WL vs ML - Expectation and Standards

[Roy.akim]

Do we have the same expectations in terms of level of service/experience we get from a WL vs MLs?

I’ve been seeing an uptake in more negative reviews of MLs recently, and the most common reasons seem to stem from that the services that are “extras” (sometimes paid or assumed to be inclusive) not on par with the level of service or engagement provided by a WL.

Are we just setting the expectations too high for MLs if we hold them to the same level of service as we do WLs.

I guess there’s a lot more YMMV when it comes to ML but should we really fault them when we don’t get what we expect?

[User1234]

Depends on the ML like you said. My biggest frustration with a ML is you pay for part 2 and sometimes this may be a CBJ. They'll get tired of it and pull the cover off after a few minutes and then won't put another on and keep going with a NHJ.

I've noticed the trend in that these girls usually want the money first. I'll just stick to my regular ML now and won't go anywhere else.

[yunglean]

It depends on the shop. Many MLs in the 25-40 range provide services on par with WLs but they're hot enough that they don't have to work in cheaper brothels and make more in massage shops for less work. They can also withhold more services like DFK or CIM and not lose out on too much business.

My general advice is to steer clear from Thai shops if your priority is VFM

[cuteguy]

Depends on the ML like you said. My biggest frustration with a ML is you pay for part 2 and sometimes this may be a CBJ. They'll get tired of it and pull the cover off after a few minutes and then won't put another on and keep going with a NHJ.

I've noticed the trend in that these girls usually want the money first. I'll just stick to my regular ML now and won't go anywhere else.

Many MLs don't want to be providing extras like CBJ or FS for a long time during a massage session. Sometimes they feel frustrated that they can't jerk you off quickly or will say 'when will you come?' Some of us guys are not there to get our rocks off very quickly (i.e. within 5 minutes of being told to turn over) but to enjoy the massage and what comes after. Unfortunately, many MLs see customers all the same. Finish them off quickly and next one.

As for the passing of money, most MLs will wait when the massage part is over before they request the money. Lately, I'm finding many MLs have had kids and their stomachs are not all flat or they have saggy breasts. The MLs will try to hide this before you hand over the money. Guys need to be aware of this.

[Sibon]

Do we have the same expectations in terms of level of service/experience we get from a WL vs MLs?

I’ve been seeing an uptake in more negative reviews of MLs recently, and the most common reasons seem to stem from that the services that are “extras” (sometimes paid or assumed to be inclusive) not on par with the level of service or engagement provided by a WL.

Are we just setting the expectations too high for MLs if we hold them to the same level of service as we do WLs.

I guess there’s a lot more YMMV when it comes to ML but should we really fault them when we don’t get what we expect?

There is a grey and blurry area between MLs and WLs with so many MLs offering FS easily and liberally. I haven't met one ML who doesn't offer FS in recent months although I walked out one fat WL called Yuki in Artarmon 84 in 15 minutes of 1 hour booking. I didn't find that out from her.

[l337dude]

personally I haven't noticed a huge difference tbh, sometimes I get better services from ML, sometimes from WL, some MLs work as a WL somewhere else etc...also depends largely on how new they are, how much experience they have...and whether they are customer focused or if they want a repeat customer vs just get it over with

[cuteguy]

There is a grey and blurry area between MLs and WLs with so many MLs offering FS easily and liberally. I haven't met one ML who doesn't offer FS in recent months although I walked out one fat WL called Yuki in Artarmon 84 in 15 minutes of 1 hour booking. I didn't find that out from her.

There are many MLs not offering FS just CBJ or NHJ. It appears more the case they have boyfriends or partners and don't want to cheat on them by going all the way (sex) but ok with sucking customers' penises. Figure that out.🤣

[l337dude]

There are many MLs not offering FS just CBJ or NHJ. It appears more the case they have boyfriends or partners and don't want to cheat on them by going all the way (sex) but ok with sucking customers' penises. Figure that out.��

Yea I can name a few places where most of the MLs only offer NHJ and maybe CBJ/BBBJ but that's as far as they will go...kinda sucks, I guess it's a punters dream that one day they will offer FS hehe, part of the fun for some punters