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seina
18-04-2023, 12:14 PM
Trying to get back into shape by losing a few kilos and heard about the 'miracle' Ozempic drug that helps with weight loss. Does anyone have any tips on how we can get our hands on this easily?

My local GP won't prescribe this unfortunately. Have used websites online for Viagra that were recommended here before with great experience.

rooter
18-04-2023, 12:23 PM
Ozempic was originally prescribed for Diabetes.
Then after a few social media posts recommending it for weight loss went viral lots of people started using it for weight loss.
This has led to a shortage so that people with Diabetes who need it urgently can't access it.
So I reckon you will find it very difficult to get a doctor to prescribe it for you for weight loss and you will find it very hard to buy it online now.

max_power
18-04-2023, 12:33 PM
https://www.tga.gov.au/safety/shortages/information-about-specific-shortages/about-ozempic-semaglutide-shortage-2022-and-2023

distanceRunner
18-04-2023, 03:58 PM
Trying to get back into shape by losing a few kilos and heard about the 'miracle' Ozempic drug that helps with weight loss. Does anyone have any tips on how we can get our hands on this easily?

My local GP won't prescribe this unfortunately. Have used websites online for Viagra that were recommended here before with great experience.

I can attest that you can’t beat a solid training regime & decent nutritional plan.

Would highly look into doing that rather than a miracle drug of some sorts,

dotcumdotinyou
18-04-2023, 04:19 PM
I heard they recently included "wegovy" on the pbs, apparently same as "ozempic" but for weight loss. Haven't had a chance to talk to my GP about it yet.

OLD SNAKE
19-04-2023, 01:08 PM
September last year i was 145kg, today my weight is 110kg, this is my 2008 weight, clothes went from 5xl to 2xL which is good for me being 51 years old, my goal is to reach 100kg which will be my 2000 weight, but i was still doing kickboxing and muay thai then, to loose the weight i just walk one hour per day, and watch my diet, no carbs, no sugars, low salt, no process foods, no alcohol, soft drinks or cigarets but lots of coffee to poo in the morning,
i just eat plain healthy food, lean protein, with salad or veggies, also with 2 eggs a day, and i blend fruit to make my own juice and smoothies,
i have drooped my blood pressure which was 170/120 to 110/90 which saved my life

Jesus666
19-04-2023, 01:28 PM
i have drooped my blood pressure which was 170/120 to 110/90 which saved my life

Great to hear ! that 170/120 was blood vessel bursting area.

OLD SNAKE
19-04-2023, 01:51 PM
Jesus i had a block artery to the heart and had a stem put in, i kind of gave up in life after my wife passed away from cancer, and just drank and smoked feeling sorry for my self,
now that i have a second chance in life i am not going to waste it,

675r
19-04-2023, 01:59 PM
Good work mate - keep it going

OLD SNAKE
19-04-2023, 07:34 PM
thanks 675r, will do

DogBouy
19-04-2023, 08:34 PM
Only giving it out under PBS to Type 2 Diabetes patients. If you want it I believe its about $1500pm. I would rather use those funds for punting and panting.

asiafever
19-04-2023, 08:43 PM
People lose like 6 kilos in 26 weeks, that's hardly a miracle. Why waste your money? My ex-sister in law lost more than that in 10 weeks from intermittent fasting, and she was hardly a chonker. Not that I'm recommending that either, I'm just saying why pay money to put a drug you don't need, that no doubt has side effects, in your body when it really doesn't have "miraculous" effect?

Climax598
19-04-2023, 09:50 PM
September last year i was 145kg, today my weight is 110kg, this is my 2008 weight, clothes went from 5xl to 2xL which is good for me being 51 years old, my goal is to reach 100kg which will be my 2000 weight, but i was still doing kickboxing and muay thai then, to loose the weight i just walk one hour per day, and watch my diet, no carbs, no sugars, low salt, no process foods, no alcohol, soft drinks or cigarets but lots of coffee to poo in the morning,
i just eat plain healthy food, lean protein, with salad or veggies, also with 2 eggs a day, and i blend fruit to make my own juice and smoothies,
i have drooped my blood pressure which was 170/120 to 110/90 which saved my life
You miss one important thing punting. That should lower your weight. The girls will love you more with your low weight especially you are on top. Did you see any difference on your bones and stamina in fucking.

OLD SNAKE
19-04-2023, 10:14 PM
climax598, 100% improvement in all departments, i notice my feet also got smaller and my one eye squirter got bigger and i can see the bugger while i take a piss now

tcrawford
19-04-2023, 11:55 PM
September last year i was 145kg, today my weight is 110kg, this is my 2008 weight, clothes went from 5xl to 2xL which is good for me being 51 years old, my goal is to reach 100kg which will be my 2000 weight, but i was still doing kickboxing and muay thai then, to loose the weight i just walk one hour per day, and watch my diet, no carbs, no sugars, low salt, no process foods, no alcohol, soft drinks or cigarets but lots of coffee to poo in the morning,
i just eat plain healthy food, lean protein, with salad or veggies, also with 2 eggs a day, and i blend fruit to make my own juice and smoothies,
i have drooped my blood pressure which was 170/120 to 110/90 which saved my life

Sounds like you are doing everything right except for the coffee. One thing I wouldn't do is blend fruit, although blending is a lot better than juicing leaving the fibre behind.

When you drink calories in liquid form, the stomach doesn't send the same signals to the brain of fullness as consuming whole foods. It's also too easy to consume too many fruits and other stuff when blending.

Chattyjay
20-04-2023, 12:36 AM
climax598, 100% improvement in all departments, i notice my feet also got smaller and my one eye squirter got bigger and i can see the bugger while i take a piss now

Hope you don’t mind me asking. But has the size got bigger?

Fred Flintstone
20-04-2023, 08:15 AM
Many of us old fuckers need to eat less carbs and lift heavy weights at the gym.

Try and cut out bread, pasta, rice, cakes and other high starchy shit. The weight will just drop off.

Then go to the gym and focus on six core compound exercises:
1. Chin-ups
2. Bench press
3. Bent over row
4. Dead lift
5. Overhead press
6. Squats

If you don’t get fit after 6-9 months of this routine, I will pay you for a year of mongering

OLD SNAKE
20-04-2023, 09:25 AM
tcrawford its true in what you are saying, thats why you need to balance out your calories, but its also about eating healthy and not putting toxic food into your body as fuel to burn when you are exercising, plus you learn to down size your meal size to shrink the stomach, as far as coffee goes most people are grumpy and don't function politely without it and i am one of those people, especially after giving up alcohol and cigarettes

OLD SNAKE
20-04-2023, 09:35 AM
100% agree i have cut the carbs from my diet, lower my food intake, but just power walk to raise my cardio, and loose the weight,
i am just starting a medicine ball routine to help tighten the body to build muscle,

Axeman123
20-04-2023, 09:35 AM
tcrawford its true in what you are saying, thats why you need to balance out your calories, but its also about eating healthy and not putting toxic food into your body as fuel to burn when you are exercising, plus you learn to down size your meal size to shrink the stomach, as far as coffee goes most people are grumpy and don't function politely without it and i am one of those people, especially after giving up alcohol and cigarettes If I'm a bit late getting that first coffee hit I seriously get headspins n nods. That first sip is instant bliss.

OLD SNAKE
20-04-2023, 09:41 AM
If I'm a bit late getting that first coffee hit I seriously get headspins n nods. That first sip is instant bliss.

100% i would make capsule coffee to drink in the car just to drive to the coffee shop to buy another coffee to drink at my desk, so when the 9am rush happened i was well prepared for the day

dannyboy
20-04-2023, 02:37 PM
In the USA they have billboards everywhere advertising this ozempic for weightloss, I'm sure they'll sell millions of doses over there...

rooter
20-04-2023, 02:47 PM
People are always looking for an easy fix.
If you are morbidly obese then yes for sure you need to take drastic action and any drug or surgery will be good for you.
But if you just have a beer gut, or carrying a few extra kilos then the solution is the same boring shit we don't want to hear but we all know we have to do.
Stop or reduce alcohol, stop junk food, stop processed food, stop snacking, do some exercise, lift some weights etc etc.
This boring shit actually works!

Magictits8
20-04-2023, 06:59 PM
To make it more interesting, I recommend ppl make a program where for each day that involves no snacks and junk food, equals one punt reward.

User1234
20-04-2023, 10:38 PM
Trying to get back into shape by losing a few kilos and heard about the 'miracle' Ozempic drug that helps with weight loss. Does anyone have any tips on how we can get our hands on this easily?

My local GP won't prescribe this unfortunately. Have used websites online for Viagra that were recommended here before with great experience.

It's available through underground similar to how I get a hold of Cialias and Viagra but I can't PM you.

I would actively encourage you to hit the gym and track your food first and then track your steps as you'll get much more benefit out of that than Ozempic however combining will yield great results after 3 months.

FYI the studies in groups losing double digit weight loss were longer term use with a higher dose than what everyone starts on so you have to be prepared to sink some time and money into it to yield results.

tcrawford
22-04-2023, 11:17 AM
People are just lazy, all these "supplements" have some kind of penalty you will have to pay. Stop being a little bitch and just go work out, nothing worse than being a basic man and you know all the girls are thinking this when they see you naked.

Cookytim
29-04-2023, 03:04 PM
If you've got a good doctor, get on the duromine....It works,
and also helps motivate you to do your exercising which to be honest, you dont really need to over do it, you just need to be moving or do something active as much as possible. Oh, contrary to what tcrawford said coffee is actually a massive bonus

User1234
30-04-2023, 12:17 AM
If you've got a good doctor, get on the duromine....It works,
and also helps motivate you to do your exercising which to be honest, you dont really need to over do it, you just need to be moving or do something active as much as possible. Oh, contrary to what tcrawford said coffee is actually a massive bonus

Duromine can send people loopy. I'd recommend coffee and acetyl-l-carnitine before Duromine.

tcrawford
30-04-2023, 12:28 AM
Oh, contrary to what tcrawford said coffee is actually a massive bonus

He said he drinks a lot of coffee, too much coffee will reduce your sleep quality.

Sher1888
30-04-2023, 09:31 PM
Meat and eggs and veg 2x per week. You need to workout.

tcrawford
30-04-2023, 10:04 PM
What about the rest of the week? That's everyday food for me.

675r
30-04-2023, 11:11 PM
In the USA they have billboards everywhere advertising this ozempic for weightloss, I'm sure they'll sell millions of doses over there...

In 2022, the US accounted for 65% of world wide sales of Ozempic. 39 billion DKK out of 60 billion DKK total sales.
See page 61 annual report. https://www.novonordisk.com/content/dam/nncorp/global/en/investors/irmaterial/annual_report/2023/novo-nordisk-annual-report-2022.pdf

l337dude
01-05-2023, 01:41 PM
Bro just dont eat, its 100% proven success rate and its free

I think the technical term for that is "intermittent fasting", yes it definitely works, but it's not easy, but it's still way better than those 'miracle' weight loss drugs, doing it the natural way is always better, i.e. exercise + calorie control.

Another thing I wanna add, if you lose too much weight too quickly, your hormones may crash and your sex drive will tank...do it slowly and consistently.

Nasteme
01-05-2023, 05:20 PM
100% agree i have cut the carbs from my diet, lower my food intake, but just power walk to raise my cardio, and loose the weight,
i am just starting a medicine ball routine to help tighten the body to build muscle,

Ever since I got a dog I've lost 22 kg.

The dog is literally forcing me an hour of power walk every evening.

These days my legs can keep up with the dog and walk even further.

I highly recommend it.

Vader
01-05-2023, 06:24 PM
Just look after yourself and don't get fat in the first place. Prevention is always better than the cure as they say

l337dude
04-05-2023, 05:11 PM
intermittent fasting in itself is a form of calorie restriction (in most cases), depending on what kind of fasting window you wanna use, the larger fasting window will typically result in greater calorie deficit :) The topic of diet/nutrition and exercise for weight loss is a massively complicated topic (hormonal response, metabolism, autophagy, mTOR reduction etc) so let's just leave it at that :)

tcrawford
04-05-2023, 06:36 PM
It's harder to build build muscle with intermittent fasting and if you are starting out you are better to lock in those newbie gains ASAP, the more muscle you have the higher your metabolic rate is. Intermittent fast is just going to make you skinny with no muscle. Sure you can build some muscle in the newbie gain phase by just hitting your daily protein count in the eating window but its not going to be optimal for protein synthesis.

You can easily hit 12% body fat with just walking 10,000 steps a day, resistance training (keep it simple with a compound upper and lower split) and not eating crap.

Magictits8
04-05-2023, 10:06 PM
Anyone here wears a HR monitor chest strap during punts? There was one WL who thought I had some sort of hidden camera device.

l337dude
04-05-2023, 10:54 PM
Intermittent fasting is when you dont eat for a peroid of time, caloric deficit is when your intake of calories is lower then your maintenance creating a deficit and causing weight loss.
Intermittent fasting is a tool you can use. But it doesnt create the deficit, diet does. You can intermittent fast then pig out and it makes no difference

Self awareness and body awareness.

All this crap (hormonal response, metabolism, autophagy, mTOR reduction etc) isnt to do with weight loss(its not going to help a newbie) its topics you should look into if your getting into fitness....for a newb sticking to a diet, small changes to life style and regular exercising is the best.

So that means,
Diet plan
Cutting out fast foods/getting out more doing active social stuff
Exercise routine
And most important CONSISTENCY.

Intermittent fasting is just a tool, of course it's not going to automatically reduce calories (also if you pig out nothing will work...), but the idea behind IF is that it will drastically reduce your feeding window so it's EXTREMELY hard to overeat, try eating 3000+ calories in one single meal (OMAD), it's doable but much more difficult (specially if you include lots of vegetable, salads, nut/seeds/fibre, whole grains etc), if someone spreads that meal throughout the day then it becomes much more easier to overeat (let's face it it's not easy for newbies to follow a strict plan), so the multiple small meals theory is flawed if your main goal is weight loss, don't get me wrong it can still be done but with fasting it's just that much easier, there are also other benefits to fasting such as autophagy, improved gut health (assuming you don't pig out of course), improved blood sugar, better insulin sensitivity etc which has everything to do with weight management and better body composition, even longevity.

Exercise is also an important factor, but I won't get into details on which type of exercises are best etc, they all serve different purposes (muscle hypertrophy, strength, endurance, VO2 max etc), when it comes to exercise, consistency is key, just like anything else in life, without consistency even the best plan will fail, consistency trumps everything, of course the simple/general answer to a noob is always to clean up your diet, exercise more etc, which will always work if they stick to it.

l337dude
04-05-2023, 10:58 PM
Anyone here wears a HR monitor chest strap during punts? There was one WL who thought I had some sort of hidden camera device.

LOL I imagine they would be wondering for sure, just tell them it's a medical device for your heart, some WLs are very sensitive about that kinda stuff (hidden cams etc), some WLs will check your glasses lol

l337dude
04-05-2023, 11:54 PM
Improved gut health, improved blood sugar and better body composition isnt achieved by just fasting, fasting is a small contributer and there are much bigger/more impactful factors.
Gut health - this has alot more to do with your diet and balance of bacteria in your stomach than fasting
Improved blood sugar - fasting does help, but once again diet matters more.
Body composition - ok this is not from fasting, this is from repeated exeecise and recovery and having that strain be applied to the long enough to that the body adapts.

Intermittent fasting is good practice but its a small impact (maybe 10%) compared to diet , exercise and proper rest.

Well I think we agree on most of the stuff, IF is just a tool, a good diet in general + exercise is always the bigger picture, if your diet is shit and don't exercise then fasting becomes irrelevant, I've always been a proponent of a long term approach of clean diet + training, I was never a fan of those gimmicks/trendy/fad diets such as keto etc, and I'm not saying IF is the only way to improve gut health etc there are other factors in play (bacteria diversity in the gut, pro+prebiotics etc), but IF definitely helps the gut, someone who eats 8 meals a day vs someone who eats 2 meals a day in a 5 hour feeding window (assuming the diet is the same food), the person doing only 2 meals will have a longer fasting window so the gut can have a break, the problem is constant eating these days (consistent insulin spike), which can lead to blood sugar issues, which can lead to reduced insulin sensitivity or even diabetics, reduced insulin sensitivity = not great for muscle building = worse body composition (less muscle, more bodyfat), ok that's over-simplifying the whole process but you get the idea.

Like I said a long term approach of good clean diet + exercise is always the bigger picture, IF is an useful tool (if used correctly) it can definitely help with weight loss.

Spectra
14-11-2024, 05:05 AM
The other day I saw a receipt for a non generic weight loss drug and it was close to $500 which is a lot but if you’re in that situation and it helps why not? I congratulate people that are trying to loose weight.

A WeChat clip I saw yesterday the woman who was 50yrs plus in age said: “ your body is your canvas, if you’re not happy with it then repaint it”.

She was right, we are in control of our bodies.

Once we realise that anything is possible.

konfuzion
14-11-2024, 10:26 AM
I take ozempic for 8 months now I was kg118 now kg92 sugar 6.7 to 5.2 I pay $32 for 4 weeks

Spectra
14-11-2024, 01:19 PM
Bravo, great effort 26kg!!! Did you plateau at some stages ?

I’m going to find that receipt and see just what the brand was.

Keeping Up
14-11-2024, 01:50 PM
Ozempic is heavily restricted now to diabetes sufferers only. Of course the big pharmas found a way around that. They brought out exactly the same product, called it Wegovy, and private buyers can grab it without problems. Not pbs covered so you would pay a premium but if you look up Chemist Warehouse they sell it for $250 for a months course. I have a few friends that are doing this.

Jesus666
14-11-2024, 01:51 PM
I take ozempic for 8 months now I was kg118 now kg92 sugar 6.7 to 5.2 I pay $32 for 4 weeks

Great effort. I have been on Ozempic for around a year and have gone from 102kg to 86kg. I have had several periods where I simply cannot get it, and like posts in this thread it is often due to 'weight loss' demand patients, not diabetics. My 3 month blood used to be well over 10, now around 7. My pancreas does not do well at making insulin. Recently had DNA tests that indicate I have a certain 'reward' gene for eating that releases Dopamine. Thankfully missed the genes other risks of smoking, alcohol abuse and gambling.

Spectra
14-11-2024, 03:30 PM
Another by positive story and a big congratulations. It’s amazing the results that stuff brings. That script was for someone else the Mounjaro Kwik pen, I knew it had an unusual name $585.

I went up from 90 to 95 and wanted to get back down. Lost 2kg by dropping all sugars and carbs. Excess eating was a problem, going out a lot and eating things I’d never normally eat. So I’ve told my friends no eating for me if I’m going out with them.

We all have our goals and like that lady said, your body is your canvas and you can paint it how you want. Punting being the driving force behind my weight loss.

konfuzion
14-11-2024, 04:37 PM
Bravo, great effort 26kg!!! Did you plateau at some stages ?

I’m going to find that receipt and see just what the brand was.
No big loss now only 200g a week. I want under 80kg and scared to stop using ozempic

Spectra
15-11-2024, 08:50 AM
No big loss now only 200g a week. I want under 80kg and scared to stop using ozempic

That’s what I’m losing now without taking anything. Will power is a hard thing to master as food is just a card swipe away.

ColesBag
15-11-2024, 05:52 PM
Stress is another reason people have trouble losing weight as well. Should be taken into consideration.

Spectra
15-11-2024, 07:14 PM
I didn’t know that and I just read up on it, they say 10lbs a year weight gain just from stress not extra food.

tcrawford
17-11-2024, 05:54 PM
"Ozempic works by mimicking a naturally occurring hormone. As those hormone levels rise, the molecules go to your brain, telling it you're full. It also slows digestion by increasing the time it takes for food to leave the body."

Personally I think it's pointless taking Ozempic. The body stores fat for energy, the fatter you are the more easily the body releases fat for energy since it has it stored in excess, so a fat person should never struggle to burn fat. The opposite is true when you reach really low body fat %, then the body tries to hold onto fat for critical body functions and hormonal balance and instead will slow the metabolism to offset the need to burn fat.

If you need Ozempic to lose weight when you are already over 20-30% body fat, you are mentally weak and that needs to be fixed first because you will never stay slim until you fix the core problem that is in your head. You need to change your mindset towards food and energy and what is required to burn it. For example if you jog at a moderate pace on a treadmill for 30 minutes, that will burn around 300 calories. Now go to the shopping center and see a "healthy" boost juice that's 600+ calories, this is when you have to ask yourself is this drink worth an hour run? The body is extremely efficient at using food for energy. You need to have this conversation in your head every time you consider eating optional food.

Another thing is your priority should be building muscle, losing fat alone is almost fkn pointless. The body is constantly burning and storing fat, we are fat burning organisms. Bringing your fat down alone is a short term solution, you will just put that all back on the moment you lose some discipline. The long term plan is to build muscle which is fat burning tissue. Ozempic seems counter productive to building muscle if its slowing your digesting and suppressing your appetite. If you want to suppress your appetite, eat high volume foods with low calories like steam veggies or a salad, combine that with some protein and you have a perfect meal.

Stop listening to retards that say you must cut carbs, you will lift weights like a pussy without carbs.

Spectra
17-11-2024, 06:50 PM
It depends on where you are on your weight loss journey.

tcrawford
17-11-2024, 08:11 PM
No it doesn't matter where you are, you don't need it. People just want to eat stupidly then take a pill as a work around.

Spectra
17-11-2024, 08:27 PM
What’s the percentage of overweight people in Australia?

tcrawford
17-11-2024, 08:51 PM
Who cares? What's the relevance?

Spectra
17-11-2024, 09:51 PM
13,000,000 people in Australia are obese as of 2022. Not everyone has strong willpower. If they’re willing to try I see no reason in not giving them the help via medication.

I don’t fall into that category so it doesn’t affect me but it concerns me.

We don’t need processed sugar for starters and it’s as addictive as heroin.

tcrawford
17-11-2024, 11:00 PM
The problem with a quick fix is that its a temporary solution that has no long term benefit. You can undo the progress made with the drug the moment you get off it and go back to your old ways. In the end you have wasted money and got nothing out of it.

Developing willpower is an investment in yourself and it gets easier the more you practice it. Eventually it just becomes second nature and your normal way of life. By taking this drug you are robbing yourself of the learning experience you get by losing weight the correct way. Also its not just willpower, most people don't know the correct foods to eat for weight loss too. People will eat foods thinking it is working towards their goal of losing weight, not realising it's not actually a good option, eg. Sushi is a really bad option for weight loss.

Spectra
17-11-2024, 11:11 PM
The saying “your body is a temple” is correct. Todays society is about eating a lot of processed foods and we didn’t evolve doing that hence the obesity epidemic.

The other saying “you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink” is also relevant and people have to want to change.

We live in a push button society and people want a quick fix for everything. I get it and some need weight loss medication to help start them on their journey.

tcrawford
17-11-2024, 11:32 PM
Big pharmaceutical companies tell them they need it so they can make money. Look at the numerous undesirable side effects of this drug, fatigue is listed as one of them. That's exactly opposite of what is needed to be active. It's just another drug for people to become dependent on.

DannyMatov
30-11-2024, 12:31 AM
I’ve been hearing a lot about Ozempic for weight loss lately. From what I’ve gathered, it’s a medication meant initially for diabetes, but it’s now gaining attention for helping with weight loss, too.

Some people rave about it, saying it’s helped them shed pounds, but others mention side effects like nausea or stomach issues. I’d say it’s always a good idea to talk with your doctor first to make sure it’s right for you. If you’re exploring other options like supplements, you might check out purchase steroids (https://steroidscanada.is/), but do your research to ensure everything’s safe and legit.

stallionmachine123
30-11-2024, 09:52 AM
I was 160kg back in 2018 and now sitting at 115 lowest I got to was 110 im fighting struggling to get below 110 every time I do blow out 5-7kg.

Diet is the key I’ve tried high intensity training and cardio but never works if you just consuming high calorie foods such as kfc etc.

I took ozempic for a month didn’t find really it did much for me so I stopped. You can lose weight quickly with proper diet and excercise you don’t even have to push yourself in the gym just some resistance training and get an hour walking a day. I believe in an aggressive cut rather than .5kg a week if you are really obese.

Lots of ppl I know have done bypass surgeries which I would never consider.

Save money on fast food and use that money for a workout at Ginza and fuck hard !

DeltaT
01-12-2024, 12:48 AM
They’re impressive results.

Niceguy11
01-12-2024, 11:52 AM
Ozempic is not the only the drug / medication for weight loss. Opioid medication does the same thing because it suppresses your appetite.