Safe word with WL/MLs

[StiFFFy]

G'day Punters,
Anyone ever tried using a safe word while you punt? Howd you go about agreeing to it?
For some context, spent 15 min of first ever punt explaining the concept to a WL with poor English due to being a greedy StiFFF (mainly biting/too rough) and don't want to waste time and money again doing it, but at the same time don't want to be accused of rape.
Cheers

[rooter]

The best safe word is Stiffy. But nor stylised with 3 CAP Fs, that's too weird.

[Labia Vortex]

G'day Punters,
Anyone ever tried using a safe word while you punt? Howd you go about agreeing to it?
For some context, spent 15 min of first ever punt explaining the concept to a WL with poor English due to being a greedy StiFFF (mainly biting/too rough) and don't want to waste time and money again doing it, but at the same time don't want to be accused of rape.
Cheers
Safe words are usually associated with BDSM....Master and Submissive...in case things get out of hand

[DigBick]

Best safe word is ‘harder’

[Kiryu0]

Safe word can be anything. Just gotta be in their language

[local]

G'day Punters,
Anyone ever tried using a safe word while you punt? Howd you go about agreeing to it?
For some context, spent 15 min of first ever punt explaining the concept to a WL with poor English due to being a greedy StiFFF (mainly biting/too rough) and don't want to waste time and money again doing it, but at the same time don't want to be accused of rape.
Cheers

There is a simple LEGAL word in use, ALL will understand.

"NO"

[juscruisin58]

There is a simple LEGAL word in use, ALL will understand.

"NO"

Well said..........

[kingqxxx]

I'm not into BDSM (never tried). But in that world no can mean yes.

[juscruisin58]

I'm not into BDSM (never tried). But in that world no can mean yes.

If you never tried, how would you know.?
No means no

[cryptex]

There is a simple LEGAL word in use, ALL will understand.

"NO"

Simple internationally understood word. Good simple advice.

[floppydick]

I'm not into BDSM (never tried). But in that world no can mean yes.

Wrong.

NO always means NO. by arguing that point, you should be ashamed of yourself.

[Vader]

Wrong.

NO always means NO. by arguing that point, you should be ashamed of yourself.

In BDSM no is quite often used and most dominatrix will keep going, that is why a safe word is used. However all this is consensual and discussed prior.

[rooter]

Vanilla sex and BDSM are two different worlds.
In the normal/vanilla world which includes dating, casual sex, relationships, marriage, punting etc then its very simple No means No and you don't need a safe word.
But the BDSM world is different. Saying "No", "Stop", etc can be part of the game/play, so you need a safe word like "Red" "Mercy" etc to know you really want to stop.
Just to repeat the obvious, in punting no really does mean no, stop really does mean stop. Don't be an arsehole and don't be a rapist. You will do 10 years in prison.

[kingqxxx]

Wrong.

NO always means NO. by arguing that point, you should be ashamed of yourself.

I am not saying this is how things should have or could have. I am just calling the world as it is. Where in my last statement did I disagree 'no means no'? Read it again and tell me mate. And where exactly in my statement did I 'argue'? Do not put words in my mouth floppydick.

You can denounce the practice of using safe word in the context of BSDM because <fill in your reason> and I will respect your view. I may even agree with you. But there was nothing wrong with my last statement. It is factually correct.

[B0nkers]

How about just using the word STOP?

[local]

How about just using the word STOP?

The word STOP is actually not that commonly understood. Consider its synonyms such as HALT is possibly more used, but it sounds different.

Think of NO in multiple languages and is much more practical. Also even asian language usage it would be much more known and used.

[ch4nkei]

Why would you need a safe word for normal sex

[GoldfishMan]

G'day Punters,
Anyone ever tried using a safe word while you punt? Howd you go about agreeing to it?
For some context, spent 15 min of first ever punt explaining the concept to a WL with poor English due to being a greedy StiFFF (mainly biting/too rough) and don't want to waste time and money again doing it, but at the same time don't want to be accused of rape.
Cheers
Why would you want to do that with a girl who doesn't even fully comprehend English? You can't even communicate clearly to begin with. It'd be like a duck explaining how to paddle up a stream to a chicken.

Recipe for disaster, I reckon.

[Vader]

Why would you need a safe word for normal sex

What is normal sex?

[Double_Adapter]

Interesting thread but I think some of the lads are missing the point of Mr Stiffy’s post. He’s simply asking how do you bring up the subject or explain the concept to a woman.

When it comes to sex play the spectrum is wide ranging from teasing and withholding, to soft, sensual, passionate sex, to hot, steamy, intense, rough sex to more aggressive forms of play in BDSM. Even in BDSM there are varying levels of intensity.

A visual indicator as to whether the woman might engage in more intense and rougher sex is to look for bruising around ankles, wrists, arms, arse, breasts, neck, hickeys or love bites etc etc Some women do like dirty talk, being pinned down, dominated, grabbed, spanked, arse slapped, hair pulled, light choking, blind folded, soft biting etc as it increases the release of dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and endorphins - which can be quite addictive.

As Mr Rooter correctly pointed out if there’s no consent to the act then legally it’s deemed a criminal offence ranging from sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault to rape etc. The caveat might be actus reus and mens rea. Either way always ask for consent even if it was provided previously.

A great topic for discussion gents.

[GoldfishMan]

Interesting thread but I think some of the lads are missing the point of Mr Stiffy’s post. He’s simply asking how do you bring up the subject or explain the concept to a woman.

When it comes to sex play the spectrum is wide ranging from teasing and withholding, to soft, sensual, passionate sex, to hot, steamy, intense, rough sex to more aggressive forms of play in BDSM. Even in BDSM there are varying levels of intensity.

A visual indicator as to whether the woman might engage in more intense and rougher sex is to look for bruising around ankles, wrists, arms, arse, breasts, neck, hickeys or love bites etc etc Some women do like dirty talk, being pinned down, dominated, grabbed, spanked, arse slapped, hair pulled, light choking, blind folded, soft biting etc as it increases the release of dopamine, serotonin, oxytocin, and endorphins - which can be quite addictive.

As Mr Rooter correctly pointed out if there’s no consent to the act then legally it’s deemed a criminal offence ranging from sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault to rape etc. The caveat might be actus reus and mens rea. Either way always ask for consent even if it was provided previously.

A great topic for discussion gents.
Great, now all you have to do is translate all that to Chinese / Korean / Japanese / Thai / Vietnamese / Laotian etc and pray that the translator got it all right.

[warwick1]

Being a "Double Adapter" Zoo, do these prolific over the the top posts of yours, with your extensive google research, relate to your encounters with the males you have relations with as well...cheers

[StiFFFy]

How about just using the word STOP?




The word STOP is actually not that commonly understood. Consider its synonyms such as HALT is possibly more used, but it sounds different.

Think of NO in multiple languages and is much more practical. Also even asian language usage it would be much more known and used.

If you're using stop/no during a BDSM session, you're doing it wrong. For example, enacting a rape fantasy with your partner would require a different word. As for other languages, it's a great idea.


What is normal sex?

Probably mish male with female where neither enjoys it?

[Vader]

If you're using stop/no during a BDSM session, you're doing it wrong. For example, enacting a rape fantasy with your partner would require a different word. As for other languages, it's a great idea.



Probably mish male with female where neither enjoys it?

If neither enjoys it zoo it is time to move on. Normal to me is what all you guys expect from a hooker. After all girls are girls and boys are boys.

[vnflame]

The safe word is “bye”

[cumquat]

Deadpan, Try using SIBON …

[local]

Deadpan, Try using SIBON …

maybe ZOOILLA is more topical ?

[Double_Adapter]

Being a "Double Adapter" Zoo, do these prolific over the the top posts of yours, with your extensive google research, relate to your encounters with the males you have relations with as well...cheers

Hey Mr Zoowick1 If you’re keen for some man on man action I can hook you up with a dude who’s heavily into fish tanks and coral sea life; it should be right down your alley.

[warwick1]

Hey Mr Zoowick1 If you’re keen for some man on man action I can hook you up with a dude who’s heavily into fish tanks and coral sea life; it should be right down your alley.

You really show your immaturity in your replies, one bit of advice if you and your clones want to bullshit you really need a good memory because you are getting caught out, just come clean your are Zoozilla...cheers little man

[GoldfishMan]

You really show your immaturity in your replies, one bit of advice if you and your clones want to bullshit you really need a good memory because you are getting caught out, just come clean your are Zoozilla...cheers little man
lol caught out indeed. It’s hilarious!

[StiFFFy]

If neither enjoys it zoo it is time to move on. Normal to me is what all you guys expect from a hooker. After all girls are girls and boys are boys.
maybe ZOOILLA is more topical ?
You really show your immaturity in your replies, one bit of advice if you and your clones want to bullshit you really need a good memory because you are getting caught out, just come clean your are Zoozilla...cheers little manCan you guys kindly fk off with flaming newcomers and accusing them of being someone else pls?
Every. God. Dammed. Time someone tries to start an intelligent conversation, there's you fkn lot acting like monkeys and throwing shit at everyone to see what sticks.
All I wanted was an opinion of other punters on the subject; instead you have me Raging at you for acting like primary school children..
Mods pls lock thread.

[rooter]

Sibon is definitely Zoozilla and at least 50 other IDs over the last 8 years.
Stiffy is a totally different guy.
Classic case of mistaken identity.
He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time ;)

[asiafever]

An honest answer? Here it is.

These girls are there for basic service. Covered blow job, covered sex, MAYBE kissing. Everything else is on a case by case basis and may cost extra.

First time with a girl you don't do anything that needs a "safe" word, especially if there is a language barrier, unless it has been expressly discussed and agreed to first. The girl doesn't know you, has probably had numerous guys try all sorts of shit with her that she is not up for, and unless she has told you/advertised she is in to that stuff then you don't just jump in to it.

In many cases if a brothel owner found out you were biting and being rough with a girl they would be less than impressed, and I'm understating quite a bit. You need to suss that stuff out BEFORE you do it.

[GoldfishMan]

An honest answer? Here it is.

These girls are there for basic service. Covered blow job, covered sex, MAYBE kissing. Everything else is on a case by case basis and may cost extra.

First time with a girl you don't do anything that needs a "safe" word, especially if there is a language barrier, unless it has been expressly discussed and agreed to first. The girl doesn't know you, has probably had numerous guys try all sorts of shit with her that she is not up for, and unless she has told you/advertised she is in to that stuff then you don't just jump in to it.

In many cases if a brothel owner found out you were biting and being rough with a girl they would be less than impressed, and I'm understating quite a bit. You need to suss that stuff out BEFORE you do it.

You know, one of the main reasons most brothels in Japan do not allow foreigners or "gaijin" customers is exactly because of the language barrier.

The fuckers simply cannot understand the rules, or understand the girl when she tries to tell them that something they're doing is not allowed.

Have a look at this article:
https://funnyjapanproject.com/why-japanese-brothels-dont-accept-foreigners/

[cumquat]

Sibon is definitely Zoozilla and at least 50 other IDs over the last 8 years.
Stiffy is a totally different guy.
Classic case of mistaken identity.
He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time ;)

Lmfao lmao lol .. .

[GoldfishMan]

Sibon is definitely Zoozilla and at least 50 other IDs over the last 8 years.
Stiffy is a totally different guy.
Classic case of mistaken identity.
He was just at the wrong place at the wrong time ;)

Aha! I was very dubious about Stiffy's identity. He does write a lot like Zoo, but very different use of language if you look closely.

DA, Sib, Zoo, etc, on the other hand all have the same writing style, same language use and inevitably will talk about photography at some point!

[Oosuki]

I've always thought safe words were associated with bdsm play as a way to let the other person know that things are getting out of hand

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[solidsnake]

DA, Sib, Zoo, etc, on the other hand all have the same writing style, same language use and inevitably will talk about photography at some point!

And fish, and awkward fantasies like he’s trying to get published in penthouse forum…