Messaging a WL or ML

[Vincent888]

How many of you guys message them?

How many girls do you message daily?

What is the ratio of your txts to theirs?

What messaging app do you use?

What are their response times?

Is there a language barrier?

Do you swap pics?

[JohnJones]

Wish I had one particular person share their contact details before they disappeared.

Years ago before I met my current crush, one young WL asked me for my WeChat on the first meet. We dated twice outside of her work, and met mostly at her work. Unfortunately we broke up and she left for home. She was young (10 years younger than me) and greedy.

[Vincent888]

Greed is ok as long as you are getting what you want.

[JohnJones]

Unfortunately she was squandering money from me as well. She made me book her for the hour, dressed in her lingerie but made me sit on the edge of the bed the whole hour while she played her drama. A bit of a crazy situation, so yes, I left because she didn't reciprocate anything. Would've worked out if she had reciprocated with something, which is why many of my past relationships or early dates didn't work out.

You need to give something in order to get something back. Even a Mahasiddha can't help someone who doesn't reciprocate.

[JohnJones]

Greed is ok as long as you are getting what you want.

The definition of greed for me is when people take all they can from you and give you nothing. Greed is the cause of suffering for many people.

If a wife takes control of all the finances including the husband's salary but gives him a warm home to come back to, that is reciprocating. A warm home with food, deep conversations and intimacy.

[jedibear]

I only message to make a booking [emoji12]

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[Vincent888]

You don’t chat them up?

[Vincent888]

The definition of greed for me is when people take all they can from you and give you nothing. Greed is the cause of suffering for many people.

If a wife takes control of all the finances including the husband's salary but gives him a warm home to come back to, that is reciprocating. A warm home with food, deep conversations and intimacy.

Why would a wife take control of all the finances?

That is total bullshit in my books. The man controls. If he makes it he controls it.

[jedibear]

You don’t chat them up?Nah, I keep it purely business. Pay, fuck, leave...no strings attaches...

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[jedibear]

Why would a wife take control of all the finances?

That is total bullshit in my books. The man controls. If he makes it he controls it.She does that so the guy can't go out and fuck around

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[ReginaldBubbles]

Why would a wife take control of all the finances?

That is total bullshit in my books. The man controls. If he makes it he controls it.

Why would a guy give financial control to his wife? Have you read what you post?

I don't think anyone in a de facto relationship should "control the finances". If a wife isn't working but is staying home looking after the kids, shopping, cleaning and cooking then isn't she helping the husband make that money?

Also do you ever read what you just wrote? :shout:

[jedibear]

I don't think anyone in a de facto relationship should "control the finances". If a wife isn't working but is staying home looking after the kids, shopping, cleaning and cooking then isn't she helping the husband make that money?

Also do you ever read what you just wrote? :shout:The cleanest is to go Dutch. But i have never been married and haven't dated for the better half of a decade so I wouldn't know what the norms are these days...

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[Vincent888]

She does that so the guy can't go out and fuck around

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Exactly, that guy needs reprogramming.

[JohnJones]

Why would a wife take control of all the finances?

That is total bullshit in my books. The man controls. If he makes it he controls it.

Why are there CEOs, then a CFO in a company?

A good wife is a good accountant. She knows how much goes into building a family. Only bad wives squander money, like a bad accountant stealing money from a business.

In the old steppe cultures, the woman is equal to her husband because she warms the home. The husband's job is to go out into the grasslands for days to hunt for meat. If he goes home with nothing the wife has all the rights to make him sleep outside in the brutal steppe winters.

If you really believe that the man controls all the finances that he makes then it's probably the best thing to stay single. Marriage is a contract of intimacy and reliance upon each other. You took a Christian quote on another thread, I'd expect someone like you to be like Christ - always dependable to those who rely on Him.

[Vincent888]

I don't think anyone in a de facto relationship should "control the finances". If a wife isn't working but is staying home looking after the kids, shopping, cleaning and cooking then isn't she helping the husband make that money?

Also do you ever read what you just wrote? :shout:

I reread everything and delete half. No doubt the guy pays his wife too. She’s getting her money. Isn’t that enough?

[jedibear]

Why are there CEOs, then a CFO in a company?

A good wife is a good accountant. She knows how much goes into building a family. Only bad wives squander money, like a bad accountant stealing money from a business.

In the old steppe cultures, the woman is equal to her husband because she warms the home. The husband's job is to go out into the grasslands for days to hunt for meat. If he goes home with nothing the wife has all the rights to make him sleep outside in the brutal steppe winters.

If you really believe that the man controls all the finances that he makes then it's probably the best thing to stay single. Marriage is a contract of intimacy and reliance upon each other. You took a Christian quote on another thread, I'd expect someone like you to be like Christ - always dependable to those who rely on Him.So the girl didn't even fuck? If thats the case and she took your cash...then yes, that is pure greed...

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[JohnJones]

So the girl didn't even fuck? If thats the case and she took your cash...then yes, that is pure greed...

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To answer your question - yes, she didn't even fuck. She just pretended to be angry and dramatic the whole hour. Threatened to call her bouncer if I came too close.

To point out something amiss - you've quoted the wrong post lol but forgivable

[jedibear]

Ok, yes, that is pure greed then

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[Vincent888]

Why are there CEOs, then a CFO in a company?

A good wife is a good accountant. She knows how much goes into building a family. Only bad wives squander money, like a bad accountant stealing money from a business.

In the old steppe cultures, the woman is equal to her husband because she warms the home. The husband's job is to go out into the grasslands for days to hunt for meat. If he goes home with nothing the wife has all the rights to make him sleep outside in the brutal steppe winters.

If you really believe that the man controls all the finances that he makes then it's probably the best thing to stay single. Marriage is a contract of intimacy and reliance upon each other. You took a Christian quote on another thread, I'd expect someone like you to be like Christ - always dependable to those who rely on Him.


I’m full of quotes.

The CFO is there to keep others happy. That is all. A pretence. Who cares what marriage is about? Only those that sign up for it.

Single guys only need a mistress and a housekeeper… like Arnold’s.

[Vincent888]

So the girl didn't even fuck? If thats the case and she took your cash...then yes, that is pure greed...

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“A fool and their money are soon parted”, so sayeth a punter.

[JohnJones]

I’m full of quotes.

The CFO is there to keep others happy. That is all. A pretence. Who cares what marriage is about? Only those that sign up for it.

Single guys only need a mistress and a housekeeper… like Arnold’s.

That's okay, I don't place too much expectations on others.
Be careful, that mistress might think she's got her foot in the door once you go to town with her.
But if you don't have such karma then you wouldn't need to experience it.
Then again, that Christian quote is an example of how we should go through life's hardship to exhaust the karma until finally we are able to enjoy blessings.
So yes, I do think you have a good heart despite your views. Normally people would've refrained from using parts of a religious quote.

[jedibear]

Proverbs 6:26-35 "A prostitute might cost a loaf of bread, but the wife of another man could cost you your life."

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[ReginaldBubbles]

I reread everything and delete half. No doubt the guy pays his wife too. She’s getting her money. Isn’t that enough?

Wow that is a lot of editing! Is it because you decide it's just too unbelievable?
Lol "pays his wife". What's wrong with joint decisions?
Did you catch the Andrew Tate story on 4 Corners last night?

[JSteel96]

How many of you guys message them?

How many girls do you message daily?

What is the ratio of your txts to theirs?

What messaging app do you use?

What are their response times?

Is there a language barrier?

Do you swap pics?

I do text message with my regular, she'll call me if she knows I am alone. We also email. Response time is good. I have her pics and naked ones to not sharing sorry.

[JohnJones]

Proverbs 6:26-35 "A prostitute might cost a loaf of bread, but the wife of another man could cost you your life."

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Haha, it's turning into a Bible study forum now

[JSteel96]

The definition of greed for me is when people take all they can from you and give you nothing. Greed is the cause of suffering for many people.

If a wife takes control of all the finances including the husband's salary but gives him a warm home to come back to, that is reciprocating. A warm home with food, deep conversations and intimacy.

No married man should ever let his wife take 100% of his finances that is just a stupid thing to do. Both should have separate accounts and one joint plus a mortgage. Only an idiot would not have his own separate account. If the wife ever left him and he did not have his own savings he's totally fucked up.

[jedibear]

No married man should ever let his wife take 100% of his finances that is just a stupid thing to do. Both should have separate accounts and one joint plus a mortgage. Only an idiot would not have his own separate account. If the wife ever left him and he did not have his own savings he's totally fucked up.100%! Could not have said it better myself...

Giving total control one way or the other is an easy road to financial abuse...

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[JSteel96]

Why would a wife take control of all the finances?

That is total bullshit in my books. The man controls. If he makes it he controls it.

Yes I agree total bullshit if a man lets his wife control all his money. He would have to be fucking mad he would have no fall back if she ever kicked him out hes up the shitter.

[jedibear]

Yes I agree total bullshit if a man lets his wife control all his money. He would have to be fucking mad he would have no fall back if she ever kicked him out hes up the shitter.Control the money, and she's grabbed ya by the balls...

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[JSteel96]

Control the money, and she's grabbed ya by the balls...

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Not only grabbed you by the balls, she'll cut them off if she finds out your cheating. And she will not only control the money but how many times you get sex per week. Man has to be totally nuts to let his wife to control his money.

[ReginaldBubbles]

Yes I agree total bullshit if a man lets his wife control all his money. He would have to be fucking mad he would have no fall back if she ever kicked him out hes up the shitter.

Yep for sure. Works both ways though.

[Migala]

If you don't trust your wife, you don't love her.

[frisson]

The definition of greed for me is when people take all they can from you and give you nothing. Greed is the cause of suffering for many people.

This is extremely common in the world unfortunately

[frisson]

Haha, it's turning into a Bible study forum now

Proverbs 6:26-35 "A prostitute might cost a loaf of bread, but the wife of another man could cost you your life."

Nice to know. So the cost is a loaf of bread, not eternal damnation in hell

[Vincent888]

Proverbs 6:26-35 "A prostitute might cost a loaf of bread, but the wife of another man could cost you your life."

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Here we go… luckily we’re not living in Proverbial times.

[Vincent888]

Wow that is a lot of editing! Is it because you decide it's just too unbelievable?
Lol "pays his wife". What's wrong with joint decisions?
Did you catch the Andrew Tate story on 4 Corners last night?

No, why watch anything ABC. That’s obvious isn’t it?

[JohnJones]

Yes I agree total bullshit if a man lets his wife control all his money. He would have to be fucking mad he would have no fall back if she ever kicked him out hes up the shitter.

Clearly you have lots of bad karma from the past.

Your fears are a telltale sign that you have lots of bad karma that will manifest as soon as you get into such life.

When I conquered my traumas concerning my ex-wife, I realise she could no longer harm me. She tried taking me for a ride - asking me to withdraw ALL my money on a trip to her hometown in China. Somehow due to a lack of karma something came up in my mind and told me to cancel that trip. For 2 years being married to her I cancelled the trip to China both years with strong reasoning. She couldn't tell me why I should withdraw all my money for a trip to a not-so-expensive town in China.

Karma is beyond reasoning but if you do believe in it, and learn how it all works, you will know that once you've exhausted all karmas it won't happen to you anymore. Anyways, I have no fear of being taken for a ride because if I do in the future, I know it's my karma and I can't escape it yet if I do die on the streets I can finally meditate on clear light of death and wait for a better next life.

[JohnJones]

If you don't trust your wife, you don't love her.

With my ex-wife I distrust her a lot. But at the end of the relationship I decided to take the leap of faith and do what she wanted me to do:

- Look for a higher paying job and failed miserably
- Get her pregnant and failed because of her health condition
- Took her on our first holiday overseas
- Try and try to accept her lack of attractiveness and stop thinking about having an affair (I wasn't even well off in the first place)

Eventually karma caught on to her and I saw the bank statement where she's been sending money to her own personal bank account back in China. When confronted she had no remorse, didn't even make any excuses so clearly she was caught red handed squandering money. That was enough to start a divorce.

I call it a divine blessing. I would've been stuck with her up until today hating my life - being with a woman who puts in zero effort on her looks and health, and only cares about excessive eating and money.

Once we officially divorced I finally found a good high paying job. Another sign that her extensive bad karma was disrupting my ability to help her out no matter how hard I tried.

With my current crush, my assessment is that she has lots of merits although in terms of relationship she may be locked to a certain "soulmate". I have a feeling she's sussing me out to see if I'm really meant for her. Anyways, could be my imagination but I do wish she can read my thoughts now and see how much I yearn for her.

[11Bravo]

The man controls. If he makes it he controls it.
Great idea UNTIL you find yourself in the hospital, incapacitated, or in jail. Then your family is SOL without access to the finances.

[JohnJones]

Great idea UNTIL you find yourself in the hospital, incapacitated, or in jail. Then your family is SOL without access to the finances.

Or worse, dead in a car crash or bungee jumping. All that millions going straight to the government who won't even give a single cent to the homeless who can't receive Centrelink due to mental health issues.

[11Bravo]

Or worse, dead in a car crash or bungee jumping. All that millions going straight to the government who won't even give a single cent to the homeless who can't receive Centrelink due to mental health issues.

Have to politely disagree. Those that demand total control IMO, think they are the center of the universe. So whatever happens to "others" when THEY die is unimportant. But if they're in hospital or jail and need access to their money to pay THEIR bills, that's where the total control fails for THEMSELVES...

[11Bravo]

How many of you guys message them?
Unknown as I can only speak for myself.


How many girls do you message daily?
None, but when BOTG, weekly. When not BOTG, quarterly.


What is the ratio of your txts to theirs?
1 to 1.


What messaging app do you use?
WeChat, Line, WhatsApp.


What are their response times?
If she's in the app, minutes. If not, usually within an hour or two. Sometimes, can be next day due to time difference. Good/bad about Line it shows when the message was read


Is there a language barrier?No. Either built in translate or copy and translate.


Do you swap pics?With some, yes.

[Vincent888]

Great idea UNTIL you find yourself in the hospital, incapacitated, or in jail. Then your family is SOL without access to the finances.

I have all the necessary legal arrangements in place. Did that years ago.

[Vincent888]

Unknown as I can only speak for myself.


None, but when BOTG, weekly. When not BOTG, quarterly.


1 to 1.


WeChat, Line, WhatsApp.


If she's in the app, minutes. If not, usually within an hour or two. Sometimes, can be next day due to time difference. Good/bad about Line it shows when the message was read

No. Either built in translate or copy and translate.

With some, yes.

A good response. Thx.

I must expect too much from WL’s.

[Migala]

With my ex-wife I distrust her a lot. But at the end of the relationship I decided to take the leap of faith and do what she wanted me to do:

- Look for a higher paying job and failed miserably
- Get her pregnant and failed because of her health condition
- Took her on our first holiday overseas
- Try and try to accept her lack of attractiveness and stop thinking about having an affair (I wasn't even well off in the first place)

Eventually karma caught on to her and I saw the bank statement where she's been sending money to her own personal bank account back in China. When confronted she had no remorse, didn't even make any excuses so clearly she was caught red handed squandering money. That was enough to start a divorce.

I call it a divine blessing. I would've been stuck with her up until today hating my life - being with a woman who puts in zero effort on her looks and health, and only cares about excessive eating and money.

Once we officially divorced I finally found a good high paying job. Another sign that her extensive bad karma was disrupting my ability to help her out no matter how hard I tried.

With my current crush, my assessment is that she has lots of merits although in terms of relationship she may be locked to a certain "soulmate". I have a feeling she's sussing me out to see if I'm really meant for her. Anyways, could be my imagination but I do wish she can read my thoughts now and see how much I yearn for her.

I don't want to be disrespectful. I think you had hard times with her which is an indication to let her go.

first of all, I'm biased. But If I were you, I would have let her destroy me. And once she left me, from the ashes, I would be reborn like the Phoenix. After you hit the bottom, the good things start. Starting from the scratch sometimes is a blessing because it gives me purpose for everything. But for others, that may be different. That's me.

Now that everyone is referencing the Bible, I will reference the book of Corinthians 13

If I could speak all the languages of earth and of angels, but didn't love others, I would only be a noisy gong or a clanging cymbal. If I had the gift o prophecy, and if I understood all God's secret plans and possessed all knowledge, and if I had such faith that I could move mountains, but didn't love others, I would be nothing. If I gave everything I have to the poor and even sacrificed my body, I could boast about it; but if I didn't love others, I would have gained nothing.

Love is patient and kind. Love is not jealous or boastful or proud or rude. It does not demand its own way. It is not irritable, and it keeps no record of being wronged. It does not rejoice about injustice but rejoices whenever the thruth wins out. Love never gives up, never loses faith, is always hopeful, and endures through every circumstance.

Prophecy and speaking in unknown languages and special knowledge will become useless. But love will last forever! Now our knowledge is partial and incomplete, and even the gift of prophecy reveals only part of the whole picture! But when the time of perfection comes, these partial will become useless.

When I was a child, I spoke and thought and reasoned as a child. But when I grew up, I put away childish things. Now we see things imperfectly, like puzzling reflections in a mirror, but then we will see everything with perfect clarity. All that I know now is partial and incomplete, but then I will know everything completely, just as God now knows me completely.

Three things will last forever - faith, hope, and love - and the greatest of these is love.

[jedibear]

With my ex-wife I distrust her a lot. But at the end of the relationship I decided to take the leap of faith and do what she wanted me to do:

- Look for a higher paying job and failed miserably
- Get her pregnant and failed because of her health condition
- Took her on our first holiday overseas
- Try and try to accept her lack of attractiveness and stop thinking about having an affair (I wasn't even well off in the first place)

Eventually karma caught on to her and I saw the bank statement where she's been sending money to her own personal bank account back in China. When confronted she had no remorse, didn't even make any excuses so clearly she was caught red handed squandering money. That was enough to start a divorce.

I call it a divine blessing. I would've been stuck with her up until today hating my life - being with a woman who puts in zero effort on her looks and health, and only cares about excessive eating and money.

Once we officially divorced I finally found a good high paying job. Another sign that her extensive bad karma was disrupting my ability to help her out no matter how hard I tried.

With my current crush, my assessment is that she has lots of merits although in terms of relationship she may be locked to a certain "soulmate". I have a feeling she's sussing me out to see if I'm really meant for her. Anyways, could be my imagination but I do wish she can read my thoughts now and see how much I yearn for her.

That must have been infuriating to have your hard earned money siphoned like that. Hard also to stay attracted if she let herself go like that too...

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[faruk]

To answer your question - yes, she didn't even fuck. She just pretended to be angry and dramatic the whole hour. Threatened to call her bouncer if I came too close.

To point out something amiss - you've quoted the wrong post lol but forgivable

Why did you keep seeing her?

[Hidden Python]

My advice keep your private life private, and stop being a pussy whipped Simp who runs with his tail between his legs every time pussy calls for her ATM.
Even if you don’t turn up to punt her, she will have 10 other guys lined up to fill her pussy and her pockets

[Vincent888]

My advice keep your private life private, and stop being a pussy whipped Simp who runs with his tail between his legs every time pussy calls for her ATM.
Even if you don’t turn up to punt her, she will have 10 other guys lined up to fill her pussy and her pockets

That’s the power of the “money maker”…

If only guys had one.

[11Bravo]

A good response. Thx.

I must expect too much from WL’s.
Just good BUSINESS sense... keeping an active client list. Makes her more valuable if she changes shops as she can bring in new customers.

A ML/WG's phone is gold due to the contacts. I personally know that girls have sold their phone to another just for the contacts. I had called girl A and girl B (who I also knew and instantly recognized her distinctive voice) answered. I thought I had misdialed until girl B explained that she had bought girl A's phone when she retired and went home.

[Ghost2hauntU]

I keep the details of a few WLs on WeChat but rarely msg.

After a good fuck where we’ve talked photos some ask that I send them so I did.
Others msg me the next night just to say hello and what I’m up to and may comment on the pics I took of them.

A regular may msg me for NYE and Chinese NY by sending me greetings or some card.

But that’s about it. I probably prefer it that way.

[Vincent888]

Just good BUSINESS sense... keeping an active client list. Makes her more valuable if she changes shops as she can bring in new customers.

A ML/WG's phone is gold due to the contacts. I personally know that girls have sold their phone to another just for the contacts. I had called girl A and girl B (who I also knew and instantly recognized her distinctive voice) answered. I thought I had misdialed until girl B explained that she had bought girl A's phone when she retired and went home.

Been here a month and learning every day, thx.

[JohnJones]

That must have been infuriating to have your hard earned money siphoned like that. Hard also to stay attracted if she let herself go like that too...

I didn't ask for a single cent back. By law I could've dragged her to court because at that time I was earning much lower than her. She made me write a prenup last minute stating I won't drag her to court to claim half her estate which is the apartment we were living in. I signed it, but with the extra clause saying that she is also not entitled to my estate to make things fair.

Last I heard of her, she sold the apartment because she couldn't afford the new interest rates and she couldn't find a new husband who she could dupe. That's the price for letting yourself loose to your habituations, that greed will only destroy you in the end.

[JohnJones]

Why did you keep seeing her?

We've dated outside her work. Of course I would've wanted to fix things if it was my fault. I wouldn't easily walk away unless she's been like that from the beginning.

[Vincent888]

Basically you got handled. It’s easy to do. A lesson learnt.