Quality of punts

[akkw]

With the prices of punts these days the quality is just not justifying the amount paid by us punters. The Japanese girls used to be good punts but even them are more often not worth the money paid.. WL who is here for short stay are working long hours to pull in as much money as possible before their trip back home and majority of them are too over worked to provide decent service for their charges. Better luck with next meeting as it is punting have to do with the good and bad.

[BerasAsing]

With the prices of punts these days the quality is just not justifying the amount paid by us punters. The Japanese girls used to be good punts but even them are more often not worth the money paid.. WL who is here for short stay are working long hours to pull in as much money as possible before their trip back home and majority of them are too over worked to provide decent service for their charges. Better luck with next meeting as it is punting have to do with the good and bad.

I don’t disagree. I am not bothering to spend money on any meeting any ladies and am restricting myself to a few regulars who I’ve know for a while and who occasionally throw in an extra hour so for me on a quiet day. That way I can calculate the value-for-money on quite a bit less than $150-20 /ph. Even then it can be a stretch .

But how do define “value” - what are you not getting?

[fnmfnmfnm]

Agreed. The prices keep going up for no reason than “they’re fresh off the plane” without any indication of quality of service, but my salary isn’t going up.

For the meanwhile I’ll be sticking to my $150hr regulars unless someone outstanding and well reviewed comes along.

[MrEeus42]

Completely agree. Many girls are tired and their attitude is not enthusiastic. Service might be ok but it's mechanical and I can't enjoy it If the girl is unhappy. It's becoming really hit and miss. Was it like this before the lockdowns?

[akkw]

But how do define “value” - what are you not getting?[/QUOTE]

Looks have been average and demanding premium dollars, tired, mechanical just ticking off the boxes.

[akkw]

Before lockdown there were more quality punts ofcourse every now and then you get the dud.

[Sswilighy]

Agreed. Also not enough trust worthy reviews. The only frequent reviews made are the least accurate as well. It is what it is. That’s why it’s called punting I guess.

[BerasAsing]

I agree that the experience with many ladies now seems stale and tired. But I have trouble bringing myself to blame them.

Many of these ladies got dudded as much as we do. Maybe bigger. They knew they were coming here to do sex-work. And many very happy having plenty of sex. So much so they believed Some friend-of-a-friend when he or she described working at Stilettos’ or some such premium establishment in Australia. Then because it was “so incredibly difficult” to be selected for these opportunities they paid between AUD 10-20,000 to that “friend” as they refer to that person. To get them a job in some shithole like Ashfield295 or 99Annandale - where the managers do their best to keep them in a perpetual state of ignorance about what other types of sex work besides being endlessly fucked bareback by tweakers for 5 hours a go or inebriated Indians for 15 minutes (but only if he comes twice, otherwise he’ll “be talking to the boss”).

[Sibon]

But how do define “value” - what are you not getting?

For that existential experience, emotive exhilaration and intellectual connection you would be wrong to expect value from a paid sex.

Let's face it if it's not the several pineapples I leave on the massage table the 20 something girl wouldn't even want to look at me although I'm not an unattractive man.

I'm starting to space my puntings. Once every 2 weeks is exciting. And once every month is heavenly. My regular was more than happy to me after a recent 3 weeks absence. She takes love making to greater height. We were in cloud nine.

This is a paid escapism. We are all trying to search for something which is not there and never exists.

Sometimes reading a good book or watching a great inspiring movie is just as rewarding.

Everytime I walk out of the backdoor of a parlour to take the long road to the station there is an emptiness within me. I meet two or three punters on the way out they look as lost and unfulfilled as I am.

[legs11]

With the prices of punts these days the quality is just not justifying the amount paid by us punters. The Japanese girls used to be good punts but even them are more often not worth the money paid.. WL who is here for short stay are working long hours to pull in as much money as possible before their trip back home and majority of them are too over worked to provide decent service for their charges. Better luck with next meeting as it is punting have to do with the good and bad.

Are none of the "good/quality punts" you talk about back working? Most of the pre-lockdown regulars that I see have long been back working and are providing the same levels of service, yes the prices have gone up but that is to be expected (what hasn't gone up in price). Why don't you visit them? it's called punting for a reason. We have influence on the "quality" of the session, if a punter is a rude, aggressive, unhygienic prick with a god complex who thinks he has some sort of ownership claim because he passed over a few dollars how do you expect the lady to respond? Boundless enthusiasm? Give me a break.

[The Sampler]

i too can attest that the recent price hikes in my usual ML haunts have not reflected in an increase in punt quality. If anything the quality has declined imo, making me even not come back to see certain MLs.
Its the price hike in both the massage and part 2/3.

I'm usualling looking for the holy trinity
1. Great part 1
2. Great part 2/3
3. Under $150 spend

Recently ive been losing out on all 3!

The other thing i benchmark against are the proper legit (non-thai) massage / physio places. They're usually $70+ for half an hour. To me if i get a back fixing massage while getting my balls drain for similar value then its a bargain.
But like i said, its been hard finding and retaining said gems

[BerasAsing]

For that existential experience, emotive exhilaration and intellectual connection you would be wrong to expect value from a paid sex.

Let's face it if it's not the several pineapples I leave on the massage table the 20 something girl wouldn't even want to look at me although I'm not an unattractive man.

I'm starting to space my puntings. Once every 2 weeks is exciting. And once every month is heavenly. My regular was more than happy to me after a recent 3 weeks absence. She takes love making to greater height. We were in cloud nine.

This is a paid escapism. We are all trying to search for something which is not there and never exists.

Sometimes reading a good book or watching a great inspiring movie is just as rewarding.

Everytime I walk out of the backdoor of a parlour to take the long road to the station there is an emptiness within me. I meet two or three punters on the way out they look as lost and unfulfilled as I am.

Very nicely put. I don’t think I’ve ever paid a lady money to get “relief” or even to “cum”. Obviously both those things are great. But not so great you’d pay money for them without being delivered wrapped in something something worth a whole lot more.

I remember when I first made a few posts after joining here. I was surprised how many people thought I was a fool for ever buying more than an hour with a lady , talking to her except to give instructions, or permitting the lady to do anything but work diligently to attend my sexual needs.

Although I eventually learned the hard way that even prostitutes with no English skills whatsoever can somehow still lie to you incessantly and well enough to make you believe they are a sweet and generous soul who despises all men but you…an investment in time and kindness can occasionally return to you in the form of some very special experiences that you’ll never find back in the real world. But you never know if it’s worth making the investment - I’d say in 19/20 working ladies you just get seen as easy money and they bank that money unable to believe anyone could be so stupid.

The 20th though…that’s unforgettable…and why you don’t go back to the real world and look for a regular girlfriend no matter had bad your finances are getting.

[Mickeydrippen]

For that existential experience, emotive exhilaration and intellectual connection you would be wrong to expect value from a paid sex.

Let's face it if it's not the several pineapples I leave on the massage table the 20 something girl wouldn't even want to look at me although I'm not an unattractive man.

I'm starting to space my puntings. Once every 2 weeks is exciting. And once every month is heavenly. My regular was more than happy to me after a recent 3 weeks absence. She takes love making to greater height. We were in cloud nine.

This is a paid escapism. We are all trying to search for something which is not there and never exists.

Sometimes reading a good book or watching a great inspiring movie is just as rewarding.

Everytime I walk out of the backdoor of a parlour to take the long road to the station there is an emptiness within me. I meet two or three punters on the way out they look as lost and unfulfilled as I am.
This very thoughtful and I think true. The last day of the Cherry Blossom festival in Japan is called “ mono no aware” first explained to me as meaning the pathos of things. Other descriptions of the phase takes it as meaning nothing lasts forever. That pathos you describe affected me greatly after a couple of surprisingly pleasant, friendly and warm punts. I’m not sure that my heart is up to to the afterglow pathos of punting. Maybe MLS only for me. I don’t worry so much about those girls well fare so much as well. I wonder as some of our senior members seem to be ML mainly if they have any comments on this.

[OneandDone]

I agree that the experience with many ladies now seems stale and tired. But I have trouble bringing myself to blame them.

Many of these ladies got dudded as much as we do. Maybe bigger. They knew they were coming here to do sex-work. And many very happy having plenty of sex. So much so they believed Some friend-of-a-friend when he or she described working at Stilettos’ or some such premium establishment in Australia. Then because it was “so incredibly difficult” to be selected for these opportunities they paid between AUD 10-20,000 to that “friend” as they refer to that person. To get them a job in some shithole like Ashfield295 or 99Annandale - where the managers do their best to keep them in a perpetual state of ignorance about what other types of sex work besides being endlessly fucked bareback by tweakers for 5 hours a go or inebriated Indians for 15 minutes (but only if he comes twice, otherwise he’ll “be talking to the boss”).

I was living in Asia for a big part of the pandemic, this industry went down big time. hk,china,Taiwan were relatively covid free, ktvs open while other industries struggling yet quality was poor. For these countries my guess is the PYTs stopped rejecting the lower to middle class guys chasing them and settled down. Japan might be similar story
I also think I am a crappier punter now, with my very few first time visits now I've decided early into the punt whether I'm returning, think the girl senses that too. But I'm content with a few regulars not really lured by fresh talent or this get in early before they're jaded attitude.

[00Eibwen]

Recently due to the increase in price to the higher quality WL, I notice the price difference from Western establishment are getting smaller.

Does it make anyone go to the Western establishment or they remain for the extra services and customer loyalty?

[ditchtheboss]

This very thoughtful and I think true. The last day of the Cherry Blossom festival in Japan is called “ mono no aware” first explained to me as meaning the pathos of things. Other descriptions of the phase takes it as meaning nothing lasts forever. That pathos you describe affected me greatly after a couple of surprisingly pleasant, friendly and warm punts. I’m not sure that my heart is up to to the afterglow pathos of punting. Maybe MLS only for me. I don’t worry so much about those girls well fare so much as well. I wonder as some of our senior members seem to be ML mainly if they have any comments on this.

I find my relationship with MLs to be more superficial than with WLs. For that reason I am avoiding WLs for a while as I have had issues recently. Having said that I had a fabulous FS punt last Friday but I was with a new girl so no issues there.

I will stick with MLs for now

[OLD SNAKE]

For that existential experience, emotive exhilaration and intellectual connection you would be wrong to expect value from a paid sex.

Let's face it if it's not the several pineapples I leave on the massage table the 20 something girl wouldn't even want to look at me although I'm not an unattractive man.

I'm starting to space my puntings. Once every 2 weeks is exciting. And once every month is heavenly. My regular was more than happy to me after a recent 3 weeks absence. She takes love making to greater height. We were in cloud nine.

This is a paid escapism. We are all trying to search for something which is not there and never exists.

Sometimes reading a good book or watching a great inspiring movie is just as rewarding.

Everytime I walk out of the backdoor of a parlour to take the long road to the station there is an emptiness within me. I meet two or three punters on the way out they look as lost and unfulfilled as I am.

Totally agree, this is why you should try internet dating, to fulfil the mental emptiness that left behind from punting, thats why guys date fat ugly girls, than go punting at the brothel after their date.

[yunglean]

For that existential experience, emotive exhilaration and intellectual connection you would be wrong to expect value from a paid sex.

Let's face it if it's not the several pineapples I leave on the massage table the 20 something girl wouldn't even want to look at me although I'm not an unattractive man.

I'm starting to space my puntings. Once every 2 weeks is exciting. And once every month is heavenly. My regular was more than happy to me after a recent 3 weeks absence. She takes love making to greater height. We were in cloud nine.

This is a paid escapism. We are all trying to search for something which is not there and never exists.

Sometimes reading a good book or watching a great inspiring movie is just as rewarding.

Everytime I walk out of the backdoor of a parlour to take the long road to the station there is an emptiness within me. I meet two or three punters on the way out they look as lost and unfulfilled as I am.

Fucking hell this is too real. I'm ML only because of this. At least I get some kind of physical benefit out of it if the MLs are good.

[DayMan69]

You guys are askiing way too much of a young Asian girl without much in the way of English skills. She isn't a psychiatrist, she's not an empath, a mind- reader, a friend or a shoulder to cry on. She's there to make more money than she can back home for as little effort as possible in terms of dealing with you. You're the 5th cock that day, her pussy is sore and she's feeling a bit pre-menstral. Treat her as you would your physio lady. With respect, pleasant conversation and appropriate money for her skills and ability to drain your balls and simply walk out the door a happy man at the end of your hour.

You're also overthinking the whole exercise. Just as a strained hamstring needs some work so do your balls. If you're not getting that at home, you're in effect asking a specialist nutsack physio to do it for you. Make a booking, pay your money, walk out the door.

For what it's worth, I find ML a much better experience. I can enjoy the illusion that she's choosing to do FS with me, as opposed to having to do it with me.

To reiterate, she's not your girlfriend or a partner, she's a nutsack physio. Say thanks very much and walk out the door and start thinking about where to get a good coffee.

[OLD SNAKE]

You guys are askiing way too much of a young Asian girl without much in the way of English skills. She isn't a psychiatrist, she's not an empath, a mind- reader, a friend or a shoulder to cry on. She's there to make more money than she can back home for as little effort as possible in terms of dealing with you. You're the 5th cock that day, her pussy is sore and she's feeling a bit pre-menstral. Treat her as you would your physio lady. With respect, pleasant conversation and appropriate money for her skills and ability to drain your balls and simply walk out the door a happy man at the end of your hour.

You're also overthinking the whole exercise. Just as a strained hamstring needs some work so do your balls. If you're not getting that at home, you're in effect asking a specialist nutsack physio to do it for you. Make a booking, pay your money, walk out the door.

For what it's worth, I find ML a much better experience. I can enjoy the illusion that she's choosing to do FS with me, as opposed to having to do it with me.

To reiterate, she's not your girlfriend or a partner, she's a nutsack physio. Say thanks very much and walk out the door and start thinking about where to get a good coffee.

Agree maybe some of the members here need some psychological help more than physical one, where others are vice versa, either way most of us need to fix ourselves first

[MilfMonger]

You guys are askiing way too much of a young Asian girl without much in the way of English skills. She isn't a psychiatrist, she's not an empath, a mind- reader, a friend or a shoulder to cry on. She's there to make more money than she can back home for as little effort as possible in terms of dealing with you. You're the 5th cock that day, her pussy is sore and she's feeling a bit pre-menstral. Treat her as you would your physio lady. With respect, pleasant conversation and appropriate money for her skills and ability to drain your balls and simply walk out the door a happy man at the end of your hour.

You're also overthinking the whole exercise. Just as a strained hamstring needs some work so do your balls. If you're not getting that at home, you're in effect asking a specialist nutsack physio to do it for you. Make a booking, pay your money, walk out the door.

For what it's worth, I find ML a much better experience. I can enjoy the illusion that she's choosing to do FS with me, as opposed to having to do it with me.

To reiterate, she's not your girlfriend or a partner, she's a nutsack physio. Say thanks very much and walk out the door and start thinking about where to get a good coffee.

I would not have agreed with this a year ago - but generally I’d consider them gospel truths now.

But there is still room a bit if nuance out there in the morning trenches. Whenever I have expected anything greater value than a pleasant fuck from a WL I have been disappointed. Sometimes intensely so. Flip it around though, and when I’ve expected to find nothing but a pleasant fuck at best, and always assumed there’d be some kind of scammy bullshit run at me by boss or lady if I said anything more than ‘how much’, ‘suck’, and’ ‘fuck’, I’ve occasionally made some unbelievable, deep, and enduring connections with several WL’s and one Mama-san over the years.

Perhaps i can say i never found what I was forever looking for when I started punting. But I stumbled into some experiences and relationships I would never have thought possible or desirable until I was up to my neck in them.

That said, overall in the last year or two, the Chinese Milf market has got lot more value out of me than I’ve gotten out of it. Although when the market measures value on a monetary basis while I measure my returns on the basis of novelty, amusement, and finding ever more extravagent and debauched ways to fuck my no-good children out of their inheritence it is sometimes hard to understand whether me or the MILFS are ahead on points on any given day.

[cuteguy]

Totally agree, this is why you should try internet dating, to fulfil the mental emptiness that left behind from punting, thats why guys date fat ugly girls, than go punting at the brothel after their date.

Its not only fat ugly girls that force guys to feel empty and go to massage shops and brothels. Have a good look at Western chicks these days! Many are hooked on Instagram following whackos, feminists, people who have done little for the community eg Paris Hilton or dysfunctional Kardashian family or people who show off they are very popular leading great lives but hide their struggles with mental health issues and loneliness. They are bad role models and behaving more like men and not as women. It's no wonder Western men are looking elsewhere where women still have feminine qualities and possess family values.

[Mickeydrippen]

This deserves a bump.

[xboyx]

I don't know about you guys, but for me:

it started with C girls using heavily filtered photos, eventually I stopped seeing C girls. I haven't seen any C girls (WLs). I wonder if C girls are still getting booked by any punters?

then J and K girls are getting price jacked up in all shops. Many K girls weren't worth the price anymore. and I've stopped seeing most K girls now. I wonder if K girls are getting booked by other punters too?

and now many J girls are not worth the money either, it's getting there

[Puntonthego]

I agree that the experience with many ladies now seems stale and tired. But I have trouble bringing myself to blame them.

Many of these ladies got dudded as much as we do. Maybe bigger. They knew they were coming here to do sex-work. And many very happy having plenty of sex. So much so they believed Some friend-of-a-friend when he or she described working at Stilettos’ or some such premium establishment in Australia. Then because it was “so incredibly difficult” to be selected for these opportunities they paid between AUD 10-20,000 to that “friend” as they refer to that person. To get them a job in some shithole like Ashfield295 or 99Annandale - where the managers do their best to keep them in a perpetual state of ignorance about what other types of sex work besides being endlessly fucked bareback by tweakers for 5 hours a go or inebriated Indians for 15 minutes (but only if he comes twice, otherwise he’ll “be talking to the boss”).

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[Labia Vortex]

Price has gone up.....Quality gone down
Sticking with tried and true regulars is the protocol that works

[Sombremask]

Yes definitely agree. I think the number of choices has gone up significantly but quality has decreased

[Kiryu0]

Ginza is going peak quantity over quality at the moment with all the J girls they're getting...

[Meng]

Ginza is going peak quantity over quality at the moment with all the J girls they're getting...
They're still booked out so there's still a tonne of suckers forking out 300-400 dollars for these girls that would just smoke bomb out of the country in a few weeks.

[Rooster18]

They're still booked out so there's still a tonne of suckers forking out 300-400 dollars for these girls that would just smoke bomb out of the country in a few weeks.

I think the chances of a bad punt with the new influx is currently higher than getting a good punt. plus the prices are over inflated for sure.. More time required for intel prior to booking than before. And like others, tend to stay away from the new ones and stick to the tried and tested.. Or get reliable intel.. and I mean reliable...

[HardCore]

Let's start a movement lads, nobody tips more than $100 for FS and all of a sudden these girls will have to meet the market or make no cabbage. People power at it's finest. The deal is BBBJ, CIM with swallow if we like, covered or bare FS at our choice and maybe optional free anal thrown in with ATM, again our choice. $100 flat rate tip everywhere. :shout:

[Mickeydrippen]

I think the chances of a bad punt with the new influx is currently higher than getting a good punt. plus the prices are over inflated for sure.. More time required for intel prior to booking than before. And like others, tend to stay away from the new ones and stick to the tried and tested.. Or get reliable intel.. and I mean reliable...What does reliable equate to. First customer at the start of the shift or sixth customer 11 hours in. Service has to be difficult surely.

[Meng]

What does reliable equate to. First customer at the start of the shift or sixth customer 11 hours in. Service has to be difficult surely.

If that's the case then they should rest, take days off, work less hours etc.

I understand they want to maximise the amount of money they earn in the short period of time but the customers at the tail end of their shift or their time in Australia will suffer.

If you're after consistency then probably avoid these new influxes especially since they're still getting booked out lol. We really do love our Japanese girls don't we. Maybe we're all just masochists.

[fnmfnmfnm]

Seems like most Ginza prices are at least $300 regardless of the girl, and even more for unproven talent from Japan. I'll stick to the tried and tested WLs.

[The Sampler]

Let's start a movement lads, nobody tips more than $100 for FS and all of a sudden these girls will have to meet the market or make no cabbage. People power at it's finest. The deal is BBBJ, CIM with swallow if we like, covered or bare FS at our choice and maybe optional free anal thrown in with ATM, again our choice. $100 flat rate tip everywhere. :shout:

i miss the days that $50 was the standard to get FS at a ML shop!

[Mickeydrippen]

If that's the case then they should rest, take days off, work less hours etc.

I understand they want to maximise the amount of money they earn in the short period of time but the customers at the tail end of their shift or their time in Australia will suffer.

If you're after consistency then probably avoid these new influxes especially since they're still getting booked out lol. We really do love our Japanese girls don't we. Maybe we're all just masochists.
I agree totally. These agency or whatever girls hours are a turnoff.

[yowser]

Some good information here.

Since the borders reopened we all went ape shit getting hyped up about the new talent coming in that hasn't come in for 2 years, but now we are starting to think with our heads and wallets.

[looker]

Agree with this. Quality is currently awful. Much, much older than advertised. Poor bodies. Getting tired of being offered mutton described as lamb.

[Mickeydrippen]

Agree with this. Quality is currently awful. Much, much older than advertised. Poor bodies. Getting tired of being offered mutton described as lamb.Being called darling. You’re so big. Cheap gaudy negligées with belly. False eyelashes. And who the fuck does the décor. I call that mutton dressed as mutton.

[OneandDone]

Yeah alot of girls at the top establishments are making up the numbers. No wonder when there is a good one all the punters are sadly desperately begging for ppl to treat her nice, be gentle etc.
Just means less punting which is fine with me. Almost 2 decades of punting, seen my first 2 flabby tummies in as many weeks complete turnoff.
In fairness to the reception I've found their service very good. I guess i prefer them ruder with better inventory

[cplurt2]

My favourite was paying for gold service with an alleged large breasted Japanese woman. While she was cool personality wise there was no attempt at a good experience. I ended up going to a western shop and spent half the money and got alot better service from a Chinese older milf.

[Nabstinks]

Yep I also agree.

My go to used to be Midas.

Sugar body scrub then milk body slide was fking awesome. Followed by a spa and blowjob.

But now at $310 for 90mins it is way too expensive not even getting fs.

I went to check it out a few months ago.

Limited selection and service was mediocre at best.

Really sad everything went downhill

[GoldfishMan]

I'm telling you bros, it's a complete J-girl overload here. Sick and tired of eating sushi every meal, lol!
I've cut right down the punting volume now. Went completely dry for 2 weeks, zero punts. Last week had to go for a couple of sessions to "maintain relationships" with shop owners. Think I'll go for a whole month without any action starting this week.

[rooter]

I'm telling you bros, it's a complete J-girl overload here. Sick and tired of eating sushi every meal, lol!
I've cut right down the punting volume now. Went completely dry for 2 weeks, zero punts. Last week had to go for a couple of sessions to "maintain relationships" with shop owners. Think I'll go for a whole month without any action starting this week.

You will not be missed bro. It will be as if you were never here.
The circle and and the cycle and the circus of life will go on without you.
Life is a Sushi Train and it stops for no man and it will power on with or without you, it's just that others will partake of it's tasty delights rather than you.
You, me, everyone reading this, we are nothing, we are just dicks with a wallet (or maybe wallets with a dick, anyway you know what I mean).
It's good to retreat from the hurly burly of life every now and then, sit in lotus position, contemplate one's navel ... but you will be back ... women, whisky, fentanyl, BBBJ, chilli crab, money, KFC, Gorgonzola, DATY, coke, Prosecco, pokies, CIM, karaoke ... all those delicious things, they always pull us back in.
Enjoy your brief stoic sojourn bro. Peace.

[GoldfishMan]

Rooter bro, I never even thought of persuading anyone to do anything. I'm only speaking from my own position. FMD with the cost of living ramping up, I reckon I'm going to need every buck I can save. Punting is almost the last thing on the list of priorities now, especially when there's nothing much to look forward to.

Good luck to everyone else still punting. Hope you all have the most mind-blowing experiences!

[Sibon]

Recently saw a new ML 3 times. Her beauty wore out the third time.

She didn't respond to hugs. She was cold as fish.

She wouldn't take off her clothes. Only wanted me to give her a massage. And she fell asleep during the massage.

She wore a trunk sporty underwear commonly favoured by middle-age ladies.

If she thinks I'm paying her $120 to improve my massage she must be mentally unsound. :)

I'm starting to find the massage parlour scene boring.

[Rooster18]

I love my J girls but the recent lack of quality plus the higher chances of a bad punt, I am considering top shelf C Girls which hasnt been on my radar for a long while.. Or go to a tried and tested K girls who are generally a bit older.. Or like others, take a break...

On the massage front, I think things are a bit different to FS where there's still are a couple of new gems... I saw a ML last week who is one of the most booked out MLs and been doing it for a few years and even she was mentioning she's getting frail and wants to downsize her offering and services even to regulars. Reflection of the current times maybe??

[cuteguy]

Recently saw a new ML 3 times. Her beauty wore out the third time.

She didn't respond to hugs. She was cold as fish.

She wouldn't take off her clothes. Only wanted me to give her a massage. And she fell asleep during the massage.

She wore a trunk sporty underwear commonly favoured by middle-age ladies.

If she thinks I'm paying her $120 to improve my massage she must be mentally unsound. :)

I'm starting to find the massage parlour scene boring.

What's next for you? Swinger clubs?

[Sibon]

What's next for you? Swinger clubs?

Chess Club or Russian language class.

[Beergut]

Oh well save money and buy some more

[Sibon]

Hey guys, I have a question.

I have been punting from last few years. Started seeing ML then moved to WL and back to ML again. My question is what exactly to expect from extras offered. I know and understand part 3 is sex. But part 2 have different options like daty, cbj, bbbj, standard nhj and body slides or (b2b).

Standard nhj is still very confusing for me even after couple of years. Like some MLs won't let you suck their boobs. So nhj include sucking of boobs or it's becoming a new extra and you have to pay for it? I mean wtf you are getting nude for if I can't suck your titties. And why you didn't tell me in the beginning that even if I pay your desired $$$ in extras it is not possible to suck your titties.
(I don't let my customers suck my breasts) wtf :startle:

When I first meet a new ML I would spend time to have a chat with her to find out what are her boundaries. One girl in 200 Stanmore told me can kiss but can't suck titties. Okay I left them alone to avoid having an argument about what I do is a kiss and not a suck.

Sometimes the first meet is often a waste as I often end up with a can't kiss nipples, can't touch between the legs, can't do light kiss etc. scenario. And strangely it's okay to do Part III. I guess the ML feels protected when you're covered with a piece of rubber.

Increasingly I have lower expectations from a punt. Ask yourself what do you expect out of a disconnected and unfeeling 30 minutes commercial transaction? It's more of the same: you pay and I open legs offer.

Mamasans and the girls want you go in and out of the room with fast turnover of customers with an eye on the clock ticking away while a punter seeks excitement, a bit of romance and some connection.

[Sly22]

As a very recent participant in punting I find this discussion a tad depressing. For me it’s escapism, and if the odds of getting that escape blow out too far I won’t bother. To date I reckon I’m 1/4 very good, 1/4 good, 1/4 fair, and 1/4 disappointing. I think I’ll pull up stumps if the very good blows out to only 10%

[cplurt2]

I'm about to tap out myself after this last week. I went to Taylor's after seeing an ad for a very large chested Japanese girl. I thought to myself this streak of crap J girls is gonna end. The picture doesn't mention she's standard only and while she's an amicable girl the experience felt very off and a step above mounting a sex doll