J Chika - waste of money

[Blackkkkkkk]

Look: 2.5/5 pretty average. Girl next door type. Photos on the website don't really describe her. What's the point.

Body: 1/5 quite chubby and bushy down there. She also has a big mole(?) on her butt

English: 0/5 almost non. She can say that she's from Tokyo but that's about it.

Service: 1/5 When I entered the room she said hi, then almost treated me like I wasn't there the whole time. She gave me a wash without any sensual touches or eye contacts, it was like someone washing meat/seafood for cooking. After that, she was like on mute the whole time.

Foreplay: 1/5. At one point, I thought she was falling asleep. Gave me some boring and methodical bbbj, nothing special. Menu says she offers rimming but I didn't ask, and she didn't care to ask either.

Sex: 1/5 Again, she was on mute and it was like fucking a sex toy. Not engaging, not even fake moans just dead silent. I could hear the drills next door louder than anything in the room.

Finished the session in 30 minutes, had a shower and left early.

Waste of money and would not return/recommend. Very disappointing.

[BlakeAmid]

Mate I saw her and walked right out.
Felt like a scam

[GINZA]

Hi, Mr Blackkkkkk bro. So sorry about your experience, please pm me I will give you compensation

Apologise again

Wilson

[chickenbrother]

You're lucky it was only a 30 mins session. My booking was one hour. Haven't got time to do the AR yet but 200% agree with OP.

[Durtle]

I agree, total waste of money

[Rav18]

Same experience with me as well. In the whole session she was looking somewhere else.

[BlakeAmid]

Talked to the dudes at the counter, them seemed so confused and they asked me to change to another wl.

Never trust those photos boys, you’ll be highly disappointed.

Especially in this case of Chika, I was actually, shocked when I met her.

[neighbourhood_lao_wang]

Btw; can you ask for a lineup before confirming?

since no one has answered this poor guy's question. ginza club i've never asked to see the girl before. they don't do line up, only ipad at the counter. i like how each girl gets their individual rooms, except some rooms are don't have as much mirrors, room 9's ceiling mirror is old and faded and tiny. ginza empire not sure, always booked. best thing you can do for yourself is check reviews then book ahead. just like all the other top tier shops, popular girls aren't waiting around for customers, even in this weather.

[Blackkkkkkk]

You're lucky it was only a 30 mins session. My booking was one hour. Haven't got time to do the AR yet but 200% agree with OP.

It was a 1 hr session. Walked out after 30 mins.

[cuteguy]

It was a 1 hr session. Walked out after 30 mins.

Did you provide negative feedback to reception or did they ignore you and not offer any refund (that other shops are willing to do)?

[hornedbeast]

I'm sure Ginza management will have her sent back on the next flight to Tokyo

[priapus1966]

A Rooter review of this lady might have been interesting.

[Sswilighy]

A Rooter review of this lady might have been interesting.

lol...i assume this is a joke?

[Vader]

A Rooter review of this lady might have been interesting.

Never reviews the bad ones

[iphone]

Yeah come on Wilson, better quality control please not quantity... and please tell the Japanese girls they don't getting more $ just because they are Japanese, they need to give better services too.

One girl I got few months a go from beginning saying so you like Japanese girls? And yes she is crap, keep watching time, no this no that, and then say first bell means I need to go not shower. Wtf? I've been to ginza hundred times

[OneandDone]

I was recently at 479 waiting room seemed like every booking was for a new girl. Guess so many punters starved of fresh talent that quantity over quality works. K clala was one of them, think disappeared already ?? I saw K Jane who wasnt feeling well but she said she would be ok for her last 2 customers. Anyway ... Jane off her game was still tons better than any of the newbies I've tried ... sigh

[DFKGuy]

Saw J Karen at Ginza yesterday and was below par. Get out after 30mnts 1 hr session and dont even get a refund. Can’t even get my dick hard and run to Kyoto straight away. What a waste.

[MrEeus42]

Saw a J girl yesterday. I won't name her, but she was so sad and unhappy I couldn't stay hard. Which made her feel worse. I gave up and showered. Gave her a hug and she burst into tears. A few of these girls are destroying themselves with the 12-14 hour shifts.

[Labia Vortex]

With some of these girls it’s their first time in the industry
Inexperienced Japanese girls have probably had sex twice in their life
All of a sudden it’s sex 10 times a day
An emotional and physical shock
Shame on Ginza for not looking after them

[wilisno]

With some of these girls it’s their first time in the industry
Inexperienced Japanese girls have probably had sex twice in their life
All of a sudden it’s sex 10 times a day
An emotional and physical shock
Shame on Ginza for not looking after them

Yeah, Ginza should just keep them here, give them one job a day and pay them the money of 10 jobs as they demanded !

What a bullshit malicious attack !

[ditchtheboss]

Yeah, Ginza should just keep them here, give them one job a day and pay them the money of 10 jobs as they demanded !

What a bullshit malicious attack !

Unfortunately the girls are doing a pretty tough job. The brothels are a service business, we pay for a service and expect to receive what we pay for.

The ladies can have rough days, rude clients or just feel a bit off and that will impact the service.

I think the barber is a good analogy. I pay $60 for my hair cut. Most days he does a pretty good job. Other days more average but overall I am pretty happy about it. When the cut is not quite right I can’t ask for my money or hair back.

I have been dropping $1200 weekly on average at Ginza empire.most times I walk out smiling and completely happy. Other times not quite. Sometimes the dfk was lfk, I prefer dfk, the website says dfk but I didn’t get it. I didn’t complain and I don’t think it is reasonable to do so.

These guys do a pretty tough job. We choose to go there and have our needs met. They deal with drunks, people high, etc… the girls can refuse service or go home if not feeling right.

I cut my barber some slack, the Ginza shops,the fellas working there and even more so the girls need some slack too.

P.s beyond spending thousands of dollars a month on empire and being MOSTLY happy with it, I am not affiliated with Ginza at all.

[DFKGuy]

I’m with you ditchtheboss. As the name suggests i’m dfkguy, so when when the girl refused or only allow lfk, it a major turn off for me and makes me want to ended quickly.

[ditchtheboss]

I’m with you ditchtheboss. As the name suggests i’m dfkguy, so when when the girl refused or only allow lfk, it a major turn off for me and makes me want to ended quickly.

Dude, if there are aspects of the service that are an absolute must for you then perhaps speak to the guys at reception and make sure they know of your expectations and can point you towards the right girl for you.

The nature of the service is such that there can be so much variability in the service that it is hard to absolutely evaluate if we receive the service we paid for, bar some obvious things. This makes it hard to make an absolute complaint about it. How deep does the fk need to be to classify as dfk or lfk?

In your case I would speak to the guys to make sure you have the right girl for you.
Cheers

[DFKGuy]

You are absolutely right mate. I did that a few times and still find the girl to refused. There’s even one girl said that the fk is for her bf. I mean you shouldn’t even work in the industry if that’s the case for her. Having said that, every guy needs a different needs. But thanks for the inside though.
Cheers

Always treats the girls with respect!!

[Fred Flintstone]

Hi, Mr Blackkkkkk bro. So sorry about your experience, please pm me I will give you compensation

Apologise again

Wilson
It’s not just about refunding Mr Blackkkk. You shouldn’t be employing such useless working girls in the first place. It’s not good for your reputation and business and it’s totally unfair on the customers.

Just look at the negative feedback this situation has generated for you.

If a girl is advertised as diamond, then she should offer showering together, BBBJ, DFK, CIM, DD and DATY. Most importantly, she should have a positive attitude. Customers are not paying to see a sad girl. If she’s not up to this, then stop falsely advertising her as a diamond and kick her ass back to Japan, Korea or China or wherever else you found her. You are just ripping people off

[holi_day]

A WL had a tough day, or abused by a rough customer, it has nothing to do with the next customer. If she is not fit for service, that's fine. But the shop needs to cancel or advise in advance that certain advertised services not able to provide. Don't just take the the money and make the next innocent customer a victim!

It's a tough job. But I don't see any easy jobs that are paid as well as Ginza WLs.

WLs should be respected, same for our decent punters.

[neighbourhood_lao_wang]

In your case I would speak to the guys to make sure you have the right girl for you.


solid advice for every punter.

too often i read a review, see the girl and get disappointed. but never when talking to management and get recommended a girl.

[ditchtheboss]

A WL had a tough day, or abused by a rough customer, it has nothing to do with the next customer. If she is not fit for service, that's fine. But the shop needs to cancel or advise in advance that certain advertised services not able to provide. Don't just take the the money and make the next innocent customer a victim!

It's a tough job. But I don't see any easy jobs that are paid as well as Ginza WLs.

WLs should be respected, same for our decent punters.

You are absolutely right. I am not sure if there is a process for the girls to speak to management and say for example that she is taking 1hr off to recover and regain herself before she continues or take the rest of the day off and cancel all the bookings. They may loose one session but in the long term the service for the remaining clients will be better and the shop and ladies would benefit.

Also completely agree that there should be communication about it although if the girl just spoke to them before the next session because the previous punter just left that would be tough. Having said that, any reasonable person going to a brothel should understand that if she is not up to it it is best not to go ahead.

It would be pretty hard to manage such a process but there should be ways about it. Publish a cancellation policy, well-being policy for the ladies, etc…

Having said all that, I am probably kidding myself that something like this would ever happen in a brothel.

Just a thought

[evkays]

The ladies can have rough days, rude clients or just feel a bit off and that will impact the service.



I definitely agree that this line of work can probably get really rough. At the same time, I can't think of any other job that offers an 18 year old girl $120-$200/hr with 0 qualifications and $0 invested. Even the 20 year olds in the NBA/soccer have invested 10+ years practicing their craft by the time they get there (and nothing was guaranteed for them when they were doing it).


solid advice for every punter.

too often i read a review, see the girl and get disappointed. but never when talking to management and get recommended a girl.

I have been directly misled by them before. 24 y/o girl that does X turns out to be a 34 year old lady that does not, in fact, do X.

[ditchtheboss]

I definitely agree that this line of work can probably get really rough. At the same time, I can't think of any other job that offers an 18 year old girl $120-$200/hr with 0 qualifications and $0 invested. Even the 20 year olds in the NBA/soccer have invested 10+ years practicing their craft by the time they get there (and nothing was guaranteed for them when they were doing it).



I have been directly misled by them before. 24 y/o girl that does X turns out to be a 34 year old lady that does not, in fact, do X.

I agree with you on how attractive the opportunity is for the girls. It is a question of value for money. What I believe we lack is an objective way to measure the service received and be able to objectively complain about it and be compensated for the failure to deliver and possibly false advertisement.

Is the case that the business is too good for them to have an actual need to deal with it? Possibly, I am not sure.

Can you imagine how entertaining a complaint to ACCC would be on ldf vs dfk and false advertisement.

Brothels are authentic businesses and the ACCC would have to investigate. That would be hilarious.