Value for money (vfm): ML extras

[Selecta]

Most probably been done already but why not start a new thread for the more recent times.
Whats your best vfm extra that you have achieved in the last say 2 months.
I generally aim for $80 for naked play and lots of finger fun (no bbbj or daty). I will say, i manage to get it about 15 -20% of the time. Usually they go for $100 without much negotiating.
The girls are approx 5\10 to 7\10.

[VFlowers]

Most probably been done already but why not start a new thread for the more recent times.
Whats your best vfm extra that you have achieved in the last say 2 months.
I generally aim for $80 for naked play and lots of finger fun (no bbbj or daty). I will say, i manage to get it about 15 -20% of the time. Usually they go for $100 without much negotiating.
The girls are approx 5\10 to 7\10.

BS & BBBJ for $50.
No discussion or negotiation. Things just progressed and that's what she asked for at the end.

Don't PM me about this, I won't disclose where and who.

[Bucket]

$200 for bbbj natural fs and anal

[Johnnyinnurendo]

$20 for a parmi and a schooner

[Bucket]

$20 for a parmi and a schooner
Cheap mate, good size parmi?

[4FoW2]

Sorry but threads like this, to me, are pointless. BYVMD
Unless posters are prepared to divulge information or at least give hints then, it is, open to story telling and BS.
Hey Johhny Parmi & schooner for $20 where mate - Rocklea Hotel has "lunchsize" Parmi & chips & salad for $18.
You see - detail.
4FoW2

[Nivag71]

Well said 4FoW2

[Bucket]

Sorry but threads like this, to me, are pointless. BYVMD
Unless posters are prepared to divulge information or at least give hints then, it is, open to story telling and BS.
Hey Johhny Parmi & schooner for $20 where mate - Rocklea Hotel has "lunchsize" Parmi & chips & salad for $18.
You see - detail.
4FoW2

I guess if they’re interested they can pm

[gco0307]

Sorry but threads like this, to me, are pointless. BYVMD
Unless posters are prepared to divulge information or at least give hints then, it is, open to story telling and BS.
Hey Johhny Parmi & schooner for $20 where mate - Rocklea Hotel has "lunchsize" Parmi & chips & salad for $18.
You see - detail.
4FoW2

Agreed and to add, that it also opens risks if people do then visit a lady expecting the service or costs someone else has received.

There are many reasons why a lady may have provided a 'bargain' type of service and there is a risk that people may start to expect the same service and start to pressure the lady to 'do the same as X said you did this for this much'.

[harry444]

Maybe threads like this are pointless, but isn't that what this forum is all about. Remove them and parmi and schooner become the main topic of conversation.

[VFlowers]

Sorry but threads like this, to me, are pointless. BYVMD
Unless posters are prepared to divulge information or at least give hints then, it is, open to story telling and BS.
Hey Johhny Parmi & schooner for $20 where mate - Rocklea Hotel has "lunchsize" Parmi & chips & salad for $18.
You see - detail.
4FoW2

For some reason, the OP asked a question for which he obviously would like answers.
If those who are interested and so inclined answer his question truthfully, how is that a 'pissing contest'??

You might find his question pointless, he obviously doesn't.
If you are not interested in his question and the answers that people provide, you don't need to click the thread, you don't need to read, and you also don't need to comment.

If you get extras from a ML at a heavily discounted rate, there is obviously some mutual sympathy involved. And no, we don't want to expose the MLs with whom we have good relationships to harassment from all those interesting people here, some of which don't regard MLs as human, deliberately provoke condom 'accidents', shower once a month, don't accept boundaries, feel entitled because THEY pay the money, use physical violence etc. etc.

[Junkmailman]

VFM for me these days is NHJ from the start then some DATY thrown in for 2P
It's a bonus if she climbs over you and rubs her bits on you a little (just like Ocean did).

[HST]

For some reason, the OP asked a question for which he obviously would like answers.
If those who are interested and so inclined answer his question truthfully, how is that a 'pissing contest'??

You might find his question pointless, he obviously doesn't.
If you are not interested in his question and the answers that people provide, you don't need to click the thread, you don't need to read, and you also don't need to comment.

If you get extras from a ML at a heavily discounted rate, there is obviously some mutual sympathy involved. And no, we don't want to expose the MLs with whom we have good relationships to harassment from all those interesting people here, some of which don't regard MLs as human, deliberately provoke condom 'accidents', shower once a month, don't accept boundaries, feel entitled because THEY pay the money, use physical violence etc. etc.
I agree with not giving out info too readily about a favourite ML who gives a really good rate like the one you mentioned for all the reasons you outlined. Plus she may be able to work out who gave out the info (or at least narrow it down to a couple of candidates) and that would most likely ruin the good thing you have with her.

[Bed Wrecker]

For some reason, the OP asked a question for which he obviously would like answers.
If those who are interested and so inclined answer his question truthfully, how is that a 'pissing contest'??

You might find his question pointless, he obviously doesn't.
If you are not interested in his question and the answers that people provide, you don't need to click the thread, you don't need to read, and you also don't need to comment.


C’mon man, you are spoiling his favourite hobby, pissing and moaning in every thread. Take that away from him and whats left? Longing for the glory days of fs, a steak dinner and rum and coke for a halfpenny…with change?

[Selecta]

Sorry but threads like this, to me, are pointless. BYVMD
Unless posters are prepared to divulge information or at least give hints then, it is, open to story telling and BS.
Hey Johhny Parmi & schooner for $20 where mate - Rocklea Hotel has "lunchsize" Parmi & chips & salad for $18.
You see - detail.
4FoW2
Not pointless at all, if you know how to use info. What it does is allow us bargain hunters to asess the market and know where to start the negotiation. Not all of us have wads of cash to throw. What is pointless is trying to claim the high ground on an anonymous forum🤷🏼

[funinqld]

Thats true and its about getting good service at a reasonable price as its bloody hard in QLD. If the person has stated that they got something really good for a good price they can share it with others that have given them tips if they chose

[Bucket]

Main problem on here is people want your info but offer nothing in return

[Selecta]

Agree, but one has to take the good with the bad i suppose.
This forum isnt going to be everyones cup of tea but its main purpose is for info, what you give and take from it is up to the individual.

[NathanA]

Main problem on here is people want your info but offer nothing in return

i get the feeling a lot of people have someone they call their regular, but they want more, and cheap. they won't tell you who they regular is for fear of overworking theirs but they wouldn't mind doing to yours.

[Bucket]

i get the feeling a lot of people have someone they call their regular, but they want more, and cheap. they won't tell you who they regular is for fear of overworking theirs but they wouldn't mind doing to yours.

Absolutely this is the case

[ococpunt]

I am happy just to get what I pay for these days, vfm was long gone since COVID started...

[Selecta]

I dunno, i can still get some good deals, rare, but they do happen.

[VFlowers]

I dunno, i can still get some good deals, rare, but they do happen.

And do you get those good deals because you are a clever negotiator, or rather because you build some sort of rapport with the ladies, or maybe simply because you're decent looking, clean, polite and respectful?

[darkice]

Not many will want to divulge because VFM is not easy to find.

I've found ones before and I definitely won't say who or where because I wouldn't want to lose that person. Some dick will probably start telling her "but you're giving so and so this for $X."

The other possibility is that you're lucky enough that the ML is only giving you that price/service that it's not worth telling others as it's good chance they won't get.

I've had FS/BBBJ for $100 before but i doubt everyone would get it.

[miiata]

Not many will want to divulge because VFM is not easy to find.

I've found ones before and I definitely won't say who or where because I wouldn't want to lose that person. Some dick will probably start telling her "but you're giving so and so this for $X."

The other possibility is that you're lucky enough that the ML is only giving you that price/service that it's not worth telling others as it's good chance they won't get.

I've had FS/BBBJ for $100 before but i doubt everyone would get it.

yes that is true. i've had FS/BBBJ for free before but i think that was only because i was the last customer for the day for her, and i was sure at that time she was feeling so bloody horny and just needed to get off.

i've gone back to her again after that but did not get the same offer.

[gco0307]

yes that is true. i've had FS/BBBJ for free before but i think that was only because i was the last customer for the day for her, and i was sure at that time she was feeling so bloody horny and just needed to get off.

i've gone back to her again after that but did not get the same offer.

Bit the same with a semi-regular

Was an ML who one time I visited mid-afternoon one Saturday, booked for an hour. Anyway, the shop got busy and she kept apologising and ducking in/out (checking it was ok with me first) so teh hour became 90 minutes, all good. Anyway just before the time was up she asked me not to leave and to stay in thw room while she took care of another customer.

I had been 2 hours or so all up by the time she came back in, walked over to me and kissed my back as I was laying face down and went straight to some tackle tickling while stripping naked and asked me to turn over where she went straight to a BBBJ. This sure got my attention and was very unexpected as on all of my previous visits there was none of this type of action from her at all. So she got me nice and hard, grabbed herself a condom from the dress pocket that was now hung up and put it on using her mouth, keeping me nice and hard. She then simply climed on top of me laying on teh massage table and f*cked me senseless as quietly as we could (she did shush me when we started to go to hard at it) with hardly any words spoken until I blew where she leaned in, kissed me. That done after the kiss she leaned in and lay on top of me, gave me a cuddle thanked me, cleaned both of us up and offered me a shower

Saw her a few times after that and never again, not even close and she never mentioned it netither did I.

Best VFM I experience I ever received.

2.5 hours in the place with 2 opr so hours massage and other fun
Able to listen and hear the fun in the other rooms and while no sex, there was a bit of heavy breathing
Then teh walk to teh shower with her was fun

And all in a massage place - a decent experience all up

[4FoW2]

...can someone start with the phrase "This one time at band camp.......

[Selecta]

...can someone start with the phrase "This one time at band camp.......
Not sure what your point is, but if you dont like this thread, nobodys forcing you to contribute!
Reading some of your previous posts, I honestly cant see why youve taken an exception to this thread 🤷🏼

[Selecta]

And do you get those good deals because you are a clever negotiator, or rather because you build some sort of rapport with the ladies, or maybe simply because you're decent looking, clean, polite and respectful?
Probably a combination of all except for the "good looking" one 😂
Being polite and friendly over a sustained period goes a long way with some ML's. Of course there are some that are hardened business girls and wont budge for anyone...yet.
Im thinking that the coming "belt tightening" may change that, hence, the reason for this thread.

[Herpetology]

Depends on what you want
DM me

[NathanA]

Depends on what you want
DM me

i think it depends on what is on offer, and at what price.

[4FoW2]

Not sure what your point is, but if you dont like this thread, nobodys forcing you to contribute!
Reading some of your previous posts, I honestly cant see why youve taken an exception to this thread ����

Seeing you asked ......Well strangely enough in your own words from a post in this thread " This forum isnt going to be everyones cup of tea but its main purpose is for info"
My point is posters are constantly posting "experiences" and when it comes to the crunch with naming or at least giving hints, they go - oh no I won't share.

To me unsubstantiated stories are not information and thus as stated pointless.

Strangely enough, I see the protest of threads like this a service to punters. Lets keep it real and of use.

And BTW punters who post stories about great service at low prices are surely "trying to claim the high ground on an anonymous forum" not me. Need to check your metaphors.

4FoW2

[carlco777]

Seeing you asked ......Well strangely enough in your own words from a post in this thread " This forum isnt going to be everyones cup of tea but its main purpose is for info"
My point is posters are constantly posting "experiences" and when it comes to the crunch with naming or at least giving hints, they go - oh no I won't share.

To me unsubstantiated stories are not information and thus as stated pointless.

Strangely enough, I see the protest of threads like this a service to punters. Lets keep it real and of use.

And BTW punters who post stories about great service at low prices are surely "trying to claim the high ground on an anonymous forum" not me. Need to check your metaphors.

4FoW2

i've read a lot of your contributions. you are on my approve-and-credible list. don't worry about what others say. continue doing what you do. it's been a pleasure reading your contributions.

[VFlowers]

Seeing you asked ......Well strangely enough in your own words from a post in this thread " This forum isnt going to be everyones cup of tea but its main purpose is for info"
My point is posters are constantly posting "experiences" and when it comes to the crunch with naming or at least giving hints, they go - oh no I won't share.

To me unsubstantiated stories are not information and thus as stated pointless.


And even if people dropped names or hints you would still have no way of substantiating their claims because you have no way of knowing what went on between that user and that ML.

What they get might not be what you would get from a particular ML.
Actually, with the misanthropic attitude you are showing in almost all your posts, I am fairly sure that you won't be getting any 'good deals'...

[darkice]

Thread title doesn't mention saying people should say who the girl is but to just say what you got VFM. So from that perspective it delivers.

If anything, this should help others out there know that a unicorn is possible but rare.

[harry444]

I'm very much against people demanding that forum posts suit entirely their own needs. Get over it. It's an open forum.

[Selecta]

Strangely enough, I see the protest of threads like this a service to punters. Lets keep it real and of use.

And BTW punters who post stories about great service at low prices are surely "trying to claim the high ground on an anonymous forum" not me. Need to check your metaphors.

4FoW2

Ok, so your some kind of self apppointed forum police,...now I get it!
Good luck with that on here 👍

[The Professor]

Of late have been an observer not too much a contributor on the forum, except for all things Lb of course.
Often been watching the stoush between posters quietly chuckling to myself thinking is it more ego or opinion. Another thing which is clearly evident is the intellect of different posters. Trying to get your point across is a futile exercise because some have very closed or empty minds. So 4FoW2, best make your point once then shut up, you can't win against the clowns.

Seems like we have an impass between the "hey tell us the details" group led by 4FoW2 and the others who have the notion " I'm on a good thing why should I tell you"

My question is - what sort of forum do you want? A forum whereby posters tell their stories, true or not, and then refuse to reveal their providers or at least give some hints to where they can be found or do you want a forum whereby posters are willing to detail their success and/ or failures? Which one helps us all achieve our aim?

So in the wash up I would come down clearly with 4FoW2 and support his protests for more disclosure. I mean if everyone had the philosophy of non disclosure what sort of a forum would we have?

If you read my posts or receive my PM's you will know I give detailed descriptions of Lb providers. Why? Because a long time ago posters were willing to share their experiences with me, to which I am eternally grateful.
I'm intrigued that the non disclosure posters never acknowledge that at some time some other posters has given them helpful information. To me they are just selfish, full stop.

Yes this IS an open forum and you can post what you want, but as I said what sort of forum do you want?

Just food for thought.

Puff Puff Prof

[Scotty from Marketing]

Of late have been an observer not too much a contributor on the forum, except for all things Lb of course.
Often been watching the stoush between posters quietly chuckling to myself thinking is it more ego or opinion. Another thing which is clearly evident is the intellect of different posters. Trying to get your point across is a futile exercise because some have very closed or empty minds. So 4FoW2, best make your point once then shut up.

Seems like we have an impass between the "hey tell us the details" group led by 4FoW2 and the others who have the notion " I'm on a good thing why should I tell you"

My question is - what sort of forum do you want? A forum whereby posters tell their stories, true or not, and then refuse to reveal their providers or at least give some hints to where they can be found or do you want a forum whereby posters are willing to detail their success and/ or failures? Which one helps us all achieve our aim?

So in the wash up I would come down clearly with 4FoW2 and support his protests for more disclosure. I mean if everyone had the philosophy of non disclosure what sort of a forum would we have?

If you read my posts or receive my PM's you will know I give detailed descriptions of Lb providers. Why? Because a long time ago posters were willing to share their experiences with me, to which I am eternally grateful.
I'm intrigued that the non disclosure posters never acknowledge that at some time some other posters has given them helpful information. To me they are just selfish, full stop.

Yes this IS an open forum and you can post what you want, but as I said what sort of forum do you want?

Just food for thought.

Puff Puff Prof
Theres no such thing as an open forum.
This board has rules.
Queensland has state laws.
Then you have mls who get threads deleted at the mention of a name, others who move shops and change their names if they get reviewed.
Its a game of chicken sometimes.
The ramifications of them getting identified, harassed and stalked by the lunatics who frequent this forum invisibly are very real
No such ramifications for chickenfucker37 or 4fow2 who are anonymous. The mls arent.

Id love to have a truly open forum, it would be utopia, but ive dealt with enough of the people here to realise whos getting the short straw. It aint us.

Yeah it would be great to have clear service and pricing guidelines from mls and shops, but thats half the fun. Mls having to deal with cheapskates, smellys, violent and repulsive pond scum make it a hard life. Im not shedding too many tears for them. They want the easy life of fucking for good money, they deal with the downside. Most normal girls work 2 jobs or hope to find a bf with money.

The intelligent among us, reveal just enough to get private messages and hope to scour through the pms to find someone worthy of our time and free with their information.

[Herpetology]

True mate OMG It upset Unique Girls as well as all others
With tissue toilet papers left between guys bum crack during a massage WTF guys and you all want free extra LOL
OMG Prices are too high WTF
Guys most of you are too smellys , Please have a shower before you see a girl
Prices will never be discussed here
Unique Herps

Thanks Scotty
'Yeah it would be great to have clear service and pricing guidelines from mls and shops, but thats half the fun. Mls having to deal with cheapskates, smellys, violent and repulsive pond scum make it a hard life. Im not shedding too many tears for them. They want the easy life of fucking for good money, they deal with the downside. Most normal girls work 2 jobs or hope to find a bf with money. '

[VFlowers]

Theres no such thing as an open forum.
This board has rules.
Queensland has state laws.
Then you have mls who get threads deleted at the mere mention of their name, others who move shops and change their names if they get reviewed.
Its a game of chicken sometimes.
The ramifications of them getting identified, harassed and stalked by the lunatics who frequent this forum invisibly are very real
No such ramifications for chickenfucker37 or 4fow2 who are anonymous. The mls arent.

Id love to have a truly open forum, it would be utopia, but ive dealt with enough of the people here to realise whos getting the short straw. It aint us.

Yeah it would be great to have clear service and pricing guidelines from mls and shops, but thats half the fun. Mls having to deal with cheapskates, smellys, violent and repulsive pond scum make it a hard life. Im not shedding too many tears for them. They want the easy life of fucking for good money, they deal with the downside. Most normal girls work 2 jobs or hope to find a bf with money.

The intelligent among us, reveal just enough to get private messages and hope to scour through the pms to find someone worthy of our time and free with their information.

Well said!
I'd also love an 'open' forum where we could post honest and detailed reviews, talk about our experience, exchange tips etc. ...... without any ill effect for anybody. Ask yourselves why this isn't possible!
With the 'contributions' that I am reading from some users here, with the stories I am hearing from MLs, and with the experience I had previously (with my previous profile and user name), there is absolutely NO WAY that I would expose my favourite MLs to that bunch of idiots and A-holes here that unfortunately are part of this forum.

And in this context: I recently learned why a few of the more popular shops on the north side don't use cell phones: Because some of the guys here are so stupid that they try to have detailed discussions about 'extras' via text or WeChat - which of course subjects the shop to a significant risk in case of a visit from law enforcement.

[Selecta]

Another thing which is clearly evident is the intellect of different posters. Trying to get your point across is a futile exercise because some have very closed or empty minds. So 4FoW2, best make your point once then shut up, you can't win against the clowns.
Puff Puff Prof

There is no need to attack a fellow poster by refering to intelect etc.

The way I see it, if one doesn't like someones post (provided its within the forum rules and applicable law) dont bother contributing, or at least be civil about it.

[carlco777]

There is no need to attack a fellow poster by refering to intelect etc.

The way I see it, if one doesn't like someones post (provided its within the forum rules and applicable law) dont bother contributing, or at least be civil about it.

i don't feel it is an attack. it is just a reminder that there are different types of people in this world, and we should not expect everyone to be of the same intellect as us, and so, we should not get angry or upset when seemingly stupid people ask things which already seems clear and obvious to the others.

[VFlowers]

There was nothing that went against the forum rules, just a title that asked for posters most recent experiences, value wise.
There is no need to attack a fellow poster by refering to intelect etc.
The way I see it, if one doesn't like someones post (provided its within the forum rules and applicable law) dont bother contributing, or at least be civil about it.

If you are referring to my latest post, I didn't say that your initial question went against forum rules. I contributed an answer and argued against users who found this thread 'pointless'.
I also did not attack any PARTICULAR forum user - paying attention to the exact wording can be important.

What I am saying is, that in my not so humble opinion, people who approach MLs with forum reviews, or even worse, with what other users have confidentially revealed in PMs, to try and gain a personal advantage with a total disregard for what this might do to MLs and the respective users are idiots, if they do it out of ignorance, or A-holes if they are aware of the possible consequences and don't give a shiny sausage anyway. And I stand by that. Behaviour like that is the reason why fewer and fewer people are willing to share good intel here - about which some users keep complaining.

Also, trying to discuss 'extras' in text conversations, messenger chats or over the phone prior to visiting a shop is idiotic, not only because no ML or shop manager in their right mind will engage in such talk, but also because it can be used against shop owners or MLs in case of a raid. And I won't apologise for this statement either.

[Selecta]

If you are referring to my latest post, I didn't say that your initial question went against forum rules.
Not against you.
I also partially agree with some of your points.

[Selecta]

i don't feel it is an attack. it is just a reminder that there are different types of people in this world, and we should not expect everyone to be of the same intellect as us, and so, we should not get angry or upset when seemingly stupid people ask things which already seems clear and obvious to the others.

Spare me! ..........

[NathanA]

this one did not understand ..............

[Joejohnson8]

I’ve got a suggestion for you all (at least this is how I go about it)…

You can all go and get effed….no one’s opinions matters.

There will be those that will collaborate…know who they are and keep doing it.

There will be those that want to protect the interest of themselves and their mls. Let them do it. Know who they are and move on and tell ‘em to eff off if they tell you otherwise

You aren’t going to get concesus, so just deal with it

[Gentlemanscarfacethird]

Each to their own

[Themassageking]

I've had free blows jobs and sex plenty of times but not in the last year or 2.

[Gavinator]

I've had free blows jobs and sex plenty of times but not in the last year or 2.

not hard to get freebies if you go to clubs and pubs and can chat up a drunk girl.