What is your Greatest Alibi to your Wife/Partner when you got caught Punting?

[bryanthemachinegun]

I'd like to bring up this topic to help fellow punters avoid those near misses, hahaha lol..
make sure your wives don't catch you! :smile:

[ditchtheboss]

I'd like to bring up this topic to help fellow punters avoid those near misses, hahaha lol..
make sure your wives don't catch you! :smile:

I don’t have a partner but I just want to say that this is a great threat. I look forward to the responses

[curiousgeorge1023]

Gym is always a good alibi

[Footballpunter]

my greatest alibi is I'm on my work trip. I don't punt when I'm not traveling.

[GoldfishMan]

Groundwork, it's all about the groundwork. Laying the foundation to ensure that, when you punt, there is no chance of you being caught or found out.
I have stuck to this approach and never been caught in 25+ years of punting.

Hard to explain what it is, you almost need some acumen about it. One example, I've punted plenty of times in HK while still married to my HK ex-wife. We'd travel to HK and stay with relos for weeks on end. On those trips, I'd spend all my time with her, and then allocate 1 or 2 days where I can go out on my own. That's when I punt.

Or as football said, he only punts when he travels for work. That's another solid foundation right there.

[Hidden Python]

the best way to punt without getting caught is to know your misses schedule, than work with that, don't make any excuses to go out without her when its suppose to be your time together, also encourage her to go out with her GFs for some retail therapy at least every second weekend, so she has her own quality time away from you, so she won't get suspicious of you doing the same.
On Holidays i recommend you book her a day Spa package that takes up a few hours so she can relax, than you can dash off for a punt.

[Sibon]

What is your Greatest Alibi to your Wife/Partner when you got caught Punting?

Visit grandparents whom the wife doesn't know that they are not around anymore.

[bung72]

I was going to post a similar topic about my experience just yesterday....

Wife was away Sunday night in Sydney.... usually home mid afternoon Monday. Great - booked a nice local girl for 1.30 Monday - she agreed to come in early for me (another story).... Anyway after this I found out wife was returning NLT 1pm.... :O
I thought my best bet was to be showered and good to go, then leave after she got home (should prevent phone calls wondering where I was), with the story I was going for a walk in the local national park (which I luckily do a lot). Mowed the lawn, so my shower wouldn't seem weird... pinched a cake of soap from the bathroom to use at the shop, kissed her goodbye and went punting (with hiking backpack over my shoulder - this was needed), then drove directly to pick up the kids after school. It was my third visit with this 20 year old, she seems into me a lot (I tip her handsomely), and we kissed A LOT.... in the car noted my lips were chafed and red as fuck (she had a touch of vulval stubble too - lots of DATY). When asked by my wife about my lips - 'I know - they are sore, it was windy and cold out there today' - I'm lucky it actually was! Fuck - so many things can go wrong!
In the words of John Cusack in High Fidelity (2000) - 'I am a fucking asshole'....

[bung72]

the best way to punt without getting caught is to know your misses schedule, than work with that, don't make any excuses to go out without her when its suppose to be your time together

Exactly. Don't lie if you don't have to. Just go about your routine.....

[bung72]

Also - if you are punting in an area, and for some bloody reason your in-laws see your car parked somewhere, or see you crossing the road somewhere (and of course need to make a deal of it!).... have an excuse ready to roll as to why you were there. I was at the Macpac shop, or the OfficeWorks etc....

[ditchtheboss]

I was going to post a similar topic about my experience just yesterday....

Wife was away Sunday night in Sydney.... usually home mid afternoon Monday. Great - booked a nice local girl for 1.30 Monday - she agreed to come in early for me (another story).... Anyway after this I found out wife was returning NLT 1pm.... :O
I thought my best bet was to be showered and good to go, then leave after she got home (should prevent phone calls wondering where I was), with the story I was going for a walk in the local national park (which I luckily do a lot). Mowed the lawn, so my shower wouldn't seem weird... pinched a cake of soap from the bathroom to use at the shop, kissed her goodbye and went punting, then drove directly to pick up the kids after school. It was my third visit with this 20 year old, she seems into me a lot (I tip her handsomely), and we kissed A LOT.... in the car noted my lips were chafed and red as fuck (she had a touch of vulval stubble too - lots of DATY). When asked by my wife about my lips - 'I know - they are sore, it was windy and cold out there today' - I'm lucky it actually was! Fuck - so many things can go wrong!
In the words of John Cusack in High Fidelity (2000) - 'I am a fucking asshole'....

Wow, good thinking about how cold it was and your lips.l

[bung72]

Wow, good thinking about how cold it was and your lips.l

I actually impressed myself! Quick thinking.... :)

[bryanthemachinegun]

I don’t have a partner but I just want to say that this is a great threat. I look forward to the responses

Good for you bro! haha

[bryanthemachinegun]

Gym is always a good alibi

Oh yeah! going to workout is one of the top alibi!

[bryanthemachinegun]

my greatest alibi is I'm on my work trip. I don't punt when I'm not traveling.

Sneaky! hahaha I love it mate!

[bryanthemachinegun]

Groundwork, it's all about the groundwork. Laying the foundation to ensure that, when you punt, there is no chance of you being caught or found out.
I have stuck to this approach and never been caught in 25+ years of punting.

Hard to explain what it is, you almost need some acumen about it. One example, I've punted plenty of times in HK while still married to my HK ex-wife. We'd travel to HK and stay with relos for weeks on end. On those trips, I'd spend all my time with her, and then allocate 1 or 2 days where I can go out on my own. That's when I punt.

Or as football said, he only punts when he travels for work. That's another solid foundation right there.

We have a veteran right here! let us follow your footsteps! lol great read mate! got to keep it discreet and tight.

[bryanthemachinegun]

the best way to punt without getting caught is to know your misses schedule, than work with that, don't make any excuses to go out without her when its suppose to be your time together, also encourage her to go out with her GFs for some retail therapy at least every second weekend, so she has her own quality time away from you, so she won't get suspicious of you doing the same.
On Holidays i recommend you book her a day Spa package that takes up a few hours so she can relax, than you can dash off for a punt.

That's the way! I love it!

[bryanthemachinegun]

Visit grandparents whom the wife doesn't know that they are not around anymore.

I didn't expect that coming haha Love it!

[bryanthemachinegun]

I was going to post a similar topic about my experience just yesterday....

Wife was away Sunday night in Sydney.... usually home mid afternoon Monday. Great - booked a nice local girl for 1.30 Monday - she agreed to come in early for me (another story).... Anyway after this I found out wife was returning NLT 1pm.... :O
I thought my best bet was to be showered and good to go, then leave after she got home (should prevent phone calls wondering where I was), with the story I was going for a walk in the local national park (which I luckily do a lot). Mowed the lawn, so my shower wouldn't seem weird... pinched a cake of soap from the bathroom to use at the shop, kissed her goodbye and went punting (with hiking backpack over my shoulder - this was needed), then drove directly to pick up the kids after school. It was my third visit with this 20 year old, she seems into me a lot (I tip her handsomely), and we kissed A LOT.... in the car noted my lips were chafed and red as fuck (she had a touch of vulval stubble too - lots of DATY). When asked by my wife about my lips - 'I know - they are sore, it was windy and cold out there today' - I'm lucky it actually was! Fuck - so many things can go wrong!
In the words of John Cusack in High Fidelity (2000) - 'I am a fucking asshole'....

This could make a good romantic comedy movie! hahaha I like the struggle at first then finally getting the needed punt, finally having a very close call with wifey! hahah good one!

[bryanthemachinegun]

Also - if you are punting in an area, and for some bloody reason your in-laws see your car parked somewhere, or see you crossing the road somewhere (and of course need to make a deal of it!).... have an excuse ready to roll as to why you were there. I was at the Macpac shop, or the OfficeWorks etc....

Don't ever let your selves caught! and if by any chance you will be, Don't confess! I repeat, Don't confess. make up excuses even how silly. because the moment you admit it, every time you get into an argument, she will always bring that one up hahahaha trust me bro!

[Hidden Python]

100% never say you where doing something out of your routine, otherwise a million questions will start flying out of her mouth and the second words would be you are cheating on me you bastard

[ch12121978]

I was going to post a similar topic about my experience just yesterday....

Wife was away Sunday night in Sydney.... usually home mid afternoon Monday. Great - booked a nice local girl for 1.30 Monday - she agreed to come in early for me (another story).... Anyway after this I found out wife was returning NLT 1pm.... :O
I thought my best bet was to be showered and good to go, then leave after she got home (should prevent phone calls wondering where I was), with the story I was going for a walk in the local national park (which I luckily do a lot). Mowed the lawn, so my shower wouldn't seem weird... pinched a cake of soap from the bathroom to use at the shop, kissed her goodbye and went punting (with hiking backpack over my shoulder - this was needed), then drove directly to pick up the kids after school. It was my third visit with this 20 year old, she seems into me a lot (I tip her handsomely), and we kissed A LOT.... in the car noted my lips were chafed and red as fuck (she had a touch of vulval stubble too - lots of DATY). When asked by my wife about my lips - 'I know - they are sore, it was windy and cold out there today' - I'm lucky it actually was! Fuck - so many things can go wrong!
In the words of John Cusack in High Fidelity (2000) - 'I am a fucking asshole'....

You’ve given a lot of specifics here. Wife away Sunday. Her plans changed and she was arriving back 1pm. Mowed the lawn, showered, told your wife you were going to National park, conversation about lips. You’d better hope she doesn’t stumble on this public forum!

And hopefully 1972 isn’t your birth year

[Mr.Robot]

“It wasn’t me”. Then hit play on the song.

[CharlieM]

The problem i find with being married/partnered and being a punter is that there are times that you're free to punt but your favourite WL or a WL you want to try may not be rostered.

I have Saturday arvos and Monday mornings free and the risk of getting caught is minimal.

The other issue is that sometimes when you're free to punt but not really in the mood or just don't feel it. I sometimes have free nights but am mentally drained from work to find the energy to go for a punt. Might have something to do with age.

But because I keep to those strict hours only I have never had to make an excuse.

Oh no I lie...one time last year I was at 88 Artarmon on a Monday morning. Now I always put my phone on flight mode but forgot this time and yeh it didn't stop buzzing (was on silent)for most of the session. Sure enough was the Mrs. She was in a panic as my Son had been taken to hospital. She angrily asked why I hadn't answered. I told her I was picking up some parts for work so left the phone in the car.

I think putting your phone on silent is the better option or else you need to come up with an excuse why your phone was switched off for an hour if its in flight mode.

[bung72]

You’ve given a lot of specifics here. Wife away Sunday. Her plans changed and she was arriving back 1pm. Mowed the lawn, showered, told your wife you were going to National park, conversation about lips. You’d better hope she doesn’t stumble on this public forum!

And hopefully 1972 isn’t your birth year

Dozens of things can go wrong in this game and blow your cover.... I think the chances of my wife reading this forum and happening to recognise details from one particular poster are the least of my worries.... or maybe I'm just self sabotaging? I do have a conscience....
Browser history - now that would be a problem! :)

[bung72]

The problem i find with being married/partnered and being a punter is that there are times that you're free to punt but your favourite WL or a WL you want to try may not be rostered.
I have Saturday arvos and Monday mornings free and the risk of getting caught is minimal.

I only have a window just after lunch one week day a week, very occasional evening, very rare full weekend, so I feel your struggle. Although the lovely young WG I'm a little smitten with at present is usually on in my weekly window...



I think putting your phone on silent is the better option or else you need to come up with an excuse why your phone was switched off for an hour if its in flight mode.

Absolutely. I never turn my phone off - so that would be a red flag. I only share my location with my son, my wife has never brought that bit up, luckily. It would tough to refuse if asked! I briefly turn off sharing when 'going out'.... If my wife is at home I've even thought about accidentally leaving my phone at home, just in case.... So far she has never called me, rarely does anyway!

[GoldfishMan]

Switching off phone or putting it in airplane mode is asking for trouble.

Just switch to silent, turn off vibrate, and make sure it is on a stable surface like facing down on the table. Make sure nothing is in contact with the screen cos if it slips and touches something like a towel or something it could accidentally pick up the call for you.

[bung72]

Make sure nothing is in contact with the screen cos if it slips and touches something like a towel or something it could accidentally pick up the call for you.
Remember some of the older Nokias could be set to auto-answer..... In these shops is definitely not the place to be pocket dialing people either....

Get into the habit of not picking up calls quickly every time - it shouldn't be particularly unusual that you haven't answered. My phone is on silent a lot (from work) so that works well for me.

On the upside, the death of the landline has been a boon - no unanswered calls (that you weren't aware of) to give away you not being home....

[ch12121978]

Dozens of things can go wrong in this game and blow your cover.... I think the chances of my wife reading this forum and happening to recognise details from one particular poster are the least of my worries.... or maybe I'm just self sabotaging? I do have a conscience....
Browser history - now that would be a problem! :)

I always use “private” option in all the browsers I use when looking at this forum or others of this nature. I just assumed that would mean no trail is left. Admittedly my tech knowledge is low so this assumption could be totally wrong. Appreciate if someone could fill me in?

[curiousgeorge1023]

Private browsing and/or Incognito mode is good enough not to leave a trace.

If you want A1 Opsec, well.... You might need to use TAILS & TOR browser, overkill for most really.

Daily routine ie Gym, Watching movie, going to bunnings are all a good way to mask an hour of punting. But more than that, you might actually have to chuck a ' sickie ' at work then you have the whole day for yourself. 🤘

[bung72]

I always use “private” option in all the browsers I use when looking at this forum or others of this nature. I just assumed that would mean no trail is left. Admittedly my tech knowledge is low so this assumption could be totally wrong. Appreciate if someone could fill me in?

That's right.... but you lose convenience having to log in all the time.... Chrome needs a way to selectively stop some sites appearing in the history....

[1inchguy]

It wasn't me

-shaggy

[Timeis629]

I work so many different shifts that bounce around and pick up so much variable overtime it all blends - start early and finish late etc -

[Timeis629]

Dozens of things can go wrong in this game and blow your cover.... I think the chances of my wife reading this forum and happening to recognise details from one particular poster are the least of my worries.... or maybe I'm just self sabotaging? I do have a conscience....
Browser history - now that would be a problem! :)

Agreed - recently found a used condom wrapped in tissue (that I was asked to remove from a shop) 3/4 weeks later found it in my car rubbish compartment drivers window. In my wallet now to show ML as a memento-

[Timeis629]

Agreed - recently found a used condom wrapped in tissue (that I was asked to remove from a shop) 3/4 weeks later found it in my car rubbish compartment drivers window. In my wallet now to show ML as a memento-

Note - it was used but empty - resorted to HJ on this occasion

[bryanthemachinegun]

I don’t have a partner but I just want to say that this is a great threat. I look forward to the responses

Make a list of the possible alibies!

[bryanthemachinegun]

Gym is always a good alibi

can't go wrong with that one!

[bryanthemachinegun]

my greatest alibi is I'm on my work trip. I don't punt when I'm not traveling.

that makes perfect sense! thanks for contributing to the thread!

[bryanthemachinegun]

Groundwork, it's all about the groundwork. Laying the foundation to ensure that, when you punt, there is no chance of you being caught or found out.
I have stuck to this approach and never been caught in 25+ years of punting.

Hard to explain what it is, you almost need some acumen about it. One example, I've punted plenty of times in HK while still married to my HK ex-wife. We'd travel to HK and stay with relos for weeks on end. On those trips, I'd spend all my time with her, and then allocate 1 or 2 days where I can go out on my own. That's when I punt.

Or as football said, he only punts when he travels for work. That's another solid foundation right there.

Hope we don't jinx your record bro! haha nicely done! keep it discreet!

[bryanthemachinegun]

the best way to punt without getting caught is to know your misses schedule, than work with that, don't make any excuses to go out without her when its suppose to be your time together, also encourage her to go out with her GFs for some retail therapy at least every second weekend, so she has her own quality time away from you, so she won't get suspicious of you doing the same.
On Holidays i recommend you book her a day Spa package that takes up a few hours so she can relax, than you can dash off for a punt.

I like it! the way of a true ninja! hidden moves!

[bryanthemachinegun]

Visit grandparents whom the wife doesn't know that they are not around anymore.

I see! yeah this approach can work!

"babe I'm going to spend time with grand pa over the weekends"

[bryanthemachinegun]

I was going to post a similar topic about my experience just yesterday....

Wife was away Sunday night in Sydney.... usually home mid afternoon Monday. Great - booked a nice local girl for 1.30 Monday - she agreed to come in early for me (another story).... Anyway after this I found out wife was returning NLT 1pm.... :O
I thought my best bet was to be showered and good to go, then leave after she got home (should prevent phone calls wondering where I was), with the story I was going for a walk in the local national park (which I luckily do a lot). Mowed the lawn, so my shower wouldn't seem weird... pinched a cake of soap from the bathroom to use at the shop, kissed her goodbye and went punting (with hiking backpack over my shoulder - this was needed), then drove directly to pick up the kids after school. It was my third visit with this 20 year old, she seems into me a lot (I tip her handsomely), and we kissed A LOT.... in the car noted my lips were chafed and red as fuck (she had a touch of vulval stubble too - lots of DATY). When asked by my wife about my lips - 'I know - they are sore, it was windy and cold out there today' - I'm lucky it actually was! Fuck - so many things can go wrong!
In the words of John Cusack in High Fidelity (2000) - 'I am a fucking asshole'....

Thanks for sharing this! a very close call! you did it mate! you are one true ninja!

[bryanthemachinegun]

100% never say you where doing something out of your routine, otherwise a million questions will start flying out of her mouth and the second words would be you are cheating on me you bastard

True! and if ever you get caught, don't ever confess or admit, because when you do? It'll be over for you! every freaking time you get into an argument, you'll be listening to non stop "broken record" like mouth

[bryanthemachinegun]

The problem i find with being married/partnered and being a punter is that there are times that you're free to punt but your favourite WL or a WL you want to try may not be rostered.

I have Saturday arvos and Monday mornings free and the risk of getting caught is minimal.

The other issue is that sometimes when you're free to punt but not really in the mood or just don't feel it. I sometimes have free nights but am mentally drained from work to find the energy to go for a punt. Might have something to do with age.

But because I keep to those strict hours only I have never had to make an excuse.

Oh no I lie...one time last year I was at 88 Artarmon on a Monday morning. Now I always put my phone on flight mode but forgot this time and yeh it didn't stop buzzing (was on silent)for most of the session. Sure enough was the Mrs. She was in a panic as my Son had been taken to hospital. She angrily asked why I hadn't answered. I told her I was picking up some parts for work so left the phone in the car.

I think putting your phone on silent is the better option or else you need to come up with an excuse why your phone was switched off for an hour if its in flight mode.

Nice read! yes probably put your phones to silent than in flight mode. it's easier to make up an excuse like you been to church to pray or meditate so you put your phone to silent.

[bryanthemachinegun]

I always use “private” option in all the browsers I use when looking at this forum or others of this nature. I just assumed that would mean no trail is left. Admittedly my tech knowledge is low so this assumption could be totally wrong. Appreciate if someone could fill me in?

Use incognito mode in google! that way no browsing history will be traced! thank me later!

[bryanthemachinegun]

It wasn't me

-shaggy

Honey came in and she caught me red-handed
Creeping with the girl next door
Picture this, we were both butt-naked
Banging on the bathroom floor
How could I forget that I had
Given her an extra key
All this time she was standing there
She never took her eyes off me

[Shaktimaan]

Always turn off your location services before reaching the shop. I was surprised to see places visited in my google map history.

[bryanthemachinegun]

Always turn off your location services before reaching the shop. I was surprised to see places visited in my google map history.

This is helpful! yeah how can I forget something like that! thanks mate!

[Shaktimaan]

Also if your wife is not techie then dnt tell her about Google map history. You never know when she ask you to show location and timestamp.

[bryanthemachinegun]

Also if your wife is not techie then dnt tell her about Google map history. You never know when she ask you to show location and timestamp.

She is not techie but she is resourceful! waaahhhh! thanks for that tip!

[bung72]

Thanks for sharing this! a very close call! you did it mate! you are one true ninja!

It turned into a mission for sure! I felt like a soldier behind enemy lines....

[bryanthemachinegun]

It turned into a mission for sure! I felt like a soldier behind enemy lines....

Stay alive soldier! that's an order!

[bung72]

Also if your wife is not techie then dnt tell her about Google map history. You never know when she ask you to show location and timestamp.

Holy hell - at the point she starts asking for locations/timestamps, I think she is suspecting something!

[ditchtheboss]

Also if your wife is not techie then dnt tell her about Google map history. You never know when she ask you to show location and timestamp.
Be mindful of your devices at home. I have my Google devices all integrated and I can easily see where I have been in my Google home device at home. That’s not a problem for me because I live alone and don’t have a partner to track me but you guys need to be aware of it. And you don’t need to be tech savvy to see it, you just need to ask google

[GoldfishMan]

Be mindful of your devices at home. I have my Google devices all integrated and I can easily see where I have been in my Google home device at home. That’s not a problem for me because I live alone and don’t have a partner to track me but you guys need to be aware of it. And you don’t need to be tech savvy to see it, you just need to ask google

Ooohhh, good point. I used to use my google calendar to remind myself of my bookings. One day after I'd had a lunch time punt and came home after work, FMD the reminder notification for the booking was right there on my home android tablet!! Lucky for me nobody else uses my home tablet or they would've seen the reminder popup.
After that I still use google cal for reminders, but I put an inconspicuous label on it like "Meeting with M", etc. Lol...

[bung72]

Ooohhh, good point. I used to use my google calendar to remind myself of my bookings. One day after I'd had a lunch time punt and came home after work, FMD the reminder notification for the booking was right there on my home android tablet!! Lucky for me nobody else uses my home tablet or they would've seen the reminder popup.
After that I still use google cal for reminders, but I put an inconspicuous label on it like "Meeting with M", etc. Lol...

Shit that was close! I just use delayed emails to myself, I’d hardly forget a booking though!

[okachimachi]

interesting suggestions

[GoldfishMan]

Shit that was close! I just use delayed emails to myself, I’d hardly forget a booking though!

I can't say I do forget bookings but I've come close. I get very engrossed in my work when I'm deep into something. I just use reminders as a preventive measure.

[bryanthemachinegun]

Where are my sneaky soldiers at? stay safe guys!

[crazykyle1984]

I don't have a partner nor wife! but I am eager to know how you fellows get away with your punting adventures! I need to read a few!

[bung72]

Where are my sneaky soldiers at? stay safe guys!

Preparing for a mission next week hopefully..... of course my WG is probably not on on my day off, so I'm planning a lunchtime stealth mission.... if I don't make it back, go on without me lads!

[Fungus the Bogeyman]

Don't ever let your selves caught! and if by any chance you will be, Don't confess! I repeat, Don't confess. make up excuses even how silly. because the moment you admit it, every time you get into an argument, she will always bring that one up hahahaha trust me bro!
Exactly.
Even if your partner catches you in the act, you go up to her, slap her on the arse and say “You’re next”

No matter what evidence there is, deny, deny, deny. It wasnt me. I was at work, i was at the gym, i was buying you a birthday/christmas/anniversary present, I was visiting a terminally ill friend, i was being gang raped by a pack of labradors, whatever.

Or argue like a woman, “You dont trust me? How could you after all ive done for you”

Deflect, turn it on them, flatter them, whatever trick you have to use to guilt trip them.

But ultimately. Dont get caught. Be smart when you punt. Always have a reason you are where you are.
Dont make rookie mistakes like smelling way fresher than you should. The wrong soap etc.
Have a secret stash of money. Ive literally got a mate who sent flowers to his paramour on his mrs’s joint bank account.

Luck sometimes will fuck you up the arse. Like coming out of a massage parlour and your wifes best friend happens to walk past etc. Be prepared. I had to use the toilet. I shit my pants and paid them $20 to use the shower etc

[bung72]

But ultimately. Dont get caught. Be smart when you punt. Always have a reason you are where you are.
Dont make rookie mistakes like smelling way fresher than you should. The wrong soap etc.
Have a secret stash of money. Ive literally got a mate who sent flowers to his paramour on his mrs’s joint bank account.
Yes - I've been teased for years over having minimum 2 showers a day, so I'm always fresh.... I take a cake of soap from home to the shop too. Secret stash - check.... Secret account - check. Using the joint account.... fuck me... .I bet that was hard to explain!



Luck sometimes will fuck you up the arse. Like coming out of a massage parlour and your wifes best friend happens to walk past etc. Be prepared. I had to use the toilet. I shit my pants and paid them $20 to use the shower etc
I'm usually packing death to a certain degree that one of my wifes friends will be working in the fucking shop, a WG or receptionist.... I usually pray for pissing rain when I punt - an umbrella makes great cover!

I detailed my red lips above - this week - lots of DFK and DATY with my favourite 20 year old - my lips were chafed as anything afterwards.... and it was noted.... :O

[Axeman123]

If a wife asks out of the blue n you've been doing for a while she knows already. Just hasn't been able to pin you yet.

[crazykyle1984]

Preparing for a mission next week hopefully..... of course my WG is probably not on on my day off, so I'm planning a lunchtime stealth mission.... if I don't make it back, go on without me lads!

We'll be waiting Captain! we believe in you!

[crazykyle1984]

When wife or partner randomly asked you if you had been behaving badly, Look at them straight without flinching an eye! SELL THE DRAMA!

[bung72]

We'll be waiting Captain! we believe in you!

Phoned them late last night - yep, she's now off until Thurs/Fri - 'what time does she start?' - 'we don't know yet.... just call back later in the week...' - they must think we're all unemployed bozos sometimes.... I have schedules that will need massaging for this... which can be hard at the last minute. Strewth!

[DayMan69]

Find a regular at a time that works for you and then establish a routine for that time and day weekly (fortnightly) and stick to it. This becomes established in your missus' head and elicits no ongoing suspicion. Turn off google timeline, stick phone on vibrate. Have a general habit of not answering the ph to missus every so often. 'I was driving/being served/talking etc.'

Have routines that take you away from house on regular basis. Have an excuse ready for the inevitable 'oh such n such saw you in Chatswood' query so you can just roll it off the tongue without hesitation or surprise.

Be James fucking Bond basically.

[bistro]

I dont have one (yet, but hopefully never)...
But the only time i have to punt is after coming back from office... or from work party...
Usually, i already have money spared aside for the deed, and i always go to brothel with less fragrant soap, smell myself and check myself before entering home to ensure i left no trace....

Undies are men greatest weakness and how wife/partner trace us down... our undies meant to be smelly after long day of work, if there are smell of fragrant soaps or traces of sperm or lubricant (from condom)... this is how we got caught....

Face and Hair also, once i went to punt with my friend. When we about to go back home to our wives, i caught lipstick on his neck and some pubic hair, lucky i was around otherwise he would get into trouble... couple years after he got divorced, never mentioned to me why, but knowing how careless he is, im confident that was the reason...

[priapus1966]

Don't make up stories. Telling lies is dumb, it just takes one little inconsistency and things start to unravel. Best to just make punting something which fits into the normal routine of work/play, whatever. There are a number of useful points here about cell phones, I would add one more: just ignore the occasional call from your wife/partner; train her to expect that you are a bit unreliable but never explain why. Message her to say you might be late but nothing more. Precision and too much information is not a good idea, and never ever arrive home with a guilt present, flowers or chocolates - you will have to explain why?

[crazykyle1984]

Don't make up stories. Telling lies is dumb, it just takes one little inconsistency and things start to unravel. Best to just make punting something which fits into the normal routine of work/play, whatever. There are a number of useful points here about cell phones, I would add one more: just ignore the occasional call from your wife/partner; train her to expect that you are a bit unreliable but never explain why. Message her to say you might be late but nothing more. Precision and too much information is not a good idea, and never ever arrive home with a guilt present, flowers or chocolates - you will have to explain why?

Be the man! just like that!

[bung72]

Don't make up stories. Telling lies is dumb, it just takes one little inconsistency and things start to unravel. Best to just make punting something which fits into the normal routine of work/play, whatever. There are a number of useful points here about cell phones, I would add one more: just ignore the occasional call from your wife/partner; train her to expect that you are a bit unreliable but never explain why. Message her to say you might be late but nothing more. Precision and too much information is not a good idea, and never ever arrive home with a guilt present, flowers or chocolates - you will have to explain why?

Cell phones are probably the biggest bane of our life with punting, and also a saviour in that the death of the landline means nobody can check to see if you are home!
I've booked a regular for this week, a bit out of my routine - may involve a little story, but one highly consistent with my rather unpredictable at times occupation... wish me luck!

[danaussieguy]

How Not To Get Caught Cheating?

Use a different phone

Control the cheater's guilt

Remove all traces of your sexcapades

Hide all the physical evidence.

Don't tell ANYONE about your unfaithfulness

Don't hook up with anyone in your proximity

[JJBlows]

"Had someone else do your job!!"

If you have a death wish

[GoldfishMan]

Don't make up stories. Telling lies is dumb, it just takes one little inconsistency and things start to unravel. Best to just make punting something which fits into the normal routine of work/play, whatever. There are a number of useful points here about cell phones, I would add one more: just ignore the occasional call from your wife/partner; train her to expect that you are a bit unreliable but never explain why. Message her to say you might be late but nothing more. Precision and too much information is not a good idea, and never ever arrive home with a guilt present, flowers or chocolates - you will have to explain why?

Yes, this is top advise right here. Try not to be too predictable in picking up calls and going home from work. Miss a few calls. Don't hang up, just let it ring out. Work late a few nights here and there. This lays the groundwork for when you do punt.

[bung72]

This is my problem - for years (prior to punting) I have become Mr Fucking Predictable..... I'm working on gradually morphing out though....

[Rogeryou]

Bunnings!
Have numerous projects always going sourcing materials, viewing and chasing down materials and products. Take her with you, after one weekend she will never want to go again.

[Mrbubbles]

I go when I'm "working from home" and the misses is at work. I do go most whilst travelling.

[bung72]

Yes - but if head off to Bunnings and just browse for an hour, she'll find that more suss than if I came home with lipstick on my neck! 'What did you buy?'.....

[GoldfishMan]

Yes - but if head off to Bunnings and just browse for an hour, she'll find that more suss than if I came home with lipstick on my neck! 'What did you buy?'.....

You can buy 100 screwdrivers when they're on special, stash them somewhere, then just grab one or 2 each time you go to "Bunnings". Maybe grumble about how flimsy these China made tools are, to add some pizzazz.

[bung72]

We all need a trusted punting mate.... someone who can take your c/card somewhere and buy a couple of things right in the middle of your punting expedition....

[ditchtheboss]

We all need a trusted punting mate.... someone who can take your c/card somewhere and buy a couple of things right in the middle of your punting expedition....

Wow, if your partner is scrutinising your expenses to that level, I mean timing of the expense, you are already toast

[bung72]

No, it isn't that bad.... I was just thinking of the details....
She will ask me - 'what was $5 you spent at joe Bloggs Inc.?' though - when she goes through the account each week or two - Christ, it was a fucking piece of slice at the local cafe! I don't believe she suspects anything, she is just a bit paranoid of scams....
I try and use cash more now... :)

[frisson]

No, it isn't that bad.... I was just thinking of the details....
She will ask me - 'what was $5 you spent at joe Bloggs Inc.?' though - when she goes through the account each week or two
I try and use cash more now... :)

Just so you know, this is heavy scrutiny. Understood she is watching for scams, but anyway

No much room for error

Use cash and cash only

[uplatelately]

Just so you know, this is heavy scrutiny. Understood she is watching for scams, but anyway

No much room for error

Use cash and cash only

I agree, cash and cash only, although using card for almost everything else these days it becomes a worry to justify too many cash withdrawals. Cash out on fuel is a good option but only $50 each time.

My closest call was after a DFK session with a 19 yo regular I came home with her perfume smell all over my neck. I got home to find the wife back from work early, I was desperate to get into the shower but keep my distance from the missus. For some reason I picked the cat up and gave him a cuddle right upto my face - maybe i wanted more pussy idk - anyway made it to the shower sidestepping the wife and am scrubbing my sins away when she says to the cat - buddy you smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.

[ditchtheboss]

I agree, cash and cash only, although using card for almost everything else these days it becomes a worry to justify too many cash withdrawals. Cash out on fuel is a good option but only $50 each time.

My closest call was after a DFK session with a 19 yo regular I came home with her perfume smell all over my neck. I got home to find the wife back from work early, I was desperate to get into the shower but keep my distance from the missus. For some reason I picked the cat up and gave him a cuddle right upto my face - maybe i wanted more pussy idk - anyway made it to the shower sidestepping the wife and am scrubbing my sins away when she says to the cat - buddy you smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.
That was sooooo close and yes buddy has been cheating on her

[Mr.Robot]

I agree, cash and cash only, although using card for almost everything else these days it becomes a worry to justify too many cash withdrawals. Cash out on fuel is a good option but only $50 each time.

My closest call was after a DFK session with a 19 yo regular I came home with her perfume smell all over my neck. I got home to find the wife back from work early, I was desperate to get into the shower but keep my distance from the missus. For some reason I picked the cat up and gave him a cuddle right upto my face - maybe i wanted more pussy idk - anyway made it to the shower sidestepping the wife and am scrubbing my sins away when she says to the cat - buddy you smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.

Surely if the perfume smell is that strong on you, it would be all over your clothes? Maybe she suspects hence the out loud comment lol

[bung72]

I agree, cash and cash only, although using card for almost everything else these days it becomes a worry to justify too many cash withdrawals. Cash out on fuel is a good option but only $50 each time.

My closest call was after a DFK session with a 19 yo regular I came home with her perfume smell all over my neck. I got home to find the wife back from work early, I was desperate to get into the shower but keep my distance from the missus. For some reason I picked the cat up and gave him a cuddle right upto my face - maybe i wanted more pussy idk - anyway made it to the shower sidestepping the wife and am scrubbing my sins away when she says to the cat - buddy you smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.

SHIT! Missed by that much!
I do fuel cashouts, officeworks cashout, prepaid credit cards work well too…. So I pay with cash, and occasionally a prepaid.

[frisson]

...when she says to the cat - buddy you smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.

Another red flag. She sounds very insecure. Maybe a girlfriend of hers, or someone in her family has suffered from cheating.

Be very careful

[Ziggurat]

That comment from Uplatelatley's wife. Asking the cat if it is cheating on her means she smelt perfume on it just after he'd had it draped around his neck.

[Axeman123]

Like I said when they ask directly or too close, she's onto something. That I do know.

[frisson]

Like I said when they ask directly or too close, she's onto something. That I do know.

Women have very strong intuition, better than men's

You have to be aware of their suspicions but at the same time don't get annoyed

Getting annoyed with a woman is a sign for them that something is wrong
Act innocent and don't petty argue and their suspicions lessens. Obviously do not leave any clues either

[bung72]

That WG might need to tone her perfume down a touch I'd think..... I love a great smelling girl, but not strong perfume - for this reason.... that freshly shampooed hair smell really knocks me dead! There is a girl up here, a stunner, she smells gorgeous from head to toe, a very subtle body lotion smell I'd say. Awesome....

[Refedust]

or Just say, i didnt know they do extras, i only went there thinking of a massage. works for me because i never visit anything beside massage parlour though

[danaussieguy]

Women have very strong intuition, better than men's

You have to be aware of their suspicions but at the same time don't get annoyed

Getting annoyed with a woman is a sign for them that something is wrong
Act innocent and don't petty argue and their suspicions lessens. Obviously do not leave any clues either

Yes! tell me about it hehehe

[GoldfishMan]

That comment from Uplatelatley's wife. Asking the cat if it is cheating on her means she smelt perfume on it just after he'd had it draped around his neck.

One big difference between men and women is men are a lot less subtle than women when it comes to communication. We're quite poor at picking up the subtle cues from them.

His wife said that within earshot, so he could hear it. Do you think that was a coincidence?

[ditchtheboss]

One big difference between men and women is men are a lot less subtle than women when it comes to communication. We're quite poor at picking up the subtle cues from them.

His wife said that within earshot, so he could hear it. Do you think that was a coincidence?

Brother is toast, she knows

[bung72]

Brother is toast, she knows

It's a concern.... rather than say 'oh don't you smell nice pussy' she used the term 'cheating'.... that was a warning that she is suspicious I think..... is that why she was home from work early as well??

[Mr.Robot]

And to think that the perfume was strong enough to get on the cat. She probably went to smell his clothes when he went shower or when she did the laundry lol.

[Axeman123]

One big difference between men and women is men are a lot less subtle than women when it comes to communication. We're quite poor at picking up the subtle cues from them.

His wife said that within earshot, so he could hear it. Do you think that was a coincidence? No. It was sent as a warning shot.

[bung72]

No. It was sent as a warning shot.

Straight across the bow too….

[priapus1966]

My closest call was after a DFK session with a 19 yo regular I came home with her perfume smell all over my neck. I got home to find the wife back from work early, I was desperate to get into the shower but keep my distance from the missus. For some reason I picked the cat up and gave him a cuddle right upto my face - maybe i wanted more pussy idk - anyway made it to the shower sidestepping the wife and am scrubbing my sins away when she says to the cat - buddy you smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.

It's worth remembering that Japanese women tend to use only very subtle perfumes. Koreans are usually the same.

[GoldfishMan]

Whatever it is, if a girl wore Chloe perfume, that's it I'm dead. I will turn into beastmode and fuck her with so much passion! Something about that perfume just does it for me... I think I can cream just from smelling it!

[bung72]

Whatever it is, if a girl wore Chloe perfume, that's it I'm dead. I will turn into beastmode and fuck her with so much passion! Something about that perfume just does it for me... I think I can cream just from smelling it!

Guerlain Champs-Élysées does it for me like that.... I remember when I first smelled it too - it was worn by a plasmapheresis nurse at the Red Cross in Brisbane, when I used to donate plasma every 2 or 3 weeks.... smelled great.... after a few times I had to ask her what it was... made her day I think (I was only about 21-22 at the time... :) )

[frisson]

Guerlain Champs-Élysées does it for me like that.... I remember when I first smelled it too - it was worn by a plasmapheresis nurse at the Red Cross in Brisbane, when I used to donate plasma every 2 or 3 weeks.... smelled great.... after a few times I had to ask her what it was... made her day I think (I was only about 21-22 at the time... :) )

Is the perfume the reason you kept donating blood? Were you turning up twice a day?

[frisson]

My closest call was after a DFK session with a 19 yo regular I came home with her perfume smell all over my neck.
You smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.
It's also a reminder how suspicious women wait for you to make an easy mistake

1)At the start of every punt, always hang up your shirt and singlet on the room door inside before you hug or kiss a lady, so your shirt stays perfume free

2)At the end of every punt, hug and kiss the lady before, not after, your shower
On the way out just kiss her cheek and hold her hand, then wash both before you leave

Your partner, remember, is waiting for you to forget these steps

[bung72]

Is the perfume the reason you kept donating blood? Were you turning up twice a day?

No... it was purely an altruistic gesture. From memory she was pretty old at the time... I suppose she was 35! :lol:

[bung72]

It's also a reminder how suspicious women wait for you to make an easy mistake

1)At the start of every punt, always hang up your shirt and singlet on the room door inside before you hug or kiss a lady, so your shirt stays perfume free

2)At the end of every punt, hug and kiss the lady before, not after, your shower
On the way out just kiss her cheek and hold her hand, then wash both before you leave

Your partner, remember, is waiting for you to forget these steps

The girl I see doesn't seem to wear any, probably a good thing from the above perspective.... but I love a nice smelling girl! Maybe I should buy her some Guerlain..... I'd take the risk for that smell again!

[danaussieguy]

The girl I see doesn't seem to wear any, probably a good thing from the above perspective.... but I love a nice smelling girl! Maybe I should buy her some Guerlain..... I'd take the risk for that smell again!

Same here, I like good smelling skin!

[bung72]

Lunchtime sneak attack planned tomorrow.... need to get out of work on time, get home, then negotiate my way round wifey who will be working from home.... then back to work after! The things we do for these girls and our urges!

[GoldfishMan]

Lunchtime sneak attack planned tomorrow.... need to get out of work on time, get home, then negotiate my way round wifey who will be working from home.... then back to work after! The things we do for these girls and our urges!

Get home? What the hell for?

[ditchtheboss]

Get home? What the hell for?

That’s right. Why go home? Just tell her you got busy at work and don’t have time to go home

[bung72]

That’s right. Why go home? Just tell her you got busy at work and don’t have time to go home

That would probably be more of a stretch.
I always walk to work.... always... so this way I can keep the routine going, and one little fib related to a work routine I do sometimes, and I'm off.... it just so happens the days the wife is in the office are the days my WG has off, every fucking week!
I'll duck home, she'll probably be in the study, I'll cook a little lunch, feed it to the dog and text her on the way out the door....

[ditchtheboss]

That would probably be more of a stretch.
I always walk to work.... always... so this way I can keep the routine going, and one little fib related to a work routine I do sometimes, and I'm off.... it just so happens the days the wife is in the office are the days my WG has off, every fucking week!
I'll duck home, she'll probably be in the study, I'll cook a little lunch, feed it to the dog and text her on the way out the door....

Whatever works mate

[GoldfishMan]

That would probably be more of a stretch.
I always walk to work.... always... so this way I can keep the routine going, and one little fib related to a work routine I do sometimes, and I'm off.... it just so happens the days the wife is in the office are the days my WG has off, every fucking week!
I'll duck home, she'll probably be in the study, I'll cook a little lunch, feed it to the dog and text her on the way out the door....

Lol, ok, I guess you've done it many times before so you must know what you're doing.

Interesting point about your WG being always off when your wife has an office day. You don't suppose your WG has a part time office job and they actually work at the same place, do you?? Lol...

[earl9122]

going to the gym when they’ve never broken a sweat in their life, it might sound alarm bells. Similarly, if they’ve been working late every night for the past few months then you might get suspicious.

[bung72]

Lol, ok, I guess you've done it many times before so you must know what you're doing.

Interesting point about your WG being always off when your wife has an office day. You don't suppose your WG has a part time office job and they actually work at the same place, do you?? Lol...

I've never punted in my lunchbreak before, have while wife was at home working though.... it isn't really any different. She'll know I won't be able to return calls/texts either while 'out'....
and... I doubt it!

[bung72]

Touchdown... preparing to initiate extraction procedure! Anxiety is high!

[earl9122]

Remind her of your commitment to the relationship and your desire to make her feel loved and secure. Ask if there are any specific actions or behaviors you can change or improve to make her feel more secure in the relationship.

[bung72]

No sweat! Even got home to not find my bags packed on the verandah.... :)
Punting cash and soap - restowed.

[kaos]

+1 gym. I go to the gym multiple times a week since covid lockdowns ended. not only has it improved my fitness and strength, but i now have the perfect cover to be out of the house for an hour or two. funnily enough i've never used this time to get up to no good because i do value the health benefits. i've also shown my significant other photos/videos of my progress (leg press, pull ups, etc), to further build credibility to this activity

i also have lots of ex-colleagues/friends that i try to stay in touch with, so i have used them in the past as a convenient excuse. Bonus points if you actually do catch up with that mate, and go punting after the catch up

helping elderly family with errands/health appointments, etc - i won't lie about this, but after my family obligations are done, i'll may add a punt in as an extra if the WL i'm keen on seeing is available. if i've been out 3hrs doing legit stuff, what's another hour?

approach these opportunities like cricket, as opposed to baseball i.e, you don't need to swing at everything, and you're allowed to let things through to the keeper if there's a chance of getting caught

approaching 13 years in the game now seeing privates, shop girls, and a couple of SBs

[kaos]

very interesting thread and stories by the way!

[bung72]

Years ago I had a little 'fling' with another married woman.... she came to my place while the wife was working one night. Beforehand I actually took photos of the spare room, so I could reassemble the joint afterwards. We drank some of a bottle of wine - the leftovers were thrown away and only one of the glasses was washed and put away. I did a forensic search of the place for a misplaced scrunchie or some other bloody artefact afterwards. I even noticed her small wet footprints on the bathroom mat after we had a shower.... its the little things that kill us gents.... although leaving two wine glasses out would be a real rookie error! :)

[ditchtheboss]

No sweat! Even got home to not find my bags packed on the verandah.... :)
Punting cash and soap - restowed.

Well congratulations. How about a link to that AR fit us to have s look. Thanks in advance

[bung72]

Well congratulations. How about a link to that AR fit us to have s look. Thanks in advance

I've never read an AR... in fact just looked at the forum for the first time - not really my scene. I just come here to chew the fat and shoot the breeze with like minded dudes.... in any case, I'm not in Sydney.... :)

[earl9122]

I've never read an AR... in fact just looked at the forum for the first time - not really my scene. I just come here to chew the fat and shoot the breeze with like minded dudes.... in any case, I'm not in Sydney.... :)

That's perfectly fine! People visit online forums and communities for various reasons, and it's entirely up to you how you choose to engage with them. It's great to hear that you're here to have casual conversations and connect with others who share your interests.

[steelfreddy2]

This thread is interesting lol hmmmmm

[pornonporn]

You don't give me rim jobs so i have to go somewhere else to get my ass cleaned
And she said fair enough
I would never lick your shit hole you piece of shit

[11Bravo]

Dementia - one of the few benefits of being old.

[sardon]

Years ago I had a little 'fling' with another married woman.... she came to my place while the wife was working one night. Beforehand I actually took photos of the spare room, so I could reassemble the joint afterwards. We drank some of a bottle of wine - the leftovers were thrown away and only one of the glasses was washed and put away. I did a forensic search of the place for a misplaced scrunchie or some other bloody artefact afterwards. I even noticed her small wet footprints on the bathroom mat after we had a shower.... its the little things that kill us gents.... although leaving two wine glasses out would be a real rookie error! :)

Real detective level stuff.. :cool2:

[earl9122]

Practice Poker Face hehehehe

[imyouraussieguy]

Overtime at work - get your officemates to be on the same page as you. so if any wifey investigation happens, you're all have the same answer. keep it consistent

[cn6666]

Only punt when mrs is at work or interstate and never been got caught or suspected even once in the last 25 years with her but i have been punting for almost 33 years.

[90512]

I agree, cash and cash only, although using card for almost everything else these days it becomes a worry to justify too many cash withdrawals. Cash out on fuel is a good option but only $50 each time.

My closest call was after a DFK session with a 19 yo regular I came home with her perfume smell all over my neck. I got home to find the wife back from work early, I was desperate to get into the shower but keep my distance from the missus. For some reason I picked the cat up and gave him a cuddle right upto my face - maybe i wanted more pussy idk - anyway made it to the shower sidestepping the wife and am scrubbing my sins away when she says to the cat - buddy you smell funny, have you been cheating on me. I fucking died.
Tell them no perfume, often they use cheap shit that reeks.

[tommyb]

Gym is one i use especially useful because you can say you left your phone in the locker for a hour...

otherwise if i have to do errands ill do them during my lunch breaks but tell my partner ill get them done after work one day that usually buys u a extra hour or two

[Double_Adapter]

Years ago I had a little 'fling' with another married woman.... she came to my place while the wife was working one night. Beforehand I actually took photos of the spare room, so I could reassemble the joint afterwards. We drank some of a bottle of wine - the leftovers were thrown away and only one of the glasses was washed and put away. I did a forensic search of the place for a misplaced scrunchie or some other bloody artefact afterwards. I even noticed her small wet footprints on the bathroom mat after we had a shower.... its the little things that kill us gents.... although leaving two wine glasses out would be a real rookie error! :)

Love your forensic work bro! Though you forgot to mention one important element.....female hair
The shit can be almost invisible to the naked eye, use a garden blower or hi pressure suction vacuum to get rid of the evidence

[90512]

Haha, took photos of rooms and stuff to reassemble later too. Fkn sketchy af. Thats toooo high risk just for a root. Then I learnt 'dont shit where you eat'. I just went to massage shops after the stress got too much. Easier, cheaper, better value. Clean and tidy.

[90512]

Near the end of my starter marriage, we got asian homestays for extra cash. That ok until the +18yr old jap and kr girls arrived...their #1 objective when they secure a family to stay with is seduce the homestay dad..fkn little whores are cunning and dripping wet.

[hornedbeast]

Near the end of my starter marriage, we got asian homestays for extra cash. That ok until the +18yr old jap and kr girls arrived...their #1 objective when they secure a family to stay with is seduce the homestay dad..fkn little whores are cunning and dripping wet.

Taught them English huh? How to moan when homestay daddy's giant unsheathed knob penetrates their virgin bald pussy flaps!

[Migala]

Just listen to it wasn't me by Rick Rock and shaggy

[ReginaldBubbles]

Near the end of my starter marriage, we got asian homestays for extra cash. That ok until the +18yr old jap and kr girls arrived...their #1 objective when they secure a family to stay with is seduce the homestay dad..fkn little whores are cunning and dripping wet.

Did you used to write for penthouse forum?

[90512]

She was no virgin lol

[90512]

Im a good writer...stories are fact.

[robnorth]

Years ago I had a little 'fling' with another married woman.... she came to my place while the wife was working one night. Beforehand I actually took photos of the spare room, so I could reassemble the joint afterwards. We drank some of a bottle of wine - the leftovers were thrown away and only one of the glasses was washed and put away. I did a forensic search of the place for a misplaced scrunchie or some other bloody artefact afterwards. I even noticed her small wet footprints on the bathroom mat after we had a shower.... its the little things that kill us gents.... although leaving two wine glasses out would be a real rookie error! :)

Jesus Christ... this is red hot AF. Don't shit where you eat boss.