'm out of there and likely never to return. Asking and then being rejected is a huge turn off for me, completely kills the mood. No point ruining my fully paid punt when I already know what the answer's going to be.

On the other hand, with those I get good vibes on, sometimes I ask but most other times it starts "organically" without me asking. Mind you I'm not a "hardcore" groper. Mostly feel up their legs and ass, maybe play a bit with their tits. I never do FIV or even touch around that area as I don't think my fingers are ever clean enough in those situations. Only my mouth or my dick goes there or I don't touch it at all.

[Oosuki]

I usually go ahead and start touching generally when they offer me extras, feels clear to me at that point thats its ok. That is if its an rnt and not a legit massage

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[bummer]

There was one shop at hurstville which sometimes the girls wont discuss extras.
I actually found the reception one day said unless I waited for other girl... but she could do legit and other would come in later. I said ok and handed over a pineapple extra for later.
Whilst she was good, it was hot and i suggested she should strip down, she was embarrassed and I said the extra for yourself. so she stripped off. She eventually loosened up and on the flip I suggest some b2b which I offered another pineapple.
She agreed, so after a few minutes I suggested I give her a rub... which ended up as fs at her insistance as she got so turned on. Whenever I am in the area I give them a ring and if the right receptionist I book her. Never miss out now, from this legit shop.

[ButtLord]

Simple trick to know if shop offers extras is just to look at their website and see if they have either a roster or gallery with pictures of females. Hasn't failed me yet. Other simple stuff like if you have don't vision of the reception desk whilst on the street. They normally keep it discreet.

[HardCore]

We generally know what shops are traditional and which ones offer extras. Shops with rear entry (of the building), separate rooms (not curtains), no uniforms (I mean not sexy clothing), late hours, advertise on forums, low on aesthetics and request..all off. Certainly we do get pleasant surprises at a traditional massage shops but this takes time.

And neon OPEN signs.

[Einherjar112358]

7. "No Sex" sign on wall? 2.5% chance forget it.


I recall going in and once inside a room she straight up asked if I wanted extras. After explaining price I looked at the sign behind her and had a micro second of confusion on my face which she probably saw

[Einherjar112358]

which ended up as fs at her insistance as she got so turned on. Whenever I am in the area I give them a ring and if the right receptionist I book her. Never miss out now, from this legit shop.

Sounds like an AR worth reading. Does that end up in the private forum?
Would be interested to know more whenever I'm down that area

[HappyDongDong]

Extra has been gone up lately, a lot of girls start asking for $70 with the same service as before

[HardCore]

Unless there is a published price and even sometimes when there is you can always negotiate if your unhappy with the price the girl wants to put on the extras.

If your really worried about the price of extras then negotiate up front before you decide to start a session as it's often the best time to think clearly before you throw all reality out the window and just hand over your wallet to the young hottie that wants all your cash as she has your cock in her hand. haha

[AHLUNGOR]

Unless there is a published price and even sometimes when there is you can always negotiate if your unhappy with the price the girl wants to put on the extras.

If your really worried about the price of extras then negotiate up front before you decide to start a session as it's often the best time to think clearly before you throw all reality out the window and just hand over your wallet to the young hottie that wants all your cash as she has your cock in her hand. haha

There are quite a few all inclusive RnT shops around and all of them have pretty good standards :

227 Broadway, Sydney Baby, 43 Diva and my current favorite shop 200 Stanmore with the erotic two holes table which is a must try!

Then of course, people can argue that you still need to negotiate part 2.5 or part 3.

Well then , skip the negotiations and head to a FS shop and save yourself the headache! Unless the thrill of the negotiations, will she, won’t she is the part that you are after, then stop complaining and enjoy the ride.

Each to his own,

Cheers

[StiFFFy]

There are quite a few all inclusive RnT shops around and all of them have pretty good standards :

227 Broadway, Sydney Baby, 43 Diva and my current favorite shop 200 Stanmore with the erotic two holes table which is a must try!

Then of course, people can argue that you still need to negotiate part 2.5 or part 3.

Well then , skip the negotiations and head to a FS shop and save yourself the headache! Unless the thrill of the negotiations, will she, won’t she is the part that you are after, then stop complaining and enjoy the ride.

Each to his own,

CheersExcuse my ignorance, but what is part 2.5 and part 3?

[HamishAM]

Usually I ask it they do extras, followed by "do you suck". As we progress you can ask about bbbj or FS. Works most of the time with me.

I also always ask if I can touch, the girls usually appreciate it and think better or you

[AHLUNGOR]

Excuse my ignorance, but what is part 2.5 and part 3?

Part 2.5 is a blow job, part 3 is full service.

[virgileco]

There was one shop at hurstville which sometimes the girls wont discuss extras.
I actually found the reception one day said unless I waited for other girl... but she could do legit and other would come in later. I said ok and handed over a pineapple extra for later.
Whilst she was good, it was hot and i suggested she should strip down, she was embarrassed and I said the extra for yourself. so she stripped off. She eventually loosened up and on the flip I suggest some b2b which I offered another pineapple.
She agreed, so after a few minutes I suggested I give her a rub... which ended up as fs at her insistance as she got so turned on. Whenever I am in the area I give them a ring and if the right receptionist I book her. Never miss out now, from this legit shop.

Is this Sakura, the one opposite Sakura or the one in Ormonde?

[ch4nkei]

Well if you are going to RNT shop just be upfront and ask, no need to be shy

[Oosuki]

Part 2.5 is a blow job, part 3 is full service.And here i thought part 2.5 was the b2b before you slip in [emoji38]

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[Oosuki]

There are quite a few all inclusive RnT shops around and all of them have pretty good standards :

227 Broadway, Sydney Baby, 43 Diva and my current favorite shop 200 Stanmore with the erotic two holes table which is a must try!

Then of course, people can argue that you still need to negotiate part 2.5 or part 3.

Well then , skip the negotiations and head to a FS shop and save yourself the headache! Unless the thrill of the negotiations, will she, won’t she is the part that you are after, then stop complaining and enjoy the ride.

Each to his own,

Cheers

By inclusive do you mean just a nhj?

Also I think by being younger its would seem to be a lot easier to net that part 3, just my opinion

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[yellow_sub]

Usually I ask it they do extras, followed by "do you suck". As we progress you can ask about bbbj or FS. Works most of the time with me.

I also always ask if I can touch, the girls usually appreciate it and think better or you

Hey, don’t reveal my way to get blowed 😂

[V2539]

Not Sakura, no reception

[mysteryman56]

Be flirty when asking never hurts, but I agreed being younger may have better chance to net part 3

[StiFFFy]

Usually I ask it they do extras, followed by "do you suck". As we progress you can ask about bbbj or FS. Works most of the time with me.

I also always ask if I can touch, the girls usually appreciate it and think better or youAsking for permission before getting physical is a good idea (and potentially a turn on for some).
Part 2.5 is a blow job, part 3 is full service.Thank you

[rooter]

Well if you are really serious about asking for extras and not just a sleazy punter, or a cheap time waster, then you have to put into song and dance.
All girls love musicals. Gays do too, but that's for a different forum. Lets stick to girls.
So you have to compose a song and sing it just like in a musical.
Learn from the masters, Gilbert and Sullivan, Rogers and Hammerstein, Andrew Lloyd Weber, Leonard Bernstein, Steven Sondheim etc.
And then you have to sing it.
And if you are really serious then choreograph a dance routine for it too. Learn from the Masters like Gene Kelly, Fred Astaire, Sammy Davis Jr, and Frank Sinatra.
She will be totally charmed and she will suck your dick. And if its a sexy song and you sing and dance it well she will let you put your dick into her tight little pussy, and then you can sing a beautiful duet together, just like "Tonight" in West Side Story, but not "Somewhere" that's a bit too sad,

[footboy2012]

Be flirty when asking never hurts, but I agreed being younger may have better chance to net part 3

honestly, just reach for the wallet and show some pineapples

the site of the $ makes it more real and that you are not a tyre kicker

[beta101]

Wobble ur head works wonders. Source myself.

[GoldfishMan]

Wobble ur head works wonders. Source myself.

Do not under estimate the head wobble. It puts the recipient on edge, leaves them guessing if that was a yes or a no.

[slickg]

I always BYO even to brothels. Fucking hate the ones they use. I bring 0.01 if I'm going to meet a tried and trusted hottie, or 0.02 if it's a first visit. The 0.01s are too pricey to waste on a potentially bad punt, they're about $6 a pop and extremely hard to find the large sized ones these days.

bloody hell those 0.01 condoms are expensive

[cuteguy]

honestly, just reach for the wallet and show some pineapples

the site of the $ makes it more real and that you are not a tyre kicker

What is the point in reaching your wallet to offer some pineapples when some girls will insist they just do NHJ and nothing else only? In most cases, you won't persuade a girl if she does the same thing for all customers unless she has a change of heart or it was very quiet at the shop that day. For example, if a ML says she is only willing to perform CBJ and no FS because she has a boyfriend then taking out a fifty or two won't change anything. She won't do extras. Punters need to respect girls wishes and their boundaries.

[GoldfishMan]

What is the point in reaching your wallet to offer some pineapples when some girls will insist they just do NHJ and nothing else only? In most cases, you won't persuade a girl if she does the same thing for all customers unless she has a change of heart or it was very quiet at the shop that day. For example, if a ML says she is only willing to perform CBJ and no FS because she has a boyfriend then taking out a fifty or two won't change anything. She won't do extras. Punters need to respect girls wishes and their boundaries.
Yeah agree on this. These days I never try to persuade a girl to do more than what’s on offer. When she asks “what would you like?”, I simply answer “everything”. If “everything” means only a NHJ, so be it.
Offering more to get more than what she wants to offer is both a waste of time and, in my case at least, results in a really awkward situation that will just end up being a turn off for me.

[footboy2012]

What is the point in reaching your wallet to offer some pineapples when some girls will insist they just do NHJ and nothing else only? In most cases, you won't persuade a girl if she does the same thing for all customers unless she has a change of heart or it was very quiet at the shop that day. For example, if a ML says she is only willing to perform CBJ and no FS because she has a boyfriend then taking out a fifty or two won't change anything. She won't do extras. Punters need to respect girls wishes and their boundaries.

To clarify

Take it out, ask what extras, negotiate, transact

Don't push

[TechPunter]

Best approach I found is to always be receptive to the ML, and see what happens

[cuteguy]

If a ML will do extras she will most likely ask the customer. If you're keen like mustard on a ML you can ask her and see what she says. Simple.

[popped2]

Does anyone prefer not asking and hope that the girl will naturally just want to do more extra with you?
Love when that happens.

I also hate the business feel when i get asked for 30$ for b2b etc. So much better when they do it out of desire hehe

[Lookha]

It mostly depends on the shop. There are a variety of categories of shops. (Many more than discussed here). 1. Brothels …very clear. 2. RNT with FS extras (up to the girl with a range of pricing options) . Some of these shops advertise on this forum) 3. RNT no FS extras. (Unless girl does it quietly..bring your own condom.). 4. Legitimate massage shops with easy owner. ( you can get a secret hand job here…I generally wear large daggy underwear and say that I have a sore hip. They often say I can remove the underwear…it may or may not progress from here for hand job..success rate is 50 percent) 5. Traditional massage shop. They definitely prefer that underwear stays on. Massage is generally good.

[alexalexliu1882]

Just ask, what’s there to lose no?

[drifter]

I always wondered when a particular girl gets popular, would the other girls be thinking ...... what is she doing differently to us?

[popped2]

It mostly depends on the shop. There are a variety of categories of shops. (Many more than discussed here). 1. Brothels …very clear. 2. RNT with FS extras (up to the girl with a range of pricing options) . Some of these shops advertise on this forum) 3. RNT no FS extras. (Unless girl does it quietly..bring your own condom.). 4. Legitimate massage shops with easy owner. ( you can get a secret hand job here…I generally wear large daggy underwear and say that I have a sore hip. They often say I can remove the underwear…it may or may not progress from here for hand job..success rate is 50 percent) 5. Traditional massage shop. They definitely prefer that underwear stays on. Massage is generally good.

What type of legitimate ones have higher percentage chance. All i can think of is the thai ones?

[Lookha]

Yes. I agree but I only visit Thais. My strong preference. Possibly we are all different.

[alexalexliu1882]

Yes. I agree but I only visit Thais. My strong preference. Possibly we are all different.

But isn’t legit Thai place mainly uses curtains to separate the beds? Can’t image how to proceed to part 2

[Lookha]

I don’t go to Thai places with curtains. The private room is very important. Shower even better. Curtains are sure sign that it’s not on (and/or off). Of course, the last thing that a conventional customer wants to hear is moaning and conversation in the neighbouring space. There are plenty of Thais at all places.

[Mickeydrippen]

Yes good manners go a long way. In my experience massage girls are happy to have you appreciate their service but really feel terrible if you 1) expect them to do things they are not comfortable with. 2) speak in a vulgar way to them 3) moralise on them. Many girls are really trying to get by and finance their life and help their family.

[cuteguy]

I always wondered when a particular girl gets popular, would the other girls be thinking ...... what is she doing differently to us?

I'm sure the other girls will figure out why their work colleague is popular. You don't need to be Einstein to do it.

[alexalexliu1882]

I'm sure the other girls will figure out why their work colleague is popular. You don't need to be Einstein to do it.
I’m sure they would chat with each other as well

[cuteguy]

I’m sure they would chat with each other as well

You're right. I had a few MLs (who didn't do extras) reveal what their friends could do if I was interested in having another session with their work colleagues. It appears they want to help each other out so girls can make as much money possible if they see it is possible.

[alexalexliu1882]

You're right. I had a few MLs (who didn't do extras) reveal what their friends could do if I was interested in having another session with their work colleagues. It appears they want to help each other out so girls can make as much money possible if they see it is possible.

That’s interesting hahaha, I always thought it would be rude to ask about other girls

[dragonhunter]

What is the standard pricing for this? $50 for NHJ and B2B, $100 for CBJ, $150 for BBBJ, $200 for FS?

[StiFFFy]

What is the standard pricing for this? $50 for NHJ and B2B, $100 for CBJ, $150 for BBBJ, $200 for FS?Welcome NewFriend,
The prices are up to the ML and you to negotiate. There's no rule in place, but from what I've seen on here, the more generous you are the more open minded the ML is. Pineapples change minds quickly.
If you tip generously, the ML will remember you next time and mayhaps offer more.

[cuteguy]

That’s interesting hahaha, I always thought it would be rude to ask about other girls

Most girls know each other especially if they are Thai. It's not rude to make enquiries about other girls. You could ask how many girls are working that day. If not busy, the girls will suggest a double or even recommend another girl for another session.

[cumquat]

That’s interesting hahaha, I always thought it would be rude to ask about other girls

Far from rude , too ask .

Personally , There is no firm rule ; let them suggest or, for you to quickly establish why youre there and what you’d like . I opt for being active in the ‘massage’ and will not usually wait for the flip unless it’s a remarkably good massage . Which is not likely on most occasions. Sometimes it’ll be clear from the moment of being in the room . All play, no pretence



Remember it also works in reverse , particularly if you become a regular of a m/wl and at a shop. Any comms you may have with others, highly probable , will get back to your regular ��

Only happened last night to me .. with a Taiwanese woman . resulting in absolutely none of the extras which I’d grown accustomed and were present at the commencement of the booking after 2 glasses of a good Prosecco , insulted and bitten , then all privileges denied With a clear indication any future booking cancelled

So they will recommend others , and I agree from my experience Thais more so , and they will share info on you

[cuteguy]

In relation to MLs its standard to tip $50 for NHJ and if she says part 3 then an extra $100. What if the ML goes straight to part 3 after part 1 without taking off her top covering her breasts (but she removed her panties) and no HJ. Would you be inclined to still pay her $50 plus $100 or just $100?

[StiFFFy]

In relation to MLs its standard to tip $50 for NHJ and if she says part 3 then an extra $100. What if the ML goes straight to part 3 after part 1 without taking off her top covering her breasts (but she removed her panties) and no HJ. Would you be inclined to still pay her $50 plus $100 or just $100?If she's good at what she does heck yeah!

[limbi8888]

Normally 100 bucks for FS. Depends on what you mean by extras. For me is either $50 for B2B HJ or $100 for FS. I don’t really ask for BJ alone as FS always include BJ.

wow most of the places i goto ask for $150 for FS

[BlackToad]

wow most of the places i goto ask for $150 for FS

Seems to vary between ML, I’ve been asked anywhere between $50 upto $250 for FS from an ML.

[Trampoline]

Thanks Asiafever, that’s a such great list of guild lines. Really practical. Well done 👍

[priapus1966]

It is worth considering the numbers. If you book for 30 minutes at say $40 the House will make say $25, and the girl, Approx. $15. If she offers a NHJ that is usually + $50 so the girl makes $65 rather than $15. Considering that the original $15 is assessable for tax and the $50 tip for the NHJ is not, the chance of being refused entirely is modest.

And if the girl is Asian it's a fair bet that her calculating ability is twice as good as yours.

[Candy1234]

wow most of the places i goto ask for $150 for FS
I see, which places? Anything more than $100 then I would rather go the brothel. Don’t want to sound cheap but there’s heaps of hot girls at the brothel at that $150. Enjoying the chase at RnT but need to be wise with our hard earned coins.

[stupidpunt]

Just present the money at the beginning

[xse3n3rgy]

It is worth considering the numbers. If you book for 30 minutes at say $40 the House will make say $25, and the girl, Approx. $15. If she offers a NHJ that is usually + $50 so the girl makes $65 rather than $15. Considering that the original $15 is assessable for tax and the $50 tip for the NHJ is not, the chance of being refused entirely is modest.

And if the girl is Asian it's a fair bet that her calculating ability is twice as good as yours.

LOL never thought about their maths skills but makes a lot of sense. Maybe we should get them do do our tax returns

[cuteguy]

Seems to vary between ML, I’ve been asked anywhere between $50 upto $250 for FS from an ML.

It's the young (in their 20's) pretty MLs usually Thai that are generally asking over $150 for part 3.

[footboy2012]

My approach to asking is to put a $50 on the table as i lie down. If they are legit they might act surprised and will give the money back, if not then you're on

this is a solid strategy and I can confirm it works!

[cuteguy]

My approach to asking is to put a $50 on the table as i lie down. If they are legit they might act surprised and will give the money back, if not then you're on

Did any MLs assume you were just being generous with your tip?

[Candy1234]

Question: how would you negotiate the price for FS when the girl is asking for more than what you are willing to pay?

Example
ML: $200 FS ok?
Punter: yeh… narh, 100 dollars good enough

[cuteguy]

Question: how would you negotiate the price for FS when the girl is asking for more than what you are willing to pay?

Example
ML: $200 FS ok?
Punter: yeh… narh, 100 dollars good enough

It comes down to who will budge in the end. If a ML has had a bad day she will probably drop her price just to get some cash. However, if she is too proud because guys have previously given her $200 it may be difficult to negotiate with this girl. In the end, don't be a pussy and agree to everything.

[woods23]

Question: how would you negotiate the price for FS when the girl is asking for more than what you are willing to pay?

Example
ML: $200 FS ok?
Punter: yeh… narh, 100 dollars good enough

This a tough one once she offer the price.

First sight very important i think.....dont look like sucker or be desperate. Makes her feel comfortable and relax. Don't rush to ask for fs....timing it good she probably won't charge u too much or let you fck her first before the negotiate

[Candy1234]

It comes down to who will budge in the end. If a ML has had a bad day she will probably drop her price just to get some cash. However, if she is too proud because guys have previously given her $200 it may be difficult to negotiate with this girl. In the end, don't be a pussy and agree to everything.

True that… but how would counter attack her? I was thinking like bargaining at the markets.

[EYA06072021]

Normally how much you guys pay for cof?

[cuteguy]

Normally how much you guys pay for cof?

That's a difficult question to answer because it's rare to find a ML who is willing to do COF.

[GoldfishMan]

That's a difficult question to answer because it's rare to find a ML who is willing to do COF.
Rare on both WL and ML bro. It's because they don't want their make-up ruined.

[itoko]

Especially at a RnT joint since most don't have showers and putting the make up on so CoF is hard to find outside brothels and privates.

[EYA06072021]

Is $350 for COF too much? Or reasonable?

[cuteguy]

Is $350 for COF too much? Or reasonable?

No wonder girls are raising their private rates if guys are offering $350 just for COF. Start low mate and be a hustler. If a girl wants the money she will accept a reasonable offer from you. $350 can get you FS plus change at a FS shop.

I understand many guys have been locked up during lockdown and saving their dollars. Please consider your fellow punters interests too. You will set a precedent so then next time a guy asks she will say that amount. We can't go spending large amounts. We need to follow standard rates here.

[Candy1234]

just smile and thank them and ask nicely.

I do the opposite, don’t ask at all. You know why they’re working there and they know why you come. The other thing different is the cost. I don’t think any of the girls like massaging someone for the whole duration of the booking, the tip is the real money not the cut of the massage fee.

[Sher1888]

Depends if they like you, be confident and upfront. I have gone beyond part 3 and some stuff were free.

[EYA06072021]

I do the opposite, don’t ask at all. You know why they’re working there and they know why you come. The other thing different is the cost. I don’t think any of the girls like massaging someone for the whole duration of the booking, the tip is the real money not the cut of the massage fee.
True but your attitude somehow affects your experiences.

[cuteguy]

I do the opposite, don’t ask at all. You know why they’re working there and they know why you come. The other thing different is the cost. I don’t think any of the girls like massaging someone for the whole duration of the booking, the tip is the real money not the cut of the massage fee.

If the girl does all the work (providing massage), she will receive $25 -30 out of fee of $65 or $70. You can see why the girl wants the $50 tip and some are willing to provide even more service (such as FS) for extra cash.

I don't believe MLs will provide part 3 and beyond for free. They will always want money in return.

[Candy1234]

True but your attitude somehow affects your experiences.

Yeh man, be kind and friendly would be a good start, just saying no need to worry to ask if you going to get the extra or not, you will get extra just on different level depending how much she like your appearance, yes I believe people do judge on looks first, then that personality stuff kicks in. Works both ways. Of course can’t forget the money money money.

If the girl doesn’t give one at least a HJ then that person must have some bigger issue going for him.

[EYA06072021]

No wonder girls are raising their private rates if guys are offering $350 just for COF. Start low mate and be a hustler. If a girl wants the money she will accept a reasonable offer from you. $350 can get you FS plus change at a FS shop.

I understand many guys have been locked up during lockdown and saving their dollars. Please consider your fellow punters interests too. You will set a precedent so then next time a guy asks she will say that amount. We can't go spending large amounts. We need to follow standard rates here.
Sent up to $350 but not said “yes” yet :grimace: . That’s not the thing she usually does.

[asiafever]

If the girl does all the work (providing massage), she will receive $25 -30 out of fee of $65 or $70. You can see why the girl wants the $50 tip and some are willing to provide even more service (such as FS) for extra cash.

I don't believe MLs will provide part 3 and beyond for free. They will always want money in return.

You mean, you don't believe all the sex god punters on here who not only claim to get FS for free, but the girls actually want to pay them for the privilege after receiving 29 orgasms in 10 minutes ??? Where is your faith inngellow man???

[jedibear]

I never ask. I just wait for them to offer what is comfortable for them...

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[Koala69]

I don’t really do RNT anymore but have done plenty, I have to disagree with you man.

I always asked reception so they could point me in the right direction and often ask the girl straight out right away because I liked starting with Part 3 and finishing with Part 1

Angels touch Riverwood is a free tip for anyone out that way.

The rules

1. Always say you have been there before even if you have not.
2.You saw the thai girl last time but can’t remember her name.
3. Even tell them you have seen them before and are disappointed they don’t remember you.
4. Tell the boss lady you a regular at their competitor and want to try a new place and you love girls that do extras.

First time I went to summers told her #4 everyone was running around to accommodate me got an awesome room refreshments and FS.

have you had any luck or tried with Tina? genuinely curious to know

[DDT]

I just ask nicely, it's like a lottery, some time I win some time I lose.:smile:

[GoldfishMan]

have you had any luck or tried with Tina? genuinely curious to know
If you're asking about Tina from Summerville, I had her in another shop she was part timing. I got as far as DATY. FS was a bridge too far for me in terms of $$$.

FMD, she's one hottie. Legs for days, firm round butt that made the scene even more memorable when doing DATY in mish position. The cleft made by her round moons, her long slim legs hanging over, and the sweeeet smell of her pussy due to her daily pad was spell binding. I could've cum just from eating out that fresh uni pussy if I wanted to... And oh boy, did she react like hell in DATY! Her's was a young pussy that would "suck" on your chin as you DATY. Only young girls can do this, I noticed. FMD she's hot bro!

[TheManboy]

The most foolproof tell would be looking for after reports and reviews here for the shop

[jaquedm1307]

Many legit shops only appear to provide landline numbers for contact as opposed to mobile. Checking those mobile numbers in WeChat - legit shop it will often says something like 'number doesn't exist' but if it does & a profile comes up can often provide you with shop intel - rosters / rates and photos of girls
WeChat you can then have a tactfully progressive conversation with reception about the extras they offer (ML variable). Couldn't imagine punting without WeChat

[Fred Flintstone]

I always wondered when a particular girl gets popular, would the other girls be thinking ...... what is she doing differently to us?
Yes all the time. Doesn’t take long for the other girls and the owner to work out which ML is offering more than standard massage, particularly in a semi legit shop. After one ML got sacked for proving too many extras, they discovered a mountain of used condoms behind the cupboard.

[spir55]

It depends on the ML and shop location. the chatswood surrounding area I have negotiated the service before starting. mind you the ML looked to be 30+ in age. If I don't negotiate before the massage starts, I leave my arms dangling from the side of the table and if the ML rubs her leg on my arm or places her love purse on my elbow, then I would get an idea what extras to ask. Generally, it would take a number of massage visit before a ML would give extras.