Definitive List : FS shops that go the extra mile

[bradpitt]

This thread first post would be a definitive and up to date list of Brisbane shops that have reports, threads which have included FS.

Shop A, suburb - link to report forum discussion
Shop B, suburb - link to report forum discussion

This would mean that a punter would have visited and reported. If the shop has changed then the discussion would take place in the original thread.

[Ken Tuckyfriedchicken]

There are a few exceptions, but with most shops its the girl not the shop. No shop owner but the most brazen wants their shop known as a knock shop.

[zakthekat]

This thread first post would be a definitive and up to date list of Brisbane shops that have reports, threads which have included FS.

Shop A, suburb - link to report forum discussion
Shop B, suburb - link to report forum discussion

This would mean that a punter would have visited and reported. If the shop has changed then the discussion would take place in the original thread.

Yeah, nah. Go look at our laws and then reconsider this.

[PinayPounder]

Excellent idea sir! I look forward to reading your contributions. I assume you have an extensive list already to go! Oooh the ladies won't know what pounds (pun intended) them. Ie, me.

[It Hurts When IP]

Nice try QPS 👮*♂️

[bradpitt]

the list is just a summary from what is already posted in the Forum. so, if you look at a thread(s) the info is already there. my suggestion is to curate it and put it at the top of the page.

[Massageloverbris]

Police monitor this forum all the time it’s not the punter who gets in the shit it’s no really the owner of shop who gets in the shit with a small fine it’s the girls who will only get a fine but now the character test has changed for visas if a girl gets caught even if no conviction recorded and just fine the student visa or work hol visa is cancelled on character grounds ..

[miata]

Police monitor this forum all the time it’s not the punter who gets in the shit it’s no really the owner of shop who gets in the shit with a small fine it’s the girls who will only get a fine but now the character test has changed for visas if a girl gets caught even if no conviction recorded and just fine the student visa or work hol visa is cancelled on character grounds ..

Had to read it multiple times and now my head is hurting. Punctuation pleeeeze!

[Yellow Fever]

There are a few exceptions, but with most shops its the girl not the shop. No shop owner but the most brazen wants their shop known as a knock shop.

I agree, brazen being the keyword?
I can’t see the latest knock shop lasting too long….reckon there could be a couple of resultant deportations too?

[carlco777]

Police monitor this forum all the time it’s not the punter who gets in the shit it’s no really the owner of shop who gets in the shit with a small fine it’s the girls who will only get a fine but now the character test has changed for visas if a girl gets caught even if no conviction recorded and just fine the student visa or work hol visa is cancelled on character grounds ..

the ML/WL know what they are in for when they decide to do the job. no one else to blame.

[Yellow Fever]

the ML/WL know what they are in for when they decide to do the job. no one else to blame.

There’s a big difference between ML & WL.
A few WL’s are doing the rounds, at multiple popular shops, atm.
I reckon there’s gunna be a few raids on the horizon?
WL’s don’t care if ML’s get caught out…..that’s collateral damage!!
Winners and losers?

[RLC]

Pretty much all the FS shops I have got to rack up a few extra miles to get to.

[bradpitt]

I agree, brazen being the keyword?
I can’t see the latest knock shop lasting too long….reckon there could be a couple of resultant deportations too?

that's exactly what I am trying to capture. what is the latest knock shop?

[Jamesyouare]

Police monitor this forum all the time it’s not the punter who gets in the shit it’s no really the owner of shop who gets in the shit with a small fine it’s the girls who will only get a fine but now the character test has changed for visas if a girl gets caught even if no conviction recorded and just fine the student visa or work hol visa is cancelled on character grounds ..
So….we all make choices and I’ve got zero sympathy but the concept of a list is too far - share without the code snd shops should be wise enough to know how to manage police / nobody causing major harm here….

I am imagining a seasoned copper trawling this trying their best hence why I understand some discretion however it’s about reviews and sharing where logical else this soap opera will die off

A list request is probably not a cop but a lazy angry man jilted by boilers - as stated it’s not shops but individuals and in this market it’s about the effort so I doubt anyone going to spill their time and energy

[Yellow Fever]

that's exactly what I am trying to capture. what is the latest knock shop?

Hush, enough clues have already been gifted, on other threads…just gotta put the pieces together?

Better value; start a thread of where not to visit…..share bad experiences, on the forum, not good ones.
This way, all of us mug punters save time, and money.
As already stated, many times, extras are at the dissection of the ML/WL…..not a given right to all clients who frequent, not even at a knock shop.

On a tangent, I’ve stumbled across knock shops that employ some of the very best masseuses who refuse to offer even a HJ. Why…..well, all types of client requirements need to be catered for. Even at a knock shop, nothing is a guaranteed….if your sole interest is purely FS?

[carlco777]

Police monitor this forum all the time it’s not the punter who gets in the shit it’s no really the owner of shop who gets in the shit with a small fine it’s the girls who will only get a fine but now the character test has changed for visas if a girl gets caught even if no conviction recorded and just fine the student visa or work hol visa is cancelled on character grounds ..


why do you think police would monitor this forum ? i don't think there is even a task force set up for such things. anything that they read in here is just hearsay. imagine if they have to keep running around every time someone in here say somethng that 'might be worth investigating'. you don't think they are not afraid of going on some wild goose chase ?

[harry444]

I don't think police need info on here to when 90% of shops perform illegal activities.

[RLC]

I don't think police need info on here to when 90% of shops perform illegal activities.

I reckon they could go to pretty much any shop and find condoms, semen stained towels/tissues/sheets and large amounts of cash that far exceed the days recorded returns.

[Ken Tuckyfriedchicken]

why do you think police would monitor this forum ? i don't think there is even a task force set up for such things. anything that they read in here is just hearsay. imagine if they have to keep running around every time someone in here say somethng that 'might be worth investigating'. you don't think they are not afraid of going on some wild goose chase ?


I don't think police need info on here to when 90% of shops perform illegal activities.


I reckon they could go to pretty much any shop and find condoms, semen stained towels/tissues/sheets and large amounts of cash that far exceed the days recorded returns.

We shouldn’t have to go through this all the time....but here we are.

The laws are dogshit. The police tend to look the other way at handies etc......but if they get a public complaint or have been tasked with investigating, they have to follow up. Coming on here here helps iF and its a big IF the shop complained against has info handy. Saves sending an obvious undercover cop to the shop.

Police, if the complaint is of sufficient force, will visit premises, check visa paperwork and talk to management. If evidence can be obtained or walks into their lap with an idiot punter talking to them after leaving shop, criminal charges can and have been laid.

The court throws a $500 fine after the sob stories are told to the court. Management get a $2000 or less fine and told to behave. Shops have been shut and mls deported if they are unlucky, are idiots or place their shop too close to a school, childcare centre or wowser. Crackdowns can and do happen from time to time. When that happens the stupid here shit themselves and say they are only seeing privates from now on.

[carlco777]

We shouldn’t have to go through this all the time....but here we are.

The laws are dogshit. The police tend to look the other way at handies etc......but if they get a public complaint or have been tasked with investigating, they have to follow up. Coming on here here helps iF and its a big IF the shop complained against has info handy. Saves sending an obvious undercover cop to the shop.

Police, if the complaint is of sufficient force, will visit premises, check visa paperwork and talk to management. If evidence can be obtained or walks into their lap with an idiot punter talking to them after leaving shop, criminal charges can and have been laid.

The court throws a $500 fine after the sob stories are told to the court. Management get a $2000 or less fine and told to behave. Shops have been shut and mls deported if they are unlucky, are idiots or place their shop too close to a school, childcare centre or wowser. Crackdowns can and do happen from time to time. When that happens the stupid here shit themselves and say they are only seeing privates from now on.

what you say sounds reasonable and logical, but things don't always happen the way you say. for the police to prosecute anyone, they need to have proof. they can't just show up at the massage shop and start arresting everyone. so if you happen to be there when they conduct a raid, it does not automatically mean you got done. if you were there for just an innocent massage, no way can they prosecute you. massages are not illegal. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THEY KNOW OR WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS, IT IS WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVE. so for them to issue you a summons, you must admit what you were there for and who you asked for the service. the other person must also have admitted that she accepted a sum of money from you for the said service. they must have both of these to proceed with any kind of prosecution. of course, this is harder to obtain than what you think, so what they do is they will coerce and threaten you. for example, they will ask you if the address on your licence is current and then say they will ask you questions in the next few days at your place of residence. most people don't want that happening for fear of embarrassment in front of family members or share mates so they readily accept and admit their mistakes, and hopefully it is only a fine, pay the money and get on with their lives.

Massage shops are not illegal, otherwise there wouldn't be any around. BUT the activities conducted within the premises might be illegal. massages by themselves are not illegal, but if sexual services are being offered, IN QLD YOU WILL NEED A LICENCE FOR THAT ( BROTHELS EXIST BECAUSE THEY HAVE LICENCE TO CONDUCT SEXUAL ACTIVITIES ON THEIR PREMISES, MASSAGE PARLOURS DON'T HAVE SUCH LICENCES ). so if there is a raid, the ones in trouble are usually the massage ladies, cos the ladies are the ones providing the services, NOT THE MASSAGE PARLOUR ( unless the massage parlour itself has advertised that you can get sexaul services there ). make no mistake. the law is very very technical. so of course during the raid, the girls have to provide ID and the relevant visas, work visa or resident visa or .... whatever it is. most of the raids that we hear of being conducted, it is because someone complained that the massage parlour is using underaged girls, or girls who got no work visas etc etc The guy who filed the complaint is usually a previous customer who got a bad service, or is angry with the massage girl for whatever reason, or could simply be a competitor. who knows ?

if the police acts against the massage parlours, they have to prove the shop knew about the activities that their girls provide. only then can the shop be fined. sure, the shop won't admit any knowledge of such. then the police will say, okay, we will be dropping in to your shop every day or every few days to check on you guys. this of course is bad for business, and massage girls will stop wanting to work there, customers won't be coming in for fear of raids or getting involved ....... so it is easier admitting to the charge and paying the fine.

[Eggs.Fertiliser]

if the police acts against the massage parlours, they have to prove the shop knew about the activities that their girls provide. only then can the shop be fined. sure, the shop won't admit any knowledge of such. then the police will say, okay, we will be dropping in to your shop every day or every few days to check on you guys. this of course is bad for business, and massage girls will stop wanting to work there, customers won't be coming in for fear of raids or getting involved ....... so it is easier admitting to the charge and paying the fine.

Or they move on to open shop at a new location.

Also can a HJ or BJ be considered sexual service? men can get erected to shoot even from massage right?

[harry444]

Sorry, I got lost after "what you say sounds reasonable".
No, actually clarified a lot.

[alexchinn]

what you say sounds reasonable and logical, but things don't always happen the way you say. for the police to prosecute anyone, they need to have proof. they can't just show up at the massage shop and start arresting everyone. so if you happen to be there when they conduct a raid, it does not automatically mean you got done. if you were there for just an innocent massage, no way can they prosecute you. massages are not illegal. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THEY KNOW OR WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS, IT IS WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVE. so for them to issue you a summons, you must admit what you were there for and who you asked for the service. the other person must also have admitted that she accepted a sum of money from you for the said service. they must have both of these to proceed with any kind of prosecution. of course, this is harder to obtain than what you think, so what they do is they will coerce and threaten you. for example, they will ask you if the address on your licence is current and then say they will ask you questions in the next few days at your place of residence. most people don't want that happening for fear of embarrassment in front of family members or share mates so they readily accept and admit their mistakes, and hopefully it is only a fine, pay the money and get on with their lives.


if the police acts against the massage parlours, they have to prove the shop knew about the activities that their girls provide. only then can the shop be fined. sure, the shop won't admit any knowledge of such. then the police will say, okay, we will be dropping in to your shop every day or every few days to check on you guys. this of course is bad for business, and massage girls will stop wanting to work there, customers won't be coming in for fear of raids or getting involved ....... so it is easier admitting to the charge and paying the fine.


thank you for your very insightful explanation.

[Neox]

what you say sounds reasonable and logical, .........

Very insightful. Never knew all that lol

[fi1teredglue]

Or they move on to open shop at a new location.

Also can a HJ or BJ be considered sexual service? men can get erected to shoot even from massage right?

what is the point of moving to a new location and doing the same thing, especially when your name is on the police record, and if you get caught, you are a repeat offender and face heavier fines and possibly jail ?

you move to a new location, you sign a new lease for 6 months or so ... can you be sure you can make the money back before getting done again ?

of course a HJ or BJ is considered sexual service, especially they touch/massage your sex organ ... nice question.

[exflux]

some of the raids are conducted because the owner might have had a record for exploitation of women

[popeye96]

what you say sounds reasonable and logical, but things don't always happen the way you say. for the police to prosecute anyone, they need to have proof. they can't just show up at the massage shop and start arresting everyone. so if you happen to be there when they conduct a raid, it does not automatically mean you got done. if you were there for just an innocent massage, no way can they prosecute you. massages are not illegal. IT DOES NOT MATTER WHAT THEY KNOW OR WHAT EVERYONE KNOWS, IT IS WHAT THEY ARE ABLE TO PROVE. so for them to issue you a summons, you must admit what you were there for and who you asked for the service. the other person must also have admitted that she accepted a sum of money from you for the said service. they must have both of these to proceed with any kind of prosecution. of course, this is harder to obtain than what you think, so what they do is they will coerce and threaten you. for example, they will ask you if the address on your licence is current and then say they will ask you questions in the next few days at your place of residence. most people don't want that happening for fear of embarrassment in front of family members or share mates so they readily accept and admit their mistakes, and hopefully it is only a fine, pay the money and get on with their lives.

Massage shops are not illegal, otherwise there wouldn't be any around. BUT the activities conducted within the premises might be illegal. massages by themselves are not illegal, but if sexual services are being offered, IN QLD YOU WILL NEED A LICENCE FOR THAT ( BROTHELS EXIST BECAUSE THEY HAVE LICENCE TO CONDUCT SEXUAL ACTIVITIES ON THEIR PREMISES, MASSAGE PARLOURS DON'T HAVE SUCH LICENCES ). so if there is a raid, the ones in trouble are usually the massage ladies, cos the ladies are the ones providing the services, NOT THE MASSAGE PARLOUR ( unless the massage parlour itself has advertised that you can get sexaul services there ). make no mistake. the law is very very technical. so of course during the raid, the girls have to provide ID and the relevant visas, work visa or resident visa or .... whatever it is. most of the raids that we hear of being conducted, it is because someone complained that the massage parlour is using underaged girls, or girls who got no work visas etc etc The guy who filed the complaint is usually a previous customer who got a bad service, or is angry with the massage girl for whatever reason, or could simply be a competitor. who knows ?

if the police acts against the massage parlours, they have to prove the shop knew about the activities that their girls provide. only then can the shop be fined. sure, the shop won't admit any knowledge of such. then the police will say, okay, we will be dropping in to your shop every day or every few days to check on you guys. this of course is bad for business, and massage girls will stop wanting to work there, customers won't be coming in for fear of raids or getting involved ....... so it is easier admitting to the charge and paying the fine.

I'm not going into all the other stuff you've written, but you can actually be charged just for being on the premises of an illegal brothel, unless you have a valid reason. You don't need to be caught in the act. The police don't need proof to charge you, that is up to the prosecutor in court. Being there just for a standard massage is not considered a valid reason.

[Eggs.Fertiliser]

Noted, I'm a total newbie to this so do forgive my stupid questions.

It's not difficult for the police to figure out which shop/MLs provide sexual services right? But you still see massage shops like those everywhere, which means its kinda safe/relatively harmless for these transactions even though they are illegal.

Same for the WLs advertised on E&B or Scarlet Blue, many of them don't even have valid working visa/pay tax, and earn shit tons of money off horny blokes

[exflux]

I'm not going into all the other stuff you've written, but you can actually be charged just for being on the premises of an illegal brothel, unless you have a valid reason. You don't need to be caught in the act. The police don't need proof to charge you, that is up to the prosecutor in court. Being there just for a standard massage is not considered a valid reason.

hmm. i don't think that is accurate. you can't really be charged for being on the premises of an illegal brothel. how do you know that it is illegal ? when you go into a pub, or a restaurant, do you ever check if they have a licence to operate as such ? i don't think anyone does. also, i have not heard of anyone getting charged just for being on the premises of an illegal brothel.

there are a lot of readers in here. can anyone tell me if they have ever been charged for that ?

[Ace01]

obviously if you are caught in the act- no contest; if you reasonably have knowledge of services being offered and you accepted it anyway- well dont forget it's illegal to offer and illegal to accept - and what happens if you phone is requested to be hand over for messages to be checked or that the ML/WL messages with you indicated clear knowledge of illegal activities notwithstanding you may have deleted the message - Yes they do require proof but might not be as hard as you think...

[harry444]

Another case of prosecuting a crime where there is no victim.

[ecchi.gaijin]

Popeye is correct. Merely being on the premises (without a valid reason) of an illegal brothel is expressly a crime.

Not sure about the legit massage defense being valid or not though.

[ecchi.gaijin]

Before we get the usual dickwits arguing over shit they know nothing about.

"69 Offence of being in or entering or leaving prohibited
brothel
(1) A person must not be found in or entering or leaving a
prohibited brothel.
Maximum penalty—60 penalty units or 1 year’s
imprisonment.
(2) However, a person other than the owner or occupier of the
premises does not commit an offence if the person was in or
entering or leaving the premises for a lawful purpose.
(3) Also, the owner or occupier does not commit an offence if the
owner or occupier enters the premises under a court order."

[limbi8888]

The NSW Sex Industry
Sex work, running a sex industry business and being a sex worker are all legal in NSW—but only if they are done according to NSW laws and regulations.

Anyone over 18 may provide sexual services to a person over the age of consent in exchange for money, goods or favours.

‘Brothels’ or sex services premises are regulated by local councils, just like other businesses. Street sex work is lawful as long as it is not near or within view of a dwelling, school, church or hospital. A dwelling is any home or residence not attached to a shop or commercial premises.

https://swop.org.au/the-nsw-sex-industry#:~:text=Sex%20work%2C%20running%20a%20sex ,for%20money%2C%20goods%20or%20favours.

This might help abit

[ecchi.gaijin]

NSW law on a Qld thread? No help at all.

[carlco777]

Before we get the usual dickwits arguing over shit they know nothing about.

"69 Offence of being in or entering or leaving prohibited
brothel
(1) A person must not be found in or entering or leaving a
prohibited brothel.
Maximum penalty—60 penalty units or 1 year’s
imprisonment.
(2) However, a person other than the owner or occupier of the
premises does not commit an offence if the person was in or
entering or leaving the premises for a lawful purpose.
(3) Also, the owner or occupier does not commit an offence if the
owner or occupier enters the premises under a court order."

this part might be correct.

BUT !!!

like i mentioned earlier, make no mistake. the law is very very technical.
A person must not be found in or entering or leaving a "'prohibited brothel."'

how does one know that the brothel has been prohibited ? the law states that the courts or the police MUST have put a notice in the local papers ( thereby informing the general public ) naming the brothel and that it has been prohibited and ordered to cease its operations. ONLY THEN can the brothel be considered a '"prohibited brothel'"

ALSO ... note the word brothel. a brothel is NOT a massage shop. the law is very very technical. when you walk into a massage shop, signs and all saying it is a massage shop, in the eyes of the law, no way is this place a brothel. it DOES NOT MATTER what people know or what people think or what people assume.

i'm not going to waste my time explaining the law or the technical aspects of it in here. there is no benefit for me. as for the others, maybe they want to put the fear in people or maybe they themselves are cops and are trying to use scare tactics in here so as to make their jobs easier etc etc i don't know.

as always, happy punting.

[ecchi.gaijin]

this part might be correct.

BUT !!!

like i mentioned earlier, make no mistake. the law is very very technical.
A person must not be found in or entering or leaving a "'prohibited brothel."'

how does one know that the brothel has been prohibited ? the law states that the courts or the police MUST have put a notice in the local papers ( thereby informing the general public ) naming the brothel and that it has been prohibited and ordered to cease its operations. ONLY THEN can the brothel be considered a '"prohibited brothel'"

ALSO ... note the word brothel. a brothel is NOT a massage shop. the law is very very technical. when you walk into a massage shop, signs and all saying it is a massage shop, in the eyes of the law, no way is this place a brothel. it DOES NOT MATTER what people know or what people think or what people assume.

i'm not going to waste my time explaining the law or the technical aspects of it in here. there is no benefit for me. as for the others, maybe they want to put the fear in people or maybe they themselves are cops and are trying to use scare tactics in here so as to make their jobs easier etc etc i don't know.

as always, happy punting.

And you started off so well ....... ANY premises can be declared a prohibited brothel as long as the facts meet the criteria.

You aren't going to waste your time? Reword that to you aren't capable of it.

[ecchi.gaijin]

Once again, to save the inevitable bullshit replies and moronic claims about how well people understand the law. The previous quote was from the Prostitution Act. The following is from the Criminal Code

"http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/consol_act/cc189994/s229i.html

229I Persons found in places reasonably suspected of being used for prostitution etc.
(1) A person who, without reasonable excuse, is found in, or leaving after having been in, a place suspected on reasonable grounds of being used for the purposes of prostitution by 2 or more prostitutes commits a crime."

[fi1teredglue]

Once again, to save the inevitable bullshit replies and moronic claims about how well people understand the law. The previous quote was from the Prostitution Act. The following is from the Criminal Code

"http://classic.austlii.edu.au/au/legis/qld/consol_act/cc189994/s229i.html

229I Persons found in places reasonably suspected of being used for prostitution etc.
(1) A person who, without reasonable excuse, is found in, or leaving after having been in, a place suspected on reasonable grounds of being used for the purposes of prostitution by 2 or more prostitutes commits a crime."


your quote is from the Prostitution Act.

a massage shop is hardly a place where prostitutes gather. i don't think you are on the same page as carlco777 with regards to this debate. no wonder even though i see mr carlco777 is online, he does not even bother to say anything further in here.

[alexchinn]

i was present at the massage shops when they got raided. twice. two different locations. Acacia Ridge and most recently, Southport.

both times, i was asked what i was doing there. both times i said i was there for a massage, nothing else. not once did they ask for my name or to see my ID. both times they just told me to be on my way while they conducted their investigations.

[bradpitt]

this discussion about the law is making me think of:

2019 - bitcoin investment experts
2020 - when they became infectious disease experts
2021 - they became vaccination experts

and now Qld law experts.

[ecchi.gaijin]

I am just assuming that fi1teredglue is trolling as no one could be THAT stupid.

[StiffCompetition]

i was present at the massage shops when they got raided. twice. two different locations. Acacia Ridge and most recently, Southport.

both times, i was asked what i was doing there. both times i said i was there for a massage, nothing else. not once did they ask for my name or to see my ID. both times they just told me to be on my way while they conducted their investigations.

Do you consider yourself a lucky kind of guy? No offense, but perhaps I won't go to visit shops with you... :D

[alexchinn]

Do you consider yourself a lucky kind of guy? No offense, but perhaps I won't go to visit shops with you... :D

lucky ? untouchable maybe. lol. but i won't go visit shops with you. you might drag me down. it's probably all in the looks. some people can just get away with anything.

[carlco777]

untouchable. good movie.

[StiffCompetition]

lucky ? untouchable maybe. lol. but i won't go visit shops with you. you might drag me down. it's probably all in the looks. some people can just get away with anything.

Well, can't argue with that. lol

[exflux]

funny i was just about to type the same thing.

[exflux]

no, i mean about the movie.

[miiata]

your quote is from the Prostitution Act.

a massage shop is hardly a place where prostitutes gather. i don't think you are on the same page as carlco777 with regards to this debate. no wonder even though i see mr carlco777 is online, he does not even bother to say anything further in here.

what is the difference WL and ML ?

[miata]

what is the difference WL and ML ?

what is the difference between miiata and alexchinn ?

[miiata]

what is the difference between miata and alexchin ?

[miata]

what is the difference between miata and alexchin ?

the difference is that you're the fuckwit who resorted to trolling and have been found out