View Full Version : General talk BBBJ with CIM shop - Is it a good investment?
MaxPunter
02-03-2013, 02:18 PM
Wondering if a LipSSA service as the one in Narwee or the booming parlours in Korea is a good investment here in Sydney
MARKET: BIG potential, particularly in areas with big concentration of offices (CBD, North Sydney, ST Leonards, ...). Instead of taking a coffee break Mr Jo working at CBA or Vodafone can spend more wisely his money getting a quick relief by a young chick
Let's see if the investment is sound
SERVICE
Duration of service: 20 minutes, this potentially mean that 1 girl can have 2 customers per hour (allowing 10 min rests between session)
Cost of service: $80 Considering that you can have FS for 90-120 you can't charge more than this
Cost of lady: $50 Don't think any young pretty chick would do CIM for less then 50$ per customer
FIXED COSTS
Cost of monthly rent (3 bed in city): $3000-3500 per month
Cost of bills(light, phone, ...): 500 per month
Total: $4000 per month ...let's say $1000 per week
Assuming 3 girls working on 5 days basis and each girl having 10 customers per day
INCOME:
Girl Income: $500 x day ($50 x 10 customers)
Shop Income: $300($30x10 customers) X3 (number of girls) = $900 per day
Shop Weekly income: $4500
Net Income: $4500-1000=$3500 per week
Not too bad
Of course it is a simplification, but at front of almost null investment the potential return is quite attractive, and the service offered for the community would make the entrepreneur a benefactor :-)
the wizard
02-03-2013, 02:24 PM
when do we start .....
MaxPunter
02-03-2013, 02:42 PM
when do we start .....
here comes the difficult part...recruiting!
I guess the best approach would be to use one of the expat websites such as Hojunara for Koreans to recruit the girls
These websites have all the possible ads you can imagine, therefore i wouldn't be surprised to see something like:
"Looking for girls for New LipSSa shop opening in Sydney. Central location, great income, flexibility, only selected customers. all applications welcome"
Girls training will be of course the best part of the job
mkko2
02-03-2013, 02:47 PM
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MaxPunter
02-03-2013, 03:00 PM
Imagine how would it be to go for a BBJCIM before the meeting you have to chair in the afternoon.
Quick walk to the LipSSA, relaxing BBJ, shower being washed by the cute girl who has just taken all the load of your stress...and off you go relaxed , energized with a big smile on your face ready to face all the assholes coming to the meeting ready to argue with everything you have to say.
Time invested: 30 minutes
Money invested: $80
Benefits: +++++++++++++++++++++++++++
LipSSA increases work efficiency
LipSSa is good for the community
AHLUNGOR
02-03-2013, 03:31 PM
May be more convenient if the service can cum to your office (then they will have No overhead cost!!), like these !!
http://25.media.tumblr.com/d80df5e5b480fe6843e60f4b2ad21867/tumblr_miwj33npiq1raxltgo1_500.jpg
or This !!
http://i.imgur.com/6Dli1WS.gif
Then finished with this !! (oh, sorry it was meant to be CIM, she leaks!! ), or was that you actually prefer to cum on tits instead........haha
http://24.media.tumblr.com/86c588b27ffa984cbcfdbcabec7fdd7d/tumblr_miwj1ykqmH1raxltgo1_500.jpg
Or even This, no one will want to play the dart board any more if you can practise your shoot like this ...............lol
http://24.media.tumblr.com/3fdf26a786878cf87bd7c74f319b37eb/tumblr_mj0iyogDHA1raxltgo1_400.gif
And for VIP members, you can always upgrade to a Double !!
http://24.media.tumblr.com/cb82ac3882c2989e8ad69808caddf8cc/tumblr_mj0hxy8E2a1raxltgo1_500.jpg
Wondering if a LipSSA service as the one in Narwee or the booming parlours in Korea is a good investment here in Sydney
MARKET: BIG potential, particularly in areas with big concentration of offices (CBD, North Sydney, ST Leonards, ...). Instead of taking a coffee break Mr Jo working at CBA or Vodafone can spend more wisely his money getting a quick relief by a young chick
Let's see if the investment is sound
SERVICE
Duration of service: 20 minutes, this potentially mean that 1 girl can have 2 customers per hour (allowing 10 min rests between session)
Cost of service: $80 Considering that you can have FS for 90-120 you can't charge more than this
Cost of lady: $50 Don't think any young pretty chick would do CIM for less then 50$ per customer
FIXED COSTS
Cost of monthly rent (3 bed in city): $3000-3500 per month
Cost of bills(light, phone, ...): 500 per month
Total: $4000 per month ...let's say $1000 per week
Assuming 3 girls working on 5 days basis and each girl having 10 customers per day
INCOME:
Girl Income: $500 x day ($50 x 10 customers)
Shop Income: $300($30x10 customers) X3 (number of girls) = $900 per day
Shop Weekly income: $4500
Net Income: $4500-1000=$3500 per week
Not too bad
Of course it is a simplification, but at front of almost null investment the potential return is quite attractive, and the service offered for the community would make the entrepreneur a benefactor :-)
Why don't we get 50 member all contribute $80 aweek and rent a 3 bedroom apartament and have our own bbbj cim gals.
jellyshots
02-03-2013, 04:56 PM
You are forgetting that in the first week, you may not have any customers and may have to fork out rent and a minimum wage to keep the girls happy until things pick up. Also, don't forget 4 weeks bond, rent up front plus office refurbish or new furniture.
You will also have phone, Internet, reception employee, credit card facility, towels, etc. I would suggest that you have at least $40k ready to lose on the assumption that it doesn't work out.
I gave this serious thought until for all of the hassle, I realized that I was making more money in the short term share market and wouldn't have to deal with all of the bs associated with owning a shop.
8inches
02-03-2013, 05:18 PM
Why don't we get 50 member all contribute $80 aweek and rent a 3 bedroom apartament and have our own bbbj cim gals.
You have a better chance of winning lottery than making this happen.
Kirito
02-03-2013, 05:50 PM
I would frequent such a shop at least once a week. Lol.:shout:
jellyshots
02-03-2013, 05:53 PM
I'd probably visit nearly every day if it were in the city but I wouldn't want to run it or own it...
MaxPunter
02-03-2013, 05:59 PM
You are forgetting that in the first week, you may not have any customers and may have to fork out rent and a minimum wage to keep the girls happy until things pick up. Also, don't forget 4 weeks bond, rent up front plus office refurbish or new furniture.
You will also have phone, Internet, reception employee, credit card facility, towels, etc. I would suggest that you have at least $40k ready to lose on the assumption that it doesn't work out.
I gave this serious thought until for all of the hassle, I realized that I was making more money in the short term share market and wouldn't have to deal with all of the bs associated with owning a shop.
If you advertise the service in forum like this one and offer 1 week promotional price, you ll be booked out for the first week easily. I have seen the Narwee joint being always busy during the glorious times of Alysha, Crystal and Coco...and it is fuc..ing Narwee in a shity/stinky/smelly 2 bedrooms apartment.
The share market is unpredictable and you are only a little player with no control
Sex, and particularly effortless services (effortless for the man of course) such as BBJCIM are always in demand, easy predictable income...assuming you are good at running the business and selecting nice girls
Narwee management was hopeless, never answer phone calls, limited english, no communication with customers...but they had it up and running and quite successfully too
jellyshots
02-03-2013, 06:06 PM
My issue would be the recruitment. I only speak English. I know a few hot Cauc pieces who would have no issue with reception or management.
With shares, the long term market is less volatile. Short term, I end up just betting alongside Travelmate's thread. Small risk, mostly win, punt for free...
PhoBot
02-03-2013, 06:07 PM
Hardest thing would be finding the cocksuckers. Sure you could get milfs, but finding 20 somethings that want to suck dick and swallow cum all day would be hard.
jellyshots
02-03-2013, 06:14 PM
Hardest thing would be finding the cocksuckers. Sure you could get milfs, but finding 20 somethings that want to suck dick and swallow cum all day would be hard.
Well, if you had a few apartments in the city they could live in and a separate place for the shop, you could entice a few over from Korea if you paid their airfare or came up with some sort of program to get them over, make a few bucks, etc.
Otherwise, you could advertise in Korea or China to see what kind of enquiries you get from the girls before committing to bring them in.
It may actually be worth pursuing...
MaxPunter
02-03-2013, 07:07 PM
Sucking only is much easier than providing FS, if so many hot asian chicks are willing to go FS i don't see why should be much more complicated finding 5 champions of cocksucking
An experiment could be done by posting an ad on Hojunara and see how it is received by the potential BJ technicians
Life in Sydney is expensive, many young overseas students need money; average pay in korean restaurant for a waitress is $8-10 per hour, this is real exploitation
rooter
02-03-2013, 07:18 PM
Maybe i am digressing a bit here but I think the reason Styles lost their bbbj "technicians" was that they tried to move to a nude bbbj service and girls like Crystal and Alysha, and Jennifer were not comfortable with this and left.
I am not sure that this is the case, maybe some other bros have better inside information than me.
but if this is what actually happened then this is a classic case of shooting yourself in the foot.
If another shop starts off with this concept then for fucks sake listen to what the girls are OK with - if they don't want to get their gear off then respect that.
We can see nude girl's everywhere - but girls supremely skilled in bbbj and CIM are not always easy to find!
chandra_man1
02-03-2013, 07:30 PM
perhaps shops like 5*, 533, and ginza who has lots of competent cocksuckers can provide that service. lets say at 5* pay $80 for 15 mins of blow & go, or 533 charge $50 15 mins blow & go. the girls wont even need go nude. 5 mins to strip down and wash, 10 mins of sucking, just a quick rinese at then end and your happy as larry.
Sillyboy
02-03-2013, 07:41 PM
If you recall there was a big issue driven by several punters on this forum about the girls only doing BBBJ clothed. The choice was the girls and some punters were upset that they couldn't access their tits. Even non-customers typically waded into the debate without much thought on what the girls service bottomline was.
Ultimately the choice should remain the girls as that't the service they provide but maybe their management heard some of their customers complaints and made the move & killed the goose so to speak.
Girls like Alyssha & Crystal were fantastic at what they did as BBBJ technicians and when comfortable with a client were quite happy to get their gear off but it had to be driven by their motive & comfort zone & not the other way around. It's a shame that these girls have left now.
rooter
02-03-2013, 08:01 PM
If you recall there was a big issue driven by several punters on this forum about the girls only doing BBBJ clothed. The choice was the girls and some punters were upset that they couldn't access their tits. Even non-customers typically waded into the debate without much thought on what the girls service bottomline was.
Ultimately the choice should remain the girls as that't the service they provide but maybe their management heard some of their customers complaints and made the move & killed the goose so to speak.
Girls like Alyssha & Crystal were fantastic at what they did as BBBJ technicians and when comfortable with a client were quite happy to get their gear off but it had to be driven by their motive & comfort zone & not the other way around. It's a shame that these girls have left now.
Exactly.
I actually only had one session with Crystal and she was wearing her classic little black dress.
We hit it off really well and with 10 minutes she had her shoulder straps down revealing a sexy black bra and the bottom of her dress pulled up to her waist revealing a sexy black g string and hot little arse.
It was so fucking hot; much hotter than being nude - I am getting a hard-on just remembering it!
MaxPunter
02-03-2013, 08:27 PM
The great thing about Styles@Narwee for me, was exactly that the girl won't necessarily strip nude or allow to touch them
The service was $80 for BBJ only, was up to the girl allow or not more interaction
That was exciting!
I felt good each time i click with the girl and she was willing of going a bit over what she was paid for
The service was personal...and to me that was the whole point in trekking all the way to Narwee...personalised not robotic service
I imagine many greedy punters complaining and asking nude service, 69 and all sort of things...but this was against the true nature of the shop itself, so i suppose Alysha and Crystal left
Now it is just a below average FS shop, and they still have to use the eternal unfulfilled promise that Alysha will be back in 2 weeks to keep the customers interested...really sad
The market is there ready to be conquered by some smart entrepreneur
Shaggydog
02-03-2013, 08:50 PM
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rooter
02-03-2013, 09:23 PM
You don't even need a new shop to provide this service!
Any existing FS shop could offer this service.
Most FS shops have attractive girls with good bbbj/cim skills.
Its just a matter of the manager asking which girls are Ok with providing this service and setting a price and thats it.
The girls would still provide the usual FS but this bbbj only service would just be a specific booking they are availale for.
You don't even need a new shop to provide this service!
Any existing FS shop could offer this service.
Most FS shops have attractive girls with good bbbj/cim skills.
Its just a matter of the manager asking which girls are Ok with providing this service and setting a price and thats it.
The girls would still provide the usual FS but this bbbj only service would just be a specific booking they are availale for.
I hate to disagree with you but none of the 533 gals can compare to alysha or crytal in term of look. Maybe Nana can but from memory she only dose cbj and her skill can't be compare to alysha or crystal. Why they have to move from artatmon. :cry:
jellyshots
02-03-2013, 11:32 PM
Exactly.
I actually only had one session with Crystal and she was wearing her classic little black dress.
We hit it off really well and with 10 minutes she had her shoulder straps down revealing a sexy black bra and the bottom of her dress pulled up to her waist revealing a sexy black g string and hot little arse.
It was so fucking hot; much hotter than being nude - I am getting a hard-on just remembering it!
I also had a great connection with Crystal. I used to be the first customer for her day. Only saw her a few times but I remember the first time I met her, she jumped on my lap and said, you book me. I actually had a choice between Alyssa and Crystal that day. Anyway, Crystal managed to fit in DFK, dress off, hot, hot g-string. She gave me a lap dance and kept flashing her pussy at me. Needless to say, it was 40 minutes well worth it. I remember doing a little talking at the end but I think Sally had a chat to her because I got along we'll with her too.
jellyshots
02-03-2013, 11:35 PM
The great thing about Styles@Narwee for me, was exactly that the girl won't necessarily strip nude or allow to touch them
The market is there ready to be conquered by some smart entrepreneur
Dammit MaxImpact, you really have me considering it now...
tonyphil55
03-03-2013, 08:50 AM
You are forgetting that in the first week, you may not have any customers and may have to fork out rent and a minimum wage to keep the girls happy until things pick up. Also, don't forget 4 weeks bond, rent up front plus office refurbish or new furniture.
You will also have phone, Internet, reception employee, credit card facility, towels, etc. I would suggest that you have at least $40k ready to lose on the assumption that it doesn't work out.
I gave this serious thought until for all of the hassle, I realized that I was making more money in the short term share market and wouldn't have to deal with all of the bs associated with owning a shop.
Don't forget you also need to lodge DA with council to run business unless building is already used for similar type business. This con take Time and Money. I n meantime you are paying dead rent.
MaxPunter
03-03-2013, 10:17 AM
Don't forget you also need to lodge DA with council to run business unless building is already used for similar type business. This con take Time and Money. I n meantime you are paying dead rent.
If you don't want to go with the hassles of doing everything legit...
Rent a unit in World Tower, with all thousands of people coming in/out constantly, nobody will notice you are running a business.
You don't even need a new shop to provide this service!
Any existing FS shop could offer this service.
Most FS shops have attractive girls with good bbbj/cim skills.
I don't agree that this service would be the same if provided by a standard FS shop
I like the idea of being suck by an "amateur", not a professional FS WL
Alysha, Crystal, Coco were special because they were not FS WL, they were still "pure" eh eh
I always felt like getting a BJ by a girl just met at a party that doesn't want to go all the way to sex...but that was just my fantasy...
MaxPunter
03-03-2013, 10:22 AM
Dammit MaxImpact, you really have me considering it now...
I gave it a serious thought too...but it needs time and commitment, particularly to start the business and complete the recruiting.
Difficult to run an activity like this in secret, if you are attached to someone
For now i am happy with my life, with my gf and with my occasional punting
jellyshots
03-03-2013, 10:29 AM
I gave it a serious thought too...but it needs time and commitment, particularly to start the business and complete the recruiting.
Difficult to run an activity like this in secret, if you are attached to someone
For now i am happy with my life, with my gf and with my occasional punting
Yes, especially when I am already making a great income through my legit business. The biggest issue isn't dead rent or things like that, it's communicating to the BT's (blowjob technicians).
MaxPunter
03-03-2013, 11:32 AM
Yes, especially when I am already making a great income through my legit business. The biggest issue isn't dead rent or things like that, it's communicating to the BT's (blowjob technicians).
Agree, the investment is not an issue, you can start easily the business with 10K and get even in 2 months
Once you get it started, if you run it properly respecting the technicians then it become much easier to recruit since the word will spread across the girls
If the girl don't mind sucking, it is easy money, 10 min job instead of 60 minutes sweating doing full service
Expat websites should be the starting point...i might really post an ad on Hojunara and see if i receive only insults or some interest as well
the wizard
03-03-2013, 11:42 AM
Duplicated post
black knight
03-03-2013, 12:17 PM
Good idea, sounds too easy, but im sure it's not
8inches
03-03-2013, 01:52 PM
You'd think a girl that sucks cocks all day wouldnt mind showing some titties
koolace2000
03-03-2013, 03:48 PM
i have been thinking about this idea too.
i have a contact in korea who can assist with recruitment.(former bbbj technician)
if any one is interested in the business. please email me on bbbjcim@hotmail.com
jellyshots
03-03-2013, 03:53 PM
I think I'll talk to some Cauc ML's I know that provide the odd extra to see if a Cauc BBBJ CIM would work.
koolace2000
03-03-2013, 03:59 PM
i think caus , will ask more money , therefore decrease in your margin , or higher price charge and less punters visiting . price and demand elasticity.
jellyshots
03-03-2013, 04:14 PM
i think caus , will ask more money , therefore decrease in your margin , or higher price charge and less punters visiting . price and demand elasticity.
You'd be surprised at how little they make per 90 mins as ML's. Since I already now how much they get along with how much they charge with extras, I would aim to keep the price to $75 per 20 mins and still ensure they get more as a BJ Tech.
The thing is I was mainly concerned about the communication with Korean BT because I don't speak Korean. Which would also make it hell to manage the day to day activities. There are a whole heap of local girls willing to do something similar if the money was right.
8inches
03-03-2013, 04:20 PM
Seriously, do you think the cops and owners from other shops are gonna let you guys just open without wanting a slice of the action?
wake up to yourselves!
jellyshots
03-03-2013, 04:26 PM
Most of the other shops are doing just fine... Cops don't want to be on film either...
8inches
03-03-2013, 04:35 PM
Yes of course why would other shops or cops want more money?
In fact why would anyone want to make extra cash the easy way?
Perish the thought!
You'll be fine setting up shop without protection.
mkko2
03-03-2013, 04:37 PM
too bad the concept is already taken by CIMB Group (Cum in Mouth Business Group)
http://www.cimb.com
jellyshots
03-03-2013, 05:11 PM
Yes of course why would other shops or cops want more money?
In fact why would anyone want to make extra cash the easy way?
Perish the thought!
You'll be fine setting up shop without protection.
Again with the assumptions... What makes you think that I would do something like this on my own? And since I have the money, I wouldn't need to be partnering with other money guys, more like people who could deal with the very issues you've brought up.
Style_Admin
04-03-2013, 04:12 PM
Wondering if a LipSSA service as the one in Narwee or the booming parlours in Korea is a good investment here in Sydney
MARKET: BIG potential, particularly in areas with big concentration of offices (CBD, North Sydney, ST Leonards, ...). Instead of taking a coffee break Mr Jo working at CBA or Vodafone can spend more wisely his money getting a quick relief by a young chick
Let's see if the investment is sound
SERVICE
Duration of service: 20 minutes, this potentially mean that 1 girl can have 2 customers per hour (allowing 10 min rests between session)
Cost of service: $80 Considering that you can have FS for 90-120 you can't charge more than this
Cost of lady: $50 Don't think any young pretty chick would do CIM for less then 50$ per customer
FIXED COSTS
Cost of monthly rent (3 bed in city): $3000-3500 per month
Cost of bills(light, phone, ...): 500 per month
Total: $4000 per month ...let's say $1000 per week
Assuming 3 girls working on 5 days basis and each girl having 10 customers per day
INCOME:
Girl Income: $500 x day ($50 x 10 customers)
Shop Income: $300($30x10 customers) X3 (number of girls) = $900 per day
Shop Weekly income: $4500
Net Income: $4500-1000=$3500 per week
Not too bad
Of course it is a simplification, but at front of almost null investment the potential return is quite attractive, and the service offered for the community would make the entrepreneur a benefactor :-)
why ponder?
just come in and see us , if you are interested !!!!!
jellyshots
06-03-2013, 06:04 PM
why ponder?
just come in and see us , if you are interested !!!!!
Only if Crystal comes back :)
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