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Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 01:59 AM
Alright, so I have been contemplating if I should write this or not for the past 3 days, but fuck it. I feel like this is actually a pretty cool community that I can share stuff with.
To give some background, I'm not a 20 year old newbie to punting. Been doing this for over a decade. I'm average built and average looking. So while girls don't flock to me like they would to that French coach we saw on tv, I do get girls in the real world and they quite like me as a person. I have a good job that allows me to travel the world. My point is, I'm not inexperience or have low self-esteem.
However, I'm Fucked, because I think I start to like this WL a little too much. To a point where I kind of want to ask her out. I know it's dumb and we should have boundaries and in all my years of punting, this has pretty much never happened. Some WLs would ask for my contact and I almost always say no. But this one, this one I want to ask her instead.
Now I don't want anything serious because I am leaving in less than 2 weeks and I probably won't come back until next year, but it would still be nice if anything can happen and it doesn't even have to be sex. One might say, well that's dumb because you are already having sex with her. But as a seasoned punter, sex is already not the ultimate thing that we value because it comes so easily. I'm sure some of you can relate to this. And as stupid as it sounds, the hunt for emotions might be more fun after the sex. It's like I don't care that I had sex with her, but I want her to want to have sex with me. haha. God I sound like a woman on that one, lol. It's hunt that makes it fun and the problem is I just usually don't do that with WLs.
I have this weird thing where when I'm hyper focused on something, I can't even help to stop it. With work, it's a great thing to have, I can sit there work days on end until complete it. But with girls, I would start to think about how I can ask them out or where to go or how to fuck them. With girls, not a great to have because I can't focus on anything else.
I've only been here for 2 weeks. I saw her twice and I actually haven't punted since I last saw her. She actually only works about 1-2 days a week, so I'm seeing her on Thursday for a 2 hour session. And that's the reason why I booked a 2 hour session, or else I would never have done it haha. The funny thing is, during our last session, I jokingly said 1 hr is too short with you, can I book 2 hrs. Her response was you can book how ever long you like, you can actually book the whole day and we can watch tv. haha, it's actually kinda cute.
So yea. Now y'all can comment, judge, and laugh at me. That's all fine by me, because I'm sooo fucked already haha. At least this way, I don't have to internalize everything in my head.
Migala
14-08-2023, 02:32 AM
I feel you bro. I also book the girl for two hours. And I started feeling a connection with her. The only problem is reading her AR. That thing is killing me, lol
TheOtherI
14-08-2023, 02:54 AM
Oh dear buddy boy.
I’m hoping for a success story here, even though I’m a cynic, I’m quietly optimistic for you.
Good luck for Thursday!
maximusrome9
14-08-2023, 03:05 AM
Go for it, mate! Make sure you tip her well and book her again and give her a massage she'll ask for your number. Oh and mention that you're loaded and want to get married and settle down soon and if she's looking for a PR she'll definitely go out with you. Good luck!
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 03:11 AM
Oh dear buddy boy.
I’m hoping for a success story here, even though I’m a cynic, I’m quietly optimistic for you.
Good luck for Thursday!
No you are absolutely right to be cynical. I would be too. Success rate is near zero. Lol. But thanks for showing support!
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 03:13 AM
Go for it, mate! Make sure you tip her well and book her again and give her a massage she'll ask for your number. Oh and mention that you're loaded and want to get married and settle down soon and if she's looking for a PR she'll definitely go out with you. Good luck!
Yea bro, I don’t think the PR thing gonna work on this one. She’s an Aussie, haha.
HitNMiss
14-08-2023, 04:20 AM
Just act on your feelings bro , open up and say what your thinking to her . She might feel the same or not . Your never going to know until you say something.
bleekpit
14-08-2023, 04:45 AM
well, if you're leaving in 2 weeks let her know and just ask her to join you in doing something fun instead of "can i get your number?" first - something she normally doesn't have access to. if she does agree, then it's probably going to be more memorable that way. emphasis on the IF lol.
remember that they are real people with feelings too so make sure she knows your deal.
also, if she asks for money to hang out with you then you have your real answer.
Buy her a ticket to wherever you're going forna 2 week holiday. If it's good keep it going.
Tell her you're going though
Is there something in the water recently lol, all these punters rocking up with feelings for WLs.
I'm always an advocate for no to relationships with adult industry girls personally and yes, I've had the feels for MLs too (Not WLs though, haven't seen enough, but there is one I do like in a 'will return to' way but not romantically) but I've always tempered myself.
How do I do this?
Go and read ARs on her so I know no matter what I'm getting, she's done it for others or done more for others than me, which also means she's probably been invited on holidays by others etc, which means ultimately your just schmuck 969 she's hooked.
I'd really suggest if as you say, sex is not the ultimate thing but a hunt for emotions, you don't go for women for whom emotions are something they need to hide and bury on the regular.
I mean of course she'd love you to book her the whole day and watch TV, like shit, 250 or so an hour for snacks and Netflix? No need to do anything sexual but just relax? Sign me the fuck up is what's going off like a Air Raid Siren in her head.
I'm not saying WL/ML aren't human and can't form connections etc. But what I am saying is that you are likely not the only one chasing after her especially if she is popular etc.
Others may be buying her gifts, already taking her out for dinners etc.
You know when your favourite ML/WL "takes a holiday"? Who's to say that isn't Ali Ababwa (prince Ali fabulous he) taking her to the Bahamas for a while?
Don't want to get you down Footie, just giving you some reality checks. You've got good focus use it for finding yourself a good woman outside of a shop.
JSteel96
14-08-2023, 09:02 AM
Alright, so I have been contemplating if I should write this or not for the past 3 days, but fuck it. I feel like this is actually a pretty cool community that I can share stuff with.
To give some background, I'm not a 20 year old newbie to punting. Been doing this for over a decade. I'm average built and average looking. So while girls don't flock to me like they would to that French coach we saw on tv, I do get girls in the real world and they quite like me as a person. I have a good job that allows me to travel the world. My point is, I'm not inexperience or have low self-esteem.
However, I'm Fucked, because I think I start to like this WL a little too much. To a point where I kind of want to ask her out. I know it's dumb and we should have boundaries and in all my years of punting, this has pretty much never happened. Some WLs would ask for my contact and I almost always say no. But this one, this one I want to ask her instead.
Now I don't want anything serious because I am leaving in less than 2 weeks and I probably won't come back until next year, but it would still be nice if anything can happen and it doesn't even have to be sex. One might say, well that's dumb because you are already having sex with her. But as a seasoned punter, sex is already not the ultimate thing that we value because it comes so easily. I'm sure some of you can relate to this. And as stupid as it sounds, the hunt for emotions might be more fun after the sex. It's like I don't care that I had sex with her, but I want her to want to have sex with me. haha. God I sound like a woman on that one, lol. It's hunt that makes it fun and the problem is I just usually don't do that with WLs.
I have this weird thing where when I'm hyper focused on something, I can't even help to stop it. With work, it's a great thing to have, I can sit there work days on end until complete it. But with girls, I would start to think about how I can ask them out or where to go or how to fuck them. With girls, not a great to have because I can't focus on anything else.
I've only been here for 2 weeks. I saw her twice and I actually haven't punted since I last saw her. She actually only works about 1-2 days a week, so I'm seeing her on Thursday for a 2 hour session. And that's the reason why I booked a 2 hour session, or else I would never have done it haha. The funny thing is, during our last session, I jokingly said 1 hr is too short with you, can I book 2 hrs. Her response was you can book how ever long you like, you can actually book the whole day and we can watch tv. haha, it's actually kinda cute.
So yea. Now y'all can comment, judge, and laugh at me. That's all fine by me, because I'm sooo fucked already haha. At least this way, I don't have to internalize everything in my head.
On Thursday after the love making tell her how you feel & discuss with her how your work makes you travel around a lot. Ask her would she be interested to see you in private and this does not always have to be here. Your well off you can buy air fair for her to come and stay with you for some periods of time in other countries. You have to pay for this but if you have feelings for her its probably going to be worth it. Make her your sugar baby, that's exactly what I did with the girl I like and see regularly. We see each other we make love we talk and have meals etc, But we do not date. I've often had to pull myself back from falling in love with her. I know shes a working lady you have to be able to accept that. But you need to tell her you want to see her more often and your situation tell her on Thursday tell her you like her. If your getting that feeling she probably is to. Like I mentioned if your well off and can afford her to visit you no matter where in the world make it happen. Before you leave book a couple of private over night sessions with her so you can spend more time together. If you can take her out on her days off to. If she has the feelings for you and your in love with her do not let her get away. You only have one chance at stuff like this and we only live once on this planet so take her do not do nothing and regret it. Talk to her and please please update us how you go on Thursday. Good luck bro.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 11:34 AM
I feel you bro. I also book the girl for two hours. And I started feeling a connection with her. The only problem is reading her AR. That thing is killing me, lol
Did you ask her out at the end? Did she feel the same about you?
The AR thing doesn’t bother me too much. For one, no one hardly writes about her. I actually want to read more AR on her to know if she’s actually just really good at her job for guys to go back and see her again. One AR did say he wants to go see her again and again and again lol. So maybe that’s a good indication, I don’t know.
My two cents worth and take it with a grain of salt even though it comes from a wealth of experience because every lady and every situation is unique.
Ask her out to do something that is an experience or to create a memory. Not just a dinner date.
Something where she can enjoy your company and enjoy herself, so she remembers it fondly.
Even better show you care by doing a heartfelt gesture. Can be as small as a single rose or bringing her lunch to your next session and letting her eat it on your time.
How she reacts will give you a lot of valuable insight in to her character and what she is looking for.
OneandDone
14-08-2023, 11:42 AM
Punters seem to get confused thinking they have this mutual, complementary connection but it's actually separate. She gives sex for money (to anyone), you give money for sex it works as a transaction.
I've spent time outside with WLs, honestly bored as batshit but I guess others have passed this hurdle and are ok with it.
But ultimately I think you're short cutting your way to a relationship with an attractive girl. U get sex immediately, hell you can even trap her in a room for 2 hrs and get exclusive attention. Generally if u cut corners it won't have the foundation to last and withstand the bad times later.
But good luck YOLO !
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 12:25 PM
Thanks for all the comments guys. Do appreciate all of y'all.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 12:29 PM
My two cents worth and take it with a grain of salt even though it comes from a wealth of experience because every lady and every situation is unique.
Ask her out to do something that is an experience or to create a memory. Not just a dinner date.
Something where she can enjoy your company and enjoy herself, so she remembers it fondly.
Even better show you care by doing a heartfelt gesture. Can be as small as a single rose or bringing her lunch to your next session and letting her eat it on your time.
How she reacts will give you a lot of valuable insight in to her character and what she is looking for.
Very true. A date with experience is much better than a dinner date. The worse is probably a movie date. You sit there in the dark for 2 hours and not even talking. haha. I don't know why guys like to ask girls to go see movies, it accomplish nothing.
Anyways, I do have tickets to the World cup finals for next week. I'll be totally down to take her, should be quite an experience even if shes not a soccer fan I think.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 12:32 PM
Punters seem to get confused thinking they have this mutual, complementary connection but it's actually separate. She gives sex for money (to anyone), you give money for sex it works as a transaction.
I've spent time outside with WLs, honestly bored as batshit but I guess others have passed this hurdle and are ok with it.
But ultimately I think you're short cutting your way to a relationship with an attractive girl. U get sex immediately, hell you can even trap her in a room for 2 hrs and get exclusive attention. Generally if u cut corners it won't have the foundation to last and withstand the bad times later.
But good luck YOLO !
I dont want a serious relationship. I'm leaving sydney in less than 2 weeks anyway. Just feel like ask her to go out and do something. Haha, so why is it batshit boring? what you guys do?
l337dude
14-08-2023, 12:38 PM
LOL I was waiting for another "feeling for WL" thread, didn't take long.
All I can say is: been there, done that, it's a mistake I made when I first started my punting journey, the harsh truth is...it never ends well...
My advice: stop tormenting yourself and just let it go, the longer you drag this on the more you'll drive yourself crazy, it's ok to have a bit of fantasy from time to time but stop before you let yourself fall into a deep rabbit hole.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 12:41 PM
I'd really suggest if as you say, sex is not the ultimate thing but a hunt for emotions, you don't go for women for whom emotions are something they need to hide and bury on the regular.
See, that's the thing. They have to hide it and bury their feelings. The hyper focused part of me just want to find ways to uncover that. It's super fun to take on a tough challenge like that. The chances of success is near zero, but if succeed, it's would give me a rush of excitement. That's the hunt right? haha. I know everything you said is pretty true, it's just me being stubborn,
1inchguy
14-08-2023, 12:48 PM
Does she have an ad? What's her name, shop etc. We will make sure she loves you back after we are done with her
Hidden Python
14-08-2023, 04:28 PM
This is a prime example of why you can dinner date private escorts for a price,
Lots of lonely business men do it all the time, as we are all human and need companionship, otherwise you will be a poor excuse of a lonely human being
I personally just fuck them and leave them, and don’t get attached to them, otherwise you got to listen to all their drams of what other customers do to them, and you don’t want to hear how some other guy gave her anal and you haven’t even been offer that
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 04:49 PM
Does she have an ad? What's her name, shop etc. We will make sure she loves you back after we are done with her
hahahahha, that's a good one. I've already peppered some clues in all of my posts actually. So if you want to know, you can go back and read all of my other threads/posts and you might guess as to who it may be. But it's all good because i'm pretty sure y'all already got a round with her.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 05:06 PM
you don’t want to hear how some other guy gave her anal and you haven’t even been offer that
This is what I like about this community because we are all seasoned punters who really understand how things work in this world. Yes, that would not be ideal. However, that's kind of the baseline here right? She's WL and quite popular. I'm sure she's taken countless guys in ways that I can't even imagine. haha. But that's the game right? I can't blame the player how this game is played.
This is a prime example of why you can dinner date private escorts for a price
yes, if it's in the US, while escorting is illegal, most WL will advertise a separate "going out" category of service. I used to think that who the fuck would wanna just go have a meal with them. Now the joke is on me. haha. Really tho, I rather not have to pay her to spend time with her outside, not that i cant afford it. But, to see if I can get her to want to spend her time with me. In a funny way, I would feel very accomplished. lol. The problem is there no time left for me since I need to go back soon.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 05:12 PM
LOL I was waiting for another "feeling for WL" thread, didn't take long.
All I can say is: been there, done that, it's a mistake I made when I first started my punting journey, the harsh truth is...it never ends well...
My advice: stop tormenting yourself and just let it go, the longer you drag this on the more you'll drive yourself crazy, it's ok to have a bit of fantasy from time to time but stop before you let yourself fall into a deep rabbit hole.
hahaha, yea i quickly made the post so we all have more drama to talk about. Good for the community! lol
Yes, this is really more of a newbie thing to do and i didn't even expect myself to feel this way even though I've been punting for 13 years. The way I see it and maybe why I let myself indulge in this situation is that I'm leaving in less than 2 weeks. One way or another, it's gonna end soon. So I kinda allowed myself to be lowered into this rabbit hole.
GoldfishMan
14-08-2023, 05:26 PM
It's only a couple more weeks. How bad could it be?
Someone in an earlier post said to tell her that you're leaving in 2 weeks. I say don't do that. Only tell her 1 or 2 days before going. You'd only tell her about the limited time if you had trouble attracting her and needed to use that as a leverage. You, on the other hand, seem like you've got enough attraction power to not have to use that move.
It's a risky move telling her about leaving. Could backfire on you badly.
Candy1234
14-08-2023, 05:32 PM
The French one?
Ah just do what you want to do man, but don’t be surprised if you’re not the first one that have a crack at her or any WL/ML for that matter, I guess be carefree about it. I’ve heard crazy stories from the girls about punters going crazy on them when rejected, starting to stalk, threaten to call the immigration, constantly texting and more. Don’t be that dude.
Axeman123
14-08-2023, 05:50 PM
This is a prime example of why you can dinner date private escorts for a price,
Lots of lonely business men do it all the time, as we are all human and need companionship, otherwise you will be a poor excuse of a lonely human being
I personally just fuck them and leave them, and don’t get attached to them, otherwise you got to listen to all their drams of what other customers do to them, and you don’t want to hear how some other guy gave her anal and you haven’t even been offer that Yeah. Especially if you were planning on giving it to her anally what would your plan B be.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 06:47 PM
The French one?
LOL, that's a good educated guess. I also had people PMed asking if it's Lucie. But it's not. haha. She's on holiday and hasn't been back yet. I do want to see her again tho, but strictly professionally lol.
Ah just do what you want to do man, but don’t be surprised if you’re not the first one that have a crack at her or any WL/ML for that matter, I guess be carefree about it. I’ve heard crazy stories from the girls about punters going crazy on them when rejected, starting to stalk, threaten to call the immigration, constantly texting and more. Don’t be that dude.
For sure, I am well aware that this is not the first time or last time someone wants to ask her out. In a way, just like someone you meet in real life right? No worries, I'm definitely not going to be the childish cry baby that can't take a no for an answer. Like how they used to say it, rub some dirt on it and let's go. haha.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 07:06 PM
It's only a couple more weeks. How bad could it be?
Someone in an earlier post said to tell her that you're leaving in 2 weeks. I say don't do that. Only tell her 1 or 2 days before going. You'd only tell her about the limited time if you had trouble attracting her and needed to use that as a leverage.
You are right, there's only 2 weeks left for me anyway, so I'm taking it as lightly as I can and trying to have fun with it. It's just I'm too focused on it right now. haha. So she ready knows that I'm leaving in less than 2 weeks. It's easy to tell from my american accent that I'm not from here. She actually asked me when I'm leaving during our last session. She did paused and nod to herself after I told her in 2 weeks.
You, on the other hand, seem like you've got enough attraction power to not have to use that move.
Thanks for having faith in me, my man. The truth is, if I have a month or 2 left in Sydney. Then I would say I have a greater chance of success. I can really slow down the pace and build a better rapport with her every time I see her. There are a lot of subtle ways to flirt, to show that you care, and more importantly to show that you are different in the good way. Barring from something like she's in a committed relationship or some extreme reason that doesn't allow her to "hang out" with guys outside of work, usually 2 months is enough to achieve it. But at last, I have to do it in a fucking 2 hour session. hahaha. It's a monumental challenge. haha. Again, I'm trying to have fun with it. If it doesn't happen then well, I tried, and at least the sex was good. lol
Candy1234
14-08-2023, 07:27 PM
LOL, that's a good educated guess. I also had people PMed asking if it's Lucie. But it's not. haha. She's on holiday and hasn't been back yet. I do want to see her again tho, but strictly professionally lol.
Hahah mate, I took some time off at work just to investigate who’s this chick. All good man, I’m sure she have a very very very very pretty face *wink wink*.
All the best, I’m sure she will be flattered.
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 07:39 PM
Hahah mate, I took some time off at work just to investigate who’s this chick. All good man, I’m sure she have a very very very very pretty face *wink wink*.
All the best, I’m sure she will be flattered.
Wow, now im flattered that someone would take time off work to investigate my case. haha hat's off to you.
But, no luck this time either. The one with the very very very very pretty face has nothing on the person I'm talking about. lol
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 07:43 PM
Just act on your feelings bro , open up and say what your thinking to her . She might feel the same or not . Your never going to know until you say something.
Yea bro. If I ask, it will likely be no, but maybe a yes. If I don't ask, it will always be no. YOLO
Footballpunter
14-08-2023, 07:48 PM
well, if you're leaving in 2 weeks let her know and just ask her to join you in doing something fun instead of "can i get your number?" first - something she normally doesn't have access to. if she does agree, then it's probably going to be more memorable that way. emphasis on the IF lol.
remember that they are real people with feelings too so make sure she knows your deal.
also, if she asks for money to hang out with you then you have your real answer.
Oh yea, definitely want to go do something that will be fun and a good experience. I'm sure it the biggest IF in the history of IFs lol
OneandDone
15-08-2023, 12:46 AM
I dont want a serious relationship. I'm leaving sydney in less than 2 weeks anyway. Just feel like ask her to go out and do something. Haha, so why is it batshit boring? what you guys do?
Dinner and drinks, a few different times with different girls on Asia business trips. If I'd already fucked them earlier that day was done with her, if I hadn't yet was turned off enough that just paid them the time for the company and went exploring alternatives
If the conversation turns as it normally would to one's occupation I really gave zero fucks about her's tbh
I just think in most social settings I would prefer other company
Footballpunter
15-08-2023, 01:10 AM
Dinner and drinks, a few different times with different girls on Asia business trips. If I'd already fucked them earlier that day was done with her, if I hadn't yet was turned off enough that just paid them the time for the company and went exploring alternatives
If the conversation turns as it normally would to one's occupation I really gave zero fucks about her's tbh
I just think in most social settings I would prefer other company
Fair enough, bro. If it's not for you then it's not for you. I can respect that.
TheOtherI
17-08-2023, 12:30 PM
Today is the big day!
My guess is Roxy.
Candy1234
17-08-2023, 02:29 PM
The Korean one for sure 😉
TheOtherI
17-08-2023, 03:42 PM
The Korean one for sure 😉
Nah, he said she’s Aussie.
Footballpunter
17-08-2023, 06:13 PM
Today is the big day!
Haha, yes today was the big day. I would say it went better than excepted given there had been a lot of changes over the past 2 days. The saga might continue. We shall see in a few days.
If not, I can't do anything about it anyway. But one thing for sure, I set a goal, I took a shot. Better than not getting the shot off. No regrets, YOLO. haha.
Again, big thanks to the people who reached out, you guys great!
Footballpunter
17-08-2023, 06:14 PM
The Korean one for sure
Haha, sorry, no luck this time either.
PKING2
17-08-2023, 06:24 PM
Today is the big day!
My guess is Roxy.
My guess she is the mamasan
TheOtherI
17-08-2023, 07:53 PM
My guess she is the mamasan
At N5M? Which one? Haha
Candy1234
17-08-2023, 08:13 PM
Haha, sorry, no luck this time either.
Haha yeh… TheOtherI is right. Roxy ey, not bad looking.
PKING2
17-08-2023, 08:56 PM
At N5M? Which one? Haha
I dont think from n5m,
The korean mamasan that always hiding behind the scene and she is aussie and ex wl
TheOtherI
17-08-2023, 09:11 PM
I dont think from n5m,
The korean mamasan that always hiding behind the scene and she is aussie and ex wl
Who this Korean mamasan? Different shop?
He said he had a 2 hour session booked from earlier in the week, so I might be wrong, because I didn’t think you could make bookings that far out at N5M. Unless I’m mistaken.
Footballpunter
17-08-2023, 10:27 PM
Haha yeh… TheOtherI is right. Roxy ey, not bad looking.
Haha, I haven't seen a Roxy.
I dont think from n5m,
The korean mamasan that always hiding behind the scene and she is aussie and ex wl
Korean Aussie could be interesting.
Who this Korean mamasan? Different shop?
He said he had a 2 hour session booked from earlier in the week, so I might be wrong, because I didn’t think you could make bookings that far out at N5M. Unless I’m mistaken.
Yea, don't be so sure about N5M. I talk about a lot, but I do to go other shops lol.
Cheers guys.
JJBlows
17-08-2023, 11:32 PM
No you are absolutely right to be cynical. I would be too. Success rate is near zero. Lol. But thanks for showing support!
Be carefully what you wish for. The idea of bagging a hot as fuck WL is great in the beginning until you wake up in the morning with her cuddling you and then moaning about having to get up and go to work where other punters write great AR's about her that day. I did it with a popular WL and then reality sets in that it's not going to work and I got out early.
Footballpunter
18-08-2023, 02:12 AM
Be carefully what you wish for. The idea of bagging a hot as fuck WL is great in the beginning until you wake up in the morning with her cuddling you and then moaning about having to get up and go to work where other punters write great AR's about her that day. I did it with a popular WL and then reality sets in that it's not going to work and I got out early.
Yup totally agree. I'm leaving in 7 days tho. So however far I get, it ends there. Plus, doesn't seem like I'm not bagging anything right now. lol
Migala
13-11-2023, 01:25 AM
Did you ask her out at the end? Did she feel the same about you?
Yes I did. Even I declared my unconditional love to her and she just laughed out loud breaking my heart into trillions of pieces. I'm not sure if she felt the same for me. Even I'm not sure if this is a fact or a fiction. Damn!
Vincent888
13-11-2023, 04:56 AM
Yes I did. Even I declared my unconditional love to her and she just laughed out loud breaking my heart into trillions of pieces. I'm not sure if she felt the same for me. Even I'm not sure if this is a fact or a fiction. Damn!
I’m going through exactly the same thing.
It’s like we are reliving a “first love infatuation”.
I’m older and should be far wiser but still I get emotionally attached. I call it a fools folly. Doesn’t matter how many girls I bang there is only one love and she doesn’t want to know the real me.
Except when we share a booking. Then it’s business as usual and I get to live my fantasy for that hour or two.
Either they’re master manipulators or we are fools in love chasing a butterfly that flits between flowers.
Sooner or they later they must realise that they cannot live this lifestyle forever.
But when?
Do you want to wait that long?
JohnJones
13-11-2023, 08:49 AM
I’m going through exactly the same thing.
It’s like we are reliving a “first love infatuation”.
I’m older and should be far wiser but still I get emotionally attached. I call it a fools folly. Doesn’t matter how many girls I bang there is only one love and she doesn’t want to know the real me.
Except when we share a booking. Then it’s business as usual and I get to live my fantasy for that hour or two.
Either they’re master manipulators or we are fools in love chasing a butterfly that flits between flowers.
Sooner or they later they must realise that they cannot live this lifestyle forever.
But when?
Do you want to wait that long?
Practicing and realising the clear light of bliss taught me many things, hence the reason it's called the "Union of No More Learning" - we all have unlimited, unconditional love and compassion within us for all beings. If they don't accept our love, we can still love them silently. We can be a beacon where they can rely on us when they come to realisation.
If the Buddha took 3 aeons of countless lifetimes to become enlightened, so can I.
Footballpunter
13-11-2023, 09:03 AM
Yes I did. Even I declared my unconditional love to her and she just laughed out loud breaking my heart into trillions of pieces. I'm not sure if she felt the same for me. Even I'm not sure if this is a fact or a fiction. Damn!
sorry to hear. I hope you are doing okay. If anything, time will probably clear/heal everything up. Sometimes we just live in the moment, but time passes and we can take a step back to look at the situation clearer. That might help mentally. Plus, we can try to think of it as a learning opportunity.
Cheers.
Soton
13-11-2023, 05:25 PM
Do you want to wait that long?
Would wait till the end of time for the right one
Realistically though I want at least 20 good years with her so waiting till i am 65 is probably my limit
Vincent888
13-11-2023, 06:50 PM
Would wait till the end of time for the right one
Realistically though I want at least 20 good years with her so waiting till i am 65 is probably my limit
We live in a push button society. Most want things asap.
JohnJones
13-11-2023, 07:16 PM
We live in a push button society. Most want things asap.
Every day I think of her I miss her a lot. Even if she doesn't come back, it's good knowing that I am experiencing my karma so that I can clear them all out for future lives.
Vincent888
13-11-2023, 07:44 PM
A man can only wait so long.
JohnJones
13-11-2023, 10:22 PM
A man can only wait so long.
Had to shut myself out for a while and go back into meditation. Now I'm back.
It sucks, but it is what it is. Can't really stay absorbed into all that sadness.
The best miracle a Mahasiddha can do is to transform his sorrows into bliss.
Vincent888
14-11-2023, 07:12 AM
The best miracle a Mahasiddha can do is to transform his sorrows into bliss.
That or be a chronic masturbator.
I think I’d chose my option.
Vincent888
25-11-2023, 08:56 PM
A man can only wait so long.
Four months chasing a WL is enough.
I’m glad I pulled the pin.
Still don’t know if she played me.
Will never know now.
Post count 1995
pies2050
25-11-2023, 09:10 PM
Four months chasing a WL is enough.
I’m glad I pulled the pin.
Still don’t know if she played me.
Will never know now.
Post count 1995
Played big time!! Lots of Thais do this occupation for only one reason $$$$$
charmingninjaman
27-11-2023, 05:23 PM
Honestly bro's - DO NOT EVER FALL FOR A ML or WL. 9.9 out of 10 of them will chew you out and spit you out. If you ever get the feeling that you are falling any of them, just go see a few other ones - It's all just a mirage.
And 9/10 WL's and ML's will meet you outside for $$$. They all talk about it while together.
And yes, I am speaking from experience, unfortunately.
charmingninjaman
27-11-2023, 05:24 PM
Can’t turn a ho into a housewife
I wouldn't say that is the case for all of them - I do know a couple Chinese regulars I seen in the past who now are very loyal successful house wives, the job was purely for $$$ only. Unfortunately, can't say the same for the many other nationalities.
JohnJones
27-11-2023, 05:34 PM
Honestly bro's - DO NOT EVER FALL FOR A ML or WL. 9.9 out of 10 of them will chew you out and spit you out. If you ever get the feeling that you are falling any of them, just go see a few other ones - It's all just a mirage.
And 9/10 WL's and ML's will meet you outside for $$$. They all talk about it while together.
And yes, I am speaking from experience, unfortunately.
I wouldn't say that is the case for all of them - I do know a couple Chinese regulars I seen in the past who now are very loyal successful house wives, the job was purely for $$$ only. Unfortunately, can't say the same for the many other nationalities.
A bit contradictory there, both posts...
Vincent888
27-11-2023, 06:02 PM
Played big time!! Lots of Thais do this occupation for only one reason $$$$$
Thanks for the positive feedback.
I cannot confirm what exactly happened so I cannot really say. Maybe some people are just really slow texting?
Like incredibly slow… so sloooowwww.
Though I doubt it.
I’ve seen a txt get responded to straight away.
Especially the one concerning money.
Just mine must be going via every planet on this solar system twice then back to earth.
That must be the reason.
It can be the only reason.
To infinity and beyond my texts went!
Then got lost along the way.
I knew there was a reason.
Ya see!
Vincent888
27-11-2023, 06:07 PM
Honestly bro's - DO NOT EVER FALL FOR A ML or WL. 9.9 out of 10 of them will chew you out and spit you out. If you ever get the feeling that you are falling any of them, just go see a few other ones - It's all just a mirage.
And 9/10 WL's and ML's will meet you outside for $$$. They all talk about it while together.
And yes, I am speaking from experience, unfortunately.
I’ve never been offered sex outside.
charmingninjaman
29-11-2023, 09:42 AM
not really, let me summarize for you
- 9.9 out of 10 will chew you up and spit you out
- The remainder 0.1% can end up being decent housewives. These are the few Chinese WL's I know who have successfully made the transition into normal lives being loyal to their husbands and now have kids etc
charmingninjaman
29-11-2023, 09:56 AM
replied with quote below
charmingninjaman
29-11-2023, 09:57 AM
I’ve never been offered sex outside.
I've been offered, and many others have hinted at it by mentioning they do some private customers outside who give them X amount of money.
If you want to - just ask openly, as long as you don't look like Shrek or act like a dangerous creep and aren't stingy - it's unlikely they will turn you down.
You can always just ask for their Wechat or number first - then ask later.
I've dated many working ladies since my younger days as I used to go clubbing with the girls from 5 star back in the days every week at places like gas, pavillion and sublime, then go back to their place to chill and eat till the afternoons. Got a good insight from all the conversations they had with each other which really helped me understand the industry when I started punting more regularly a few years later
T1ooo
29-11-2023, 10:15 AM
dont do it dude, but u will anyways, in no scenario does this end well, just bad and worse, Dr stranglove has seen all 10billion versions and in 0 do u win.
Footballpunter
29-11-2023, 11:55 AM
Dr stranglove has seen all 10billion versions and in 0 do u win.
haha, I like this one and you are right.
Vincent888
29-11-2023, 10:51 PM
I've been offered, and many others have hinted at it by mentioning they do some private customers outside who give them X amount of money.
If you want to - just ask openly, as long as you don't look like Shrek or act like a dangerous creep and aren't stingy - it's unlikely they will turn you down.
You can always just ask for their Wechat or number first - then ask later.
I've dated many working ladies since my younger days as I used to go clubbing with the girls from 5 star back in the days every week at places like gas, pavillion and sublime, then go back to their place to chill and eat till the afternoons. Got a good insight from all the conversations they had with each other which really helped me understand the industry when I started punting more regularly a few years later
Hmmm I don’t know about mixing business with pleasure. In a way going to a brothel is a secure place for both parties. It works. It’s a certain standard. You know what you’re getting.
The girls feel comfortable and I feel comfortable.
The last Thai private I did in Chinatown was highly sus. In fact as I always do I’m checking my personal security. There were guys loitering across the street and in the building hallway for whatever reason. It was in the morning and the rest of the street was dead quiet except for them and me.
Saving a few dollars by visiting them at home isn’t worth the risk. It may be for some but not for me.
charmingninjaman
30-11-2023, 08:33 AM
Hmmm I don’t know about mixing business with pleasure. In a way going to a brothel is a secure place for both parties. It works. It’s a certain standard. You know what you’re getting.
The girls feel comfortable and I feel comfortable.
The last Thai private I did in Chinatown was highly sus. In fact as I always do I’m checking my personal security. There were guys loitering across the street and in the building hallway for whatever reason. It was in the morning and the rest of the street was dead quiet except for them and me.
Saving a few dollars by visiting them at home isn’t worth the risk. It may be for some but not for me.
Keeping it strictly business and at a shop is definitely the best way to do it.
In my experience, it's more expensive meeting WL's or ML's outside (unless they are green and naive).
There are upsides though - meeting a WL outside, you generally get a more intimate experience - if that's what you are after.
Vincent888
30-11-2023, 09:39 AM
Keeping it strictly business and at a shop is definitely the best way to do it.
In my experience, it's more expensive meeting WL's or ML's outside (unless they are green and naive).
There are upsides though - meeting a WL outside, you generally get a more intimate experience - if that's what you are after.
It’s a punt session and that’s all I want.
On a lighter note that slow responder txt back instantly this morning. Wonder why? Perhaps absence makes the txt back quicker?
Anyway I’ve had my fill this week of four girls.
Now I know that’s a piss poor effort but I’m going OS to Bang Bang Central this weekend and really don’t need to punt for next few days.
pies2050
30-11-2023, 08:34 PM
It’s a punt session and that’s all I want.
On a lighter note that slow responder txt back instantly this morning. Wonder why? Perhaps absence makes the txt back quicker?
Anyway I’ve had my fill this week of four girls.
Now I know that’s a piss poor effort but I’m going OS to Bang Bang Central this weekend and really don’t need to punt for next few days.
Hopefully not the Thai Cum bucket you thought was the one for you or the cash cow for her ??? Who cares !!
Vincent888
05-12-2023, 10:52 AM
Hopefully not the Thai Cum bucket you thought was the one for you or the cash cow for her ??? Who cares !!
I’m a cash cow for about 90 % of the girls I punt.
Oops…. Should I have said that?
Therefore your post is incorrect.
“If you’ve got it, spend it”.
Vincent888
05-12-2023, 11:42 AM
I’ve never been asked for money ever.
I give it as a bonus for great sex provided.
Nothing wrong with that.
I tip most people I do business with actually.
There is no talk during the session.
It’s sex only.
pies2050
06-12-2023, 07:06 PM
I’m a cash cow for about 90 % of the girls I punt.
Oops…. Should I have said that?
Therefore your post is incorrect.
“If you’ve got it, spend it”.
Nobody on this site cares about how much money any fellow punters have !! It’s all about having a punt !! You should really get a life and stop trying to be a superstar on this forum!!
ColesBag
07-12-2023, 12:27 PM
I've been offered, and many others have hinted at it by mentioning they do some private customers outside who give them X amount of money.
I don't mind doing it as long as a reasonable arrangement for both parties can be agreed upon. And only if we vibe on a personal level.
If I'm feeling as though it's a pump & dump type of punt even a couple of times no way I'm going to agree to any outside shagging even for free.
GoldfishMan
08-12-2023, 08:01 AM
I dunno if it's because I've been punting for so long, more than 2 decades worth now. Whenever a WG tries to start something with me, I shy away from it like it's the plague.
I recently met an ML who I totally clicked with. She told me to meet her in the city for lunch after she became free doing her things. My initial reaction was "woohoo, gonna get some GF action", but over the course of a few hours I started to feel like it was wrong. I dunno how to put it... The feeling was like, having that girl outside of the confines of punting felt wrong?
I stood her up, but I think she was OK with it. The way she planned it was very "loose"... She told me to contact her after a certain time of the day to meet up. No pinky promise or whatever. Guess she had a feeling that I might not go through with it.
Footballpunter
02-06-2024, 08:16 AM
I dunno if it's because I've been punting for so long, more than 2 decades worth now. Whenever a WG tries to start something with me, I shy away from it like it's the plague.
I recently met an ML who I totally clicked with. She told me to meet her in the city for lunch after she became free doing her things. My initial reaction was "woohoo, gonna get some GF action", but over the course of a few hours I started to feel like it was wrong. I dunno how to put it... The feeling was like, having that girl outside of the confines of punting felt wrong?
I stood her up, but I think she was OK with it. The way she planned it was very "loose"... She told me to contact her after a certain time of the day to meet up. No pinky promise or whatever. Guess she had a feeling that I might not go through with it.
Hey bro, it’s been a long time since I checked the forums. But yea, best to avoid interaction outside of the shops. Recently, I saw a WL that I respect a lot because she’s very career oriented and has a plan for the future. She told me that this is precisely why she doesn’t allow kissing because it messes with ppl’s heads. Hell I don’t even usually add WL’s contacts. But I guess retards like me just need to go through it once to learn our lessons lol.
Anyways, now I urge people not to fall into this rabbit hole because the debt comes due and you not only pay with your wallet, but also your mental health!
Cheers mate.
schloong
02-06-2024, 08:30 AM
Good advice right there thanks Footballpunter...:smile:
cometoIndia
02-06-2024, 12:03 PM
how much of a beta loser you need to be to date a public toilet? Remember we're not talking about a private escort, it's free public prostitution where anyone with a couple hundred bucks can fuck your crush.
every time you have the urge, think about this:
did it ever occur to you how many indian uber drivers that bring your food delivery have cummed inside her mouth? Or imagine how many men you see on the CBD have licked her ass, or some drunk bogans have accidentally cummed inside her? yikes
you're welcome
Spanky69
02-06-2024, 12:26 PM
how much of a beta loser you need to be to date a public toilet? Remember we're not talking about a private escort, it's free public prostitution where anyone with a couple hundred bucks can fuck your crush.
every time you have the urge, think about this:
did it ever occur to you how many indian uber drivers that bring your food delivery have cummed inside her mouth? Or imagine how many men you see on the CBD have licked her ass, or some drunk bogans have accidentally cummed inside her? yikes
you're welcome
Some guys might get off on that, others might want a virginal vestibule.
Axeman123
02-06-2024, 02:57 PM
how much of a beta loser you need to be to date a public toilet? Remember we're not talking about a private escort, it's free public prostitution where anyone with a couple hundred bucks can fuck your crush.
every time you have the urge, think about this:
did it ever occur to you how many indian uber drivers that bring your food delivery have cummed inside her mouth? Or imagine how many men you see on the CBD have licked her ass, or some drunk bogans have accidentally cummed inside her? yikes
you're welcome Maybe..she's "NO INDIANS". No problems then.
cometoIndia
02-06-2024, 05:46 PM
Maybe..she's "NO INDIANS". No problems then.
yeh if you don't mind bogans' cum or international Chinese students cum then go ahead.
cometoIndia
02-06-2024, 05:50 PM
Every time you meet a guy in Sydney, the first thought that will come to your mind will be "has this guy face fucked my love before?". Maybe your manager in the office has fucked her bareback? How about my peers? Heck, perhaps your favourite local Kebab seller has put 5 of his fingers inside her?
It will fuck with your head and eventually make you go crazy. Good luck!
JuneC
02-06-2024, 07:40 PM
The No Indian, was caused by not by the real indians but the ones that looks like indians from Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghan and Fukistan. So it's easy to just say No Indians
Blackmore898
02-06-2024, 11:29 PM
The No Indian, was caused by not by the real indians but the ones that looks like indians from Nepal, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Afghan and Fukistan. So it's easy to just say No Indians
So you are saying the real indian is not that bad? That what u tring to say?
11Bravo
03-06-2024, 12:45 PM
Every time you meet a guy in Sydney, the first thought that will come to your mind will be "has this guy face fucked my love before?". Maybe your manager in the office has fucked her bareback? How about my peers? Heck, perhaps your favourite local Kebab seller has put 5 of his fingers inside her?
It will fuck with your head and eventually make you go crazy. Good luck!This has got to be the height of insecurity.
Geesh.
how much of a beta loser you need to be to date a public toilet? Remember we're not talking about a private escort, it's free public prostitution where anyone with a couple hundred bucks can fuck your crush.
every time you have the urge, think about this:
did it ever occur to you how many indian uber drivers that bring your food delivery have cummed inside her mouth? Or imagine how many men you see on the CBD have licked her ass, or some drunk bogans have accidentally cummed inside her? yikes
you're welcome
"Indian Uber drivers"? The horror, the horror. "free public prostitution"? I don't know, but if she's charging "a couple hundred bucks" then that, by definition, is not free. Or maybe you think that a private escort is a superior person because she charges more? For those private escorts, CIM is CIM, independent of who it's from. Same with BB, or maybe you think skin defines character. That persistent neck pain you have is no doubt due to looking down on so many.
I do feel sorry for the providers who have to put up with the physical abusive customers but also the arrogant ones who think they're better... Two sides, same coin.
My guess is, you'd be the type, if things went south, you'd be crying at CenterLink about how unfair it is and you want help. Fine in Oz where that's possible. Where that's not a possibility, go be an expat in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and take a shit job to support your family. Methinks you'd be the type to say that that's beneath you, you would never sacrifice yourself to help family.
For me, that defines character, the thing you want in a partner. Because if you're considered family, then, in the trenches when the shit hits the fan, you'll stand back to back. But the person that thinks they're superior, "I couldn't do that", that's the type that bails out on you.
Personally, I never judge a person by their job nor their salary, but by their character. I hope that your handle is your idea of a joke; otherwise, there's this taint of self-loathing. For me, it's character, not caste.
Lot of assumptions in the above, but like the ole cliche, "Actions speak louder than words". I judge the providers by their actions, punters by their posts.
ColesBag
03-06-2024, 04:28 PM
Every time you meet a guy in Sydney, the first thought that will come to your mind will be "has this guy face fucked my love before?". Maybe your manager in the office has fucked her bareback? How about my peers? Heck, perhaps your favourite local Kebab seller has put 5 of his fingers inside her?
It will fuck with your head and eventually make you go crazy. Good luck!
This post says more about you than anyone else.
Footballpunter
03-06-2024, 05:30 PM
This has got to be the height of insecurity.
Geesh.
"Indian Uber drivers"? The horror, the horror. "free public prostitution"? I don't know, but if she's charging "a couple hundred bucks" then that, by definition, is not free. Or maybe you think that a private escort is a superior person because she charges more? For those private escorts, CIM is CIM, independent of who it's from. Same with BB, or maybe you think skin defines character. That persistent neck pain you have is no doubt due to looking down on so many.
I do feel sorry for the providers who have to put up with the physical abusive customers but also the arrogant ones who think they're better... Two sides, same coin.
My guess is, you'd be the type, if things went south, you'd be crying at CenterLink about how unfair it is and you want help. Fine in Oz where that's possible. Where that's not a possibility, go be an expat in a foreign country where you don't speak the language and take a shit job to support your family. Methinks you'd be the type to say that that's beneath you, you would never sacrifice yourself to help family.
For me, that defines character, the thing you want in a partner. Because if you're considered family, then, in the trenches when the shit hits the fan, you'll stand back to back. But the person that thinks they're superior, "I couldn't do that", that's the type that bails out on you.
Personally, I never judge a person by their job nor their salary, but by their character. I hope that your handle is your idea of a joke; otherwise, there's this taint of self-loathing. For me, it's character, not caste.
Lot of assumptions in the above, but like the ole cliche, "Actions speak louder than words". I judge the providers by their actions, punters by their posts.
The insecurity could very well be a reflection on himself. Perhaps he feels this way about himself thus he must about about these ppl in that light? Perhaps he himself is the Uber driver that think lowly of himself? And yet, perhaps that’s why he feels the need to nose up when seeing a wl to make himself feel better? I don’t think we will find out for sure nor am I interested in it. But one thing I’m certain of, these posts don’t build your character, they only reveal it.
Spanky69
03-06-2024, 06:41 PM
I judge the providers by their actions, punters by their posts.
You judge the providers AND the punters. Is this a self appointed title? What’s the punishment? Oh I know, put them on block…
Carry on el Blocko.
11Bravo
03-06-2024, 06:43 PM
But one thing I’m certain of, these posts don’t build your character, they only reveal it.Like I said, you are known by your posts...
Spanky69
03-06-2024, 06:51 PM
Like I said, you are known by your posts...
How far down the hole shall we go?
Txt a booking
Video on entry
Front up
Punt
Video on exit
After report
Forum posts
I’d say some people know exactly who they’re talking to online.
cometoIndia
03-06-2024, 10:12 PM
It appears that many beta males who are dating a WL got offended here :shout:. I'm sorry if I have ever deep french kissed your lover, it's just business nothing personal mate. Maybe next time find a normal girl instead, just a piece of advice.
GoldfishMan
03-06-2024, 10:16 PM
It appears that many beta males who are dating a WL got offended here :shout:. I'm sorry if I have ever deep french kissed your lover, it's just business nothing personal mate
Don't need to be dating a WL to be offended by the tripe you post. "It takes one to know one" holds very true in this case, but unfortunately it applies in the opposite direction for you. Not being a gentleman makes you not able to grasp what we're talking about.
Who cares anyway, keep going in your own way.
cometoIndia
03-06-2024, 10:29 PM
What's that to do with being a gentleman? I treat WLs, uber drivers, anyone with full respect. Never had any problems with any ML or WL. Heck I always tip my UberEats driver.
I am just giving you my perspective here, saving you all from an absolute failure down the road. We all know how it's going to end. If you are fine with your girl being fucked by anyone in Sydney with a couple hundred of bucks then best of luck. No sane man would be fine with it.
Spanky69
03-06-2024, 10:51 PM
It appears that many beta males who are dating a WL got offended here :shout:. I'm sorry if I have ever deep french kissed your lover, it's just business nothing personal mate. Maybe next time find a normal girl instead, just a piece of advice.
Offended by what, the truth? Who cares. Most if not all are lost causes so sooner or later the relationships are doomed for failure. That’s just how things are. You either accept that and go along for the ride or you get destroyed in the process.
ReginaldBubbles
04-06-2024, 01:54 AM
Don't need to be dating a WL to be offended by the tripe you post. "It takes one to know one" holds very true in this case, but unfortunately it applies in the opposite direction for you. Not being a gentleman makes you not able to grasp what we're talking about.
Who cares anyway, keep going in your own way.
Remember that thread that got deleted that was pages and pages of anti Indian comments and you said nothing until someone said Australians don't want to work hard and then suddenly you were offended and said that was racist?
I forget my point but yeah that was funny.
11Bravo
04-06-2024, 01:23 PM
It appears that many beta males ... beta?:startle: Nah, I'm a Bravo. :smile:
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