Ways that WLs waste time. What have you experienced?

[Ghost2hauntU]

Here’s a list of some habits I’ve come across:

1. She leaves the room as you shower - you done showering and are waiting for her to return.
2. She stuffs and shuffles shit around the room pretending to get things into order.
3. She’s on her phone searching for tunes far too long.
4. She tokes and insists you puff with her. I’m cool with it but not for half the session.
5. She fellates too long to get you sensitive and won’t move on to other service.
6. She talks too much

I’m sure I’ve left some out. What have you experienced?

[Sibon]

7. Talking on phone with her friends or next-of-kins or even using customer time to conduct private business with the lawyer or the bank on phone.

Some of the MLs in 14 Burwood are worst offenders.

[GoldfishMan]

Here’s a list of some habits I’ve come across:

1. She leaves the room as you shower - you done showering and are waiting for her to return.
2. She stuffs and shuffles shit around the room pretending to get things into order.
3. She’s on her phone searching for tunes far too long.
4. She tokes and insists you puff with her. I’m cool with it but not for half the session.
5. She fellates too long to get you sensitive and won’t move on to other service.
6. She talks too much

I’m sure I’ve left some out. What have you experienced?

How about that extra long shower routine that doesn't include any play, just taking extra long time to wash either you or herself? That gets on my nerve a little bit.

To be frank, I've been lucky not to have met many WGs who tried to waste time. At least it didn't appear like they were trying to do it.

I rack my brains and can only remember one, J Kawaii from the old 5*, but even that one I didn't think she did it to deliberately waste time. It's just her routine. Long shower, and meticulous arrangement of stuff on the bed.

BTW, point 5 could be seen as great service by a lot of bros here I reckon!

[Axeman123]

Long showers I can tolerate but not at both ends of the session. It tells me " You can leave now!".

[Hidden Python]

Some places you visit feels like they start the time as soon as you step into the brothel and ask you how long you want to stay and try to collect the money from you straight away before you even get to see the girls.
Than they lead you to the waiting room, where if feels like forever before a single girl even shows up and when she’s not your type, the manager will say she is the only one available
Than its girls turn to start wasting time, she will go back and get her little cosmetic purse that she holds her condoms and lube in,
Then leave the room to get towels,
Then pull i forgot my phone and charger,
So that’s a good 15 minutes wasted on your hour,
Than she goes back and change the bed sheets another 5 minutes
Than she makes you have a shower than she will shower, another 10 minutes
So that’s 30 minutes wasted before she even starts,
Then she makes some lame excuse i am tired, you are too big, don’t touch me, don’t kiss me, just don’t do anything, just let me waste your time and money.

This is why you need to be a King and not a simp when you punt,
Find a regular place that treats you like a VIP and where the girls always give great service,
As the average punt is now around $200-$250 for the hour,

[JSteel96]

8 she wants to eat sushi lunch before you even start.
9. she wants to know your financial situation to learn if you got lots of money. If she knows you do she will perform better?

[JSteel96]

Some places you visit feels like they start the time as soon as you step into the brothel and ask you how long you want to stay and try to collect the money from you straight away before you even get to see the girls.,

The good old days 20 years ago in a good Chatswood brothel they'd offer you a drink first and if you did not know what girl you want they sit you in a room. Then one by one the girls would come out and intro themselves. I found in those days the service better than these days where they just want your money and get you in and out of there as fast as possible and often they only have one girl who you can't even view till you pay up. In the old line up days I often went for the one with the nicest smile. Next deciding factor which one had the biggest tits. and always had good rooms with spas in the places I went. Dang I remember massages and spas first not rushed get to know each other a little then sex then shower together at the end. How things has changed, you pay more now days and get a rushed service sometimes with a gal your not that keen on. And places with no showers at all now days.

[pornonporn]

Plays with the fan settings when there's only 3 settings

[1inchguy]

After massage, she supposedly goes out to get a hot towel. I'm laying face down not sure why it's taking so long. Maybe it takes awhile to hot the towel?
Maybe she is heating it up the old fashion way by leaving the towel out in the sun?
After 20mins I was fed up waiting I got up out my clothes on. It wasn't until 30mins later she came back cause she took a shower wtf.
Anyway I didn't want tod anything anymore and left. She goes to me next time can fuck twice.
No thanks

[Sibon]

One ML in Artarmon came into the room so sweaty and sticky that I had to send her to have a bath out of my time.

[l337dude]

I've experienced more time wasting from MLs, typically there are more variables, such as hot towels, going in and out the room etc, taking multiple showers between part 3, part 1 etc, I once had a girl taking out my condom after part 3 to dispose of it and disappear for almost 10 mins, girl probably took my condom to the garbage bin on the next street :shout:

For FS shops the most common one is talking too much, that's why I always refrain from too much chat, only a little to break the ice but that's it, some girls just couldn't stop talking once you get them started and it really kills the mood for me, other stuff like time wasting cat bath etc I usually just take charge and tell the girl to skip that and go straight to BJ.

[ColesBag]

I lurk on other forums & there are series of hilarious reviews about this French hooker in Sydney who talks for 45 minutes then is a lousy lay for 15 minutes. Blows my mind.

[11Bravo]

I've experienced more time wasting from MLs, typically there are more variables, such as hot towels, going in and out the room etc, taking multiple showers between part 3, part 1 etc, I once had a girl taking out my condom after part 3 to dispose of it and disappear for almost 10 mins, girl probably took my condom to the garbage bin on the next street :shout:

For FS shops the most common one is talking too much, that's why I always refrain from too much chat, only a little to break the ice but that's it, some girls just couldn't stop talking once you get them started and it really kills the mood for me, other stuff like time wasting cat bath etc I usually just take charge and tell the girl to skip that and go straight to BJ.

Maybe it's because my Sydney punting (RnT) has been limited and the odds haven't caught up with me, or maybe, like the old knight said, "Choose wisely" and I have. Or maybe it's the shops I patronize. But I haven't hit any of this crap.

OK, once when she was doing double duty as receptionist and provider, I called her on it and was going to walk sans extras. We came to an agreement, and my next visit (yes, I went back with stipulations as I saw potential), she apologized and I had a good session.

When a hot towel is used, they have to step out of the room, but not long, and I do hear the ding of the microwave as it finishes.

Perhaps I don't come across as a newbie but as someone who's been around. Or perhaps it's the bit of chat at the beginning to acknowledge her as a person. The smart ones are very astute, so maybe my face and body language speak volumes. Or maybe they can sense I like regulars and so with good service I will, like Arnold, be back. But as I've said, first mobile appearance is a yellow card, another is a red card. Whatever, hasn't been my experience (knock on wood).

[Ghost2hauntU]

I lurk on other forums & there are series of hilarious reviews about this French hooker in Sydney who talks for 45 minutes then is a lousy lay for 15 minutes. Blows my mind.

Yeah mate, and they are not just French. I’ve experienced this last year with a WL. Session stared well, we fucked about 15 min, she rode cowgirl well and then a massive stream of consciousness from her. Cock got soft and she kept yapping about her life. Cock got soft heading all of this but then she goes “you can fuck me no condom”. And that made up for all of it.

But yeah, taking is probly the biggest time wasting imho.

[earl9122]

Here’s a list of some habits I’ve come across:

1. She leaves the room as you shower - you done showering and are waiting for her to return.
2. She stuffs and shuffles shit around the room pretending to get things into order.
3. She’s on her phone searching for tunes far too long.
4. She tokes and insists you puff with her. I’m cool with it but not for half the session.
5. She fellates too long to get you sensitive and won’t move on to other service.
6. She talks too much

I’m sure I’ve left some out. What have you experienced?

The most experienced WL's will try their best to waste time as it wil leave them a few to spare with you. oldest trick in the books

[Ghost2hauntU]

The most experienced WL's will try their best to waste time as it wil leave them a few to spare with you. oldest trick in the books

Can you elaborate?

[11Bravo]

The most experienced WL's will try their best to waste time as it wil leave them a few to spare with you. oldest trick in the books

Can you elaborate?
I wouldn't be holding my breath there for an elaboration given earl-the-pearl's LACK of AR's... 100 posts, nary an AR to be seen. One of the newer generation of members.

[wasabi10]

massaging at same spot over and over again....

[NightShift]

Girls looking at instagram

Girls Vaping

Girls messaging people during massage

Girls leaving the room for some reason: to get towels or water etc..

Girls leaving the room during shower instead of showering together.

None of those are super bad that I’ve experienced, but if they vape or text people I’ll decide not to see them again…( vape gives me headaches and girl’s stopping the massage every 10 seconds to reply text is annoying..)

[l337dude]

massaging at same spot over and over again....

Maybe she found a knot lol.

[Zenxxx]

What sucks is not only when they waste time but also try and shortchange you time as well

[11Bravo]

Girls looking at instagram

Girls messaging people during massage

None of those are super bad that I’ve experienced, but if they vape or text people I’ll decide not to see them again…( vape gives me headaches and girl’s stopping the massage every 10 seconds to reply text is annoying..)

As I've said, my solution to massage interruptus is first offense: yellow card, a verbal warning. Second offense is a red card and the game is over. I just say "Finish" and roll off the table, getting dressed. Yes, I've lost part of the massage fee, but since no extras have been provided yet, no extra payment due. Given that the ML gets most of her coin from the extras, and she has spent time with me with only the shop's fee to her to show for it, that is a hit for her. If she complains, I just tell her that her "extra" is the time saved with me leaving early. If she has an attitude adjustment, then I might reconsider. But my rule for decades in all situations has been "If I put my shoes on, I AM walking..." I don't bother with refunds but will tell the mamasan exactly why I am leaving early. Some care, others not, but for sure, no repeat business for her.

[wasabi10]

Maybe she found a knot lol.

Hahaha, I wish I did have a knot so it wouldnt be a waste of time!

[frisson]

The good old days 20 years ago in a good Chatswood brothel they'd offer you a drink first and if you did not know what girl you want they sit you in a room. Then one by one the girls would come out and intro themselves. I found in those days the service better than these days where they just want your money and get you in and out of there as fast as possible and often they only have one girl who you can't even view till you pay up. In the old line up days I often went for the one with the nicest smile

Why do we accept this fall on service standards?

And why can't the WL just have a shower at the end of a session, instead of reshowering at the start of a session also. Doesn't their skin dry out?

[ColesBag]

Maybe she found a knot lol.

Had one today & she founds two knots on each shoulder & one on a calf muscle so she really went to town on it, so much so the massage went over by 10 minutes.

Oh & I also blew on her tits.

[Zenxxx]

Why do we accept this fall on service standards?

And why can't the WL just have a shower at the end of a session, instead of reshowering at the start of a session also. Doesn't their skin dry out?

Don't mind showering if its together, doesnt go for too long and there is some play involved.

[imyouraussieguy]

From what I experienced in Manila punting, I get annoyed when they enter the room late. I don't know if that is the play the papasan and WL's do to waste client's time. though I usually get the deed done. it's just me and my experience

[schloong]

I was with my regular ML last Sunday for our usual 3 hours. A couple of times she was playing with her phone & I chipped her about it as she hadn't done this in any of our previous sessions, albit in a friendly manner. She put it down & then did the same a couple of other times during our session.

I didn't say anything at the time but just before I was leaving she asked me when I was going to see her again and hinted at this coming weekend. I told her I had commitments for the next 2 weekends (which I do btw) & she looked kinda disappointed and sad. I made a rather snide remark about her playing with her phone on "my time" and she just shrugged it off.

I will probably see her again in a few weeks time and see how it goes. If it's more of the same phone shit, then I think it will be bye bye for good and start my search for my next regular... :smile:

[Sher1888]

Ml gives you CIM, but no sex as reserve to a potential boyfriend. I don't understand this logic lol

[11Bravo]

I was with my regular ML last Sunday for our usual 3 hours.
...
I will probably see her again in a few weeks time and see how it goes. If it's more of the same phone shit, then I think it will be bye bye for good and start my search for my next regular... :smile:Bummer when the dreaded complacency crops up. Sometimes a gap in visits works, other times not. Both sides can fill the gap, either temporarily or permanently. All depends on how business is for HER. Both your and her stock value can fluctuate due to market conditions. And while I have a pitching rotation, I do keep several prospects ready to step in. When a regular drops out, I view it as a scouting opportunity. Neither she nor I are irreplaceable. Good luck either way.

[GoldfishMan]

I was with my regular ML last Sunday for our usual 3 hours. A couple of times she was playing with her phone & I chipped her about it as she hadn't done this in any of our previous sessions, albit in a friendly manner. She put it down & then did the same a couple of other times during our session.

I didn't say anything at the time but just before I was leaving she asked me when I was going to see her again and hinted at this coming weekend. I told her I had commitments for the next 2 weekends (which I do btw) & she looked kinda disappointed and sad. I made a rather snide remark about her playing with her phone on "my time" and she just shrugged it off.

I will probably see her again in a few weeks time and see how it goes. If it's more of the same phone shit, then I think it will be bye bye for good and start my search for my next regular... :smile:

If you see her regularly, why don't you just be upfront with her and lay down the rules of your sessions? 3 hours is a long time, and it's not the same as 3 X 1hr sessions where there are breaks in between for her to fire off a quick message, etc. So it could happen that either one of you might have to do something on your phones during that time. Even in professional settings, people would normally get a break if it was an exceptionally long meeting or workshop, for example.

You can perhaps come up with a small compromise, like she can use a few minute at the halfway mark to check her phone, etc. Just treat it like giving the girl a short break.

But boy, 3 hours! I personally could never make myself stay in one of those rooms for that long, regardless how hot the girl was.

[schloong]

Thanks for the comments gents - much appreciated. Yep, will see how things go next time & will keep you posted...

[scotty3d]

The extra long shower once I've finished is my favourite. I tell them if they shower that long with every customer its not good for their skin. Thanks to this forum i don't come across it too often, but a few months back I saw this girl named Sugar at 479. Best sidewinder boobs I've ever experienced, but boy could she waste time. I never went back.

[l337dude]

A 3-hour session? fuck me dead, I would probably want to waste some time as well if I booked that long =P

Did you take a nap with her during the session as well? Hope you set the alarm right otherwise it might just become a very expensive nap, just kidding :)

[17012430]

Melissa at SP was by far the biggest dud punt and time waster I’ve encountered. An hour session of her just talking nonsense about her boyfriend with light touches that barely pass as a massage.

[l337dude]

The same Melissa at LeSoleil? Or a different girl?

[Ghost2hauntU]

Gr8 responses lads.

There’s also those that like to finish early. They’re quite rare but watch out - they’ll want you to cum quick and early on the session so that they may have it easier and waste your time not offering additional service after you’ve cum.
Watch out for those.

I’d rather have a mediocre but a solid fuck that lasts an hour, than an energiser bunny who runs out of steam at half time.

[CountryPunter]

The same Melissa at LeSoleil? Or a different girl?

Can’t specifically answer your question but can say from personal experience that the Melissa at Le Soleil is very good and there was definitely no time wasted. Very good massage and first class extras available.

[schloong]

A 3-hour session? fuck me dead, I would probably want to waste some time as well if I booked that long =P

Did you take a nap with her during the session as well? Hope you set the alarm right otherwise it might just become a very expensive nap, just kidding :)


Many thanks for the feedback guys.

Just some additional info too: She doesn't usually work on weekends which is why she suggested it. We've had I think four 3 hour sessions so far & the first 2 were on a Saturday. Our routine usually went like this: first hour or so both in our undies & lying on the massage table just canoodling, DFK'ing and generally fooling around. We'd finish up by me giving her a good DATY & she'd have a big 'O' or two, then we dressed & went out for a coffee and stroll around the local area, through the markets and on to a second hand shop like Vinnies, then back to the shop for some serious fun. After we finished she would make me some lunch & then time to go.

We have had 2 Sunday sessions so far & things are a lot quieter with much fewer people around. Same start, then go for a coffee while she bought some lunch, then go to my car & grab my picnic rug & a couple of cushions, then walk to a nearby park and have our little picnic. Just a nice time all round. Then back to the shop for same same fun, 'tho we always mix things up a bit too.

So that's the 3 hours scenario & we have been enjoying it very much too. Will see how things are when I go back in about a fortnight...

[GoldfishMan]

Many thanks for the feedback guys.

Just some additional info too: She doesn't usually work on weekends which is why she suggested it. We've had I think four 3 hour sessions so far & the first 2 were on a Saturday. Our routine usually went like this: first hour or so both in our undies & lying on the massage table just canoodling, DFK'ing and generally fooling around. We'd finish up by me giving her a good DATY & she'd have a big 'O' or two, then we dressed & went out for a coffee and stroll around the local area, through the markets and on to a second hand shop like Vinnies, then back to the shop for some serious fun. After we finished she would make me some lunch & then time to go.

We have had 2 Sunday sessions so far & things are a lot quieter with much fewer people around. Same start, then go for a coffee while she bought some lunch, then go to my car & grab my picnic rug & a couple of cushions, then walk to a nearby park and have our little picnic. Just a nice time all round. Then back to the shop for same same fun, 'tho we always mix things up a bit too.

So that's the 3 hours scenario & we have been enjoying it very much too. Will see how things are when I go back in about a fortnight...

I don't understand it. If you and her did all that, how did you conclude that her playing on her phone constituted "time wasting" and all the other stuff wasn't? I mean, most of the stuff you mentioned are not what people do in an MP. Making lunch, going to Vinnie's, having a coffee. Those are not time wasting, but her using her phone is?

Hope you don't get me wrong. Not trying to attack you or anything. I just read what you wrote and the only thing that comes to mind was, this is a date. And on a date with a girl, I would never put any restrictions on what she can do with her phone unless it was really extreme.

[Axeman123]

I don't understand it. If you and her did all that, how did you conclude that her playing on her phone constituted "time wasting" and all the other stuff wasn't? I mean, most of the stuff you mentioned are not what people do in an MP. Making lunch, going to Vinnie's, having a coffee. Those are not time wasting, but her using her phone is?

Hope you don't get me wrong. Not trying to attack you or anything. I just read what you wrote and the only thing that comes to mind was, this is a date. And on a date with a girl, I would never put any restrictions on what she can do with her phone unless it was really extreme. Bruised male ego I'd say. Didn't have ladies full attention.....if any.

[11Bravo]

I don't understand it. If you and her did all that, how did you conclude that her playing on her phone constituted "time wasting" and all the other stuff wasn't? Yea, but... I'm OLD, and for me, smart phones change the equation. Back when it was flip phones (yes, I'm THAT old), I even restricted their use over 12 hours on a LT gig. With smart phones, they can, and are, often mesmerizing. How many times have you seen a table of people out at a restaurant and every one is on their phone, in their OWN little world.

For me, it'd depend on what I was doing. If I was on my mobile, OK, but if I wasn't... When I'm in the dentist's chair, I don't expect her to be taking breaks on her mobile, even while I'm taking a break to rinse. The way I look at it, it's NOT a date, IF he is PAYING her for her time. And if it was a date, then, like I say, I'm old school, and if she's on her mobile, fine, up to her, but that's going to be a "talk to you later" not.

It's not a matter of ego. You're paying her for her time (with an understanding of what will occur during that time). What's the old cliche, "he who pays the piper calls the tune..."

[GoldfishMan]

Yea, but... I'm OLD, and for me, smart phones change the equation. Back when it was flip phones (yes, I'm THAT old), I even restricted their use over 12 hours on a LT gig. With smart phones, they can, and are, often mesmerizing. How many times have you seen a table of people out at a restaurant and every one is on their phone, in their OWN little world.

For me, it'd depend on what I was doing. If I was on my mobile, OK, but if I wasn't... When I'm in the dentist's chair, I don't expect her to be taking breaks on her mobile, even while I'm taking a break to rinse. The way I look at it, it's NOT a date, IF he is PAYING her for her time. And if it was a date, then, like I say, I'm old school, and if she's on her mobile, fine, up to her, but that's going to be a "talk to you later" not.

It's not a matter of ego. You're paying her for her time (with an understanding of what will occur during that time). What's the old cliche, "he who pays the piper calls the tune..."

Ok, I get it. You don't like people going onto their phones when you're paying for their time. But what about the other stuff he mentioned? Making lunch? She's focusing on the lunch, not him. Having a coffee, is she allowed to take in the scenery or does she have to keep her eyes always on him? Cos I don't see the diff between her enjoying the scenery or reading the menu on the table, vs going on her phone? She's still got her attention on something else.

And I don't see how it could be fun or relaxing to take a girl out and then have to monitor her like this. Feels more like work, like you're her manager or something, lol.

[frisson]

Regarding phones

The mobile phone is a business tool for ML/WL

I remember a 1 hour session with ML last year. About 10 minutes in, she has left her phone in the bed next to me, and gets a text saying
'Hi it's Ray, how are you? can I book you at 4pm for 30 minutes'
I saw the message on her screen
She looked quickly but didn't respond. That's business and I respect her need to watch her phone

For a three hour session it's harsh to ask your lady to not use her phone for this reason. They may we'll get a number of bookings this way

What kills the mood for me is when you have a shorter session, say an hour, and they are checking their phone mid punt and interrupting the vibe

You are paying her and deserve her full attention

But the phone issue is nowhere need as bad a crime as the real time wasting strategies WL can use

[GoldfishMan]

Regarding phones

The mobile phone is a business tool for ML/WL

I remember a 1 hour session with ML last year. About 10 minutes in, she has left her phone in the bed next to me, and gets a text saying
'Hi it's Ray, how are you? can I book you at 4pm for 30 minutes'
I saw the message on her screen
She looked quickly but didn't respond. That's business and I respect her need to watch her phone

For a three hour session it's harsh to ask your lady to not use her phone for this reason. They may we'll get a number of bookings this way

What kills the mood for me is when you have a shorter session, say an hour, and they are checking their phone mid punt and interrupting the vibe

You are paying her and deserve her full attention

But the phone issue is nowhere need as bad a crime as the real time wasting strategies WL can use
Yes, my thoughts exactly. On a shorter booking, "no-phones" is a reasonable requirement. Not on a whopping 3-hour blockbuster booking, lol...

[11Bravo]

Ok, I get it. You don't like people going onto their phones when you're paying for their time. But what about the other stuff he mentioned? Making lunch? She's focusing on the lunch, not him. Having a coffee, is she allowed to take in the scenery or does she have to keep her eyes always on him? Cos I don't see the diff between her enjoying the scenery or reading the menu on the table, vs going on her phone? She's still got her attention on something elseHaving lunch, doing that together. Maybe a little conversation thrown in. Taking in the scenery, looking at it together, maybe even commenting on the passing crowd (though the "Do you think she's beautiful?" can be a landmine). Menu - any suggestions, especially if we're at one of her country's restaurants. Going to her phone? Now unless we're looking at photos together, why am I paying for her let's play dating interruptus? I UNDERSTAND it's business, but for me, disrespectful. Come on, a clever girl would be off to the head for a comm check as we're waiting for coffee. You're paying for the fantasy...


Regarding phones

The mobile phone is a business tool for ML/WL

I remember a 1 hour session with ML last year. About 10 minutes in, she has left her phone in the bed next to me, and gets a text saying
'Hi it's Ray, how are you? can I book you at 4pm for 30 minutes'
I saw the message on her screen
She looked quickly but didn't respond. That's business and I respect her need to watch her phone

For a three hour session it's harsh to ask your lady to not use her phone for this reason. They may we'll get a number of bookings this way

What kills the mood for me is when you have a shorter session, say an hour, and they are checking their phone mid punt and interrupting the vibe

You are paying her and deserve her full attention

But the phone issue is nowhere need as bad a crime as the real time wasting strategies WL can useHave to disagree. I find the annoying incoming notifications annoying (yes, I AM sensitive). She looked but didn't respond. Wasn't that a check that interrupted the vibe? (Well, I guess depends on what you were doing at the time). And if she didn't feel the need to respond, then why have the phone on in the first place while she was working? If it's a whale calling, fine. NEXT time she can pass on me, but since she accepted my business this time, she should honor the decision.

Besides, doesn't it seem that she might be stiffing her shop? If she was stepping out "on the clock", then why doesn't reception know when she'll be back and take her bookings. If she's off book, then why is she using the shop's facilities. Or maybe she's private. In that case, leave a message.


Yes, my thoughts exactly. On a shorter booking, "no-phones" is a reasonable requirement. Not on a whopping 3-hour blockbuster booking, lol...To me, it sounded a bit more than a quick glace at the phone. Now, if the OP is busy with his own business, fine. But when I'm paying for 1st class, I don't appreciate being shuffled off to economy for the convenience of the stewardess (though I was once asked to move from the top deck - only one there - down to the main deck for meal service - that was fine. But I WAS asked...)

Having said all that, I do understand when, in a small shop, with only a couple of providers, in the case of an in-person arrival of a potential customer, fine, she might have to step out for a MINUTE to say come back in xxx minutes. But phones? Nah, I don't expect her to immediately answer my text when she's occupied.

And yes, I've stopped going to the cinema because I can't stand the people who just HAVE to check their mobile during the movie. Breaks my attention with what's happening on the screen, and if I've bought a ticket, I expect to be whisked away to fantasy, not being brought back to the real world periodically. Harsh? Never had any complaints as the women I see appreciate and respect my business. And that's been true for the 60 minute massage, the 90 minute session, or the 12-14 hour LT...

[l337dude]

I think texting or playing with the phone is sometimes considered rude by many (think dinner dates etc), the older generation more so, the younger genz may not understand it as much, maybe a quick glance is ok but if they are constantly paying attention to their phone then it's generally a bad sign.

Especially now with the messaging and social media madness I imagine it may be hard for some people to go 3 hours without looking their smart phone lol.

[frisson]

Sorry, I was referring to WL having their phones on silent as they receive messages. That's fine

I agree the WL with a beeping phone is definitely a mood killer, but if you both are in the throes of passion, you are both too focussed on fun, that phone beeping at that point is irrelevant

[l337dude]

I should make a silent rule next time, for every 5 mins they waste or every time their phone beeps, I'll give it to her hard and teach her the consequences of time-wasting and disrespect =P

[Ghost2hauntU]

I should make a silent rule next time, for every 5 mins they waste or every time their phone beeps, I'll give it to her hard and teach her the consequences of time-wasting and disrespect =P

Lol I did that to my regular once when she got cheeky. Fucked that phone right out of her hand.

[l337dude]

Yea I find that if you fuck them hard and passionate enough they won't be able to check their phone, they will be holding on for dear life...:shout:

[GoldfishMan]

Lol I did that to my regular once when she got cheeky. Fucked that phone right out of her hand.

I once slipped my dick into my then-GF while she was on the phone talking to one of her girl-friends. Fark, it was so hot watching her trying to sound "normal" on the phone call. She gave some excuse to hang-up and cut the convo short, lol...

[dvu420]

Looking at her phone during part 1, leaving the room for like 10 minutes to get a hot towel, vaping are the main ways

[Ghost2hauntU]

I find the party girls often want me to toke with them before the fucking and that can burn anywhere up to half an hour if you fall for it. Don’t.

The more subtle ones just light that dragon pipe at half time, after already a good fuck session, which is far more preferable, while having a short break before resuming.

[Double_Adapter]

For fuck's sake guys, workers have been wasting time since the fucken dawn of time.
Employers hire and pay their workers for a 40hr working week and they're lucky if they can get 20-30 hrs. Extended coffee, smoko, and lunch breaks, constant toilet breaks, gas bagging for hours about what they did over the weekend, continually checking their phones, playing solitaire on the computer, calling relos overseas, calling in sick, leaving early to pick the kids from school, a doctors appointment, car getting serviced, period pain, late because they missed the bus or train, compassionate leave for the family cat that died on the weekend, working-bludging from home etc the list of excuses and reasons is as long as a fucken roll of toilet paper.
So as an employer, it should come of no surprise when a WL wastes your time?
If you pay for 30mins and only get 15mins of productivity then fuck yeah! fire her ass and find another worker. If you pay for 30mins and get 25mins then yeah, that's fucken industrial relations in a nut shell.

[Axeman123]

I once slipped my dick into my then-GF while she was on the phone talking to one of her girl-friends. Fark, it was so hot watching her trying to sound "normal" on the phone call. She gave some excuse to hang-up and cut the convo short, lol... I tried that one on on my still wife. Got dobed in and told to fuk off.

[ColesBag]

Compassionate leave for the family cat that died on the weekend, working-bludging from home etc the list of excuses and reasons is as long as a fucken roll of toilet paper.

I worked somewhere a couple of years ago where the women sent round a card because someone's cat died. Couldn't fucken believe it.

[jaquedm1307]

For fuck's sake guys, workers have been wasting time since the fucken dawn of time.
Employers hire and pay their workers for a 40hr working week and they're lucky if they can get 20-30 hrs. Extended coffee, smoko, and lunch breaks, constant toilet breaks, gas bagging for hours about what they did over the weekend, continually checking their phones, playing solitaire on the computer, calling relos overseas, calling in sick, leaving early to pick the kids from school, a doctors appointment, car getting serviced, period pain, late because they missed the bus or train, compassionate leave for the family cat that died on the weekend, working-bludging from home etc the list of excuses and reasons is as long as a fucken roll of toilet paper.
So as an employer, it should come of no surprise when a WL wastes your time?
If you pay for 30mins and only get 15mins of productivity then fuck yeah! fire her ass and find another worker. If you pay for 30mins and get 25mins then yeah, that's fucken industrial relations in a nut shell.

Absolutely love this 🤣🤣

[RO1312]

I find the party girls often want me to toke with them before the fucking and that can burn anywhere up to half an hour if you fall for it. Don’t.

The more subtle ones just light that dragon pipe at half time, after already a good fuck session, which is far more preferable, while having a short break before resuming.


Meth? What shops are you visiting to allow that during your session

[l337dude]

I once slipped my dick into my then-GF while she was on the phone talking to one of her girl-friends. Fark, it was so hot watching her trying to sound "normal" on the phone call. She gave some excuse to hang-up and cut the convo short, lol...

I did that with my ex as well, except she was on the phone with her colleague lol, oh I was super turned on...

She had just got home from work and was sitting on the edge of the bed talking to her colleague on the phone, I pushed her on the bed and went to town, after she hung up I fucked her brains out while she was still in her Jimmy Choo heels and sexy office attire.

[expert]

Leaving the room and coming back smelling like cigarette. Had that experience at Burwood. Forgot the name of the WL.

[Ghost2hauntU]

Meth? What shops are you visiting to allow that during your session

Cant get into specifics cos may be against forum rules. But usually shops that run 24/7

[RO1312]

Cant get into specifics cos may be against forum rules. But usually shops that run 24/7

Right. If your ok with it then why not. Just caught me off guard

[GoldfishMan]

I worked somewhere a couple of years ago where the women sent round a card because someone's cat died. Couldn't fucken believe it.

One of my ex-colleagues who was very obviously a bludger at a big bank once gave the excuse that he "had to look after the neighbour's dog" to not have to come to the office for a full days work. This was one of those guys who always had their Teams status at "Busy", 24 X 7. Just stupid beyond belief how far these bludgers try to push the envelope.

[holi_day]

There was a J girl I met at Ginza had whole new strategy. It was a 45mins session and as soon as we greeted, she made sure I understand 45mins was a short session and only enough for one shot.
I didn't think much as I am always a one shot guy anyway. But she started rushing me on everything we do. Said "no time!" Like 7,8 times.
As soon as I cum, before I reached for the tissue, she was already in the shower. When I came out from the shower she was fully dressed, holding the used towels standing next to the door, watched me dress. She definitely can't wait to finish.

I went back to my car checked the clock and it wasn't even 30muns end to end.

Credit to Wilson noticed my early exit and messaged me for feedback. (He was busy with other customers when I walked out so I didn't bother to speak to him). I gave my feedback and this J girl disappeared from roster the day after. Never lost faith in Ginza.

[c1teh9]

As I've said, my solution to massage interruptus is first offense: yellow card, a verbal warning. Second offense is a red card and the game is over. I just say "Finish" and roll off the table, getting dressed. Yes, I've lost part of the massage fee, but since no extras have been provided yet, no extra payment due. Given that the ML gets most of her coin from the extras, and she has spent time with me with only the shop's fee to her to show for it, that is a hit for her. If she complains, I just tell her that her "extra" is the time saved with me leaving early. If she has an attitude adjustment, then I might reconsider. But my rule for decades in all situations has been "If I put my shoes on, I AM walking..." I don't bother with refunds but will tell the mamasan exactly why I am leaving early. Some care, others not, but for sure, no repeat business for her.

If everyone had this attitude the service level of all shops would be so much better. I personally haven't run into many issues myself but if they come up in the future I will take your approach.

[Sargon1111]

This is the same as red rose secton, the ladies walk out on you when customers call the shop or walk in and don’t come back in after 10+ mins and then when your home is up you lost that 10 mins and they tell you to leave the shop, they are the rudest people I’ve ever met. Don’t even get me started on the reception LOL. They attempt so hard for bait and switch. This happened more than 2 times, they love to waste time using their phone in 1 hand and lousy massage with the other. Idk why they allow girls to take their phones in the room.

[Ghost2hauntU]

Pardon my ignorance, but WTF is a “red rose section”?

I’m only familiar with old cumdumps.

[Vincent888]

Pardon my ignorance, but WTF is a “red rose section”?

I’m only familiar with old cumdumps.

Section is Sefton

[11Bravo]

This happened more than 2 times, they love to waste time using their phone in 1 hand and lousy massage with the other. Idk why they allow girls to take their phones in the room."Happened more than 2 times"? Really? Slow learner? If YOU allow it, why shouldn't she(s)?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.

[Sargon1111]

Section is Sefton

Hahaha my bad, just auto correct screwing me over :P

[Sargon1111]

"Happened more than 2 times"? Really? Slow learner? If YOU allow it, why shouldn't she(s)?

Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, shame on ME.

Well, i thought you know I’d give them a second or third chance but I guess I was silly for doing it!

[frisson]

There was a J girl I met at Ginza had whole new strategy. It was a 45mins session and as soon as we greeted, she made sure I understand 45mins was a short session and only enough for one shot.
I didn't think much as I am always a one shot guy anyway. But she started rushing me on everything we do. Said "no time!" Like 7,8 times

As soon as I cum, before I reached for the tissue, she was already in the shower. When I came out from the shower she was fully dressed, holding the used towels standing next to the door, watched me dress. She definitely can't wait to finish.

I went back to my car checked the clock and it wasn't even 30mins end to end.

.
I agree, that sounds uncomfortable

You go to a punt to relax.

Being rushed with this attitude is definitely not something I pay hard earned money for

If I want to be rushed like this, I just need to step into a busy train station at peak hour, and no way do I want to pay for that experience either

[Vincent888]

Ok this is going back to my very early days of punting. In the early 80’s. When I was new to the scene.

The WL walked in, sat on the bed and proceeded to clip and manicure her toe nails in front of me. I thought how disgusting.

Instant turn off.

It was a definite time wasting exercise but I was more put off by her doing that in front of me.

Suffice to say that was the last time I saw her. Still was a regular with a few of the others there who provided good service.

[Abracadabra]

Extended shower time is the one I notice ....it can be the 20min mark before you hit the bed with some WL if you allow it..

Only ever had one Japanese girl who made extended shower time worth every second!

[Footballpunter]

Only experienced once where the WL said she forgot her condoms so she left for 5 mins. not too bad

[11Bravo]

Well, i thought you know I’d give them a second or third chance but I guess I was silly for doing it!

That's YOUR problem; they don't take you seriously.

With me, she gets ONE chance, "PUT THE PHONE AWAY NOW!!" That's the warning. If it happens again, I'm ready to walk: roll off the table, start to get dressed. IF she can convince me her attitude and understanding have changed BEFORE I get my shoes on, then there is a possibility of continuing. If not, or if I get my shoes on, it's go time, no extras delivered or paid. I've lost time, she's lost time and money (no extras). It's why I prefer shops that you pay the massage fee to the desk, the extras fees directly to the girl.

And as I leave, I tell the desk. Their attitude determines whether I'd be back to try with another girl, or if that shop is removed from my list. If room phone use seems to be a thing, if there is a second visit, I'll tell the girl UPFRONT, "No phones or I walk."

And it's likely word will get around within the shop, at least amongst her friends IF you ever go back.

[frisson]

That's YOUR problem; they don't take you seriously.

With me, she gets ONE chance, "PUT THE PHONE AWAY NOW!!" That's the warning. If it happens again, I'm ready to walk: roll off the table, start to get dressed. IF she can convince me her attitude and understanding have changed BEFORE I get my shoes on, then there is a possibility of continuing. If not, or if I get my shoes on, it's go time, no extras delivered or paid. I've lost time, she's lost time and money (no extras). It's why I prefer shops that you pay the massage fee to the desk, the extras fees directly to the girl.

And as I leave, I tell the desk. Their attitude determines whether I'd be back to try with another girl, or if that shop is removed from my list. If room phone use seems to be a thing, if there is a second visit, I'll tell the girl UPFRONT, "No phones or I walk."

And it's likely word will get around within the shop, at least amongst her friends IF you ever go back.

I'm in your corner bro but some shops encourage WL to be in control and act as they like

These are for punts where you are out of pocket $270+, or massage punts where the lady clearly does not want to be there

If the lady looks like she would rather be somewhere else, she is perfectly allowed to feel that way, and you are perfectly allowed to end the session within 10 minutes and ask the manager for a substitute, no further payment

You have a range of options before you invoke 'The first 10 minute rule' of walking
Don't walk out with 10 minutes to go at the end, that's silly

Always start with manners. Politely tell the lady that if it's ok, you would like to get your rocks off first, she can check her phone with 10 minutes to go in a 60 minutes session, or at the end of a 30 minute session. You are paying for 30-60 minutes

If she is doing something silly like answering a call in the first 10 minutes or wasting time or generally shows she does not want to be there - then get dressed and go to the manager and ask for another lady - the mood has been interrupted completely

Any major complaint you make is going to kill the mood anyway, so get out and reset

My best punts are when the lady is ready when you walk in the room and helps you get undressed, and her phone may be checked quickly but is left on the table away from the action. This is common sense and basic good service which often gets forgotten when WL is busy (but still wants your money for a service)

You definitely do not have to pay $300+ and pay for sh-t service

Can you imagine your good female friend sitting in a hairdresser, paying $200 for a hair style, and the stylist is speaking on his phone and wasting her time ? She would absolutely ask him to stop and potentially complain. She definitely wouldn't accept this silly behavior

So men paying a lot of their wages on a punt should also politely ask for manners

Finally don't walk out and squeal to the manager like a squashed tomato. A leader shows restraint and his control shows the manager that he knows the value of his money. A squealer just makes the business tranaction more painful than it needs to be. Just calmly ask the manager for what you need

[Ghost2hauntU]

Ok this is going back to my very early days of punting. In the early 80’s. When I was new to the scene.

The WL walked in, sat on the bed and proceeded to clip and manicure her toe nails in front of me. I thought how disgusting.

Instant turn off.

It was a definite time wasting exercise but I was more put off by her doing that in front of me.

Suffice to say that was the last time I saw her. Still was a regular with a few of the others there who provided good service.

Some do things to deliberately turn you off.

I’ve had two in the past 20 years that farted loud as soon as we’re in the room. Fucking disgusting.
Few burp and clear their throat which I can handle provided everything else is good.

Also what turns me off is when they piss in the shower in front of me.

[Vincent888]

Also what turns me off is when they piss in the shower in front of me.

Farting is a no no.

I’m into girls doing things like pissing. Perhaps I’ll ask next time?

[Double_Adapter]

Ok this is going back to my very early days of punting. In the early 80’s. When I was new to the scene.

The WL walked in, sat on the bed and proceeded to clip and manicure her toe nails in front of me. I thought how disgusting.

Instant turn off.

It was a definite time wasting exercise but I was more put off by her doing that in front of me.

Suffice to say that was the last time I saw her. Still was a regular with a few of the others there who provided good service.

If she had no underwear whilst clipping her toe nails that would be a huge turn on.
If she was clipping her fungal toe nails then that's a whole fucken different story.

[Vincent888]

If she had no underwear whilst clipping her toe nails that would be a huge turn on.
If she was clipping her fungal toe nails then that's a whole fucken different story.

Hairy bush. That to me even way back then was another sign from the punting god that it wasn’t going to end well.

Wax on-Bush off.

Anyhow at the end I found my regular there and continued with another session.

Did a lot of back to back sessions when I was younger.

[Jesus666]

As an older hand at this game, Number 1 is by far the most common.

[Vincent888]

As an older hand at this game, Number 1 is by far the most common.

Maybe she’s gone to collect the thick wad from mamasan before she gets the punters?

[11Bravo]

This happened more than 2 times, they love to waste time using their phone in 1 hand and lousy massage with the other. Idk why they allow girls to take their phones in the room.
I was responding to this specific behavior. I'm first to admit just about all my punts are in RnT shops, and so this would happen during the part 1, before any extras.

And I'll thank you beforehand at the chance of a bit of slice and dice, I do enjoy:


These are for punts where you are out of pocket $270+, or massage punts where the lady clearly does not want to be thereAnything above $220 is above my paygrade. If it becomes evident the ML doesn't want to be there, if early, then yes, alternate. If later, then I'll enjoy the Part 1 sans extras.


If the lady looks like she would rather be somewhere else, she is perfectly allowed to feel that way, and you are perfectly allowed to end the session within 10 minutes and ask the manager for a substitute, no further paymentTotally agree, and hopefully she announces her non-interest early so we BOTH save time. I would never take any offense at that; my ego not easily bruised. In fact, I appreciate the honesty.


Don't walk out with 10 minutes to go at the end, that's sillyWell, if the Part 1 is done, and extras are unwilling, I'll cut my losses. I certainly DON'T want to be in a room with someone who doesn't want to be there. If she feels she's finished, fine, HER choice. Mine is simply repeat/no-repeat.


Always start with manners.If you want respect, you have to give respect. I always do. But that cuts BOTH ways. A one-handed massage while on the phone is disrespectful. Hopefully, we'll both have a good time, but the bottom line is, it's BUSINESS. I expect to enjoy, she expects to leave the room with more coin than when she entered. That's a win-win in my book.


My best punts are when the lady is ready when you walk in the room and helps you get undressed, and her phone may be checked quickly but is left on the table away from the action. Norm in the RnT's that have showers that I frequent, I probably shower alone, but do appreciate when she starts the water. Likewise, post session, sequential showers, but again appreciate when she starts the shower, and she DEFINITELY gets bonus points for joining me.


Finally don't walk out and squeal to the manager like a squashed tomato. A leader shows restraint and his control shows the manager that he knows the value of his money. A squealer just makes the business tranaction more painful than it needs to be. Just calmly ask the manager for what you needI never throw a temper tantrum. Just a mere statement of fact. If the session was good, I mention it. If not, I mention it. No whining involved.

Like the Old Knight said, "Choose wisely". In lineups, is she smiling at ME, making eye contact. Where I've booked an unknown, is she attempting to engage as we're initially in the room. There certainly can be language problems, but that can be fun. Given my preferences are Asian MILF's, they mostly appreciate the chance at repeat business and act accordingly. Those that don't, then that's easy to solve. As I always say, "NOW, I KNOW what HER experience is like with ME". The only question is if I return for another lesson. The search for knowledge...

[Ghost2hauntU]

In my experience party girls waste tons of time. Most just want to toke right from the start and get you fucked up.

And then there’s those that reach for the pipe and puff the magic dragon at half time. I don’t mind those, especially after an awesome intense 25 minute fucking they’ve earned half their pay. We’ll puff together for 5 or 10 and resume round 2.

[Vincent888]

In my experience party girls waste tons of time. Most just want to toke right from the start and get you fucked up.

And then there’s those that reach for the pipe and puff the magic dragon at half time. I don’t mind those, especially after an awesome intense 25 minute fucking they’ve earned half their pay. We’ll puff together for 5 or 10 and resume round 2.

Party girls. Well at least it keeps the weight off.

[frisson]

In my experience party girls waste tons of time. Most just want to toke right from the start and get you fucked up.

And then there’s those that reach for the pipe and puff the magic dragon at half time. I don’t mind those, especially after an awesome intense 25 minute fucking they’ve earned half their pay. We’ll puff together for 5 or 10 and resume round 2.

I usually drive home after a punt, so doing drugs or even inhaling the smoke is enough to get me arrested behind the wheel

When you have been busted by police behind the wheel, and gone to court for it, you never want to repeat that experience again

[frisson]

A one-handed massage while on the phone is disrespectful

Is this a thing? How disrespectful

I can honestly say, this has never happened to me

Charging for a one handed massage? Now I've heard everything

About as useful as the sound of one hand clapping

[Vincent888]

I once slipped my dick into my then-GF while she was on the phone talking to one of her girl-friends. Fark, it was so hot watching her trying to sound "normal" on the phone call. She gave some excuse to hang-up and cut the convo short, lol...

Now that’s funny !

[kingwally]

I fucking hate it when you are getting a massage and the ML starts massaging your hands...finger by finger, and she takes forever on it. The back, shoulders and legs are OK but not the fucking arms or fingers!

[Vincent888]

Perhaps she’s checking for wedding ring marks?