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DayMan69
25-10-2023, 02:45 PM
Haha... so I've been reading a few posts around the perennial 'relationship with an ML/WL', 'do girls like their job', etc etc. And well, I turned 60 some time back, been doing this punting game for some 20 years, had an affair, a few RSVP (pre tinder web thing) meet ups and a couple of other adventures and maybe I've learned a few things on the way. Nah, probably not haha.

1. No, the girls don't like their job. If they could find a way to make that kind of money legitimately, they would. Think about it; would you want to deal with pussy after pussy all day, 6 days a week? In various states of hygiene, varied body types, women with attitude, hangups and manners? No. She wants you cum and done in as little time as she can politely manage. Be pleasant and she won't mind you too much. I've enjoyed maybe 10 different girls a year x 20 years and that's the general impression i get. That said, I like connection cos it's better sex which is why i prefer trying to find regulars. Much better way to go IMHO.

2. Relationships with shop girls. Oh man. No. I've had two over the years with regulars who wanted more out of the shop. It doesn't work. She wants PR generally, however much she fools herself and you. The logistics and longer term ramifications of dating and then marrying a prostitute have every card stacked against a good outcome. She'll eventually not trust you, remembering where she met you, and you'll never get over the 500 different cocks she's sucked and fucked.

3. Affairs. Young blokes out there, do it if you must, cos the heroin rush of illicit sex and forbidden excitement is something else. But if you get caught it'll cost you half your asset base and your kid's love. You'll be a family outcast forever. And after 2 years, the excitement of the new fades and she'll just be another slightly naggy chick who gets on your tits more often than not and rations sex like a school librarian.

4. Hook ups with randoms. Meh. Sex is okay but it's expensive. Motel room for the afternoon, champagne (women expect it), logistics of fitting it in with work and family, pressure from the woman to make it an affair. No woman i've met (well one) likes one-off sex. They want relationships and love.

5. Which brings me to punting. $180 once a week at a time and place convenient to you. Walk in, walk out, job done, no complications. Extraordinarily good looking young girls with great bodies and exotic looks and little tricks up their sleeves. I've been deepthroated, had threesomes, fucked and been fucked in every position i'm capable of, had fingers up my arse and discovered the beauty of giving regulars a squirting gspot orgasm. I fucking love it. I'm personally a ML guy. It just seems less obligatory for the girl to do FS and i can kid myself she's choosing me. Lol.

Don't fuck around falling in love or thinking too deeply about it all. Punt once a week and all your cares will drop away. Here's to pussy gents. Sweet, young Asian pussy. I fucking love it.

triedforonce
25-10-2023, 03:09 PM
That's a one or two life lesson that everyone can learn of...

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Hidden Python
25-10-2023, 03:13 PM
Here’s a real life lesson, don’t fuck up and don’t get caught,
So always wear a condom, get regularly tested and hide all evidence of punting from your family, friends and work colleagues,
Because prostitution is frowned on by the general public and people will use it against you and it can cost you everything.

frisson
25-10-2023, 04:12 PM
Haha... so I've been reading a few posts around the perennial 'relationship with an ML/WL', 'do girls like their job', etc etc. And well, I turned 60 some time back, been doing this punting game for some 20 years, had an affair, a few RSVP (pre tinder web thing) meet ups and a couple of other adventures and maybe I've learned a few things on the way. Nah, probably not haha.

1. No, the girls don't like their job. If they could find a way to make that kind of money legitimately, they would. Think about it; would you want to deal with pussy after pussy all day, 6 days a week? In various states of hygiene, varied body types, women with attitude, hangups and manners? No. She wants you cum and done in as little time as she can politely manage. Be pleasant and she won't mind you too much. I've enjoyed maybe 10 different girls a year x 20 years and that's the general impression i get. That said, I like connection cos it's better sex which is why i prefer trying to find regulars. Much better way to go IMHO.

2. Relationships with shop girls. Oh man. No. I've had two over the years with regulars who wanted more out of the shop. It doesn't work. She wants PR generally, however much she fools herself and you. The logistics and longer term ramifications of dating and then marrying a prostitute have every card stacked against a good outcome. She'll eventually not trust you, remembering where she met you, and you'll never get over the 500 different cocks she's sucked and fucked.

3. Affairs. Young blokes out there, do it if you must, cos the heroin rush of illicit sex and forbidden excitement is something else. But if you get caught it'll cost you half your asset base and your kid's love. You'll be a family outcast forever. And after 2 years, the excitement of the new fades and she'll just be another slightly naggy chick who gets on your tits more often than not and rations sex like a school librarian.

4. Hook ups with randoms. Meh. Sex is okay but it's expensive. Motel room for the afternoon, champagne (women expect it), logistics of fitting it in with work and family, pressure from the woman to make it an affair. No woman i've met (well one) likes one-off sex. They want relationships and love.

5. Which brings me to punting. $180 once a week at a time and place convenient to you. Walk in, walk out, job done, no complications. Extraordinarily good looking young girls with great bodies and exotic looks and little tricks up their sleeves. I've been deepthroated, had threesomes, fucked and been fucked in every position i'm capable of, had fingers up my arse and discovered the beauty of giving regulars a squirting gspot orgasm. I fucking love it. I'm personally a ML guy. It just seems less obligatory for the girl to do FS and i can kid myself she's choosing me. Lol.

Don't fuck around falling in love or thinking too deeply about it all. Punt once a week and all your cares will drop away. Here's to pussy gents. Sweet, young Asian pussy. I fucking love it.

Nice thread bro. A lot of info to unpack there
You mentioned RSVP. Was that sh_t real?

GoldfishMan
25-10-2023, 05:23 PM
Lol I remember RSVP. It was always advertised on late night telly back when I was still in uni. Can't believe they're still around.

frisson
25-10-2023, 05:28 PM
Lol I remember RSVP. It was always advertised on late night telly back when I was still in uni. Can't believe they're still around.
Whenever punters on hear bleat about fake photos, it's funny
They haven't seen RSVP

rooter
25-10-2023, 05:42 PM
Always wear clean underwear.
You never know when you will get hit by a bus or have a heart attack or get blown up by a terrorist so you don't want to go into hospital with shit stains on your undies or smelling of stale urine. It's not a good look, it's not dignified, it's not cool. Have a bit of respect for yourself and the first responders and hospital staff - always wear clean undies. it's not a is big ask, and even if you have a good day and don't get hit by a bus or have a heart attack or get blown up by a terrorist you will still enjoy a day of feeling fresh and clean and your balls resting in crisp clean cotton, and that's a good day.
Hygiene is sacred. It is the pathway to godliness. Nobody likes a dirty smelly bastard.

GoldfishMan
25-10-2023, 05:59 PM
Always wear clean underwear.
You never know when you will get hit by a bus or have a heart attack or get blown up by a terrorist so you don't want to go into hospital with shit stains on your undies or smelling of stale urine. It's not a good look, it's not dignified, it's not cool. Have a bit of respect for yourself and the first responders and hospital staff - always wear clean undies. it's not a big ask, and even if you have a good day and don't get hit by a bus or have a heart attack or get blown up by a terrorist you will still enjoy a day of feeling fresh and clean and your balls resting in crisp clean cotton, and that's a good day.

I would suggest wearing black or brown undies instead because most people shit and piss their pants when they die. What's the point of having clean ones when you're gonna soil them anyway?

ColesBag
25-10-2023, 06:32 PM
Here’s a real life lesson, don’t fuck up and don’t get caught,
So always wear a condom, get regularly tested and hide all evidence of punting from your family, friends and work colleagues,
Because prostitution is frowned on by the general public and people will use it against you and it can cost you everything.

Yep.

And anyway secrets make life interesting.

abovetherim
25-10-2023, 06:59 PM
I would suggest wearing black or brown undies instead because most people shit and piss their pants when they die. What's the point of having clean ones when you're gonna soil them anyway?

Yeah you’re kidding yourselves if you think you’re not going to soil your pants when you get into a traumatic accident. You won’t have control over the bodily functions. And that’s probably the least of your concern when you’re in that situation.

abovetherim
25-10-2023, 07:02 PM
Good advice from an experienced punter. Too bad a lot of it won’t register with the younger ones though. Some people just have to go thru the experience themselves to realise it.

TheBigChungus
25-10-2023, 08:33 PM
Don't shit where you eat. Well in this case, don't try to get into a relationship or catch a feeling where you punt and perhaps multiple men probably cum to do the same.

Sibon
25-10-2023, 08:37 PM
Haha... so I've been reading a few posts around the perennial 'relationship with an ML/WL', 'do girls like their job', etc etc. And well, I turned 60 some time back, been doing this punting game for some 20 years, had an affair, a few RSVP (pre tinder web thing) meet ups and a couple of other adventures and maybe I've learned a few things on the way. Nah, probably not haha.

1. No, the girls don't like their job. If they could find a way to make that kind of money legitimately, they would. Think about it; would you want to deal with pussy after pussy all day, 6 days a week? In various states of hygiene, varied body types, women with attitude, hangups and manners? No. She wants you cum and done in as little time as she can politely manage. Be pleasant and she won't mind you too much. I've enjoyed maybe 10 different girls a year x 20 years and that's the general impression i get. That said, I like connection cos it's better sex which is why i prefer trying to find regulars. Much better way to go IMHO.

2. Relationships with shop girls. Oh man. No. I've had two over the years with regulars who wanted more out of the shop. It doesn't work. She wants PR generally, however much she fools herself and you. The logistics and longer term ramifications of dating and then marrying a prostitute have every card stacked against a good outcome. She'll eventually not trust you, remembering where she met you, and you'll never get over the 500 different cocks she's sucked and fucked.

3. Affairs. Young blokes out there, do it if you must, cos the heroin rush of illicit sex and forbidden excitement is something else. But if you get caught it'll cost you half your asset base and your kid's love. You'll be a family outcast forever. And after 2 years, the excitement of the new fades and she'll just be another slightly naggy chick who gets on your tits more often than not and rations sex like a school librarian.

4. Hook ups with randoms. Meh. Sex is okay but it's expensive. Motel room for the afternoon, champagne (women expect it), logistics of fitting it in with work and family, pressure from the woman to make it an affair. No woman i've met (well one) likes one-off sex. They want relationships and love.

5. Which brings me to punting. $180 once a week at a time and place convenient to you. Walk in, walk out, job done, no complications. Extraordinarily good looking young girls with great bodies and exotic looks and little tricks up their sleeves. I've been deepthroated, had threesomes, fucked and been fucked in every position i'm capable of, had fingers up my arse and discovered the beauty of giving regulars a squirting gspot orgasm. I fucking love it. I'm personally a ML guy. It just seems less obligatory for the girl to do FS and i can kid myself she's choosing me. Lol.

Don't fuck around falling in love or thinking too deeply about it all. Punt once a week and all your cares will drop away. Here's to pussy gents. Sweet, young Asian pussy. I fucking love it.

Would you want to give a talk about it?

I think we could pack Sydney Townhall with punters who are keen to listen to your life lessons.

Vincent888
25-10-2023, 08:39 PM
Would you want to give a talk about it?

I think we could pack Sydney Townhall with punters who are keen to listen to your life lessons.

On a soap box with a bible in one hand, a crusty dribbling old man handing out flyers and that guy who stands still all day next to you.

Sibon
25-10-2023, 08:42 PM
Always wear clean underwear.
You never know when you will get hit by a bus or have a heart attack or get blown up by a terrorist so you don't want to go into hospital with shit stains on your undies or smelling of stale urine. It's not a good look, it's not dignified, it's not cool. Have a bit of respect for yourself and the first responders and hospital staff - always wear clean undies. it's not a is big ask, and even if you have a good day and don't get hit by a bus or have a heart attack or get blown up by a terrorist you will still enjoy a day of feeling fresh and clean and your balls resting in crisp clean cotton, and that's a good day.
Hygiene is sacred. It is the pathway to godliness. Nobody likes a dirty smelly bastard.

Any brand you want to recommend? Louis Vuitton, Gucci, Calvin Klein, Hermes, Ralph Lauren?

Sibon
25-10-2023, 08:49 PM
On a soap box with a bible in one hand, a crusty dribbling old man handing out flyers and that guy who stands still all day next to you.

No No. We're talking about a big production with laser lights and music and dancing hot WLs.

I'm sure Ada of 200 Stanmore will be happy to send us a few of her Thai babies.

DayMan69
25-10-2023, 10:08 PM
Yep RSVP. Classic. It was a dating app precursor with a section for naughty boys and girls who just wanted 'friendship'. Notable for the lack of identifying pics. It had an IM function you could use to blather on all day to promising contacts. Good times. @Goldfishman - dunno whether it's still going. Probably got smacked by Tinder and so on.

Vincent888
25-10-2023, 10:17 PM
No No. We're talking about a big production with laser lights and music and dancing hot WLs.

I'm sure Ada of 200 Stanmore will be happy to send us a few of her Thai babies.

Don’t forget the smoke machine and the strobe lights. Need the hypnotic effect. What’s the dress code? Something Tony Montana-ish ?

GoldfishMan
25-10-2023, 10:17 PM
Yep RSVP. Classic. It was a dating app precursor with a section for naughty boys and girls who just wanted 'friendship'. Notable for the lack of identifying pics. It had an IM function you could use to blather on all day to promising contacts. Good times. @Goldfishman - dunno whether it's still going. Probably got smacked by Tinder and so on.

It's still around. Unbelievable:
https://www.rsvp.com.au/?gclid=CjwKCAjw-eKpBhAbEiwAqFL0msPI3PU-NKLf6-MzSaYQNgtUvw22mshbYSS73HV6cIS6KSrf7mxsqhoCLkAQAvD_ BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Proudly proclaims that it's "now available on the app". Lol...

frisson
26-10-2023, 12:41 AM
RSVP is still around. Unbelievable:
https://www.rsvp.com.au/?gclid=CjwKCAjw-eKpBhAbEiwAqFL0msPI3PU-NKLf6-MzSaYQNgtUvw22mshbYSS73HV6cIS6KSrf7mxsqhoCLkAQAvD_ BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds

Proudly proclaims that it's "now available on the app". Lol...

Common refrain:
'Yes but it's unacceptable that they use fake photos. It's just not fair. Every photo online and in advertising has to be a real and recent photo. Please listen to my demands'

RSVP. If you rely on finding genuine photos online, holy f_ck you will be mislead a lot of the time

schloong
26-10-2023, 06:37 AM
A Mamasan I know very well in the 'Gong many years ago told me she was on RSVP looking for a boyfriend/partner.

I did look her up & she actually posted real photos on her profile. Really good photos too as she is a bit of a stunner!

Yeah - surprised it's still going...

Mickeydrippen
26-10-2023, 08:10 AM
I enjoyed reading you post. Point two talks about 500 cocks a WL May have had. Your Maths is a bit out as 5 Cocks a day 6 days a week equals 30 times a conservative 40 weeks a year equals 1200 times 5 years equals easy 6000 cocks. Very conservative numbers. Serious money though.

Abracadabra
26-10-2023, 08:28 AM
I enjoyed reading you post. Point two talks about 500 cocks a WL May have had. Your Maths is a bit out as 5 Cocks a day 6 days a week equals 30 times a conservative 40 weeks a year equals 1200 times 5 years equals easy 6000 cocks. Very conservative numbers. Serious money though.

Yeah, that's my take too.
Even with some girls restricting to 2 or 3 6hr fully booked shifts a week it isnt hard to see the cock tally hit 4000 to 5000 over a few years.
Mind boggling hey!

Onehunglo
26-10-2023, 09:07 AM
Yeah, that's my take too.
Even with some girls restricting to 2 or 3 6hr fully booked shifts a week it isnt hard to see the cock tally hit 4000 to 5000 over a few years.
Mind boggling hey!

Just goes to show that for some girls a moist, pliable pussy is a prosperous thing to have.

DayMan69
26-10-2023, 09:38 AM
I enjoyed reading you post. Point two talks about 500 cocks a WL May have had. Your Maths is a bit out as 5 Cocks a day 6 days a week equals 30 times a conservative 40 weeks a year equals 1200 times 5 years equals easy 6000 cocks. Very conservative numbers. Serious money though.

Lol, true i guess. How sick of dick would you be? Yet another reason to not have a serious relationship with a working girl.

jedibear
26-10-2023, 09:43 AM
We talk about kissing said mouth that has taken 5000 cocks...but we dip our own cocks into said mouth too...[emoji848]

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Abracadabra
26-10-2023, 09:57 AM
We talk about kissing said mouth that has taken 5000 cocks...but we dip our own cocks into said mouth too...[emoji848]

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Yeah, thanks for reminding me!

Puntonthego
26-10-2023, 10:46 AM
Where are the squirting ML working these days?

Hidden Python
26-10-2023, 01:30 PM
Now you know how really important Listerine alcoholic mouth wash is, its a great way to kill leftover baby batter floating in the back of the W/ls gums.

Vincent888
26-10-2023, 01:57 PM
A Mamasan I know very well in the 'Gong many years ago told me she was on RSVP looking for a boyfriend/partner.

I did look her up & she actually posted real photos on her profile. Really good photos too as she is a bit of a stunner!

Yeah - surprised it's still going...

My mate who is, truth be told a perpetual cheater put his pics up on a dating site. Years later I stumbled across his pics. Sent him the link. It wasn’t even the site he initially uploaded to. And he had requested removal after they went up.

Once online, always online.

He’s still (un)happily married.

frisson
26-10-2023, 05:54 PM
A Mamasan I know very well in the 'Gong many years ago told me she was on RSVP looking for a boyfriend/partner.

I did look her up & she actually posted real photos on her profile. Really good photos too as she is a bit of a stunner!

Yeah - surprised it's still going...

She sounds like a babe

I'm pretty sure she was a honest hearted lady

Sydney women on RSVP are far more wary and have many more options so you find that photos are fake or they have so many options that interactions are superficial and fleeting. What have others found?

frisson
26-10-2023, 05:56 PM
My mate put his pics up on a dating site. Years later I stumbled across his pics. Sent him the link. It wasn’t even the site he initially uploaded to. And he had requested removal after they went up.

Once online, always oonline
Good luck with that
Your photos can and will be reused. You can bet your house on that.

Just hope that your photos are not used by law enforcement facial recognition technology companies who pay websites to harvest their photos

Vincent888
26-10-2023, 06:55 PM
Good luck with that
Your photos can and will be reused. You can bet your house on that.

Just hope that your photos are not used by law enforcement facial recognition technology companies who pay websites to harvest their photos

Not my photos, his.

So there’s a company in Australia that harvests everything off the internet. Everything. They have fourty guys writing the code in Melbourne.

I was talking to someone there and they boasted they have a large number of files on people. I thought ok maybe 20 milllion files on Australians. No she said. At present they have 220 million files on people in the Asian pacific region. And it’s growing.

They then sell all that data to whoever wants it.

frisson
26-10-2023, 06:57 PM
Not my photos, his.

So there’s a company in Australia that harvests everything off the internet. Everything. They have fourty guys writing the code in Melbourne.

I was talking to someone there and they boasted they have a large number of files on people. I thought ok maybe 20 milllion files on Australians. No she said. At present they have 220million files on people in the Asian pacific region. And it’s growing.

They then sell all that data to whoever wants it.

She is in sales.
Bro it's being going on as long as Facebook was invented. Zuckerberg was selling Facebook face photos to software companies over a decade ago

Google 'Cambridge Analytica". The whole scam blew up in Zuckerberg's face

The personal data of up to 87 million Facebook users were acquired in 2015 by a secret app

Yes and I know you were referring to your friends photos

Titan1
30-10-2023, 05:00 PM
Great post - Wished I read this sooner. I got really close to a girl, i like her and i think she likes me too and knows I'm in a relationship, gives me advice not to get caught and I should go back to family and live a simple life. We decided to stop talking before anything serious starts.

bryanthemachinegun
30-10-2023, 05:16 PM
Here’s a real life lesson, don’t fuck up and don’t get caught,
So always wear a condom, get regularly tested and hide all evidence of punting from your family, friends and work colleagues,
Because prostitution is frowned on by the general public and people will use it against you and it can cost you everything.

Now that's real some advice there. safety in Family relationships and safety on personal health. both can really fucked you up when gone bad.

Vincent888
30-10-2023, 10:08 PM
Bro it's being going on as long as Facebook was invented. Zuckerberg was selling Facebook face photos to software companies over a decade ago

Google 'Cambridge Analytica". The whole scam blew up in Zuckerberg's face

The personal data of up to 87 million Facebook users were acquired in 2015 by a secret app

Yes and I know you were referring to your friends photos

My comment was about an Aussie company. I know about the stuff you post above.

DayMan69
30-10-2023, 10:22 PM
Great post - Wished I read this sooner. I got really close to a girl, i like her and i think she likes me too and knows I'm in a relationship, gives me advice not to get caught and I should go back to family and live a simple life. We decided to stop talking before anything serious starts.

The best girls give great GFE because you'll come back for more and an hour with someone she knows and trusts is safer and less hassle. We think that means she really, really likes us, and maybe she does. But it's not love. Live a simple life. Create a family, a social life and an asset base with your partner. And when sex dries up at home, find a shop that suits you, a girl that makes you happy for an hour and do it all again next week. Simple.

BTW she suggested stop talking because she saw you falling and she doesn't want the complications of that or the risk of a stalker. Smart girl. Good luck mate.

Vincent888
30-10-2023, 10:47 PM
Great post - Wished I read this sooner. I got really close to a girl, i like her and i think she likes me too and knows I'm in a relationship, gives me advice not to get caught and I should go back to family and live a simple life. We decided to stop talking before anything serious starts.

I think there will always be guys falling for WL’s. Adam & Eve, the temptation. It’s there because it’s in the DNA to go forth procreate and find a partner. Repeat the process.

I think I could have a relationship with a WL and it might not be sexual. As long as I got that elsewhere.

Sort of a Punters Paradox.

A punter taking up with a WL but no sex.

It’s almost like being “happily married”.

bjl0v3s
30-10-2023, 11:26 PM
Wise words from a wise man mate. Cheers

Vincent888
31-10-2023, 12:14 AM
Wise words from a wise man mate. Cheers

There are three wise monkeys. I base my lifestyle on their philosophy. Except for bananas I use pineapples 🍍

Titan1
31-10-2023, 09:52 AM
This thread is becoming more epic.

They don't teach these things at school, you either learn it the hard way, get guidance early or get f'd as you go down the rabbit hole.

Me and this girl were talking outside of her work time, she doesn't charge me (only the first time we met), we talk about life, shows me pics of her life back in her country, becomes friends on fb, she tells me she's scared for me and that she never asked me to come to her place lol it was getting kinda serious and emotions were strong. We told eachother while holding hands walking down the riverside that tonight will be the last night. It was the best night ever.

It's been 2 days now. No messaging, no contact, yday was very hard, today seems better (thinking of her less), this thread def helps (none of my friends will want to hear this).

My goal: Complete separation, in future, think back of this amazing moment of living on the edge.

DayMan69
31-10-2023, 10:25 AM
This thread is becoming more epic.

They don't teach these things at school, you either learn it the hard way, get guidance early or get f'd as you go down the rabbit hole.

Me and this girl were talking outside of her work time, she doesn't charge me (only the first time we met), we talk about life, shows me pics of her life back in her country, becomes friends on fb, she tells me she's scared for me and that she never asked me to come to her place lol it was getting kinda serious and emotions were strong. We told eachother while holding hands walking down the riverside that tonight will be the last night. It was the best night ever.

It's been 2 days now. No messaging, no contact, yday was very hard, today seems better (thinking of her less), this thread def helps (none of my friends will want to hear this).

My goal: Complete separation, in future, think back of this amazing moment of living on the edge.

Mate, you're in the hard zone. You can only grind your way through this, day by day.

The only advice i have is to find something big to do for the next 2 weeks. Holiday? Organise curry nights or brewery crawls with buddies. Work on your car. Build a bbq. Whatever. I once checked into a health farm for 3 days after a brutal hard stop. Left after 2 days because pumpkin seeds for breakfast was worse than the heartache.

The grass always seems greener on the other side. Truth is we just can't see the weeds. You'll survive and have great memories for the rocking chair later on. There is a cost to living a great life. Heartache is one of them.

frisson
31-10-2023, 10:53 AM
This thread is becoming more epic.

They don't teach these things at school, you either learn it the hard way, get guidance early or get f'd as you go down the rabbit hole.

Me and this girl were talking outside of her work time, she doesn't charge me (only the first time we met), we talk about life, shows me pics of her life back in her country, becomes friends on fb, she tells me she's scared for me and that she never asked me to come to her place lol it was getting kinda serious and emotions were strong. We told eachother while holding hands walking down the riverside that tonight will be the last night. It was the best night ever.

It's been 2 days now. No messaging, no contact, yday was very hard, today seems better (thinking of her less), this thread def helps (none of my friends will want to hear this).

My goal: Complete separation, in future, think back of this amazing moment of living on the edge.

You must be young.
Dirty little secret - you are much more likely to win back a lady if you show her you can absolutely switch off from her
If you are a little man boy, she can sense that immediately and will string you along as a friend on her terms, using you for emotional support but ignore your needs totally
Be non-communicative for a few days. Show her you may have other options
Risk not texting for days at a time. If you are just one of many man boys she is using as emotional support, she won't contact you back - but if she likes you she will come to that realization after 5-7 days and text you back.

Your life will be full of women who you want to get in their pants, but they just want you as a friend. Don't be friendzoned like this. Dont be a ladys big brother

Another forum member recommended Corey Wayne

Google:

Understanding Relationships. .com

You can act so much better by signalling you have masculinity and not being a man boy doormat

Vincent888
31-10-2023, 02:20 PM
There is a cost to living a great life. Heartache is one of them.

You wouldn’t be alive if you didn’t experience the full gamut of emotions. To love and lose love is up there with life and death.

Vincent888
31-10-2023, 02:24 PM
You must be young.
Dirty little secret - you are much more likely to win back a lady if you show her you can absolutely switch off from her
If you are a little man boy, she can sense that immediately and will string you along as a friend on her terms, using you for emotional support but ignore your needs totally
Be non-communicative for a few days. Show her you may have other options
Risk not texting for days at a time. If you are just one of many man boys she is using as emotional support, she won't contact you back - but if she likes you she will come to that realization after 5-7 days and text you back.

Your life will be full of women who you want to get in their pants, but they just want you as a friend. Don't be friendzoned like this. Dont be a ladys big brother

Another forum member recommended Corey Wayne

Google:

Understanding Relationships. .com

You can act so much better by signalling you have masculinity and not being a man boy doormat

I don’t know about that,

I listened to my father when a GF stood me up on my birthday. Never got her back after she asked me to take her out again and I said no.

The power play didn’t work that time.

Puntonthego
31-10-2023, 02:30 PM
Always wash your cock after every and any sexual session, even if a Condom was used. The reason being simply to prevent infection and keep all well good personnel hygiene. 🫡[emoji106]

Vincent888
31-10-2023, 02:34 PM
Always wash your cock after every and any sexual session, even if a Condom was used. The reason being simply to prevent infection and keep all well good personnel hygiene. 🫡[emoji106]

My mother used to say always wear clean underwear.

frisson
31-10-2023, 02:49 PM
I don’t know about that,

I listened to my father when a GF stood me up on my birthday. Never got her back after she asked me to take her out again and I said no.

The power play didn’t work that time.
You made a mistake back then

As I suggested, if she contacts you back with definite interest, then you take her out

My advice was holding back from texting if you sense you are only in the friendzone

I never said hold back if she asks you out. If a women shows true interest, go for it

Titan1
31-10-2023, 09:02 PM
Left after 2 days because pumpkin seeds for breakfast was worse than the heartache.

Lol this cracked me up.

Thanks for sharing your advice, really good to see support.

Some updates:

Today is Day 3 since the break up. I feel a lot better. No messaging. She posted a photo of a meal we had together on her FB and mentioned "I lost something v important". This didn't help. I read all her friends commenting and her responses. Kinda killed me ans made me sad. But I kept telling myself to be strong. I don't want to delete or block her, but i did unfollow her so she doesnt come up on my feed anymore. I genuinely want to see her quit this job one day and move back to her country to live out her dream, escape poverty etc.

Some thoughts running through my head to make me feel better:
- I had 6hrs of fun time over the span of the "relationship" plus dinner dates, but only paid for 1hr, savings of over $1.5k. Ozbargain of the year.
- I ticked off a big bucket list: spend time with a beautiful woman
- I feel more confident and learnt more about myself, my limits, my psychology, my emotions

Lesson for the beginners: when punting, go in and go out. Wash your hands.

Vincent888
31-10-2023, 09:10 PM
You made a mistake back then

As I suggested, if she contacts you back with definite interest, then you take her out

My advice was holding back from texting if you sense you are only in the friendzone

I never said hold back if she asks you out. If a women shows true interest, go for it

Normally I smash people txting. For every one I receive I send ten. Half the time I wonder if they read them! A lot of the time my jokes go straight over people’s heads.

Double entendres forget that, it’s a triple or nothing.

Such is life… well he’s dead and it didn’t help him. Should have been a straight shooter.

Double_Adapter
31-10-2023, 09:16 PM
Always wash your cock after every and any sexual session, even if a Condom was used. The reason being simply to prevent infection and keep all well good personnel hygiene. ��[emoji106]

Dick dipping in warm salt water does wonders

Vincent888
31-10-2023, 09:26 PM
Dick dipping in warm salt water does wonders

I love having a smelly cock. Except for the flies…

crazykyle1984
31-10-2023, 11:34 PM
Haha... so I've been reading a few posts around the perennial 'relationship with an ML/WL', 'do girls like their job', etc etc. And well, I turned 60 some time back, been doing this punting game for some 20 years, had an affair, a few RSVP (pre tinder web thing) meet ups and a couple of other adventures and maybe I've learned a few things on the way. Nah, probably not haha.

1. No, the girls don't like their job. If they could find a way to make that kind of money legitimately, they would. Think about it; would you want to deal with pussy after pussy all day, 6 days a week? In various states of hygiene, varied body types, women with attitude, hangups and manners? No. She wants you cum and done in as little time as she can politely manage. Be pleasant and she won't mind you too much. I've enjoyed maybe 10 different girls a year x 20 years and that's the general impression i get. That said, I like connection cos it's better sex which is why i prefer trying to find regulars. Much better way to go IMHO.

2. Relationships with shop girls. Oh man. No. I've had two over the years with regulars who wanted more out of the shop. It doesn't work. She wants PR generally, however much she fools herself and you. The logistics and longer term ramifications of dating and then marrying a prostitute have every card stacked against a good outcome. She'll eventually not trust you, remembering where she met you, and you'll never get over the 500 different cocks she's sucked and fucked.

3. Affairs. Young blokes out there, do it if you must, cos the heroin rush of illicit sex and forbidden excitement is something else. But if you get caught it'll cost you half your asset base and your kid's love. You'll be a family outcast forever. And after 2 years, the excitement of the new fades and she'll just be another slightly naggy chick who gets on your tits more often than not and rations sex like a school librarian.

4. Hook ups with randoms. Meh. Sex is okay but it's expensive. Motel room for the afternoon, champagne (women expect it), logistics of fitting it in with work and family, pressure from the woman to make it an affair. No woman i've met (well one) likes one-off sex. They want relationships and love.

5. Which brings me to punting. $180 once a week at a time and place convenient to you. Walk in, walk out, job done, no complications. Extraordinarily good looking young girls with great bodies and exotic looks and little tricks up their sleeves. I've been deepthroated, had threesomes, fucked and been fucked in every position i'm capable of, had fingers up my arse and discovered the beauty of giving regulars a squirting gspot orgasm. I fucking love it. I'm personally a ML guy. It just seems less obligatory for the girl to do FS and i can kid myself she's choosing me. Lol.

Don't fuck around falling in love or thinking too deeply about it all. Punt once a week and all your cares will drop away. Here's to pussy gents. Sweet, young Asian pussy. I fucking love it.

Thank you for this life lessons!

frisson
01-11-2023, 12:33 AM
Lol this cracked me up.

Thanks for sharing your advice, really good to see support.

Some updates:

Today is Day 3 since the break up. I feel a lot better. No messaging. She posted a photo of a meal we had together on her FB and mentioned "I lost something v important". This didn't help. I read all her friends commenting and her responses. Kinda killed me ans made me sad. But I kept telling myself to be strong. I don't want to delete or block her, but i did unfollow her so she doesnt come up on my feed anymore. I genuinely want to see her quit this job one day and move back to her country to live out her dream, escape poverty etc.

Some thoughts running through my head to make me feel better:
- I had 6hrs of fun time over the span of the "relationship" plus dinner dates, but only paid for 1hr, savings of over $1.5k. Ozbargain of the year.
- I ticked off a big bucket list: spend time with a beautiful woman
- I feel more confident and learnt more about myself, my limits, my psychology, my emotions

Lesson for the beginners: when punting, go in and go out. Wash your hands.
Hang in there bro

Another dirty secret. This lady and all ladies will think you are double as attractive and double self assured, if you just hang back at this point and be aloof.

Don't be the man boy puppy dog who sits at her feet with your tongue hanging out
Because that's how most men have acted ever to her ever since this lady was 16
Honestly if she doesn't get back in contact with you within 2 weeks, then she has a man in her life, and you can let go

If she wants to contact you again, you need to get a good radar for friendzone behaviour from her, and play the game how you want to play it

Do not be friendzoned, and know immediately when that is happening. Spend all your time being with women who aren't wasting your time

Punt more. That's why it was invented. So you don't get misguided by a woman who friendzones people

Man up and wake up

Vincent888
01-11-2023, 03:01 AM
It’s called cock blocking.

Why it happens? There’s a reason. That’s the perpetual problem trying to work out why.

It can be very frustrating for people who are direct in their approach.

JohnJones
01-11-2023, 05:57 PM
Don't fuck around falling in love or thinking too deeply about it all. Punt once a week and all your cares will drop away. Here's to pussy gents. Sweet, young Asian pussy. I fucking love it.

The more pleasure we seek, the more pain we receive.

Unfortunately that advice of yours isn't suited to everyone. It's like a miner giving up digging when they could be very close to striking gold.

Whatever it is we're seeking, all we need to change is our perspective and attitude. Even if the experience is bad, the karmic connection gets exhausted and you won't have to experience the same thing in the future. If that person isn't for you, something will draw you away from it once you have exhausted all past karma.

Some people will have a strong affinity for each other through some fate. This affinity will bring them together no matter how much they drift away from each other. Exhausting and purifying the karma of one person will bring them close to the person they're fated to be with. However, miracles will happen when both purify their karmas at the same time.

And this is why I have faith in the person I'm waiting for - on a daily basis I am purifying whatever karma that's left within me. The more I purify, the less anxiety I have. Happiness arises and hopefully the person I'm waiting for does the same so that a miracle can happen and we would be reunited.

Vincent888
01-11-2023, 06:09 PM
I can’t remember if I ever waited for anyone?

Call it insurance but if you’re running multiple girls then if one doesn’t pull through there’s always another that will.

That way you’ll never run dry.

Not “life lessons” but “life insurance”.

DayMan69
01-11-2023, 06:10 PM
The more pleasure we seek, the more pain we receive.

Unfortunately that advice of yours isn't suited to everyone. It's like a miner giving up digging when they could be very close to striking gold.

Whatever it is we're seeking, all we need to change is our perspective and attitude. Even if the experience is bad, the karmic connection gets exhausted and you won't have to experience the same thing in the future. If that person isn't for you, something will draw you away from it once you have exhausted all past karma.

Some people will have a strong affinity for each other through some fate. This affinity will bring them together no matter how much they drift away from each other. Exhausting and purifying the karma of one person will bring them close to the person they're fated to be with. However, miracles will happen when both purify their karmas at the same time.

And this is why I have faith in the person I'm waiting for - on a daily basis I am purifying whatever karma that's left within me. The more I purify, the less anxiety I have. Happiness arises and hopefully the person I'm waiting for does the same so that a miracle can happen and we would be reunited.

Jesus, i think you're supposed to swallow viagra, not smoke it.

Vincent888
01-11-2023, 06:11 PM
Jesus, i think you're supposed to swallow viagra, not smoke it.

Another classic retort! Well done.

JohnJones
01-11-2023, 06:16 PM
You must be young.
Dirty little secret - you are much more likely to win back a lady if you show her you can absolutely switch off from her
If you are a little man boy, she can sense that immediately and will string you along as a friend on her terms, using you for emotional support but ignore your needs totally
Be non-communicative for a few days. Show her you may have other options
Risk not texting for days at a time. If you are just one of many man boys she is using as emotional support, she won't contact you back - but if she likes you she will come to that realization after 5-7 days and text you back.

Your life will be full of women who you want to get in their pants, but they just want you as a friend. Don't be friendzoned like this. Dont be a ladys big brother

Another forum member recommended Corey Wayne

Google:

Understanding Relationships. .com

You can act so much better by signalling you have masculinity and not being a man boy doormat

A person free from certain karmas will not experience it. For example, the friendzoned guy is going through the karma of friendzoning another person in his life, or the karma of promising a woman he will marry her but dumped her after having sex.

Sometimes we may have to endure being friendzoned, but at the same time be equally friendly to her. There's no guarantee that she'll change and become the girl you expect her to be but at the same time there's no need to have a grudge on her for rejecting your advances.

Once you have exhausted the karma of being "friendzoned", you will realise that many women will suddenly have an interest in you. When you suddenly have this power over many women you will start to think, "I can either play with all of them or choose the best out of all of them and stick with that one."

When you stick with the one you like the most, you are no longer in a one way relationship as you are creating or expanding your affinity for each other. Even if she doesn't show it openly or directly, she will show you signs that she is reciprocating your affection.

JohnJones
01-11-2023, 06:19 PM
Jesus, i think you're supposed to swallow viagra, not smoke it.

And that is why your advice isn't for everyone. I don't need Viagra for my age.

Vincent888
01-11-2023, 06:22 PM
JJ Have you had any signs of progression?

chickbreaker
02-11-2023, 11:12 AM
You, sir, are my sprit animal! Much appreciate your words of wisdom, loved - LOVED - reading this, especially the naggy chick and librarian bit. GOLD!

Vincent888
02-11-2023, 04:18 PM
And that is why your advice isn't for everyone. I don't need Viagra for my age.

Some old sidhu in Karachi with seventeen kids swears by it. Though because he’s speaking in a foreign tongue, I couldn’t validate his claim of 700mg daily.

ColesBag
02-11-2023, 08:57 PM
Women are like cats. Make them sniff around you. Change the game.

Vincent888
02-11-2023, 09:15 PM
Women are like cats. Make them sniff around you. Change the game.

They do that when rimming! Lucky 🍀 I’m double washed by the time it’s “ready set go”.

jedibear
02-11-2023, 09:17 PM
I've had a Viet WL rim me before I even had a chance to hop in the shower...

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Vincent888
02-11-2023, 09:19 PM
I've had a Viet WL rim me before I even had a chance to hop in the shower...

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Maybe you look like a nice guy?

I was going to say something crude but I’ll leave it at that.

jedibear
02-11-2023, 09:23 PM
Maybe you look like a nice guy?

I was going to say something crude but I’ll leave it at that.Oh now im curious...

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JohnJones
03-11-2023, 07:16 AM
JJ Have you had any signs of progression?

Yes, in the form of obstacles getting stronger and stronger. Obstacles are signs that your wishes are coming true, but normally people would quit halfway if they don't have an unwavering faith.

For advanced meditators, normally I would meditate on the worst case scenario - either I visualise dying before my wish is fulfilled or my wish taken away from me in this life time. This helps to invalidate the ego and clinging to results, however it is dangerous for beginners as they might get too absorbed into the negative feeling and commit suicide.


Some old sidhu in Karachi with seventeen kids swears by it. Though because he’s speaking in a foreign tongue, I couldn’t validate his claim of 700mg daily.

They would've had something more potent than Viagra. In fact, if I had seventeen wives I would've been able to impregnate every single one of them in the same year and have a kid with each of them.

Vincent888
03-11-2023, 07:22 AM
I could have that many lovers quite easily.

Not into wives or commitment.

I’m sure marriage is a recent construct.

Not needed by everyone.

Just dating and casual sex.

YMMV

JohnJones
03-11-2023, 07:45 AM
I could have that many lovers quite easily.

Not into wives or commitment.

I’m sure marriage is a recent construct.

Not needed by everyone.

Just dating and casual sex.

YMMV

Marriage back in the days were either from family pressure, arranged by noble families or convenience. My great-great grandparents were married due to an arrangement by a certain powerful person, however stories from my deceased great-granduncle seems to point that his mother wasn't complaining about it, and was grateful for the marriage anyways. My great-grandmother however married for love. She was the only sibling that gave birth to so many kids (7 in total), her other sibling only had 2 kids and it was done mainly to continue the family line.

I think these days there's more marriages for love happening compared to a century ago. If I ever remarry again it'll definitely be for that. The waiting game can be cruel to some, but maybe because selfishness causes ordinary people to think that, and that's why marriages based on selfish needs tend to break. My last marriage ended because my ex squandered money from me - that was my last straw after 2 years. She was fat and not so attractive, but that wasn't a deal-breaker at all for me. We married only because I thought making her happy would change her, but it made her worse.

And if I do remarry, I do have someone in mind that I would definitely propose to, and die trying.

Titan1
17-11-2023, 11:57 AM
Update with my relationship with ML:

Day 5: I saw her again. As soon as I went into her apartment, she starting kissing me and taking my clothes off. I wanted to talk, but whatever - we fucked like we haven't seen each other in ages. We decided to go have dinner, had a nice chat about life then went for a walk along the river while holding hands. We talked more and both agreed that this will be the last time we'll see each other. She kept saying this wont need to end because it never started, she had a "strong mind" so she's able to control her emotions, but asked me if I could. Because it was my first time having a relationship with an ML, I told her I don't know. We returned to the apartment and fucked again. I leave after and we say our good byes. She texts me as I drive home "are you ready to leave me?" lol this girl is crazy. She calls me while driving and tells me we'll be friends from now on, no sex.

Day 10: She calls me while out partying with a friend and asks me to come out. I tell her I was busy with family commitments, she got sad in a cutezy way. I kept saying Im sorry. We talked more and she asks me if I was sure i wasnt busy. I explained to her how busy I am and she got mad saying "I wont call you again". Hung up on me.

Day 11: Curious today, I checked her FB. She video'd herself partying, probably drunk, singing karaoke with her friends. Looked hot, but it felt like the post was for me.

It's been 2 weeks since the last phone call. I follow her on FB but i've unfollowed her. Seems like it's over. I'm happy. I got to meet a hottie, fucked her so many times within a week, felt like a 21yo again, friends with her on FB (nice to wank over her photos in the future if i wanted), my confidence around beautiful woman grew, learnt a lot from this thread (thanks guys), probably won't visit MLs in a while, but J Coco looks pretty good lol, this encounter was memorable, back to reality and loving myself.

Vincent888
17-11-2023, 04:12 PM
By the sound of it she still felt a connection.

Titan1
17-11-2023, 05:34 PM
The first meet up was good. I honestly talked to her as if we're friends and she made all the moves during the paid session. Subsequent meetups got even better - treated how a naught girl should be treated and she loved it. It felt like we met after being overseas for a long time. It's great to have an emotional connect when fucking, the experience is on another level. I honestly dont think this will ever happen again. I'm maintaining my distance and I'm glad the air has cleared. Might be time to try J Coco so i can get my mind off lol

JohnJones
17-11-2023, 10:03 PM
A thought that you may not be able to unread:

When the person says they'll never see you again, they're gambling on the odds that you might be okay with actually leaving them for good.

When the person makes you wait, they're the ones making themselves wait so long it hurts them back.

What you give out, you will always get back.

Instead of hurting others, treat them as precious gems. Once you truly believe they are precious, the favours will be returned in a limitless amount.

When someone tests me, it is not me that gets hurt. But I do try to make them avoid from hurting myself or anyone further as it can be harmful for them when the karma manifests. That is the whole point for my advices and replies to many of the forum threads. I can play the game, it doesn't hurt me at all but I want to stop people from feeling hurt.

If there is anything else I can do to help, let me know. Just be careful for what you're asking for, even if the intention is indirect the words said can manifest in a direct manner.

JohnJones
17-11-2023, 10:31 PM
Ignorance will not make things go away. Your thoughts have a way to ruminate, reverberate and multiply the pain that it creates an experience similar to psychosis.

By solving your real life problems you can make it all go away eventually. And it helps to heal past traumas. We don't need to live in a cycle of pain, only liberation.

Vincent888
28-11-2023, 03:33 AM
JJ who ruminates?

A cow or a human?