Have you ever run seen a lady you knew socially working as a ML?

[Nerius13]

I believe that one of the photos at a certain shop is a friend of a friend. This Thai girl is lovely, she was at my home a few Xmas ago for a bbq and we got along well, we had gone to the fish market that morning to pick out the seafood and she was great company. She drove me wild, but never encouraged anything, being an older guy I never hit on her. I have seen her, socially in the group setting many times. Gone to the beach etc . Now I think it's her in one of the shops. What do you guys think....do I book her, or stop in and see if she is ok with it ? I wouldn't want her to be worried I would out her.

[Daffy]

The phrase “don’t shit where you eat” springs to mind here. And I definitely wouldn’t book her without asking her first.

If you are deadset on doing it, go to the shop when she is on shift and ask for intros. If she doesn’t intro then there is your answer.

[Daffy]

It’s about as awkward as pretending you don’t know the hot South American mum in the group when your kids are playing together in the playground at the local park.

[Nerius13]

Thanks mate, never thought of the intro's.

[Rookiestones]

As hot as it is... Best not to go there. Whether your single or in a relationship. However, if you're hell bent on doing it. Might as well test the waters and make some subtle moves in private (outside the shop), at least you tried. It'll save you money AND it's still going to be awkward anyway as soon as you show your face and expose her in the shop (assuming it's her secret side gig). Good luck!

[Nelly69]

Don't do it, most ML wants to keep their work and private life separate. if you muddy the water, she probably swim somewhere else. Unless you don't give a shit if you see her socially...

[Nerius13]

Yeah Rookiestones you are probably correct. It would make trouble for others so best to leave it alone.

[Nerius13]

Nelly69. Nowadays I see her I infrequently, but she has always been very nice to me, so me bringing that side of her life into the social setting wouldn't be very kind. I will just lust away quietly. GRIN

[Rookiestones]

Nelly69. Nowadays I see her I infrequently, but she has always been very nice to me, so me bringing that side of her life into the social setting wouldn't be very kind. I will just lust away quietly. GRIN

I agree, it's usually lust in these situations. A very tempting one.

It's like a superpower knowing a aspect of someones background unbeknown to them that you have this knowledge.

At least if ever you get lucky and the opportunity comes up, you'll be in safe hands 😏

[cuteguy]

It appears you are friends given your social meetings. By visiting her at the RNT shop would just complicate matters and may make her feel uncomfortable in any social settings with you.

Many MLs do not want to associate with customers (yes guys, they do say this) and prefer to keep their private lives and work separate. Therefore, stay away even if you're very tempted to see her naked. If you met her at the RNT shop and then became friends then it's different. But it's the other way here.

[warwick1]

I don't know about socially, but I ran into one at Coles Chatswood working at the self service checkout, I had seen her a couple of times at 104a, we chatted and had a coffee in her break time, a cute Filipina.........

[Nerius13]

Cute guy. Very good point if it was the other way round, it's different. One of the other Thai women in the group, I think, would get all bent out of shape about it. Not worth the trouble I could cause.

[Nerius13]

I recall a time some ago some girls from a shop I knew saw me in the street and the younger one called out hello. One of them ripped into the other in Thai and apologized my next visit. I said it's ok you can speak to me anywhere anytime. I go to massage shops not ashamed of it or the company I keep. Slowly getting back to it after an illness. I appreciate this forum and the guys on it.

[andrewv]

Remember that both of you have secrets and have equal things to lose if others found out. You don't want your family and friends to know where you go and she doesn't want that either for herself.
If I were you, I would book her then act surprised when in the room (without Mamasan hearing) then I would say, "Look, it's OK if you just want to give me a massage and nothing else. We both have secrets so I promise you I would never ever tell." You might be very surprised how broadminded she is and indeed she might be happy to provide her services to someone she knows.

[Rookiestones]

Remember that both of you have secrets and have equal things to lose if others found out. You don't want your family and friends to know where you go and she doesn't want that either for herself.
If I were you, I would book her then act surprised when in the room (without Mamasan hearing) then I would say, "Look, it's OK if you just want to give me a massage and nothing else. We both have secrets so I promise you I would never ever tell." You might be very surprised how broadminded she is and indeed she might be happy to provide her services to someone she knows.
Then the next dilemma would potentially be, should he take underwear off or keep it on? 😏

[Nerius13]

Hi Andrew, I get you, her privacy has always been a concern. I was thinking of doing what you suggested, but I think leaving the entire thing alone would be wisest. I do like this girl and seeing her as a ML may lead to me crossing the line and wanting to become involved which wouldn't work out for either of us. I am old enough to be her father and she has always been open, chatty and friendly. It would probably creep her out and embarrass us both.

[GoldfishMan]

I would go for it.

First of all, you don’t even know for sure if it was her. If it wasn’t, well, at least you get to act out your fantasy on her.

Second, even if it was her, she’s working the flesh trade, she’s put herself out there. She can’t possibly complain about you being a customer.

Third, that whole “being out in social setting but having to keep a secret about fucking each other”… FMD, that gives me an almighty kick! Been there and done that. It felt like trouble at that time, but now that I look back at it, fark it was an exciting time!

Go for it bro!

[Nerius13]

Goldfishman yes good point. If it isn't her I do get my rocks off lol. As for being in the flesh trade it's still a matter of choice for her as far as I am concerned. I would consider begging her lol. I have no problem keeping my mouth shut among the group and yeah I can see the attraction in knowing and not telling lol. I appreciate all the differing opinions it's good to be able to put these things out to other blokes

[andrewv]

Hi Andrew, I get you, her privacy has always been a concern. I was thinking of doing what you suggested, but I think leaving the entire thing alone would be wisest. I do like this girl and seeing her as a ML may lead to me crossing the line and wanting to become involved which wouldn't work out for either of us. I am old enough to be her father and she has always been open, chatty and friendly. It would probably creep her out and embarrass us both.

If you end up booking her, in addition to what I said above, I would also make her comfortable by saying something like, "Of course we both know that life is much more complicated for everyone than people let know.... and we all have needs. Many people are in your situation and have your needs, and many are in mine too."

The fact that you're thinking about it means that there is attraction and you haven't instantly dismissed the possible situation....

Remember, "you miss 100% of the shots you don't take" (quoting Wayne Gretzky)

[Raybo]

I know a girl in a social circle of mine, just a little. Over the last 5 or so years, she has dated 2 guys in the same social circle. interestingly, these 2 guys 'swapped' girls, so it would seem. Anyway that's another story.

Anyways, was scrolling through E&B and there was an ad, a dead ringer for this girl. I thought, fuck it, had kinda wanted to have a run with her through social circle, but can do it much easier this way.

Finally come to a day where I have time, I send a message to make a booking. After about an hour or so, we had agreed on time. The ad said she was working out of North Sydney/Milsons Point. They eventually send me an address - it is in Surfers Paradise on the Gold Coast! I got the shits with this, started thinking possible bait and switch etc etc. Eventually sent me the right address but by then I had decided to cancel my booking. They in turn got the shits with me and decided to block me for wasting their time!

I still bump into this girl and her boyfriend every few weeks or so. Every time it makes me wonder.

[Nerius13]

Andrew at the time I was very interested in a mutual friend. The three of us would go places etc, but as this girl was the youngest of us all despite the acknowledgement she was young and attractive I was just her friends friend. As things turned out we all drifted a bit apart and my thoughts would always come back to this girl. I was stunned to see her on a rooster and checked photos I have of us together, I am nearly certain it's her. I am caught between wanting to keep happy memories and wanting to go further. The place is not FS. I am just listening to what everyone has to say reaping the benefits of the pooled wisdom.

[waynekerr]

I don't know about socially, but I ran into one at Coles Chatswood working at the self service checkout, I had seen her a couple of times at 104a, we chatted and had a coffee in her break time, a cute Filipina.........

This is sounding a bit sibonesque wouldn't you say? Or is that the point?

waynek

[GoldfishMan]

I know a girl in a social circle of mine, just a little. Over the last 5 or so years, she has dated 2 guys in the same social circle. interestingly, these 2 guys 'swapped' girls, so it would seem. Anyway that's another story.

Anyways, was scrolling through E&B and there was an ad, a dead ringer for this girl. I thought, fuck it, had kinda wanted to have a run with her through social circle, but can do it much easier this way.

Finally come to a day where I have time, I send a message to make a booking. After about an hour or so, we had agreed on time. The ad said she was working out of North Sydney/Milsons Point. They eventually send me an address - it is in Surfers Paradise on the Gold Coast! I got the shits with this, started thinking possible bait and switch etc etc. Eventually sent me the right address but by then I had decided to cancel my booking. They in turn got the shits with me and decided to block me for wasting their time!

I still bump into this girl and her boyfriend every few weeks or so. Every time it makes me wonder.

That’s exactly it, bro. Having that “what if?” hanging around forever is going to be really shitty IMO. I’d rather put the whole matter to bed (sorry for the pun) thanks keep on wondering the rest of my life.

[warwick1]

This is sounding a bit sibonesque wouldn't you say? Or is that the point?

waynek

No I wouldn't say because I don't make up stories, another goose has emerged, you probably look like that total queen "Jason King".......

[Nerius13]

Apt user name it seems......

[11Bravo]

If you know anything about Asians, and especially Thais, you know they are VERY concerned about "losing face". I think you showing up at her place of employment would be a major loss of face for her. Remember, just because a Thai is smiling at you DOESN'T mean they are happy with you. So now she's dreading seeing you at her work, and she's dreading seeing you socially... I'd say a lose-lose situation...

Consider this and how she might feel (this IS Thai culture):
http://www.thai-language.com/forums/t/linguistics/vocabulary/t2286

The definition I like of Krang Jai: your neighbor is burning garbage in their back yard, and the smoke is blowing into your front door. You'd never say anything to the neighbor as you're Krang Jai.

As others have said, if you'd first met her at the MP, it MIGHT be different, but unless she's old and mature, having accepted her job... And even then, in Your (2nd person plural) social circles, even if you are Mr. Cool, I think she'd always be concerned about others finding out in that circle. I don't pretend to even begin to understand Thai culture, and all its INTRICATE convolutions of social status, but a part of it is your job, your family, where you come from... I'm one of those with enough experience to know what I don't know.

Hint: if you ever go there, don't wai - you'll do it wrong as even that simple hand gesture is bound up in social status, job, age, how long you hold it, how high up you hold your hands, etc., etc., etc... I reply with a head nod, unless it's a monk, then I will wai, longer and high up.

Could be wrong, but IMHO, if nothing else, you'd be cutting her out of that civilian social circle...

[Nerius13]

11Bravo, thanks. I think the majority opinion is don't. The girl doesn't need me screwing up her life so I can get my rocks off. They are plenty of other places to go closer to home, I will just avoid that shop. Thanks for your post.

[Sibon]

I believe that one of the photos at a certain shop is a friend of a friend. This Thai girl is lovely, she was at my home a few Xmas ago for a bbq and we got along well, we had gone to the fish market that morning to pick out the seafood and she was great company. She drove me wild, but never encouraged anything, being an older guy I never hit on her. I have seen her, socially in the group setting many times. Gone to the beach etc . Now I think it's her in one of the shops. What do you guys think....do I book her, or stop in and see if she is ok with it ? I wouldn't want her to be worried I would out her.

Don't go.

The fruits on the trees that are unreachable are all the sweeter.

Sex and lust destroy too many dreams.

Better be a dreamer with all the romance than be one of her many paid customers.

[Nerius13]

Sibon. Yeah decided not to go see her.

[11Bravo]

11Bravo, thanks. I think the majority opinion is don't. The girl doesn't need me screwing up her life so I can get my rocks off. They are plenty of other places to go closer to home, I will just avoid that shop. Thanks for your post.For Thais, socializing is REALLY important in their culture (think village life is engrained in their DNA), so jeopardizing something (socializing in your circle of friends) that no doubt she enjoys is not something to be fooled with. Good for you for passing.

I have a number of civilian Thai friends in Sydney, and while not EVERY Thai knows EVERY Thai, their network is rather significant. So I intentionally refrain from Thai shops/Thai ML's just to reduce the chance of any overlap in lives. Paranoid maybe, but I don't want to complicate ANY lives. Given the respect that Thais (and Asians in general) have for the (I say mature, others say old), I'm treated warmly, number call me Papa, but I'm FAR removed from any idea of theirs of partner.

Having travelled extensively in PRC, and NOT blending in, I'm always being asked by women/girls to have a photo with me. I'm always conscious of where my hands are even when they're pulling my arms around them. Makes my head(s) swell :slobber: until the harsh realization that I'm just an asexual prop. Rather crushing on the ole ego.:cry:

[Nerius13]

Thanks to all for your advice. I have decided not to see the lady in question. For the most part your opinions backed up my doubts about the situation. To those that said go ahead, thank you as well, I am not saying you are wrong, but it isn't the right decision for me. Happy punting guys!

[Sibon]

This is sounding a bit sibonesque wouldn't you say? Or is that the point?

waynek

To add a bit more of Sibonesque to this thread...

I wish every beautiful woman I meet socially is a WL so that I could later go and pay and have it out with her. :)

[coomerdoomer]

To add a bit more of Sibonesque to this thread...

I wish every beautiful woman I meet socially is a WL so that I could later go and pay and have it out with her. :)

Your wish is granted, your mother is now a WL

[rubit moore]

Thanks to all for your advice. I have decided not to see the lady in question. For the most part your opinions backed up my doubts about the situation. To those that said go ahead, thank you as well, I am not saying you are wrong, but it isn't the right decision for me. Happy punting guys!

Well I am surprised at this Forum, I thought by now someone would have done the ‘let us know who it is and we’ll report back for you’ or did I just do it? :smile:

[GoldfishMan]

Well I am surprised at this Forum, I thought by now someone would have done the ‘let us know who it is and we’ll report back for you’ or did I just do it? :smile:

How would you know she was hot? from him knowing her in social circles?

Or are you going to get a kick from just making him kinda like a cuck?

[Idkfa]

Saw an advert where the face wasn’t blurred. It was the daughter of a family friend working as a private. Now. Do I tell them or not?

Of course it could be a bait and switch but who knows. I’m certain She’s not popular on social media

[Sibon]

Your wish is granted, your mother is now a WL

I'm sure you are speaking from your family experience.

Thanks for sharing.

Your mother must have sacrificed a lot for you.

She must have been proud of you. :)