Why massage over FS?

[xeniba]

Can someone explain to me why massages with extras is so popular here? Why do you go RNT instead of FS?

From my perspective, you pay more for less service. Every minute she's got her hands on your back is a minute away from licking / kissing / fucking her.

[aussiegaigin]

We go for the "thrill of the chase".

[max_power]

Unfortunately there is no chase as 99% of massage girls offer FS

[andrewv]

The chase I enjoy is when a legit massage girl agrees to provide a happy ending. It is the thrill of the chase, and very few end up agreeing, but it does happen.
But for RnT places, is is pretty common to get FS if the price is right (you offer to pay enough).

[Themassageking]

Can someone explain to me why massages with extras is so popular here? Why do you go RNT instead of FS?

From my perspective, you pay more for less service. Every minute she's got her hands on your back is a minute away from licking / kissing / fucking her.

There's your problem, why are you getting a massage. Straight to part 2 or 3.
If I want a good massage I go and see my regular at a shopping centre and claim on it.

[Abracadabra]

Unfortunately there is no chase as 99% of massage girls offer FS

Is the FS rate really so high.

I have always focussed on FS shops but have been looking to visit RnT for 1st time, drawn in by the intrigue of it all...

I guess it is a $$/value question, but do you go with the objective of FS or is it the the part 2 "chase" with a seemingly more "regular" girl as opposed to the sure thing FS shops "pros" , if you get my drift?

[Kizuraz]

I used to go RnT regularly around CBD, and I'm also wondering the same thing. In my experience, I've only been offered FS once for a ridiculous tip (would've exceed the rate if I had gone straight to FS shop). The chances that a girl won't offer/agree to FS are way too high in my opinion. Even if you get offered a happy ending, there are still high chances that the girls doesn't even let you cop a feel of any kind.
And before anyone wants to say "you're going to the wrong places/asking the wrong girls", then it's not really a chase if you know "the right place/girl"

[11Bravo]

For me, I enjoy the anticipation of what is to come (pun intended). One of these days I should visit a brothel, cutting to the chase. I just like the buildup at an RnT. Maybe I've just spent too much time in BKK.

[tcrawford]

While some guys are claiming thrill of the chase, in reality its just that there is less of a routine in RnT compared to FS joints, it feels less scripted.

[ReginaldBubbles]

The chase I enjoy is when a legit massage girl agrees to provide a happy ending. It is the thrill of the chase, and very few end up agreeing, but it does happen.


Dude you're just sexually harassing women in their workplace. Just go to an RnT for fucks sake.

[gco0307]

Have always been an RnT person over FS.

For me, generally with massage you get touch, some serious sensuality at times and in many ways, just a relaxing time and often by being respectful of the ladies you get or can get some serious teasing by the lady of yourself. The touch changes, the places they touch get cheekier. They can edge or build up the teasing aspect, and they do not need to be naked to do this as sometimes the clothing can be used to heighten the touch sense and of course, at some point if they choose to get naked (if you have taken up that extra) then they often tease a strip.

And, among it all many of the RnT girls I have visted can bloody well massage and do it well. I leave releaxed in more ways than teh obvious as so often aching muscles have been treated.

I should also clarify, that I only visit RnT shops and have at times picked wrong and visited a straight massage only service. When I have done this there is no push to do things as the lady simply does not provide extras - all good. I relay on the lady whom I am being massaged by to drop the hint of extras are on the table and this has served well and given me a small selection of good places with some very nice experiences

For me, touch, sensuality, sexiness and whiel that can be there with FS, I have never left a massage feeling less than relaxed but have done after some FS (many years back)

[Soton]

There are quite a few reasons but I would say the most important one is the cost of a dud punt.
Dud punt at an RnT - loss of $70 - $120.
Dud punt at mid class FS shop (ginza, n5m, etc) - $160 - $350

Forgetting that the other reasons are.
1. My reg MLs (3 or 4) all start with part 2 & 3 so it is just like going to an FS Shop without a bed (beds are over rated anyway) and cheaper.
2. Variety and sampling - I can check out a chick for $120 p/h and decide if I want to do more with her or not depending how we get on
3. FS is a bit over rated. I really like to see a chick squirming and bucking when I go down on her. Brings me more pleasure than jack hammering at her cooch. So for anywhere from $170 - $220 I can spend an hour teasing and licking a sexy little early 20's babe with a tight taut body and watch her slurp on my cock with the option to fuck her if I really feel like it.
4. Sometimes it is nice to relax for 20-30 mins while young chicky massages and caresses me while telling all about her latest holiday or what she did last weekend before turning over for whatever I am in the mood for.

However , if you are looking for FS and more like Anal then you are better off going to a FS shop rather than risking an ML who offers FS not offering it to you.
You have to be prepared for some failures at an RnT.
I cannot recall any ML offering me anal since doing the local member for the Penrith areas daughter on the floor in a St Marys RnT many many years ago (BB of course)
Man was she a dirty little whore.
Lack of showers and hygiene products at many RnT shops are the main disincentive nowadays. I simply would not risk it.

[HitNMiss]

With a RnT place you can find some girls come from a legit massage shop and want to try the RnT shop instead of a brothel as they can limit what they want to do for extra cash , instead of having to have sex with every guy that chooses her . If I get lucky and we click I can get just about everything I get from a brothel and feels more of a gfe .

[andrewv]

Dude you're just sexually harassing women in their workplace. Just go to an RnT for fucks sake.

Hey @ReginaldBubbles, I can't let you get away with that wrong comment in reply to mine.
No "sexual harassment of women in their workplace", buddy.
It's building rapport, and if the dialgue is positive you proceed to hinting and suggesting. That's all. Some girls say "no" and you don't press further.
It might be too difficult for you to decipher this, so please go away.

[Dantaclaus]

I partake in both. The reasons I sometimes prefer RnT over FS is that MLs tend to be younger and hotter than WLs; sometimes I don't want to spend the extra money; sometimes I'm too drunk and/or tired to want FS.

After a few minutes of CG most WLs want to be on the bottom to conserve their energy. Plus a HJ with a mouth full of tit will always get me over the line when drunk unlike FS.

[Somebeardyfella]

I do this to chill out and relax, and massages with rnt are way more relaxing than a FS

[mat29127692]

I like the anticipation and transition from
Part 1 to 2 and then to 3 with a ML .
Love the build up to that as well .
Ofcourse not all ML offer part 3 and for some you need to work on my building rapport and knocking down their barriers over a few sessions.

[OLD SNAKE]

Everyone is different and they have different preferences, some people like Full Service, others like Massage Service with different type of Happy Endings, HJ, NHJ, BJ, BBJ, FS,
i find to get best value for money i would go to a private or a FS shop that offers everything for a fixed price rather paying for each part separately,
1 hour $150-$160 FS, which can be broken down to a relaxing nude massage, follow by a Bj than into fS
in a massage shop $70 a hour massage, than pay for extras for the last 10-15 minutes, FS $100, NHJ $50, NBJ $80, so no matter what you chose expect a minimum $130 price tag

[ColesBag]

Some times I just want to lay back & get a nice relaxing massage. Even if it does end up as FS & I'm not fussed if it does I like them to ride my cock whilst I lay there also.

[wanwan88]

Into RnT more than FS.
Able to relax, chat to the ML, and see what they will offer instead of knowing straight up what your paying for

[tcrawford]

It's a bit of an adventure, during the massage its that build up of excitement for the main event. With FS, you walk in, get undressed, jump in shower, have sex, done. I have done both regularly and I always come back to RnT as its more fun.

[1inchguy]

Personal preference. My experience is a hit and miss with FS shops.
Initially i went to FS shops but they're mature/older chinese mums or grannies that either rush service or starfish. I remember seeing this mature wl and she had a note book keeping a tally on how many customers see saw during the day.
Sometimes the boss gives them no lunch.
I concluded that if i want to see more younger attractive girls i may need to venture out towards the city which i hardly go plus the rates is high.
Eventually i went on to try massages and i found the experience is much better. Even if no FS, the hard massage i received was worth it.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Hey @ReginaldBubbles, I can't let you get away with that wrong comment in reply to mine.
No "sexual harassment of women in their workplace", buddy.
It's building rapport, and if the dialgue is positive you proceed to hinting and suggesting. That's all. Some girls say "no" and you don't press further.
It might be too difficult for you to decipher this, so please go away.

Making a woman uncomfortable in her workplace with unwanted sexually suggestive comments and requests is sexual harassment buddy.
You said you do it because it gives you a thrill but it's just creepy.

[diligent]

Well, times are tough. Inflation is real. Most FS shop are increasing the price. $270-$350+ and 50-80% chances that you feel that its is not value for money anymore. It can be that the punt was dud. Meanwhile in RnT. You can get a good massage, and a release as well at almost 1/2 of a FS price. The girls are also cheerful and fun, which gives it a more "genuine" connection.

ALSO BECAUSE IVE BEEN READING TOO MUCH AHLUNGOR RnT REVIEW. I THINK HIS MIDDLE NAME IS JOSE BECAUSE HE FINISHED BY SPANISHING ALL THE CHICKS IN RnT. SO I ALSO WANT TO DO WHAT AHLUNGOR DID.

[spacekid2022]

RnT is less mechanical...(if u go to the right place) and theres the extra joy when you manage to get a gd deal =P!

[andrewv]

Making a woman uncomfortable in her workplace with unwanted sexually suggestive comments and requests is sexual harassment buddy.
You said you do it because it gives you a thrill but it's just creepy.

Who told you they’re uncomfortable? You obviously don’t know the difference between seduction and harassment. If you offer a massage girl $100 for extra benefits and she accepts, is that harassment?
If you make the offer and she declines it and you don’t do anything more, is that harassment.
If you enjoy a friendly seductive dialogue with a girl, is that creepy?
Why don’t you go to hell and just piss of away from my posts.

[ReginaldBubbles]

If you make the offer and she declines it and you don’t do anything more, is that harassment.
If you enjoy a friendly seductive dialogue with a girl, is that creepy?


In her workplace yes. Would you offer a waitress $100 for extra benefits? And you did say the offer is rarely accepted. Of course you're the customer so they're going to pretend it's all cool and that it doesn't happen multiple times a day but afterwards probably bitch about you to her workmates.

Fuck you're sensitive though, I hate to think how you handle rejection!

[tcrawford]

Because its the wrong type of shop, if the joint is a legit massage then yes its inappropriate and harassment.

Punters become desensitised to this stuff, that's why some here see a hot girl in public and wonder if she might be a working girl in her spare time.

[Trampoline]

Thanks your view makes sense

[ColesBag]

Punters become desensitised to this stuff, that's why some here see a hot girl in public and wonder if she might be a working girl in her spare time.

That seems like projection.

[andrewv]

In her workplace yes. Would you offer a waitress $100 for extra benefits? And you did say the offer is rarely accepted. Of course you're the customer so they're going to pretend it's all cool and that it doesn't happen multiple times a day but afterwards probably bitch about you to her workmates.

Fuck you're sensitive though, I hate to think how you handle rejection!

You would be surprised how many massage girls transition from legit/pure massage, to getting an extra $50 to $100 for 10 minutes of "happy ending". And no I would not offer a waitress any money for sex.

[ReginaldBubbles]

You would be surprised how many massage girls transition from legit/pure massage, to getting an extra $50 to $100 for 10 minutes of "happy ending".

Go and see them then.


And no I would not offer a waitress any money for sex.

Good because it's basically the same thing.

[GoldfishMan]

Well, times are tough. Inflation is real. Most FS shop are increasing the price. $270-$350+ and 50-80% chances that you feel that its is not value for money anymore. It can be that the punt was dud. Meanwhile in RnT. You can get a good massage, and a release as well at almost 1/2 of a FS price. The girls are also cheerful and fun, which gives it a more "genuine" connection.

ALSO BECAUSE IVE BEEN READING TOO MUCH AHLUNGOR RnT REVIEW. I THINK HIS MIDDLE NAME IS JOSE BECAUSE HE FINISHED BY SPANISHING ALL THE CHICKS IN RnT. SO I ALSO WANT TO DO WHAT AHLUNGOR DID.
Lol, too funny!

[GoldfishMan]

You would be surprised how many massage girls transition from legit/pure massage, to getting an extra $50 to $100 for 10 minutes of "happy ending". And no I would not offer a waitress any money for sex.
Leave it bro. He's an extremely reticent man with his own version of reality. You'll never win this argument.

I'm sure he's enjoying what he's created for himself.

[aussiegaigin]

It's a personal choice or decision.

We shouldn't have to explain it of justify it to others.

[warwick1]

It's a personal choice or decision.

We shouldn't have to explain it of justify it to others.

Amen to that...........

[rooter]

They are totally different experiences. Different energy, different vibe.
Some go for one, some go for the other, some go for both.
It's all good.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Leave it bro. He's an extremely reticent man with his own version of reality. You'll never win this argument.

I'm sure he's enjoying what he's created for himself.

Not sure what you mean but maybe look up the word reticent.

[1inchguy]

Wait how is seeing a waitress and seeing a ml the same thing?

[fapmaster69]

MLs are better at HJ than FS ladies.

FS ladies have a whole selection of tools available to make you cum

ML soemtimes only have their hands. Which leads them to becoming very good at using them...

[jj12345]

Also massahe is less std risky

[ReginaldBubbles]

Wait how is seeing a waitress and seeing a ml the same thing?

I was comparing a waitress with a legit ml not a "ml".

[rubit moore]

After reading this I went out for lunch today and got chatting with this hot Asian waitress. All the signs were there; attentive, what would I like etc so after ordering, plucked up the courage - asked the waitress if there were any extras available. I got a bowl of peas and some hot chips.

[spir55]

I have thought the same. The difference between the ML shop and FS shop is the frequency of new ladies. The FS shop tend to have more new ladies (variety/age) through out the year compared to ML shop. Some ML shop do have new ladies but don't advertise on this platform. The FS shop ladies will offer services that the ML shop cannot.

The price is going up in the FS and the price will eventually go up in the ML shop.

Suppose it is a choice if you want to have sex with a younger female at a FS shop or the same ML you have been seeing for number of years.

[ReginaldBubbles]

After reading this I went out for lunch today and got chatting with this hot Asian waitress. All the signs were there; attentive, what would I like etc so after ordering, plucked up the courage - asked the waitress if there were any extras available. I got a bowl of peas and some hot chips.

Dude she wanted it! Should've seduced harder.

[Massagecreep]

Deniability - I was just going for a massage

[AHLUNGOR]

ALSO BECAUSE IVE BEEN READING TOO MUCH AHLUNGOR RnT REVIEW. I THINK HIS MIDDLE NAME IS JOSE BECAUSE HE FINISHED BY SPANISHING ALL THE CHICKS IN RnT. SO I ALSO WANT TO DO WHAT AHLUNGOR DID.

Hey brother diligent


Didn’t see your post until this morning , you are too funny man 😂🤣

With all you Ginza records, I WANT TO DO WHAT DILIGENT DID actually!

It’s been a while since I had a decent Spanish completion, missed my Spanish Queen Cherry 🍒 oh so very much.

Happy Easter ending everyone

Cheers

[AHLUNGOR]

Have always been an RnT person over FS.

For me, generally with massage you get touch, some serious sensuality at times and in many ways, just a relaxing time and often by being respectful of the ladies you get or can get some serious teasing by the lady of yourself. The touch changes, the places they touch get cheekier. They can edge or build up the teasing aspect, and they do not need to be naked to do this as sometimes the clothing can be used to heighten the touch sense and of course, at some point if they choose to get naked (if you have taken up that extra) then they often tease a strip.

And, among it all many of the RnT girls I have visted can bloody well massage and do it well. I leave releaxed in more ways than teh obvious as so often aching muscles have been treated.

I should also clarify, that I only visit RnT shops and have at times picked wrong and visited a straight massage only service. When I have done this there is no push to do things as the lady simply does not provide extras - all good. I relay on the lady whom I am being massaged by to drop the hint of extras are on the table and this has served well and given me a small selection of good places with some very nice experiences

For me, touch, sensuality, sexiness and whiel that can be there with FS, I have never left a massage feeling less than relaxed but have done after some FS (many years back)


Very well said brother gco

From another foundation member 👏👏

[asiafever]

Horses for courses. Some days I want a massage, a bit of a chat, and a sensual wank from a hot girl, some days I'm in the mood to cut the crap and know what I'm getting, other times I like the "what will it be today" of walking in to an unknown massage shop and seeing what happens etc.That's punting, only wanting to fuck is kind of boring all the time for me, variety is truly the spice of life. There is also the variable of time vs availability. Sometimes you realise your only chance of a punt for the foreseeable future is the shop closest to you at that given moment, and so whether it is massage or fs, it's kind of take it or leave it, and yes sometimes you walk out wondering why you bothered but that's life.

[storry_teller]

Who told you they’re uncomfortable? You obviously don’t know the difference between seduction and harassment. If you offer a massage girl $100 for extra benefits and she accepts, is that harassment?
If you make the offer and she declines it and you don’t do anything more, is that harassment.
If you enjoy a friendly seductive dialogue with a girl, is that creepy?
Why don’t you go to hell and just piss of away from my posts.
Agreed. It’s creepy, mate.

[wanwan88]

After reading this I went out for lunch today and got chatting with this hot Asian waitress. All the signs were there; attentive, what would I like etc so after ordering, plucked up the courage - asked the waitress if there were any extras available. I got a bowl of peas and some hot chips.

Brilliant, please tell us you at least got dipping sauce on the side!!! Hahah

[Massagecreep]

I’d be looking for home delivery!!

[iHurricane]

Why can't we have both? I like the sensual experience, touch and anticipation that comes from RNT massage.
Sometimes when I'm feeling extra horny and just need to get laid, I go to a FS shop but the ratio is like 10 to 1.
1 times to a RNT shop
1 time to a FS shop