Standard service at Diamond Tier rates?

[Ghost2hauntU]

We all heard that line “she only does Diamond”.

And this year I’m encountering it increasingly more and more across FS shops in Sydney, shops which this time last year had plenty of WLs willing to do basic service.

Either there are enough punters falling for this bait, or the industry is trying to condition us to pay more.

Honestly, I am fucking sick of this crap. Just last week I paid for top tier service advertised to include shower together, DFK kissing and CIM only to be denied DFK a CIM by the WL. Afterwards, there never seems to be anyone around to complain. Do you ever notice this when you finish?

Sydney punting is turning to garbage lads, and it’s only a matter of time before punters catch on to these sneaky tactics. Like what the fuck do they take us for??!

I’m now going back to basics. One price shops only. If that fails I’m out.

[GoldfishMan]

I don't think there are any shops still doing "real" tiered service these days, are there? What I mean by real tiered service is you can pick a girl and pick a service tier.

As far as I know, only N5M and 42G offered this type of tiers, but people started realising it was a good way to get away with paying less because the girls just ended up giving the same service no matter what tier was chosen, so they stopped doing that.

Now all the shops I know will only offer one tier per girl. That makes the tier redundant. The price is just "this girl and her services". Doesn't matter that they call it.

[carmen farquis]

Better to just pay the shop standard and if you have to tip the girl for extra services yourself.

Some of the less honest owners probably don't even tell the girls what you paid for

[F0x]

Some of the less honest owners probably don't even tell the girls what you paid for

It's legit probably this.

The girls get told they have a customer asking for basic, but customer paid for diamond.

Shop takes the extra cut, the girls never know

[Hidden Python]

I mention this before, what was once standard practice is now considered a diamond service, and the prices will continue to inflate if you continue to pay extra for these non existing services, and at the moment some of the standard prices are matching those of a private escort in a beautiful city apartment

[personaa]

All services are on discretion of individual providers. Shop only rents out the room. Go figure out what it means : This is what you pay, what goes in the room has nothing to do with us, in other words, you have been taken for a ride!.

[kamo]

I’ve always been a one price shop punter. Service is sometimes hit, sometimes it’s miss, but the price is what the price is.

I’ve never been able to understand the thinking of other punters who eagerly go for silver/diamond/gold/platinum/ruby service which just seems to be arbitrary pricing that sucks people into paying top dollar for a WL that sees you as an easy mark for her discretionary inconsistent service.

There’s a term that’s recently become very popular and that term is “simp”.

My unpopular opinion, don’t care, downvote me, whatever.

[GoldfishMan]

Which shops actually offer these tiered services now? Honest question. All I've been seeing are girls that are advertised as one tier or another. You can't actually book a girl that was advertised as "diamond" for a "gold" tier and be able to pay less.

Are there still shops that do this?

[l337dude]

Yea the "diamond-only" BS has kinda became the norm in the industry, or at least that's the direction it's heading towards, it's fucked up if you ask me, the only few tiered shops I knew have all changed recently, even if not, most girls are marketed as diamond-only, the service provided really is questionable, many of them aren't, the girls can choose what they provide, some no DFK, no CIM, etc, it's fuked...

[GoldfishMan]

Yea the "diamond-only" BS has kinda became the norm in the industry, or at least that's the direction it's heading towards, it's fucked up if you ask me, the only few tiered shops I knew have all changed recently, even if not, most girls are marketed as diamond-only, the service provided really is questionable, many of them aren't, the girls can choose what they provide, some no DFK, no CIM, etc, it's fuked...

Just ignore the tier, bro. It's completely redundant when the girl is only bookable at the 1 tier. You're just booking that girl and whatever service she offers, period.

[l337dude]

To me, "Diamond-only" just implies "not happy with less cash" :shout:

[l337dude]

Just a quick observation, if you look at the roster of N5M for example, C Lindy is not marketed as Diamond-only, her service doesn't include DFK or CIM etc, only lighting kissing, BBBJ, and sex basically, and her rates are a bit cheaper, it's interesting because N5M is not a tiered shop, 99% of girls there are just the standard diamond-only, with various rates based on popularity and the girl's service, at least the rates' based on the girl's service provided.

The last tiered places that I remember are Jinia Strathfield and Fantasy35 Annandale, both pretty crappy now afaik.

[Double_Adapter]

To me, "Diamond-only" just implies "not happy with less cash" :shout:

They do say diamonds is girl's best friend
.....and a dog is a man's best friend but not sure what to make of that.

[personaa]

Just a quick observation, if you look at the roster of N5M for example, C Lindy is not marketed as Diamond-only, her service doesn't include DFK or CIM etc, only lighting kissing, BBBJ, and sex basically, and her rates are a bit cheaper, it's interesting because N5M is not a tiered shop, 99% of girls there are just the standard diamond-only, with various rates based on popularity and the girl's service, at least the rates' based on the girl's service provided.

The last tiered places that I remember are Jinia Strathfield and Fantasy35 Annandale, both pretty crappy now afaik.

No5 and 42G were both tiered shops before covid and brief period during covid when shops were allowed to operate. The recent only Diamond or no tiered is their new trick to rip punters off, they all claim this is what you pay, what's happening inside the room is none of our business as we only rent out the rooms to WLs. In other words, don't complain and F off!

[TheOtherI]

No5 and 42G were both tiered shops before covid and brief period during covid when shops were allowed to operate. The recent only Diamond or no tiered is their new trick to rip punters off, they all claim this is what you pay, what's happening inside the room is none of our business as we only rent out the rooms to WLs. In other words, don't complain and F off!

I can’t see why you think this is a way of ripping people off, as other shops are exactly the same.
i.e both Ginzas

[priapus1966]

These raids are essentially for show, to show the public "something" is being done. If the Feds were really serious they would harass the crooked immigration Agents. They don't so much, because those guys get lawyered up, and the next thing is that the Administrative Appeals Tribunal which is totally over-worked and understaffed will take 5 years to deal with the case - by which time all the witnesses are long gone.

[personaa]

I can’t see why you think this is a way of ripping people off, as other shops are exactly the same.
i.e both Ginzas

Then they are all ripping punters off. I see the talent and their listed service and their prices.

As for WLs they are not even close to what you used to see in their line ups before covid

As for prices, there is not much of difference in quality in their line up to mid or lower end shops. However, you pay a different rate here.

As for services, there can be a great deal of difference between what has been advertised and what is delivered. And its all on girls discretion so shop has no business with what goes inside the room.


In my book, this is rip off, but I know punters may have different views on it. Each to their own then.

[max_power]

The funny thing is now shops which were just standard service are now jumping on the band wagon of diamond. $150 shops are now charging $250 plus. I wonder if it’s just inflation or there offering diamond services.

[Ghost2hauntU]

The funny thing is now shops which were just standard service are now jumping on the band wagon of diamond. $150 shops are now charging $250 plus. I wonder if it’s just inflation or there offering diamond services.

Inflation is just 7% so it clearly ain’t the reason. They’re just testing us what they can get away with.

I really admire the Indian clients, they don’t take any shit. Last Sunday at 271 Marrickville I saw a couple negotiating in price. Try didn’t get it and walked out but still. Good on them rather than getting suckered in.

I’m now back at shops like 12 Bellevue where I can still get it for 160 bucks and hour without the bullshit.

[GoldfishMan]

I can’t see why you think this is a way of ripping people off, as other shops are exactly the same.
i.e both Ginzas

Not only that, the higher priced shops like Ginza, the old 5 star, Kyoto, etc, have always been higher priced than the $150 shops.

The only difference between then and now is, they used to advertise girls with "come and book this girl she does BBBJ, CIM, DFK", now they advertise them as "come and book this girl she does Diamond Tier BBBJ, CIM, DFK". The tier means nothing to me because I always go for girls based on body, looks and age. Service is the lowest priority on my list.

But I can see why some people who are value hunting or service oriented might try to put more meaning into the Tier. When you're looking for something, you tend to subconsciously "find" it at the smallest sign of that thing. Like you go digging for gold and see a little glimmer you think you've found gold.

If anything, these redundant tiers are marketing ploys targetted at the service / value hunters.

[personaa]

Spot on mate. The mid range shops are busy as, and girls from high ends have realised this well and they are moving (thats why i mentioned earlier there is not much of difference these days) What's the point of staying at a shop with plenty of competition, she can score one customer in 4 hours while in a mid range shop she will be booked out and less competition. Shops used inflation of 7 percent to hike their rates 30 percent. Not a reasonable adjustment.

[winning2121]

$300 diamond and $170 standard is really a huge price difference to be fair

[Flasher]

As for me I don't do DFK, DATY, 69 only do BJ but still paying the same rates I'm sure there is many like me It dose make me feel I'm getting rip off but this is the market now in the high tier shop not much I can do about it

[Roshtosh]

$300 is a hell of a lot of money for one hour of pleasure with promises of "diamond" service. (I paid the equivalent amount yesterday for a shitload of groceries for a family of 4!)

It is just bullshit the establishments and girls will do anything to get us to hand over our hard earned money, knowing that we are ruled by our penises instead of our head.

[Ghost2hauntU]

As for me I don't do DFK, DATY, 69 only do BJ but still paying the same rates I'm sure there is many like me It dose make me feel I'm getting rip off but this is the market now in the high tier shop not much I can do about it

Yeah it’s fucked. But I just got an idea, to setup my own whorehouse. I’m gonna call it “Menu Selection” - pay only for the service you want.

I’m sure this is already around in Japan.

[GoldfishMan]

Yeah it’s fucked. But I just got an idea, to setup my own whorehouse. I’m gonna call it “Menu Selection” - pay only for the service you want.

I’m sure this is already around in Japan.

Which boob do I press to get "only a BBBJ with covered vaginal sex"?

Or am I supposed to press left side boob 2X, lift right arm to 90° angle and pull on her tongue?

Also, do I need to pay extra if the machine malfunctions and gives me more than what I ordered?

[asiafever]

Tiers is becoming a bugbear of mine, as some shops just don't pass the message on to the girl, or the girl will try to see what she can get away with not providing.

Perhaps while we're in the waiting room we should be given a piece of paper with "services" listed, we tick the boxes, paper is handed to the girl and she signs on it so the expectations between both parties are agreed, or she crosses off what she's not up for and so the punter is free to change his mind and go for another girl if they're non-negotiables.

I'm only half joking. I know it would not eradicate the issue but at least there'd be no feigning ignorance...

[l337dude]

Like mentioned previously tiers don't really mean much these days, most are diamond-only anyway to extract more cash from punters, the only thing you are guaranteed really is a BBBJ and covered sex for "diamond tier", some don't do DFK, many don't do CIM...even if it's listed specifically.

I'm a value hunter and I usually just go for a good BBBJ and sex anyway, I never DATY, never 69 because I like good eye contact from WL, I'm not huge into DFK, for me is a nice to have but totally optional, if CIM is available I may go for it but a lot of the times I prefer to cum while fucking...

[Flasher]

[QUOTE=asiafever;2747575]Tiers is becoming a bugbear of mine, as some shops just don't pass the message on to the girl, or the girl will try to see what she can get away with not providing.

Perhaps while we're in the waiting room we should be given a piece of paper with "services" listed, we tick the boxes, paper is handed to the girl and she signs on it so the expectations between both parties are agreed, or she crosses off what she's not up for and so the punter is free to change his mind and go for another girl if they're non-negotiables.

I'm only half joking. I know it would not eradicate the issue but at least there'd be no feigning ignorance...[/QU

This was actually offer in the good old days at Donggun China pre Xi period the WL has the list of service on the size of business card read out to client the service she needs to provide I usually go just do these three things skip the rest Lol she said are you sure? I get into trouble if you complain Lol

[dotcumdotinyou]

It should really be up to the shops to tell the girl during interview what she has to do to earn "diamond" rates. This crap about what happens in the room is between the customer and the girl is just that...crap.

If they really want to continue with this crap then the girl should collect the money in the room AFTER negotiating the service she will provide with the customer. Then its up to the girl to pass on the room hire fee to the shop.

[Themysterypi]

I finding the so called top tier diamond service is just not worth it. Yes the girls are probably younger but it doesn't make up for the lack of quality service the other places offer.

[Ghost2hauntU]

I finding the so called top tier diamond service is just not worth it. Yes the girls are probably younger but it doesn't make up for the lack of quality service the other places offer.

I concur. Plus I’ve come across some real attitude queens @65 Carlton (Jojo and Gina). recently who think their shit don’t stink. Was wise enough to walk out on those two occasions.